>mtk6753 destroys SD615
>mtk6752 destroys SD801
>heliox10 destroys SD810
>heliox20 destroys SD820
Let's not forget that the mediatek chips are more efficient, offer better battery life and run cooler than the snapdragon chips while also costing significantly less.
Heliox10 can be had for as cheap as a hundred dollars in the redmi note 2.
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>>53839364
This sexy thing uses a mediatek and gets 25 - 30 hours SoT per charge depending on use.
According to various review sites.
A shame the mobile landscape is so shit that there's no reasonable choices but Nexus anyway. And it's not like those are good, mind, they're just the least terrible.
>>53839718
Have you ever looked at Chinese phones?
The only issue with those is the lack of updates, but they're so cheap you could literally buy a new one every year.
>>53839880
This.
Could buy a 200 dollar Chinese phone every year and still save money instead of buying a flagship android or iPhone, while still getting the same performance.
>>53838840
Multicore performance its better than the galaxy s6
But single core performance is shit
t. redmi note 2 owner
>>53840043
>>53840043
>Shit
>Literally 90% as good as phones that cost 4* as much.
Pick one.
>>53840043
>single core performance is shit
Apple chips destroy every other ARM derivative at single core performance anyway.
>>53839880
>The only issue with those is the lack of updates
Exactly. There are mountains of perfectly fine hardware getting obsoleted way before what should otherwise be their expected lifetime. Buying a new phone every year will only marginally help, as they're still not getting proper updates. Having one's phone not be up-to-date should not be considered acceptable; no one should walk around with known vulnerabilities on their most personal device.
Now, the phone brands are not fully to blame. My complaint is more relevant to the topic of the thread, and that is how chipset manufacturers make it nigh impossible to keep a phone promptly updated for most companies. Sure, said companies could do a lot better than they do, but they're shouldering far from all the blame.
>>53840085
How do chipset manufacturer make it harder?
>>53840085
there's no active XDA development for the popular chink phones?
>>53840085
But it's still cheaper to buy a Chinese phone every year.
>>53840043
>>53840056
Single thread performance isn't as important on Android because it's a platform that takes advantage of more cores effectively.
>>53840097
Things have to be specialised to such a huge degree for every phone. Not how you can't just slap a generic kernel on an Android device and call it a day. Note how Android devices pretty much never change kernel versions throughout their lifetime.
>>53840105
Even if there is, point stands. Third party development without a prior base to work on is a lot rougher. Note how Nexus phones have the best custom ROM support. And it means nothing for the average user who isn't going to unlock their bootloader.
>>53840118
Honestly, I'm not even sure it's much cheaper. Nexus 5X currently goes for two thirds of original price in my country and will last for far longer than a year. If it's still too much, then there's always previous generation second hand one could go for.
>>53840118
single core performance is fucking king you dumb dumb
>>53840198
>And it means nothing for the average user who isn't going to unlock their bootloader.
who gives a fuck about the average pleb?
>Third party development without a prior base to work on is a lot rougher.
yeah it's rough in the beginning but CM got their shit working on my phone with MM without any base for it.
i think it's a better idea than shelling out more money for the phone with the latest updates unless the phone absolutely cannot be made to work with generic CM drivers/modules.
>>53840226
>who gives a fuck about the average pleb?
The world doesn't revolve around us. Furthermore, in this case, what would be an immense improvement for the average user would also be an improvement for you and me.
>yeah it's rough in the beginning but CM got their shit working on my phone with MM without any base for it.
As they often do. Alas, those releases are often of lesser quality.
>unless the phone absolutely cannot be made to work with generic CM drivers
There's no such thing as generic CM drivers. To simplify it somewhat, that's the whole issue here.
>performance of a telephone matters
Anyone that even has a smartphone is a faggot normie and needs to get the fuck off this board.
>>53840198
Well not sure about your country, but here the k3 note with a mediatek 6752 sells for less than $150 with 2gb ram, sd card support and a 1080p screen.
Galaxy s5 sells for $650
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/phones/Outright-Mobile-Handsets/samsung/samsung-galaxy-s5-16gb-black/550012/
Same with the nexus 5x, also $650.
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/phones/Outright-Mobile-Handsets/lg/lg-nexus-5x-32gb-black/841308/
And moto x 2ng gen is $400
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/phones/Outright-Mobile-Handsets/motorola/motorola-moto-x-2nd-gen-black-handset/681994/
That lenovo should offer similar performance to the s5 and Nexus, better processor but weaker gpu, while destroying that moto x, for a fifth the price of the s5 or Nexus, or a third the price of the moto.
See my point?
>>53840368
Just want to mention that in multithread the mtk6752 in the k3 note is only 100 points below an iPhone 6s.
>>53840368
Those prices differ heavily from over here, but yes, I do see your point. I understand painfully well how people get driven to such purchases that will leave them with an outdated device. While I wish that people would see the importance of the problem, consumers such as you are certainly not to blame for it.
If people flocked to Nexus devices, it'd put some welcome pressure on phone companies to keep their shit up-to-date, but it brings us back to my original point of how they're not the only responsible party.
>>53838840
Chinese hardware based botnet. No thanks
>>53840487
The device being outdated isn't so much of a problem when it's so much cheaper.
You could buy 4 Chinese phones for the price of a nexus 5x and have 50 dollars left over to buy a 128GB micro SD card for your phone.
You can upgrade a Chinese phone every year, or upgrade your flagship every 2 years like most people do, but you'll still end up paying half as much for the 2 Chinese phones.
That's how it is here in australia at least, not sure about where you are.
tl;dr
Updates don't matter when you can buy a new phone every year and still be spending less.
>>53840557
>The device being outdated isn't so much of a problem when it's so much cheaper.
Yes, it is. It should not be considered acceptable for a device to run outdated software when there's no good reason for it to not be up-to-date. Worse yet, people walk around with known vulnerabilities, on what is likely to be their most personal device. This should not be regarded as acceptable whatsoever, yet with the kind of hardware phone companies have to work with, it is almost unavoidable even if they get their shit in gear.
Let me repeat here that I understand why people get the cheaper devices. I understand that some people find SD cards important and don't want to pay 50 EUR or USD or equivalent for 16 GB extra internal storage. I'm not the kind of chucklefuck that goes hyuk-hyukh-look-at-the-poorfag.
I think I made a mistake in mentioning the situation on my own country, where (without looking into it too much) it seems that getting two phones along the lines of what you posted would cost about as much as a Nexus 5X. It's frankly not all too relevant. I just wanted to encourage people to get a device that fucks them over the least (not monetarily speaking, obviously).
>8 weak cores
no thank you
why can't we have a good dual core SoC for Android devices?
>>53840743
Why do you want to go back to 2 cores on an OS that takes advantage of 4 at almost all times?
>>53840809
because applications don't
>>53840809
Doesn't android take advantage of 8?
>>53840815
Which ones don't? And which ones lag as a result of it.
>>53838840
>mobile performance
and yet it still loses to any shitty x86 part shitted out by AMD
>>53840818
all when comparing to iOS devices
>>53840831
Ios is shit.
It can't even use more than 2 cores.
>>53840846
there have been 3 core iOS devices
barely can Android, even Nvidia realized this when introducing their better version of the K1 which was dual core
>>53840856
They dropped the third core when they realised they are too incompetent to program for more than 2.
>>53840877
android apps barely use cores either
>>53838840
Mediatek is shit when it comes to GPS.
>>53840902
http://www.androidauthority.com/fact-or-fiction-android-apps-only-use-one-cpu-core-610352/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Quad-core-vs-octa-core-does-Android-and-apps-use-all-the-cores_id69676/
What rustles my jimmies is that 64bit should already be the norm in Android.
>>53840942
>a telephone should be 64-bit
Do you faggots even realise what you sound like?
>>53839880
>lack of updates
Get a oneplus or xiaomi device..
>>53838840
Does multicore performance even matter?
>>53841000
>2016
>thinking single thread is the only performance that matters
>not realising most android apps are optimised for 4 cores.
>>53840984
we really need that number crunching power for facebook and candy crush
>>53841014
>not realising most android apps are optimised for 4 cores
Given the shitty performance, obviously not. Are they really? How well? Why do iPhones have much better performance even when ignoring the much better NAND speed?
>>53841035
They're actually about equal 2bh.
Android is faster in some things, iPhone in others.
>>53841020
Rocking a 64bit soc now, but because some dickhead decided, I run this shit in 32
>>53840984
It has overgrown the term "telephone" a long time ago, dickhead. They are fucking pocketable computer powerhouses.
>>53838840
Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 owner here. I really like my phone and MIUI. It looks much better and has more built in features than CM. I dont know why you faggots want vanilla Android.
MIUI gets updates every fucking week as well
>>53841045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ8pTGCcW7A
Now we're done with funny videos ...
>Android is faster in some things
Like what? Which apps really use all the cores and benefit from multi threading? I am honestly curious and don't get the 35225 cores trend. big.Little shit doesn't seem any more efficient either.
>>53840929
the cores are doing nothing
>>53841102
Nice phone anon, I still have a oneplus one but would kill for a metal case and fingerprint scanner.
>>53841110
Web browsing is better with more cores and more ram. IPhone only recently upgraded from 1gb ram.
>>53841148
RAM, certainly and 1GB is pure cancer but cores? Are there any benchmarks for it?
>>53841126
Having a fingerprint scanner is really convenient instead of having to drag your password. I dont know how to feel about the aluminium, it feels nice and sturdy but it's so fucking slippery
>>53841180
Yes, in the above links chrome was using 4 cores. That also leaves the extra cores to do background processes in Android devices that have more than 4 cores.
Considering most android high end phones only recently moved from 4 cores to 8, expect more multi thread optimisations to follow.
>>53838840
Did they fix the gps locking yet?
that's a deal breaker for me.
inb4getagarmin
>>53839464
>30 hour sot
why do you lie on the internet?
>>53841749
I don't, it fucking has a 10,000mAh battery paired with a quad core 1ghz 64bit mediatek and 720p screen.
>>53841733
K3 note doesn't seem to have it
>>53840726
>Yes, it is. It should not be considered acceptable for a device to run outdated software when there's no good reason for it to not be up-to-date. Worse yet, people walk around with known vulnerabilities, on what is likely to be their most personal device. This should not be regarded as acceptable whatsoever, yet with the kind of hardware phone companies have to work with, it is almost unavoidable even if they get their shit in gear.
desu senpai, this is the case with literally every smartphone, no need to stress about it, you can't really try to make a point out of it because every smartphone sucks in terms of updates
>>53842011
If you want to make it black-and-white, then yes, that's somewhat true. There's no phone that gets updates in an ideal manner. But if we look at in further detail, there's a huge range of difference. Compare Nexus phones, getting updates monthly for a few years, to whatever random phone that's out-of-date already at release, with any updates it gets being equally outdated, if it indeed gets any at all.
>>53838840
Now look at the gpu score
>>53842197
A mobile phone doesn't need a very powerful GPU, the only case where one would be used would be in gaming, which is irrelevant as games like MC5 are trash
>>53842197
How much do you really need to run a 1080p or 720p display?
Fact is the gpu is a little slower, but still plenty strong for a phone and 64 bit mediatek SoCs use less power than qualcomm ones.
>>53841733
MediaTek current SoC generation has little to no problems with GPS locking.
>>53841733
I have 2 uber drivers using lenovo k3 note and they said it's perfect.
I myself have another k3 note, but I don't use GPS as much as my drivers.
Before that they had a Samsung Galaxy A, that came with the cellphone plan, they said that the uber and waze app would freeze from time to time, so I sold those 2 cellphones and bought on tinydeal the 3 the k3 note.
I think mediatek is a really good company since 2012, I still remember the first HTC clones with mtk chipsets and they were shit, but now the quality and value of the products is actually competitive.
Also I could get 3 phones for the price of one, think about that.
