>ctrl+f
>no /hsg/
Let's change that.
What do you have and what do you use it for?
>>53878923
Fucking hell. The immeasurable march of storage technologies is always exciting.
T420, running WS2012r2 with a couple W8.1 VMs. Pretty comfy.
I used to have a T61, but it blew up one summer.
Syncthing
Spigot
Teamspeak
Backup
NAS
torrents via VPN
general fucking around
I'm really torn /hsg/. I've been asked by my uni to head up a student managed rack, including colo.
I'm probably going to donate and colo most of my servers into the new rack along with directing the purchase of some others, but it's going to leave my home rack really empty, but at least my hardware will be getting more use...
>>53879190
Like hard drives dont fail enough already.
SSDs when.
>>53879725
when they get cheap enough to be relevant for low I/O stuff.
I have a smallish SSD in my PC to hold the OS, but a 2TB one for my gaymen and archival urges?
I could get 6x 3TB HDDs for the 600 eurobucks that SSD would cost me.
18TB, or 9TB in RAID 1, though in that scenario I'd probably go for 12TB using RAID 6.
>>53879836
SSDs still aren't quite suitable for archival purposes, unless you have quite a loose definition of archival. Notably, they tend to have poor data retention when left powered down. But certainly for gaming and general media hoarding, that seems reasonable if expensive.
>>53878923
>>53881312
thats so old HP gear.
>>53879836
>or 9TB in RAID 1
You mean RAID 10 right?
I would go for that instead of 6, better performance.
Unless you want to use it pure for archival purposes
>>53881468
Everything but the supermicro is just for backup and testing, the supermicro stuff is current gen.
>>53879878
>poor data retention when powered down
its not 2000 anymore, sdds just werk
>>53881624
It's not 2000 anymore but the issue remains.
>>53878923
Any tips on getting started with babby's first server/database? Im building a website and I need to gather, compute, and store data on my users. Pls help?
>>53882059
I'm that guy -- >>53879221 and I have no experience with websites and databases, but at least I can give some pointers on hardware.
Depends, really, what your compute needs are.
I have seen anything from Raspis to fully populated racks in these threads.
In ascending order of computational power, I'd recommend
Raspi
used business laptop (dell/lenovo/hp)
(maybe NUC)
used business workstation (dell/lenovo/hp)
racks
My t420 serves me well at low power. If I didn't have those external drives I wouldn't even need a UPS, as the laptop has its own battery.
tldr; estimate your future needs and buy accordingly.
>>53882059
Late to the party, but just rent a VPS or in The Cloud™. No investment and easier if you're a scrub.
>>53883518
I have an Dell Vostro 200 im gonna use as a debian server for torrenting & media and maybe some other fun stuff I would like on a server.
Anything I should think about?
>>53886028
killing yourself
>old as balls hp laptop running as a ssh gateway to home network
>dl380 g5 running 3 srcds, 1 rust server and 1 modded minecraft server
>scrap bin q6600 tower running all my web/file services
I should swap the g5's and q6600's workload, but good capacity 2.5" drives are expensive
>>53878923
That's a pretty vintage meme
>HP microserver gen8
>Xeon e3 1260v2
>16gb ecc ram
>250gb samshit ssd
>4x4tb WD red
>3x3tb externals
>Ubuntu server
Just got an lsi 9207-8e in the post this morning. Feels gud
/hsg/, I need hard drive recommendations
the server I was using for my hypervisor and ultimately my dev environment has had 2 out of 4 of it's drives go bad, and the raid 5 set is completely gone now
I want to re-purpose it into a kind of NAS box, I'm looking mainly at 2TB 7200 rpm drives because I want to use it partly for NFS datastores for virtual machines, and just general network storage
has anyone else done something like this? would I be taking much of a performance hit?
what are the best drives for this? I would like to keep the drive cost down
Recently got a Xeon TS140 on craigslist for $100. Upgrading from a N270 atom netbook I've been running for 7 years.
really sooths the autism to have ECC
>>53885777
It's for a school project, wouldn't look good if I hired people. Any software recommendations?
Just upgraded from a Raspberry Pi 2 to a Raspberry Pi 3. Works great.
>>53879878
>buys a server with SSD storage
>powers it down
If you power down servers you better off with external HDD or a prebuild NAS to be fair.
>>53878923
you're not funny
>>53888400
Uncalled for.
DL370 G6. It's actually a very expandable and friendly server to work on, and parts are pretty cheap. I use it as a server for all purposes, home VM lab and file server. Running two L5630 processors it's pretty low power and just hums along quietly even under load.
>>53888400
>thinking OP made that
That photo's probably older than you are.
>>53878923
Remember when that was a lot of space? You can now by SSDs bigger than that.
NAS, plex, git annex, mumble server, znc, seedbox, mpd
3x 3TB drives zfs mirrored
>>53888518
>4.81 Tb for logs
shit nigger what are you doing
hackintosh
lots of data analysis
quite a bit of porn
driving some 4k monitors that a laptop wouldn't handle very well
>>53888626
>hackintosh
just an hero
>>53882059
>>53887532
You're not hiring people, you get to configure all the actual software shit yourself which is the actual meaningful part. The actual hardware for a home server you barely do anything since your network topology should be really simple. Plus hosting a public website from your home connection is dumb and a good way to get kicked off it or forced into an expensive business plan. AWS servers are cheap and even have a free option, just do that.
Also software just depends on what you're comfortable with, comfortable with Windows more? Windows Server. Like Linux more? Linux server. Probably CentOS would be a good bet.
>>53888657
How do you stay so edgy?
I'm fine with just 1TB
Cheers, Logan
>>53888604
>/tank/log
Why 4.8TB for LOG files
hey guys i want to build a new pc and use the parts on my current pc to build a NAS. how doable would this be? which parts can i use and which parts should i not even bother with?
>>53890008
>which parts can i use
All of them. Literally any computer with a network connection and some storage can be a NAS. Use ethernet and not wifi if you know whats good for you.
>>53890041
but would a low-mid end computer really make a decent nas?
>>53890113
Well if you were going to put it in a server rack feeding data to a few dozen hungry VMs, no, it'd be shit. But you aren't doing that, you're just storing some stuff and occasionally retrieving it. Probably only one user at a time (you). That's a very undemanding job, a Pentium 2 could do it.
>>53879836
Why RAID6? I never understood the advantage of 6 over 1+spares.
>>53890352
The idea of RAID 6 is that a drive dies, you replace it and start the rebuild. But resilvering an array takes a long time these days because hard drives are huge. With RAID 5 if you lose a drive during that process, you're fucked, everything's gone. RAID 6 can survive a second failure during that time.
Same thing applies comparing it to RAID 1. Have a RAID 1, a drive dies, now you have a vulnerable period during the rebuild where if another drive bites it, you lose everything. I guess you could have a three-drive RAID 1, but now you're only getting 33% of the capacity of your disks, whereas RAID 6 gives you (n-2)/n.
>>53890113
yeah as long as you have enough SATA ports for however many drives you want. Software RAID would slow it down a little, but if you do backups rather than RAID it's fine
>>53890444
>I guess you could have a three-drive RAID 1, but now you're only getting 33% of the capacity of your disks, whereas RAID 6 gives you (n-2)/n.
got it, thanks anon
>>53890453
would you recommend adding extra SATA ports?
>>53890494
If you need more ports than are available why would you not?
>>53890544
true, whats the max number of expandable hdd's on a stock dell motherboard with i3 cpu
>>53878923
>there must always be a general for the thread i like to shitpost in
neo-/g/ needs to die
>>53890561
It's going to vary board to board, I'm guessing you'll have 6+ to work with
>>53878923
Trying really really hard to condense. Anything that has to be added can be done with Storage Spaces Direct nodes, or NUC's.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CNnnkL
Torrents, file storage, backups of my desktop computers.
I sometimes run a minecraft server on it too.
Been meaning to setup NIC bonding, but i've been lazy about that. Want to switch to btrfs too, but think I'll try that once I get some new drives.
>>53890494
Your mobo probably already has 4 or 6 ports which is enough for most uses.
>>53890572
>>53890641
thats perfect, thanks guys.
>>53889806
Not the log you're thinking about and that's 78GB
>>53878923
NAS
Intel c2550
32GB ECC RAM
5x2TB WD reds raidz1
4x128GB SSDs in raid1
1x256GB SSD iSCSI disk
Virtual host
Intel e5 2680
128GB ECC RDIMMS
1x2TB local storage (most of everything is on the NAS)
I use the nas for hot backups and I use the virtual host for virtual machines, it currently has about 12.
>>53888546
4.81T is the available pool space, there isn't 4.81T allocated only for tank/log
those aren't partitions, they're datasets
>>53888518
zfs is best fs
>>53890690
I didn't say it was taking up 4.8TB, I say's why so much for the partition.
>>53879221
Why would you do that to your poor thinkpad? Just get a cheap desktop.
>>53878923
What do you guys do with your servers anyhow?
I really don't see much of a point other than maybe a NAS.
>>53891788
My server is a netbook siting in my desk. Since my main computer has no SD card I made a script and a simple webapp that allows me to use the netbooks SD card to transfer files. It's also a mirror of my production server, so I have another server to test stuff on.
Need to get a big drive for my media server. I was considering the 6TB HGST deskstar drive, as I hear they're pretty reliable and generally don't fail. Thoughts? Suggestions?
Glorified retard here.
I wanted to make a home server for media, but if that's the case I could just slap more HDD's in my personal rig.
Please enlighten me with what you all have yours doing day to day.
>>53888518
>Xeon
Isn't that thing a bit power inefficient for a server I presume to be on all the time?
>>53892263
Nah
>>53892300
>80W tdp
Oh wow, lol. Okay, that's much lower than I expected
>>53892250
I have all my media in HDDs in my personal rig
then I have a server full of HDDs that makes backups of all of it. So if a hard drive dies or I fuck up and get cryptolocker or I delete the wrong thing, I don't lose any data.
also the server can be a quiet low-power thing that I leave on all the time, so if I want my stuff from my laptop, my desktop doesn't have to be on.
>>53892263
depends on which xeon. they make a lot of low-power ones. There's big demand for that from datacenters, since if you have a whole datacenter full of servers, you pay twice for every watt of power - once for the electricity, and once for the A/C to remove the heat it makes. Save five watts each on ten thousand servers and you can cut your power draw by 100 kilowatts. That adds up to big savings mighty quickly.
then again sometimes you just gotta go fast so there's big 140/165W ones too.
>>53887155
>tfw I got two of the same microserver, but a good CPU upgrade tthat isn't insanely overpriced is nowhere to be found
Should've bought it when it came out, sigh.
>>53890862
>capital letter in hostname
>>53892950
The E3-1240 (V1) works just fine, and they're about $100 US.
Good enough for Plex, Hyper-V, SQL, and a couple other things.
>>53891788
I have my odroid u3 set up as not power hungry XBMC htpc, NAS, ftp and http server (http for easy lan access of files over phone and for guests). Uploading my movie collection 24/7 for 35days now and also seedbox. Processor is still almost at idle and consumes up to 10W only... bonus, it takes only 20cm2 in a drawer.
>>53893014
From where? CPUs for LGA1155 are mostly EOL, and the availability is sparse. Especially so because I don't live in the US.
>>53893108
eBay.
Buddy gave me a copy of os x tiger server (10.4.7 so should be universal binary) for free recently and I'd like to dip my toes in building a server just for file sharing, printing, etc.
Worth getting an old mac mini g4 for that? I assume if it's just sharing an HD video the age of the computer shouldn't matter right? I see them on craigslist for 20$ all the time. Could always spend a little and get a core 2 duo mini for cheap as well.
>inb4 apple hate
I've got a soft spot for outdated software and Tiger is a trip down memory lane.
>>53893245
> HD Video
If it's just a simple file share, no, it should not matter.
If you're trans-coding, well, that can be pretty CPU intensive...
Next upgrades:
Faster AC router
Another 2TB HDD for NAS
NUC for that plex media server goodness
New elected government for that tasty 100/40 NBN
>>53893233
Can't say I've seen anywhere close to $100 in a long time desu.
>>53893277
what good is AC wifi if your connection is 1mb down?
you can save yourself some bandwidth at least by using host file to block all ads
>>53893340
http://www.ebay.com/itm/INTEL-XEON-E3-1240-SR00K-3-30-GHz-8-M-MAX-TURBO-CLOCK-3-70-GHz-SOCKET-1155-/172157634907?hash=item281565095b:g:CDgAAOSwLpdW-0HP
>>53893384
Internal transfers?
Just because internet is slow, that doesn't mean that the rest of the network has to be.
>>53893389
well I'll be damned, thanks
>>53893483
Yep. Enjoy.
>>53893384
The ad thing might help me a little, ill look into that.
I download 30GB Movie rips, so AC wireless will help me when I need to move them. Also the router switch only supports fast ethernet.
>>53892950
Senpai I was lucky. Someone put that cpu up for £95. Would get another microserver in a heartbeat but like you said the CPU upgrades are hard to come by plus people know what models are wanted for microserver so they're expensive anyway.
Shame because I can get a microserver for £170ish new.
>>53890639
What comnand is this?
>>53893623
You can also setup your own dns cache and stuff
Personally I use an old 2nd gen raspberry pi latched onto my router running pi-hole, I also setup dns-crypt on it as well for faster more secure dns results
>>53893715
This looks great, does it also block youtube ads on mobile / chromecast etc?
>>53893277
good thing you got router firmware with QoS. 1mbit sucks so hard without it
>>53893384
A browser plugin will save just as much BW though
>>53893983
It wont apply globally, just on my pc,
My family also use the internet and mobile etc
Raspberry Pi running Arch Linux ARM. I used it to host a MUD I made a while ago, but since then I haven't used it. Any ideas on shit to do with the raspi to keep me busy? I don't have any cameras/wifi adapter shit though
>>53893971
no idea about chromecast as I don't have one
it at least blocks them in browsers, you have to make sure you set both ipv4 and ipv6
>>53894000
oh ok, then blocking at the router level would be pretty good
>>53879878
I already have an SSD in my laptop as my only disk, but for my PC I'm planning to use an SSD as an OS/scratch disk.
>get game/film/data
>load it on SSD
>play it/play it/read it
>once I get bored, move it to 1TB storage I have
Pretty sound plan, imho.
