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>you will never live in the age of grey boxes and pixelated
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>you will never live in the age of grey boxes and pixelated icons that depict what they are again
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I'm sure you can find a wm/DE that does all this, even if it is $CURRENT_YEAR.

If not, make one.
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>>53826607
I did and it was glorious.

Top was utter shit that made middle seem stable by comparison though.
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>>53826607
i still have a thinkpad r30 using windows 2000

and i use windowmaker on everything but my chromebook
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But if you use a mac, you still do

Everything is still gray
And the icon design is still pretty dated with few "modern" abstractions

Even the way the UI works has resisted modern standards like ctrl-c-ctrl-v in the file manager
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>>53826607
Good. Only a luddite fucking retard would miss those days.
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>>53826607
>Windows 2000 instead of Windows 98 Comfy Edition
shiggy tbqh
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>tfw using classic theme in Windows 7
>port of XP Paint
All I'm missing is Internet Explorer.
Shame it doesn't work with YouTube.
Fucking Edge.
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>>53827193
Also, Winamp with classic theme.
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>>53827092
>damn those luddites and their preference for desktops that don't slip and slide all over the place and are clear to see what they mean and are made for clarity and precision pointing devices and not app icons and touchscreen UIs even though it's a desktop
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>>53827092
you don't know what a "luddite" is, or that it doesn't apply to aesthetics, period. a luddite is against industry, against the very process that produced this aesthetic and its descendants.

a luddite fears technology that threatens to make their job obsolete or significantly less profitabe

luddites: painters BTFO by neural networks
not luddites: painters who prefer older european styles over jewish "modern" art
luddites: artists and labels BTFO by file sharing who want to use the force of corrupt and unjust laws to punish people for natural and harmless behaviour so they can profit with minimal effort once more
not luddites: high-output artists who publish on the internet and don't give a fuck about copying because their volume of quality work would keep them safe even if copyright only lasted a week
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this wave of threads praising old windows OSes that's flooding /g/, is nothing but M$ shilling for windows 10, by way of making us all drool for a new OS experience
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>>53827253
Slips and slides are a usability improvement, so users don't think they accidentally deleted all the windows and know they changed workspaces, even if they don't know what the buttons they're pressing do.

As for the rest, dude, just buy a mac. Macs still have a retro UI, just with a modern color scheme, because it's barely changed since mac OS was a non-UNIX single tasker that run on tiny screens.
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>>53827353
That's the most far-fetched accusation of shilling I've seen on /g/.

All this is doing is making me want to see where Haiku and Icaros have gone since I checked them out last year.
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>>53827163
9x is utter garbage for everything but games
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Non JS captchas are shit.
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You can use Haiku if you want to.
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>implying

And the resolution is 1366x768 because this is using a spare TV as a monitor and I sit far away. I can watch videos using MPV and I'm posting using SeaMonkey.
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>>53827163
are you fucking retarded?
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>>53827510
>PowerPC
GOAT
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>>53827482
>>53827888
98 is the best OS on a pentium 1
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>>53827905
Here is a horrible photo of her. Loud and probably draws more power in sleep mode then my thinkpad does while on. Still a fun machine.
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>>53827915
that would be OS/2, NT 3.5-4.0 or 95 desu

98 is bloated as fuck
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>>53827510
You could speed it up somewhat by removing that 100MHz DIMM but then you lose 128MB of memory.
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>>53828228
Im going to max out the ram sometime within the next decade anyways.
Upgrades for it arent really high priority.
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>>53827915
you're a fucking dummy. Do you really not know the difference between 2k and 98?
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>>53827510
>>53828017
My nigga
I daily a loaded 500 MHz box occasionally, they're surprisingly good systems.

>>53828228
I don't think Sawtooths could run their RAM at 133 MHz, but maybe I'm wrong.
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>>53828574
looks like the gigabit is 100mhz. http://apple-history.com/g4giga

Ive had 133 in it for forever though.
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>>53826607
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>>53826607
I never thought I would ever miss the appearance of Windows 2000.

Don't get me wrong, it's still too grey and boring and the pixelated icons kinda uninspired but at least it's consistent and sane unlike shit like Windows 10.

I also miss the look of KDE 2. KDE 3 was too glossy, clunky and convoluted and KDE 4 and later is shit and a waste of a perfectly good toolkit like Qt.

LXQT can't come soon enough to bring some sanity and taste to GNU/Linux's DEs.
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>>53826607
why did OSX look so good? holy shit
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>>53828704
whoops i mean os 9 or whatever the fuck its called
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I'm posting from Windows ME. I would upload a photo, but everytime I try, it tells me that the upload failed.
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>>53828574
>I don't think Sawtooths could run their RAM at 133 MHz, but maybe I'm wrong.
You could be right I just assumed 133MHz was stock because there were more of them, I didn't consider the mobo's limits.
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>>53828796
PIC
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Comfy
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CDE plus compton.
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>>53828688
I'd kill for a KDE2 fork for Qt.
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God HD resolution + old OS is awesome.
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>>53828977
Do you know of an easy way to change the fonts without editing every single fonts.alias line?
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>>53827888
If you disagree with the fact that Microsoft Windows 98 is the comfiest OS ever created then I am safe to assume you, anon, are the biggest fool of this board.
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>>53828912
From state farm?
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>>53829073
>Windows 98 is the comfiest OS ever created
>comfiest
What does that even mean?
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>>53829104
Comfortability is a meme.
Have a rare wallpaper.
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>>53829104
> Comfiest
> adj. superlative form of comfy: most comfy.
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>>53829073
Strong opinion there no? I grew up with DOS machines and windows but I think 10 looks best

But nah, I'm just a shill
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>>53829085
no this is patrick
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>>53829022
Nope, that is actually the old school X11 way of font management.
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For all intents and purposed, Windows ME is Windows 98 third edition
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>>53829073
I LIVED through Win98 and it was still shit on design
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>>53829146
Could you upload yours?
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>>53828833
Macs were always pretty behind when it came to RAM speed, felt like they were using PC66/PC100 long after it was old news on other platforms
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Huehue, I couldn't even post this from ie5.
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>>53829179
I swear, technology is the new analog vs digital

technophiles? Idk, still retarded
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>>53829073
Sorry but nope. My first exposure to Windows was 98SE and I don't find 98 comfy at all. Crashy as hell, and they UI's default grey was too dark. 2K was *amazingly* solid (more solid than modern windows IMO) and they changed the UI theme's grey so that it was still functional but not so depressingly dark. Windows 98 reminds me of weeks of permanent overcast skies.
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>>53829073
maybe if "comfy" means getting cucked by the 640k barrier and crashing every ten minutes
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>>53829179
All 9x is shit. Some faggots have virtual copies of it with nothing installed and they think that it's great. If you get a Windows 9X machine, install a shit ton of shit on it, and use it regularly, it is only a matter of time before it starts acting like a bitch
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>>53826607
We're definitely on the decline. :(
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>>53829206
>uses internet explorer 5
Why? Get Opera, it is the latest browser that can be run.
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>>53828017
I threw a couple of those away recently. Well, I did at least take them to our electronic recycle place "Reuseum" so someone probably bought them.
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>>53829179
>I LIVED through Win98
oh wow very impressive
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>>53829272
Fresh install bruh. Still trying to get things working.
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>>53829292
Are you a Boisefag?

I hate that place.
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>>53829310
>still trying to get things working.
>trying to get things working.
>get things working
Comfy
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>>53829328
Yeah, I love it here though.
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>>53829359
Same, I was talking about the Reuseum though, those guys are major jews.
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>>53829379
Oh I see. Hmm, didn't know. Just didn't want to curb the things so found that place. I've been in there a few times but never bought anything.
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Do you surf the digital wave /g/?
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>>53829450
Is that what I know it is it's a Unix system?
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>>53829487
It's IRIX.
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>>53829195
you'll need the following fonts installed this is how they are named in Gentoo
media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi
media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi
media-fonts/font-bh-100dpi
media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi
media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi


link to fonts.alias
http://pastebin.com/raw/qXe9gEdd
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>>53826607
I still do though
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>>53828211
OS/2 is slow on it
NT 3.5-4.0 are slow on it
95 has a really shitty scheduler on it
98 (not SE, early WDM drivers a shit) is runs well on it
>>53828320
2k runs like dogshit on it
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>>53829843
Wallpaper please?
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>>53829952
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>>53830010
Thanks man.
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In a sick and twisted way I miss computers being flaky and shit.
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>>53830393
install arch
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>>53829418
I used to go in there all the time and buy old hardware from their recycle pallets, I don't think they like me all that much since I don't prefer to pay eBay rates for gear the youth ranch will give me for $5 flat.

You're right though, still better to give it a chance than trash it, plus the tax write off is nice.
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>>53830475
or windows
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>>53828975
What processor does yours have? Mine is a P2-366, running Windows ME as it is the only way I've found to get full sound in DOS games.

Ironically it is more stable than under 98 - ME doesn't crash when removing a USB card or using the MIDI synthesiser.

>>53829073
How do you want to crash today?
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goat desktop related
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But I can and I do.
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I miss living in an age where computers were interesting.

I think the 90s were the best age for this, since it didn't have the massive hardware limitations of the 8 bit era but it also wasn't as homogeneous as it is now. It was close, but the early 90s still had a few holdouts.

I just wish someone would try something new even if it was rubbish, because now everything is based on Microsoft conventions. Libre/Openoffice is just Office pre-ribbon and each major DE is built around the Start Menu like Windows.
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>pixelated icons
There's nothing to miss about that.
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>>53829117
I am a fan of her early work.
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>>53831521
You don't miss icons looking like what they are/what they do, rather than minimalist abstract nonsense?
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>>53833388
What the fuck are you talking about? Pixel icons were great because they generally were quite minimal, rather than the high-resolution ultragloss abominations that followed them.
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>>53833441
Please look at the detail that the icons in OP have, then try and defend calling them "minimal." The modern ones don't even have half of that detail.
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>>53833499
They're quite simple renditions, not really that different from the modern Windows icon set except for the latter's smoother transitions between colors.
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>>53827212
Why not just stock foobar
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Eat my ass
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>>53834639
am jelly
what's your setup?
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>>53827071
They have Command + C and Command + V
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>>53831322
Mines a 700mhz pentium 3 i believe
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>>53826607
joke's on you, I use gnome
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>>53829843
Would be 100% perfect if you could also replace tray icons.
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I did though. I'm not too impressed with grey boxes but I REALLY like pixelated icons. They are generally sharper and easier to see than newer hi-res icons. I don't like the gradients and tiny fuzzy detail on hi res icons.
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>>53829843
where2cop icon pack?
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>>53838739
I will do that sometime.

>>53838771
Win95 DLLs
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>>53827071
>Pressing enter on an application tries to rename it instead of open it
Only flaw
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>>53831513
I even miss the mid-2000s when there was shit like UMPCs or Linux on PS3 to keep things interesting on the peripheries.

Even regular computers were slightly more interesting. For a while in the present decade nearly all windows laptops had a design aesthetic best summarized as "Rip off the Macbook pro, cheaply." and while that's going away individual designs are still pretty boring. Apple ditching the white aesthetic for aluminium wholesale, instead of "white = consumer, silver = pro" was a shame too.

And then there's the web, jesus christ the web. Where did it all go wrong?

(n.b. I'm well aware that for every interesting laptop design there was a horrible, ugly one, but i'd take good+bad over mediocre.)
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>>53834886
he's probably using AmigaForever.
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>>53826607
Install Plan 9. Problem solved.
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>Not even using Ecomstation
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>>53826607
R10K master race reporting in.
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>>53826607
Fucking hell, OS9 and pre-Leopard OSX looked like complete dogshit, didn't they?
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>>53838937
>Win95 DLLs
fug
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>>53838970
you have no idea how much that fucks with me. I've never use OS X long enough to try changing the behavior either
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Make Windows Great Again
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>>53828688
Classic theme my man
Not sure if windows 8 / 10 have it, but trust me it's worth staying on 7 for
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>>53829450
>vrml is dead
>flash, silverlight, and other drm plugins are taking over
I really hope webgl and webassembly don't shaft us, there's so much potential
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>>53827071
I feel easier with grey than plain white, like Windows 10 for instance. OSX has been its own thing and it remains that way, but it lacks nowhere near as much functionality as it did in the past. Matter of fact, some functions are there, just with different hotkeys. I'm currently using El Capitan on a PC with a shitty keyboard and I have to do alt + c / alt + v instead to achieve the same thing, but it's there.
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>GUIs back then had to use text and small images due to hardware constraints (even screen res was an issue) so things had to be small to fit enough info on (look at how big things are on an Atari ST)
>this meant that things are super visible and usable at higher resolutions
>but due to the size and nature of CRT monitor sizes at the time you couldn't make the red too high or you wouldn't see anything
>now we have super high def screens
>but the GUI has so many large icons and animation that you have to run nearly everything at full screen
>making modern hardware pointless

I know there's alternatives, but it's the concept that annoys me.
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>>53827915
98 is too bloated for a P1. Runs like a treat on a P2 though, and like greased fucking lightning on a P4.
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>>53831513
I miss the cheerful, eclectic nature software and accessories had. Now everything tries too hard to have a "high end" look or be generic office workplace friendly stuff.
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>>53831513
>>53839082
There's loads of different things today, but it has moved to stuff like ARM boards and intel tablets.
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>>53826607
>>53827163
>>53828574
>>53828673
>>53828975
>>53828990
>>53829014
>>53829022
>>53829073
Enjoy what i have done yesterday.
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>>53826607
I don't care for your sentence structure. I'd move "again" towards the beginning.
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>>53841025
Tablets are boring as fuck
They're all just squares with screens, they don't try anything interesting with button layouts, etc.
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https://archive.org/details/win3_stock

hAVE FUN
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>>53841472
Always had a love of pure text interfaces and what could be done with them.

When I found MinEd it was like someone made a text editor just for me.
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>>53841072
Pls share your magic
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>>53826607
I am pretty darn happy about that. Those OSes sucked.
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>>53841781
Only OS9 sucked (hard)
Win2k was okay
BeOS was amazing
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>>53840145
Windows 7 was the last to use the proper classic theme, I think Win8 had a fucked up version of it with wider close/max/min buttons and no titlebar gradient. Win10 has some flat bullshit that lets you change the colors. The only reason they still have it is for the high contrast themes.
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Whenever I see threads like this on /g/ I always make a point to remember this line from the BBS Documentary.

>There is nothing permanent in computers; everything has a lifecycle. Don't fall in love with any part of it so deeply that you can't make it a comfortable part of your past.

I still miss personal web pages though.
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>>53841472
I didn't have a chance to play around with early computers, so what this screenshot reminds me is Vice City.

shit...early computers were awesome
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>>53841072
> Your PC is Ready for your free upgrade.

Holy shit is that real? If not it's still hilarious.
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>>53842148
>I still miss personal web pages though.
I always want to make one, but I can't get over the feeling it would just be a desperate and strange attempt to claw back the past instead of a real "thing"

It's a shame, because some of the ways I want to lay out my autism are really only suited to personal pages.
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>>53834562
>foobar
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>>53844497
I wouldn't even know where to go to do such a thing now.
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>>53844818
>notepad
>one of the fuckton of the free domains
>000webhost
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>>53844818
>hide a raspi in some accessible building
>private anonymous server without montly fees

you're welcome
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>>53845100
As long as you didn't push your luck with content (in terms of size) there's no reason you couldn't have a scaled down text board of some kind running on a Pi, considering what things like BBS, Usenet and Fidonet ran on.

The only issue would be how shitty ISPs get with you hosting. You're a consumer, not a creator, goy.
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>>53844818
>>53844968
>>53845100
Even if you did, who would read it?

Most of the people doing the reading are on centralized shitholes like Tumblr.
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>>53845645
Who gives a shit if normies don't read it?
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>>53845682
It's not just normies, even if you only went for the /g/ audience you'd need some way for them to find it (and if you post it here you'll just be chased out for shilling.), maybe you could buy 4chan ads - but then who's actually going to want to read your personal site just because you advertised it?

I feel it's unlikely people - certainly not the 'right' people - would stumble onto your site. You've got to make effort to show it to them, and in the case of an imageboard using recluse targeting similar people that becomes very difficult.
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>>53845711
>and if you post it here you'll just be chased out for shilling.
if it's a personal web page with actual content, and no ads and shit, no one would chase you out

I'd probably just piss on you for using a font I don't like, or some other random thing no one takes seriously
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>>53845711
People find sites from all sorts of ways.

A blog I used to follow (until he stopped) was found when I was looking for the torque settings for my bike.

Post an article/journal about whatever and someone will find it somehow, then it will spread.

And even if it doesn't, what does it matter? It might just be a therapeutic exercise, or a constructive habit to get in to.

Like that guy who made Mother who posts an article every day.
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>>53845711
For some reason I'm now wondering if I could buy an ad that calls a specific board shit just for the keks of watching the butthurt.
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>>53845806
what does it cost to run isreal tourism ads on /pol/?
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>>53845868
From $20 for 80k views to $500 for 2.1 million views

Calling a board shit. (and running that ad on only that board) would probably violate rule 4 though.
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>>53845958
rule 4 sounds like it's more against malware and shit like that
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>>53845958
great idea for kickstarter
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>>53828673
that taskbar is goddamn glorious
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>>53846079
it's not a taskbar
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>>53846101
what the fuck ever
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>>53845772
I always wonder if hosting is really expensive in Japan because I always see a lot of their sites being really simplistic and quick to render.

Speaking of...
http://norvig.com/
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>>53846141
https://randomwire.com/why-japanese-web-design-is-so-different/
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>>53826607
My first Windows was 3.11 with DOS 6.22 on a Philips pizzabox PC
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>>53846141
>>53846183
It would be nice to have a settlement between the two.
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>>53846141
It's a combination of their "wait 'til it's broke" attitude toward upgrading old PC equipment (same reason doujin games from 2009 have the option for 640x480 fullscreen and 16-bit color) and a large proportion of people browsing on their phone
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>>53847567
The first one probably isn't a bad thing, and if we were more like that "our" web would probably be as quick and scaled down (in terms of load and resources) as theirs.

Our web is getting too big really.

When you think that BBSs could work on computers made over a 20 year time frame, and how quickly computers now fall behind the internet...It's sad to think about.

My daily driver is a 12 year old Thinkpad, and I can't see that still being able to render pages made in 8 years time.
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>you will never return to 5 years in the past
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>>53848782
That whole "never post your real name!" thing really makes me laugh.

It used to be a big deal was made over this, then almost instantly everyone forgot it and told the internet everything.
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>>53841472
VIDEO KILLED THE RADIO STAR
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>>53841807
BeOS was awesome

Haiku is coming along nicely though, a nightly build the other day and they even have WiFi support now.
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>what is stock openbox
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>>53849071
That blew my fucking mind when it detected my wifi and then connected.

I just wish they'd have a better web browser, as that's all that's keeping it from being ready for a lot of people.

That and an office suite, but they're finally making progress.
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