/g/neet + Linux thread
>implying anybody does shit while NEET
Self employed is 24/7 work. Pure misery.
>>53837090
Not if you hit the app goldmine
>>53837485
Can someone explain how to actually make money with apps?
>>53837972
get lucky
hit the right audience at the right time
get lucky
I say "get lucky" twice because the market is absolutely flooded. but the "app goldmine" is mostly getting lucky and gaining momentum before others do
You can make small money by finding a niche. I dunno what the niche is, you gotta find that. I work with friends on video game random class generators which make like $60/mo on the website and $30/mo on the app. App has about 3000 active installs right now, not sure about the site
I make money in my sleep, that's real
You awake and can't even get a bill
>>53837972
It's tough. I have a $3 app (with free trial) that sells a copy every other day or so. That's about $30 a month, after Store fees are taken out. $20 after taxes, since this is just a hobby of mine and my real programming job puts me in a nasty bracket. I definitely shouldn't quit my day job. As a one-man app developer, making anything is a lot of work! And nobody wants to pay for an app these days.
Perhaps ads are better for generating revenue, but I probably need to A/B test to figure that outt. Back when my app was freeware, it got 7x as many downloads per day.
>>53836762
dropped out of studenthood
now trying to fight myself into starting a fight with the uk welfare system so i can be a neet
>tfw looking over the requirements, i can get benefits that require me to show up to an interview (but not actively seek work) or do some training every so often "work related activity", but not ones that accept i'm a total writeoff failure.
t-thanks tony
>>53838793
Why the fuck would you want to be a NEET?
>>53839113
there are a number of very good reasons related to the practicality of me getting and keeping a job, but there's also inertia (not had a job, failure of uni becoming apparent and abandoning work in turn.) making it a preferable option to coast into.
live as i've always lived.
(i also don't need a high income as there aren't many things that i want)
>>53839113
if I could go NEET style, fully supported in life, I'd use it to start a business with friends without worrying about actual profit. Would be great, all the possibility of success and no risk of failure
>>53839573
Where would you get the money from?
>>53839663
nowhere, it's hypothetical, that's why I said "IF"
>>53838647
Fuck it dude, just make your shit free and put ads everywhere.
That's how everyone makes money these days.
>Not GNU/Windows
>>53836762
You fags only use Linux because you're NEET.
>graduate from hs
>spend 4 years nurturing my music production hobby
>Vaporware, synth pop, future funk, future bass, ambient, 8bit
>have worked hourly at dad's place for 6-7 years, earning a bit of money
>live with parents
>have roughly $6200
>got contacted by a company in January
>has been working on the soundtrack for a game for the past 3 months
>supposed to make a whole lot of money soon
>also working on the coding off their website
>looking for a 50-75% job in the meantime because I want a drivers license
Everything is going to be daijoubu.
>>53837078
I'm teaching myself programming while NEET.
>>53839773
Not a very good fucking hypothesis then, is it?
>>53840455
The question was "why would you want to be NEET" not "how".
>>53836762
>implying you get told to work a double shift or overtime when you work at most warehouse
that shit only happens to factory and food production cucks
>>53840807
And software engineers
>>53839826
Basically this.
Also you need to make something that doesnt already exist or at the very least improve something that already does.
Also games make the most money. Parents buy their kids cheapo android tablets and thats were the money is, Make the next flappybird or soda crush and you could be a millionaire.
>>53843232
>Make the next flappybird or soda crush and you could be a millionaire.
That's like saying "be the next Microsoft". It's not easy, it's tons of luck
>be NEET
>live alone because I get enough autisimbux to live in fuckall nowhere Kansas somewhat comfortably
>do whatever online all day
>~$150/mo do whatever money
>still want to kill self because I don't have the motivation to better myself
>>53836762
>mfw God-tier Mid-tier combo
I work as a translator and I'm studying translation at the moment. It's quite enjoyable, actually, although the deadlines can be a bitch sometimes. Right now I'm working on a fantasy novel translation and when I told my employer that I'd have to move the deadline back two months, he told me "no problem, better later and have you healthy than sooner and having to pay for a shrink!"
My boss is awesome.
>>53843439
>150$ a month
Are you happy? Like seriously, I get 200$ a DAY when I get a good contract.
Guys, sorry to make this post, I know it's annoying but I have to ask you something.
I was NEETing for a long time and sustaining myself with stuff like affiliate marketing... most tech stuff I did was creating landing pages in HTML/CSS
Now I have a real job but I hate it and want to go back to being a semi-NEET, ie. I want to work from home
What should I focus on to get freelance gigs that pay OK?
I'm mostly interested in stuff like web scraping, but I could do anything... my knowledge of programming is basic right now
Basically I'm looking to find a niche field that is not super hard to learn but has a decent amount of freelance jobs available ?
Should I learn Ruby/Rails ?
Just give me some ideas anons
I already gave up on the idea of having a career or anything decent in this life, I just want to find a comfy way to make enough money to sustain myself
I live in a cheap country so $1000 a month would be more than enough
>>53839573
>with friends
>friends
I don't think you have the right stuff to become a /g/ neet.
Better luck next time.
>>53843517
What kind of a dev are you?
>>53843627
get a real job at a supermarket or a mcdonalds
>>53843499
>what languages you domain?
>tfw no start up idea
>>53843627
Bumpng for being relevant to my intersets, also what nano-degrees should I be taking to acquire the skillset optimally earn goods $/hour spent I want to dedicate most of my time to a tech start up I am a member of).
>INB4: Nano degrees hurrrrr
I will be getting them for free but I need to choose wisely because I can only ask for a limited amount and I will not waste my time with half-completed shit.
>>53843627
>cheap country
>need $1000 per month to survive
Try again
The true god-tier is free-lance working, you have all of the perks of being self-employed plus you have someone else paying taxs and do the paper work for you
How do NEETs get money? I mean they still need a place to live and bills to pay...
>>53843892
NEETs are patronized by their parents or the government or both.
>>53843906
Are you a NEET if you make money trading in the stock market?
A question to all the neets here:
If you could earn a living sucking cock, would you?
>>53843713
English/German/Czech
>>53843679
No dev, translator/interpreter. Seriously, people pay me 200$ just to stand there and say what someone else says.
I always thought programming was the ultimate Jew of work (you write something for someone so that they don't have to do all the work themselves), but interpreting is the best.
>Pay: 200$/day minimum, I can tack on some other stuff that gets me more money (topic of discussion, travel expenses, my fucking time because I can't do other stuff while I'm on an interpretation job)
>If the thing is cancelled within 24/48 hours, I get about 70 % of the pay and get to stay home because I had to cancel all other interpretation jobs that day
>If I work into a B language (not my mother tongue), I can charge extra because that shit is more "difficult"
>If I work SIMULTANEOUS interpretation, that shit is paid like crazy. Usually you need extra equipment, but you borrow that for 100$ and then you get paid 500$. AND YOU CHARGE THEM FOR THE EQUIPMENT TOO, SO YOU KEEP 500$!
It's the kike job and our work ethic is that of prostitutes: We pay you money, you do what we want. But it's so well-paid, that I can't think of anything better.
>>53843232
>>53837972 here. Is there a way to project revenue from ads? I have usage data; about 15K "page views" per week. I think it's safe to assume it'll grow to maybe 65K "page views" per week if I make it free again.
>>53843936
Probably.
>>53843950
Whoops, misquoted. I'm the $3 app guy from >>53838647
Also, is in-app advertising going to require me to do additional work in optimizing what ads my users see? Is anyone here doing in-app advertising?
>>53843936
I think for most NEETs it boils down to how much better their life would be.
>Get 20 more neetbux a month if you suck dick
>NO
>Get 20K more neetbux a month if you suck dick
>SIGN ME UP
>>53843936
You mean I can get paid for it?!
>>53844078
Just swallow and you get paid with precious proteins to supplement your diet.
>>53844099
>>53844078
Just do it.
>>53843936
No but i knew a guy who lived at the expense of his prostitute gf.
She was pretty good at cooking too.
>>53844078
Sure if you are a girl or a cute enough boy you could make lots of money selling yourself to rich old white men in FL.
>>53844233
What the fuck. How can you live with a GF who is openly a prostitute?
>Hi honey, how was the day?
>Nothing interesting, just a DP, some spitroasting, the usual stuff. You want waffles tomorrow for breakfast?
>>53844257
>What the fuck. How can you live with a GF who is openly a prostitute?
Don't know, but his friends were always like "Dude are you really sure you're ok with that?" and he always said he didn't care and that it was just a job. She also adored him apparently.
>>53843158
If you're a beta cuckboy and you let your boss push you around, then you'll get taken advantage of no matter what job you take.
If you learn how to enforce your boundaries and say no to unreasonable demands, then you'll be fine.
Unfortunately most software developers are betas, so there's a cultural expectation in the industry that developers will put up with stupid and unreasonable demands.
I work for a temporary jobs agency, and I've been working on greenhouses for 3.5 years in England (first job I got when I got here from Portugal). It wasn't that bad and the minimum wage even went higher to 7.20£/h (so I got a bit over 350£/week), but this year they changed the whole fucking system and we set down pots instead of boxes, so it's killing by back to the point I have to apply cream every day.
I've put my mind on learning Python to learn the basics of programming and then I'll go ahead with Java. I just want enough money to be able to pay the bills and food, since the house back in Portugal is already been paid off.
Sorry for the blogpost, but it's somewhat related to the OPs subject and I just wanted to get this out.
>>53844288
Well you know, if you're okay with that, you're the unicorn of a guy. 99 % would NOT be okay with it (or at least I assume, the amount of cuck porn out there is astounding).
>>53844233
>>53844307
I saw a guy like that on one of my jobs
>Go to Scotland
>with a buddy/employer (best combo)
>look at some greenhouses
>a guy there is from my country
>he's packing up some greenhouses (can't go into detail)
>his boss tells us he owns 7 houses in central Prague and that he did that in 10 years of working here, doing the pleb jobs
Seriously impressed by that.
>>53844304
>f you're a beta cuckboy and you let your boss push you around, then you'll get taken advantage
I have fantasies like that
>>53837078
i was a neet, then i self taught art and make money off commissions
>>53840445
education stops you being a neet
>>53844333
>(or at least I assume, the amount of cuck porn out there is astounding)
You'd be surprised, watched some investigation show once where they'd interview prostitutes one the street and most of them said their husbands knew about it, they didn't want them doing that job but they couldn't get work so their wives had no other option.
>>53844344
Poor nigga, gives me the feels every time.
Hope it turned out ok for him the end.
>>53844490
See, that's what's wrong with the world. If a guy can't provide for his family, he shouldn't have one to start with. That's my biggest fear, not cancer, not getting my legs blown off, my two big fears are
>not being able to fuck my GF
>not being able to provide for her
I'm the tranlsatorfag from here, btw.
>>53844367
He probably wasn't getting minimum wage.
What people from those countries usually do is they work for some years and buy houses back in their countries and use a company to rent them.
So, they're getting money from working in the greenhouses and they recieve passive income from the rented houses.
This is possible due to the exchange rate. In Poland, for example, the £ is 5x worth their money. That's why a lot of polish come and do the season (5/6 months) and then come back to Poland and live like kings and queens the rest of the year.
>>53844541
These are the fears I have too desu
on that same list stands
>not being able to give my future wife kids
>>53844541
>>53844490
>2016
>getting cücked by the diapered jew
>>53844587
In the Czech republic, it's 35 or 37 times that. So it's a fucking goldmine.
>>53844595
Not a big deal for me, should probably go to a lab to get my jizz tested.
>>53844541
>If a guy can't provide for his family, he shouldn't have one to start with.
Thing is, it was mostly middle aged people that lost their jobs during the european recession and can't get job now, but yeah i understand your point.
>>53844618
>In the Czech republic, it's 35 or 37 times that. So it's a fucking goldmine.
Too bad I don't really like those countries, or else I would do the same thing they do. Hopefully I'll be able to do it in Portugal, since the hole in the system is getting bigger and bigger.
Guys you have to learn Ruby/Rails to get great freelance bux
>>53844653
You actually don't have to live here, just buy the houses and rent them out...
>>53844621
That's a really fucked up thing to have happen to you, but I was thinking more like the 20 y.o. hipster nu-male and stuff like that.
Come to think of it, my dad lost his job on his birthday. Middle-aged, he just said "FUCK IT" and took almost a year off. I didn't notice, he had so much money saved up he could afford everything for all that time like normally.
>>53844714
>You actually don't have to live here, just buy the houses and rent them out...
Is it that easy? I thought I needed to have an address in there and oher shit like that for verification.
But again, the money probably doesn't have any value when converted to Euros.
>>53844743
>>53844743
It's a good way to get a rent-worth of money.
It's approximately CZK6000 if you're a good guy, but CZK10000 isn't unheard of, just depends on what you buy.
Divide that number by 25 and you get your income in Euros. I don't think you need an address here, developers are building houses left and right and Euros to them are like gold.
>>53844793
Well, I would need to rent at least 4 at CZK6000. Would be enough to pay for expenses and I'd get the rest of the money transfered.
I guess I'll look into this. Thank you.
>>53843336
>think of some gimmicky game
>the characters you play as are emojis
>?????????
>PROFIT
>>53844853
Do, it's a really good way. Although the prices of the houses are quite expensive, you can just buy one for a certain amount per month, then you rent it as fast as possible, charge the person you rent it to your monthly payment plus some extra. That way you pay off your debt and get some money from the person you're renting the flat/house/whatevs to. After you pay your last payment and the flat is yours, you can just turn down the payments a little bit, so that the tenant is thankful and the flat is more affordable, and you get all of the money! Minus tax, probably.
>>53844853
Oh and if you do, hit me up here (I'll probably be here), and you can rent me a flat for cheap :^)
>>53844483
Even self-tutoring stops you being NEET? I'm doing online courses I guess. Not the flashy YouTube-tier ones though, I'm doing the open courses set up by Harvard and MIT. Do you think it's worth $60-$90 dollars for a certificate from these courses? To be honest, it'd be nice to have something for my CV.
>>53845052
Just do one-off jobs.
>Hi, do you need this done? I can do it quite cheaply
>Sure, why not
>do job
>Dude, you're really cheap, thanks.
>They don't contact you again
>Do 10 of these expendable contracts
>suddenly your CV is flourishing with all sorts of work
I once did a translation of a manual for a game company. They paid me by saying: "Pick a game in this price range". Picked one, never heard from them again. But it's in my CV and I think that now they'd be more impressed than when I was 17.
am i a wagecuck if i'm a lawyer?
or am i self employed?
>>53845111
are you a partner?
if not, wagecuck.
>>53845111
I'd say you're self-employed.
Can you turn down someone with no one telling you not to? Or are you under someone who gives you work?
My two cents: You're a wagecuck if you let yourself be manhandled, abused in the work environment and stuff like that.
>>53845052
Just email the neet council, they said it does as long as course work is involved (im0)
>>53845089
That sounds like a good idea, thanks for that advice. Maybe ill become a translator, yeah...
>>53845199
You can, it's not that difficult. Just remember: It's better to take thoughts and express them than to take words and translate them. Paint pictures and describe those. That way you get the best translations.
>>53845222
True, thats actually something i should work on. I think im too literal
>>53845424
That's why there are universities for this sort of thing. But you can also just go programming for a fee and then go off to somewhere else. Just don't turn up your nose at something, you can always write it in your CV.
What's the most user friendly Distro for someone who wants to try out Linux, but doesn't know where to start?
What can/can't I do on Linux considering I've only ever used Windows? I don't care about games, but can I still do normie stuff like watch Netflix/Hulu/Amazon Prime, use iTunes, watch my Chinese cartoons using VLC?
Sorry if this gets asked often just have an older laptop I want to use to experiment with Linux considering how boasted it is on this board.
>>53845754
>Chinese cartoons
>On an Indian street-pooping board
Ya dun fug'd up.
Any linux distro is nice, I used Ubuntu 9.10 a long time ago with a 256MB RAM laptop, about 1.5 GHz, probably, that shit was almost dead but I got it working again.
>>53845754
Itunes wont work, Netflix only works in google chrome because drm support.
Just install xubuntu
>>53838793
Better spend what little cash you have left on a bottle of astroglide - Dave and George are hungry for some twink scrounger ass.
>>53843987
Mainly regional optimizing which is what everyone does with the apps. For example you don't want a staples ad on a country that doesn't have staples.
