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So a lot of people here compare SSD brands, the 850 EVO is supposed to be the best and unkown SSDs are supposed to be the worst, etc.
But what makes a SSD better than another SSD? What kind of problems can a bad SSD have that a good one doesn't have?
And are there still actual reliability issues with SSDs released in 2016?
I'm asking this because I'm looking to upgrade my laptops and my parents desktops with SSDs, most probably from Kingston V300. Are there known issues with Kingston V300 or is the whole SSD model 1 vs model 2 debate about almost nothing?
I'd like to add I already have a SSD in my laptop for over a year now, Samsung EVO 840 which was supposed to be a very bad one yet I haven't found a flaw yet.
>he fell for the SSD meme
yes I'm stupid like that
the 850 evo is total shit, it uses TLC nand, and anyone who suggests buying this should kill themselves
if you want something as cheap as possible, get the hyperx fury
something better is the ocz arc 100
then if you want the best sata ssd you get the 850 pro
if you want the best non-sata ssd, get pcie ones, not the retarded overheating m2 ones
>>53916576
would any of this actually matter if I just think about installing a SSD in the desktop of my parents to make it go fastur?
>>53916592
just get them the hyperx fury
tlc is shit
>>53916698
thanks for the advise. They actually are pretty cheap.
>>53916576
Thanks for this bro. I keep seeing people recommending the samsung evo without any mention of TLC, MLC, SLC etc. but what you're saying seems legit. I had never heard of TLC before but I just looked it up. So yeah once again all these fags saying evo is the best buy for your money are just talking out their ass. I'm also in the market for an ssd, i was going to get the samsung evo but now i'm probably gonna get one of the ones you mentioned. Now i know to look for MLC.
>>53916540
Kingston V300 is way slower than the others. And don't have S.M.A.R.T. or TRIM support.
>>53917056
so it's only 5 times faster than HDD?
How reliable are Toshiba SSD?
I can get the 120GB model for 38€, or I could get a Crucial BX200, 240GB for 63€.
Thoughts on crucial CT256M225? It's listed as MLC when I googled it. The reason I ask is some fag is selling them on craiglist near me.
>>53917122
toshiba bought ocz, so they share tech
i have three toshiba-nand arc 100 240GB ssds and they are flawless so far
but if you're looking for cheap, get the hyperx fury
>>53917056
the v300 is indeed shit. stay away from it. a few bucks difference, at most, if any, from the hyperx fury
>>53917122
Where are they selling that Toshiba?
I want to update the HDD on my Dell M1530 because the hard drive is dying and It's making my pc unusable
>>53917156
crucials sold on craigslist-type sites are usually used or old models. beware
>>53917186
The Thosiba SSD is cheaper than the HyperX Fury for me.
>>53917187
http://www.pccomponentes.com/toshiba_ssd_q300_120gb_2_5_.html
Spanish store.
>>53916994
You sound like some mouth-breathing redneck who knows fuck all about tech besides vibrating dildos for his sister/wife. Kill yourself you dumb faggot
Get the 850 pro, we use them for most of the systems we deploy where I work. Mainly because they come with a 10 year warranty. But also because they have the best track record as far as SSDs go (for us anyways) and the price has gone down. In the end just do what you want.
SM951 is the way...fuckin R:2.5GB/s W:1.6GB/s
>>53917235
the q300 is tlc. it's shit. stay away from it. also stay away from the ocz trion, it's tlc as well. just google reviews of any model you find.
the hyperx fury is
- mlc, so it's more durable
- battle-proven sandforce controller
even if it's not the fastest ssd, it's still fast enough and reliable for the price, more reliable than any retarded tlc
850 is an overpriced piece of shit
>>53917238
Cool post nigger
>>53917304
850 evo, i mean
the 850 pro is fine if you're willing to pay that much for a sata ssd
>>53917285
not without radiators, it's not. those m2 things are
Brah the evo 850 beats pretty much any ssd in terms of performance. Check the benchmarks yourself. Not only that but an evo 850 is the most durable and reliable consumer-grade ssd i.e. highest endurance.
>>53917327
>are
housefires
>>53917285
you realise that someone who wants to upgrade a dying pc most likely doesn't have an m2 port
>>53917350
OP here, this is not a consumer thread. Well a little bit, but I"m mainly interested in what exactly makes SSD 1 better than SSD 2 and if it really matters much.
>>53917304
Noted.
The HyperX Fury is just 44€ (120GB).
What about the Crucial BX200 (240GB)?
>>53917346
>100 rupees added to your account pajeet
>>53917379
BX200 is shit-tier
>>53916576
>the 850 evo is total shit, it uses TLC nand, and anyone who suggests buying this should kill themselves
It's the best implementation of TLC NANDs out there and the drop off in sustained writes isn't that bad. It goes from 540MB/s to about 350-370MB/s. Other TLC NANDs SSDs drop off to about 80-190MB/s (Trion 100 is the worst of the bunch). But you only have to worry about that if you're constantly writing files onto it that are larger than 12GB in total, which rarely happens if you use it as a boot drive.
MLC NANDs SSDs are better, but they're usually more expensive and have sketchy controllers, which can make them worse in small file read/writes than the 850 EVO.
>>53917346
you are literally THE cancer shill
>The SSD 850 EVO supports Total Bytes Written (TBW) of 75TBW for the 120/250GB drives
>The HyperX Fury 240GB has a maximum of 641TB Write Endurance
please stop shilling for samsung, guys. it's not funny
>>53917156
Why would you buy a used product that deteriorates with time?
Sandisk ultra ii best budget ssd
>>53916576
That Google SSD endurance study found there's no difference between SLC and MLC
>Sandisk ultra ii
TLC cancer meant to profit off retards
>>53917402
>B-because poorfag m-m-masterrace
I'm considering between Crucial MX200 and BX100.
>>53917419
>sponsored by TLC SSD manufacturers™
>>53917419
TLC wasn't part of that test, idiot
the shit that these retards shill (the 850 evo) has a retarded 75TB endurance, when a cheaper MLC drive can handle 641TB
there's not a lot of difference between slc and mlc because they live long enough and just die because other causes than nand degradation
TLC is just meant for companies to save a lot and samsung's really profiting from this 850 evo bullshit hype
>>53917327
>not without radiators
Nigger what?
You mean heat sinks, you dumb nigger. And heat build-up is only an issue with particular M.2 SSDs (all Samsungs, SM951 and 950 PRO) because they have ridiculously fast write speeds and nothing to cool them off with apart from ambient air.
Unless you write constantly to the M.2, you're not going to experience thermal throttling. That is an issue that persists with the SM951, but the 950 PRO has updated firmware that prevents thermal throttling by reducing the sustained write speed to the thermal limits so that you get a constant, overall faster write speed over the technically faster SM951.
So besides the circle jerk, I want to put a ssd on my old pc and I refuse to spend more than 50 yuros.
Kingston is safe enough?
>>53917419
>Trusting an advertising company to give reliable data
>>53917473
heatsinks ARE radiators, you fucking niggerfaggot
and even the sm951 heats up too much and slows down. fucking read the non-shill reviews, stop posting, or go shove a cactus up your ass
>>53917479
do not fucking get the v300, get the hyperx fury, what the fuck is so hard to comprehend?
>>53917479
Crucial BX100 128GB maybe?
Samsung uses 3D NAND. It allows them to use a larger fab process. Larger cells are more reliable.
They're just fucking good. Don't listen to any cretin say otherwise, the Samsung 850 series is universally known to be the best drive for the average person. If you're an extreme enthusiast get some of Intel's high end shit.
Samsung are good with NAND.
>>53917509
http://www.pccomponentes.com/kingston_hyperx_fury_ssd_120gb_sata3.html
this one?
Okay what are the chances on it not working on my old laptop (C2D, chipset PM965)?
>>53917492
>even the sm951 heats up too much and slows down
Nigger, I just said that in the last part of my post, you dumb nigger
I have mine (a 512GB NVMe version) on a PCIe adapter that has mounting points for a heatsink. And that's still cheaper AND faster than a Intel 750 400GB PCIe drive. The 950 PRO doesn't really need the heatsink because of its better firmware, so I have on the native M.2 port of my motherboard.
TLC ssd drives are a CIA backed program meant to flood the ghettos with shitty tech. Similar to the crack and AIDS epidemics. Do some fucking research. If you own a TLC ssd you are no better than a crackhead nigger with AIDS.
TLC is an issue only if you write much. But that said I'd still buy the HyperX Fury instead of the 850 EVO now.
As for V300, Kingston says it has TRIM support on their site. So that's wrong what someone here said.
>>53917512
>Crucial BX100
siliconmotion controller
i'd rather kill myself
>>53917517
then why does the 850 evo have a 75TB write durability and the cheaper mlc fury has 640TB?
>>53917517
Tell that to this faggot that's 100% convinced that TLC is bad and MLC is better regardless.
>42 posts
>15 posters
It's literally the same 1 guy shitting up the thread about how murrican SSDs are better because they underestimate their endurance ratings less
>>53917549
it works
>>53917393
This is true. Cache exhaustion (!) isn't nearly as bad as any of the other brands and the EVO Pro 850 uses an MLC/2-bit TLC which makes for superior endurance and reliability, as well as coming with a price premium. Still a very fair and affordable price for one of the fastest and the most reliable ssd drive out there.
Protip:
sandforce is shit
BX200 is shit
If you want cheap forget about mlc
tlc IS MORE THAN ENOUGH for a decade or two of reliability unless you want to keep using the drive until the rest of your life.
Validate my cheapo Intel 535 120gb senpaitachi. Should I have bought the shilled 850 instead?
>>53917579
If it doesn't I hold you accountable
>>53917575
who cares where it's from?
850 pro is fine, but expensive
otherwise, get the cheapest sandforce-based mlc drive that isn't the v300 with slow-ass NAND
ocz/toshiba mlc drives are also fine
>>53917600
[email protected]
let me know how it goes
>>53916592
No. Even an adata ssd that claims over 500read/500write is just fine. Almost any SSD will noticeably improve boot times and loading screens.
I have 2 850 Pros in Raid 0. They are 1.1GB Read / 745 Write.
>>53917517
100 rupees added to your account, Sudeep :)
>>53917621
>2 850 Pros in Raid 0
nigga you just went full retard
>>53917471
Are you dumb as fuck or what? The 850 evo is guaranteed to live for 75tb, backed up by the manufacturer. That's approximately 20GB write operations/day for 10 years.
Besides, that's only the endurance supported for warranty. It can go far beyond that. The 840 evo lasts until about 700-800TBW. The 840 Pro lasted to 2.1 PETAbytes.
>>53917580
Cheap MLC drives also have this ticking time bomb in them that will outright kill the drive well before the lifespan of the MLC NANDs: the controllers.
Early SSD controllers were faulty as shit and would die without warning, making the entire SSD unrecoverable even if you could somehow solder a replacement controller onto the PCB. All those faggots saying that bargain MLC drives can last 600+TB of writes are forgetting that the controllers for those drives die within 2-3 years of daily use, rendering the long lifespan of the MLC drives moot. I think SanDisk are the only manufacturer that has an MLC controller worth a damn in their Extreme Pro SSDs. 10 year warranty thanks to their superb controller.
>>53917620
I would be sure to contact you
>>53917638
75 is nearly 10 fucking times less than a cheaper MLC drive. please fuck off and die. the 850 evo is an advertising success and you fell for it.
>>53917606
>who cares where it's from?
People who don't want to be sponsoring mass surveillance
>>53917626
How fucking retarded are you exactly? They're an industry standard and you know it.
>>53917634
Don't hate what you can't afford.
>>53917696
Don't bite the hand that feeds you Sudeep.
>>53917711
You don't increase the IOPS of the SSDs in RAID0. Should have bought an M.2 or PCIe SSD, senpai.
I load programs before I even click on them.
>>53917668
lol die
You paid a price premium for failed engineers. How does it feel? They might have changed some stuff here and there on the Hyperx fury compared to the 3k but the fact remains that a samsung 3D-TLC beats a hyperX
Realistically speaking 75TBW is an extremely conservative number given by the manufacturer. They last for much longer
>>53917711
i can afford m2 ssds, what you got is noob retardation
>>53917668
So which SSD exactly should people buy? Mushkin Enhanced Chronos?
>>53917782
the usual people are on default settings and have their OS thrash the shit out of the drive with logs, backups, updates, browser caches, etc
please off yourself and stop sucking samsung dick so much. go install samsung magician and hope it won't brick your drive on the next firmware upgrade :^)
>>53917800
refer to my previous posts
>>53916576
>>53917606
>>53917800
If you live in the States, Mushkin is pretty GOAT with their warranty and support. That's why I only use Mushkins now for my client builds.
>>53917737
I have a mini itx 4690k with noctua sink and fans. No m.2 Support and no extra PCIe slot. 2 850 pros in Raid 0 is the best option. Windows knows what to do... you still get around 500GB disk space. My read write is faster than 2 nub m2s. Who has hw2test benchmark screen shots. None of you M2 nubs have 1.1GB read.
>>53917801
What kind of response is that? You can clearly see that an 840 evo/3d V-NAND lasts longer than a hyperx 3k i.e. MLC. Can't fix retarded engineers even though the concept is straightforward. Paying a price premium for muh mlc when its engineering foundation is carried out by retards is pretty dumb anon. Samsung TLC just works and lasts longer than a hyperx. The ONLY redeemable aspect of the hyperx is the fact that it doesn't slow down when transferring a very large stream of data i.e. 20gb+ but even then, the evo 840 (not even talking about the 850) 'slows down' to about 330mb/s
>>53917784
No one has 2 m.2 slots fag. If you have to add an adapter you may as well use a pcie solution. Mini itx has no open bays you pleb.
>>53917782
Err... doesn't that graph show the Samsung getting mauled badly?
>>53917843
>None of you M2 nubs have 1.1GB read
>1.1GB read
>not even >1GB write
kek
>>53917882
It shows that the samsung 840 starts getting bad sectors earlier than most but by virtue of excellent engineering by samsung it can endure longer than mlc-based ssds like the intel 335 and hyperx 3k. The 840 Evo Pro is on an entirely different level and can sustain itself up to 2.1PB of writes.
>>53917887
You probably have raptors, faggot. Stfu. Care to share passmark results?
>>53917843
>None of you M2 nubs have 1.1GB read.
are you retarded or are you retarded?
choose wisely
>>53917924
Post your passmark bench then you geeky faggot cocksucker.
>>53917919
Ah yes, I'm dumb. I didn't get that they tested the drives until their death.
>>53917304
Kill yourself you shill piece of dumb shit
>>53917877
>hyperx 3k
hyperx fury
>840 evo
this is about the 850 evo. the 840 evo is just as retarded because
>https://www.google.ro/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi18N-K_PzLAhVGVywKHWELDqQQFggtMAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.extremetech.com%2Fcomputing%2F199673-second-patch-for-ongoing-840-evo-ssd-performance-issues-being-prepped-by-samsung&usg=AFQjCNHYYIDuncuqIyKcmQVheoLGGVZLjQ&sig2=2ZXsEbNEkW8XDOhXVs9XcA&bvm=bv.118817766,d.bGg
>https://www.google.ro/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi18N-K_PzLAhVGVywKHWELDqQQFgg1MAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techpowerup.com%2Fforums%2Fthreads%2Fsamsung-840-evo-issues-slow-boot-time.213112%2F&usg=AFQjCNFQlYKCxdnU3zf8vO6MHtrUFWlA4Q&sig2=TZhVA2w2wjgHLB0lICmCaQ&bvm=bv.118817766,d.bGg
>https://www.google.ro/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi18N-K_PzLAhVGVywKHWELDqQQFghQMAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechreport.com%2Freview%2F27727%2Fsome-840-evos-still-vulnerable-to-read-speed-slowdowns&usg=AFQjCNFPO6Kk761yRvEjV2pSFw_QigVO0w&sig2=oOPH9XGCbDqmJP5cPPZ2Ow&bvm=bv.118817766,d.bGg
it's really easy to comprehend that the cheaper hyperx fury is better when you're buying a cheap ssd
>a price for the premium
what the fuck is the premium here? a little extra speed for faster nand death? it's a difference you'll never feel, but when your ssd dies, it fucking matters
>>53918006
This guy obviously still owns a spinning drive.
>>53917955
i'm at work, unlike you, fuccboi
>>53918006
.ro
Fucking gypsy who did you steal your internet connection from?
>>53918031
I have zero bills, more and better of everything i.n life than you. Not to mention I am on my phone in the bath laughing because I own two of something you couldn't afford. Not to mention my phone, laptop and tablet are better than yours. Plus I bet you can't pull a bitch to save your life.
>>53918006
>.ro
Wtf??? Idk of i can trust your opinions now
>>53918006
The evo 840 is faster than a hyperx 3k, except when its cache is exhausted, and it also lasts longer. Paying more to get a hyperx 3k just because its mlc instead of an evo 840 is retarded.
The firmware upgrade had mixed results. The 850 has had no issues.
m8, let it go
http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/review-kingston-hyperx-fury-240gb-sounds-furious-only-name/conclusion-810
The 850 blows it out of the water when it comes to performance even though it shouldn't; retarded engineers. Besides that I'm sure it'll last longer, like its predecessor the 840 vs the hyperx 3k
>>53918083
Sounds like a spoiled underage cunt to me
Mommy and Daddy's money != yours
Just buy a cheap one, pretend it is the holy grail and never look at reviews.
>>53918156
It honestly doesn't matter. Any modern ssd will last long enough i.e. ~5 years easy. What might matter is performance, and that's where the evo line comes in. Even then it might not be noticeable since they're all pretty fast already.
>>53918130
>.sg
All these international shills in one thread. How much are you fags making to post this shit from your 3rd world shitholes?
>>53918131
I am a mechanical engineer and IT Administrator. I have contracted for the military as well as half a dozen fortune 500 companies. I make more than your combined family income, kiddo.
>>53918192
>violent, racist Trumpnigger
The only niggers worse than actual niggers
The Day of the Rope can't come soon enough for you cucks
>>53918131
I make more than your combined family income, kiddo.
>>53918195
>I have contracted for the military as well as half a dozen fortune 500 companies
Huh, you sound like me
>>53918192
Singapore is pretty first world and its capital is one of the strongest powerful cities in the world. 6th in fact. Get out of your Americentrist bubble yeah?
>>53918257
Maybe you are a great man as well.
>>53918257
>>53918195
Cut it out faggots.
does anyone know how is the zotac brand? i can get the 250 gb version for like $80
>>53918261
Lololol
>>53916540
>So a lot of people here compare SSD brands, the 850 EVO is supposed to be the best and unkown SSDs are supposed to be the worst, etc.
You mean the 850 PRO, not the 850 EVO.
>But what makes a SSD better than another SSD? What kind of problems can a bad SSD have that a good one doesn't have?
Lifetime, performance, performance after 1 year, unrecoverable read error rate
>And are there still actual reliability issues with SSDs released in 2016?
Not if you buy good ones
>>53918282
>Zotac
They don't make SSDs. They just rebrand them from another manufacturer like AMD did.
>>53918282
Zotac everything is second rate and always questionable. They're on par or maybe worse than MSI.
>>53918272
Suck my chode, cuck
>>53918329
More tears? :..(
How about this Kingston KC400 and its Phison PS3110-S10 controller?
>>53918390
Just get an evo 850 or see >>53918177
>>53918390
Do you really need ECC for your SSD?
PROTIP: if you don't have ECC RAM, there's no real point in getting an ECC SSD.
Just buy the consumer version without it.
is sandisk ultra ii considered bad?
they seem to be the lowest priced ssds, but I guess that's for a reason.
samsung, intel, crucial, and sandisk
not in any order, those are the only brands worth looking at
kingston is literally the WORST brand you can get, period.
tlc doesnt matter, the only thing someone should be concerned about is the straight up failure rate, and its just like buying a hard drive: luck of the draw.
>>53918314
>They don't make SSDs. They just rebrand them from another manufacturer like AMD did.
that wasn't my question thought
>>53918320
so, should I spend a little more for an 850 evo?
>>53918454
If you can't get an evo a sandisk plus or ultra ii is the best next choice.
>>53917304
>>53916576
>people falling for this bait/shill
you can't make this shit up
>>53918483
thanks.
seems to be the cheapest 'recognizable' brand of ssd anyway.
>>53918426
b-but it's cheaper than the consumer version :s
>>53918506
ultra 2's are the best bang for the buck you can get.
>>53918533
Then by all means.
>>53918467
It's the worst, because? Until now everything bad said about Kingston is debunked.
the only micro sd cards that have ever failed me have been Kingston.
Actually that's probably not relevant to ssds, but I don't trust the brand now.
>>53918641
All of the ECC RAM that's failed me were Kingston as well...
DDR2 and DDR3
>>53916540
> And are there still actual reliability issues with SSDs released in 2016?
Legends say that controllers were failing frequently in data centers. I believe we're past that anon.
>>53916540
Kingston changed their menory type to a cheaper slower option after the go their initial build. The problem is theyre touting these SSDs as the same great sjit but theyre not.
oh wow the crucial mx200 mlc nand based ssd for its 250gb gets 5tb more minimum endurance than the 850 evo 250gb.
the 500gb mx200 mlc gets 10tb more minimum endurance vs the 850 evo 500gb! wow!
look at the corsair mlc neutron xt 480gb gets an amazing 124tb vs the 850 evo 150tb 500gb!
only one that really "wins" is the mx200 1tb drive with its 320tb minimum endurance rating.
as anandtech summed it up:
>http://www.anandtech.com/show/8747/samsung-ssd-850-evo-review/4
>While write endurance in client workloads was never truly an issue even with planar TLC NAND, the doubled endurance in TLC V-NAND makes it practically impossible to wear out the drive before it has become totally obsolete. Only some very extreme workloads could wear out the smaller capacities before the warranty runs out, but the 850 EVO is a wrong drive for such workloads in the first place. All in all, there should be absolutely no reason to worry about the endurance of the 850 EVO, especially given the endurance ratings Samsung is giving to the 850 EVO (75TB for 120/250GB and 150TB for 500GB/1TB).
the tlc in the 850 evo is VASTLY improved compared to its predecessor found in the 840 evo. the new v-land tlc puts it on par with most mainstream based mlc ssd's in terms of endurance. you have to remember, what the company states is bare minimum and they set extremely conservative ratings. they all far exceed their ratings.
the 850 evo's are fantastic ssd's. excellent endurance and fantastic performers. great drives for games storage and boot drives.
>>53918600
http://techreport.com/review/26664/alleged-bait-and-switch-tactics-spur-kingston-pny-ssd-boycott
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/184253-ssd-shadiness-kingston-and-pny-caught-bait-and-switching-cheaper-components-after-good-reviews
http://www.tweaktown.com/blogs/Chris_Ramseyer/93/bait-and-switch-the-sad-state-of-ssds/index.html
no kingston is pretty shit. along with pny
>>53918733
I remember that. Guess Kingston is an option ONLY if the product is, like, less than 6 months old since release.
>>53918227
>racism is bad
get a load of this nigger.
>>53918738
i'm the guy who keeps bashing tlc and i never once recommended the mx200
>>53918772
>along with pny
Oh no, you got a better SSD then you paid for how horrible!
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/28k0f6/in_response_to_the_pny_news_we_decided_to_buy/
>>53918738
this
vland-tlc doesn't have an endurance problem. its robust and will last far beyond its stated rating. it keeps right up there with mlc. even micron joined on the tlc bandwagon and is starting to produce 16nm tlc.
>>53918641
well guess what, a samsung microsd pro 32GB card failed on me last month
also had kingston usb sticks fail on me. i don't really trust anyone to make sd cards desu. i just buy several disposable ones that are not of too high capacity
>>53918842
yeah I realize that was a dumb thing to comment, but it's my only experience with Kingston products. We're supposed to be discussing ssds anyway.
>>53918820
so? its mlc. mlc is mlc. crucial is owned by micron who makes most mlc nands found in many ssd's on the market today.
you can't go around and bash tlc but skit around mlc shortcomings by ignoring manufacturers.
Plextor and Intel are the only SSD brands I trust.
>>53918772
Basically the V300 is a poorfag SSD made of varying components depending on the availability. Nobody who buys it will compare the numbers, to the customer base it's enough that it visually shits on HDDs to make their cheap computers appear faster than they are. That's it.
It's all allegations, a counter allegation from Kingston is they use varying contractors to make the parts and there can be slight performance differences which don't really show up unless you bench them in the right way.
>>53918834
it actually is because they change specs on the fly.
one minute its great, then shit, then great, then shit. you never get exactly what you paid for. its a game of wac-o-mo with pny and kingston.
>>53918079
nigger, please. i only pay around $10 for this, uncapped
enjoy paying out your ass for copper internets :^)
>>53916576
Is the difference actually noticeable and worth the price difference?
I've 120GB Evo 840 and I'm about to replace it with new 500GB* Evo 850. There are some delays sometimes but I assume it's caused by dirty blocks (I don't use TRIM). But compared to rotating drives the Evo is satisfying enough.
It's actually 465GB if you count in 2^10 as anyone except marketing guys. -_-
>>53918917
$10 deposited into your account for this post. thank you pajeet.
>>53918939
>compared to rotating drives
nigger, even the cheapest ssd is 10 times better than the best mechanical drive
>>53917564
What's wrong with siliconmotion? Is it as bad as sandforce?
>>53916540
>SSD meme
Say that to the Russians that need 3 minutes to load a BF4 map
I can confirm, Samsung PRO are the best SATA SSDs on the market. I bought a 256 840 Pro in 2014 and it still has the same speed as my new 850 Pro in 2016, but after 20 TBW.
Buy Pros if you like to use them more than 1 year. 850 Evos are better but still have problems.
>>53918131
This one says the truth.
But always remember, if you pay some more now you can save on later.
>>53918282
I didn't even knew they produce/sell SSDs... For GPUs Zotac is a shit brand, just like Gainward and Palit, so I wouldn't risk that. Better buy a Samsung SSD used, if you can't afford it or don't want to spent more, I did this for my old shitstation where I don't mind lower speeds, the 2006 PCI gen1 caps all speeds at 130 MB/s anyway.
>>53918842
How the fuck do you have Micro SD cards failing? I've owned generic no-name shit, SanDisk, Kingston, Samsung. All functional and working years and years later. What the fuck do you people do to your hardware?
>>53918938
>he screen recorded his speed test and turned it into a GIF
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>53916540
unknown SSDs usually have bad breath most of the time, whereas a 850 will have it only occasionally.
I'm thinking either Crucial MX200 or Samsung 850 EVO. Which of those should I get? Samsung has supposedly 2 years more warranty.
>>53918938
Ur still a fuckin gypsy tho
>>53919472
>Say that to the Russians that need 3 minutes to load a BF4 map
Yeah, because I totally give a fuck about BF4.
>>53919782
WITNESS ME!
>>53919854
And you possibly give a fuck also if your PC needs to boot minutes instead of 10 seconds.
>>53919689
He's a dumbass gippo, what do you expect
>>53920300
Maybe on the laptop, but on my desktop computer I don't care much since I just turn it on when I get home, and by the time I drop my keys, wallet, shoes and shit the PC is already usable.
>>53916540
5 YEAR WARRANTY
>>53919689
>>53920340
i laughed, because you mongs never heard of licecap
>>53920731
Who gives a shit, you just did one of the most retarded things I've seen in my 7-8 years on /g/. I don't think I'll ever see a retard actually screen record a speedtest. Time stamped end result little JPG like everyone else you dumb faggot.
>>53917672
>mass surveillance
>hurrr
If that's your problem I don't know why you're here.
>>53920442
I thought the same back in 2012. Nothing better than keeping it on 24/7 to avoid the boot times. You should stick with Vista 32 on a 2 GB RAM machine.
In 2016 you get SSDs cheap and byy 2020 they will have the same price as HDDs. I can't wait until I can finally turn my 8 TB into full SSDs.
>>53920907
i can fake a jpg better than i can fake a gif, you speedless pleb
what's wrong? not enough internet for you to see my gif?
There doesn't seem to be an agreement to what to buy. However, is there ones not to buy? Maybe we can agree to that.
Crucial BX200 and Kingston V300 for starters.
a question on the 850 pro:
do i have to OP the SSD at clean install time to get the short term performance benefits or can i just run live gparted on a USB and de-allocate 10 gigs or so? and should i then reformat do anything to that space to get it back to "like new" status?
already googled it but only got answers to this specific question for windows, but i'm on mint 17.3
>>53921147
these
>>53916576
Only buy SSDs from companies that make their own NAND Flash chips.
That's Intel, Samsung, Crucial (Micron), SanDisk, and OCZ (owned by Toshiba).
>>53920987
>I know better than you what you want.
Ok man.
>>53921023
You're missing the point, nobody cares about your bandwidth, are you seriously that naive to think you're in the 1%? The highest I've seen here has been close to gigabit speed using some university's connection. The AWS Ireland-based instance I run averages 450mbps both ways.
You kids need to lurk more before you post.
You seriously thought that your internet speed was so amazing you had to record it for proof, that's fucking cute.
>>53916540
samsung 1tb SSD makes my pc boot to win7 in 12 seconds 15 and usable. best money spent on a PC. Ive had nothing but problems with other brands. Sammy for the win
>>53921393
Sanjay do you want to come with me and Ravdeep to the curry house after work today?
>>53921452
You're doing this meme wrong.
Indians never eat out at restaurants because they're too poor or cheap.
>falling for the tlc is bad meme
Unless you're constantly writing huge 10 gig files a TLC drive is fine. The SLC cache will take care of the writes.
Gona buy the AMD 480GBSSD, for about 140$. Can i do better? Or am i getting my bang4buck?
>>53921874
cant you get Crucial?
>>53921874
Get Crucial. Try to find out from what company AMD rebranded that ssd.
Left is Kingston v300
Middle is Crucial MX200
Right is Kingston Savage
>>53922512
You can't feel shit. Except maybe with the most left one.
FFS an HDD has faster write speeds what the fuck.
Crucial is pretty damn good actually. Intel, Crucial, Sandisk, Samsung are pretty much the only ones worth looking at. The top end corsair ones pretty good too. They have some real cheap ones that are alright. Like a difference of 50mb/s or even 100/s in terms of read speed isn't noticeable, but the fastest are the evos TBQH. This is very much well known.
>>53921874
An Evo 850 500gb costs about the same. Get that unless you want to support AMD or something? Not sure why you'd buy amd ssds. Am I being trolled?
Get a cheap corsair or sandisk and wait for toshiba to release some real good shit next year. I hear they have something very special cooking.
>>53920987
Eh kind of. They need to implement some technology that turns an ssd on for an instantaneous second so that data isn't lost during long periods of inactivity. Some people use HDDs for investigations or storage. They'd be empty or corrupt in some 7-8 years which isn't that long, especially in investigations since cases get reopened like 30 years after the fact and such. That's literally the only downside of SSDs.
The absolute BEST ssds are SLC based which cost an arm and a leg, second comes the evo pro series, then high end intel. Pretty much.
Anyone had or has a Sandisk SSD Plus?
How good is it? i know its better than a HDD, i just want a simple SSD for OS.
Also this thread is full of bait.
>>53921379
Could you also make a gif from that? Just for me to get the feeling how this would look, because I would be glad to have a 16 Mbit connection here.
Also I ever wondered, for such high speeds you need fast SSDs or at least RAIDs?
>>53923303
Here's a screencap from a few days ago because I don't currently have it running. Note its in megaBYTES per second, so, you can see its lightning fast.
>>53923848
Maybe not from a few days ago, you can see the date and all that shit. Its great when you're using a service that takes full advantage of the bandwidth you have.
>tfw pcie/m.2 ssds in raid being a bottlneck for download speeds is a reality to some
Must feel awful
ssds will be obsolete in 10 years
Any thoughts about the MX100/MX200?
>>53925086
See the middle one for mx200. >>53922512
mx100 is older gen.
