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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/UtEixUJD (embed)
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
I was hoping to get a tablet computer with stylus and came up on a $54 total HP Elitebook 2740p. Just needs basic stuff like a HDD, HDD cover, power supply, etc.
It's kinda nice that it is an i5 as well rather than a Core Duo for the price.
Good deal?
>>53800658
>HP Elitebook 2740p
How do you deal with the lack of dedicated pointing stick middle button?
>>53800851
Definitely would prefer a ThinkPad, but budget constraints.
>>53800851
>pointing stick middle button
Actually, it looks like this model does have that.
So is your /g/uys opinion of Lubuntu on a T420?
I just installed it after trying out Manjaro for a month on it. It was a pretty nice go, but my familiarity with debian and ubuntu flavors had me install Lubuntu (was running Kubuntu). Though, if I ever get around to getting a new battery for my Asus 1015PEM eeepc, I'll very likely install Manjaro on it.
So I just traded a first generation ipad mini for a t400, problem is the hdd only has 20 gigs after installing windows 10, should I replace the hard drive or just get a external? I was thinking of keeping most of my shit on a sd card and the rest in a external but I'd rather had a bigger hard drive and eventually a external.
>>53801294
looks like your resolution is fucked up bro
>>53801321
It's connected through a vga to my tv so that's why it looks funky.
>>53801294
>traded a first generation ipad mini for a t400
Smart man, I'd suggest getting either a 128GB SSD or a 256GB for only a little more.
>>53799413
>>53799785
I could've sworn the 745s were SFF, maybe they come in two types. I would go and check what I have again, but they're burried under boxes and other shit.
>>53799925
I've had that one for years, and yeah it's incredibly useful.
I wish I had a sort of hub, that I could connect 3 or 4 different hard drives to. I don't mean a NAS, I mean something hot swappable with the same agility.
My dock does have e-sata on the back, maybe such a thing exists.
>>53800610
is there any way i can tell whether or not a t420 has the discrete GPU just from a screenshot of the BIOS menu?
My Helix is developing new problems on top of problems it had from when I got it, but at one point I opened up the computer so I could do a makeshift repair on the audio jack since it got a crack from the computer falling a short distance and landing audio-connection first.
So is my warranty still valid?
By the way, I made sure that I didn't open it too wide, because I noticed there were things that would disconnect if I did so, which possibly could have been things for telling if the computer had been opened previously.
>>53801379
>>53801294
256gb ssd is mart buy. 128s are 40 bucks in most cases, but the 256 is just 20 dollars more. I recommend the Arc 100, from OCZ. Decent read/write, good IOPS, and MLC.
>>53801382
They made a slim desktop, SFF, and even a USFF so small, it utilizes an external PSU.
>>53801384
nevermind, i found it out by the machine type model... its a 1366x768 res t420 with integrated graphics... no thanks
>>53801420
That's cozy, nothing better then kicking it on the couch with a business laptop next to a window while it rains.
>>53801379
That's a pretty small amount imo. I can get 128 from a sd card.
>>53801401
76 bucks on amazon for not even 500 gigs. I'm just using it to store movies I doubt I need anything that nice.
New T560 or Dell XPS 15? For work mainly.
>>53801537
I mean if your boot drive isn't an SSD then the conversation is moot.
>>53801805
I don't have a boot drive.
What's the smartphone equivalent of the thinkpad?
>>53802026
Old Nokia candybars
>>53801420
welcome back, round touchpad toughbook anon
>>53801897
it means the drive you store the os on
>Budget: ~$900
What's a good laptop for video editing? Things like a good screen, dGPU and portability/battery life are pretty important to me.
W520/30 have the power but are too bulky to carry around and have shit battery, W550s looks like a good in-between. Latitudes seem to have the best screens but I can't find one with a decent dGPU
>inb4 rMBP
appleshills need not apply
What screen is the best in x200-x200s-x201 series?
1280x800 or 1440x900?
>>53802571
The TNs are both awful, but you can get either slightly better Samsung pva or even AFFS (IPS) in the 1280x800.
Just make sure you do your research, there is Led and ccfl back lighting, the resolutions have different lids etc.
>>53801611
>>53802469
xps 15
>>53801294
install gentoo
How slow is the x130/120? I really want a tiny backpack think pad but I'm worried it's going to be crippled by that shitty cpu.
>>53802754
>AMD E-300 APU
617 passmark points
>Intel Core 2 Duo P8600
1556 passmark points
Get an x200, it's way better and cheaper.
>>53800610
I just bought a elite book 8440p yesterday for $314. Came with 4gb ram and a 120gb Kingston hyperx drive. Couldn't be happier. Installing lubuntu as we speak.
>>53802676
>model with dGPU starts at $1200
>also an i5
Thinking waiting for a good ebay offer, any other models to look at?
Guys, what is the average battery life you get on t420 with 6 cell battery?
Usecase is mostly interwebs and office.
>I know there are plenty of reviews, but theirs 6-7 hours looks bullshit.
>>53803820
1 hour per cell is a fairly decent guesstimate in general as long as you don't MAXBRIGHTNESS and at least have some modest power savings
>>53801420
Is the round touchpad comfortable to use? I've always wondered.
>>53801611
t560
nothing compares to the T series.
Is there anything similar to x220 (keyboard, portability, battery life) with screen bigger than 1366x786?
>>53804296
Panasonic Let's Note CF-MX5. 12.5", long battery life with a removable battery, and 16:10 (1920x1200). Very hefty price tag on Rakuten though.
>>53804296
1366x768 is a tight res for a 12.5 incher, I think it would be eye straining to have something like 1600x900 on that small a display, let alone 1080.
>>53804414
>Mandy York
wtf is with these names?
>>53804430
the "4google+" april fools shit
>>53804430
It's april 1st, nvm guys i'm being a newfag.
>>53802026
Nexus 5, Blackberry Priv
>>53804404
Not that anon, just curious, but why would you recommend this over, say, an X260? Also the panasonic looks dated as fuck.
Where to cop a decent new battery for my T420?
Don't know who to trust
>>53803820
>>53804044
Depends on what you're doing on it. If you're kicking the shit out of the CPU the whole time, you'll get a lot less than an hour per cell.
can you do the 1080p screen swap on the x240s?
>>53806362
x240* plural.
>>53805564
>LOOKS dated as fuck
Perhaps you would prefer Friendly Apple general
>>>/g/fag/
>>53806480
ThinkPad design was due to Richard Sapper, it's a timeless design that hasn't really been fucked with. Even today it holds up.
The Panasonic is clearly the design of Japanese engineers - functional, but not as timeless as ThinkPad.
The only other manufacturer who has stayed relatively consistent with their design is Apple, and even then, it's only since 2008 with the unibody Macs.
>>53800851
It's the Dell's 12 inchers that do no have the clitmouse
>>53802469
workstations are generally supposed to remain plugged in where ever you take them. On my w520, the power saver profile nets 3.5-4 hours on a 6 cell battery.
>>53801073
im using lubuntu on my t420, so of course i like it. although now that canonnical are partnering up with microshit, im fucking off and moving on to another distro
>>53807035
Fedora 23 on my T420 is comfy as fuck
Is it possible and how to to disassemble standard thinkpad battery? 6 or 9-cell for example, replace all 18650 cells and give it a go.
>>53804044
>>53806198
Right now I have 36% charge and Windblows 10 power indicator estimates that it will last for 1:06 hr.
This is with all power saving options on and 20% brightness.
I got similar results when running Loonix.
>>53805894
Good question, I need one for a t400
>>53807932
The only things running is firefox and telegram.
>>53802747
I want to do this but I don't have the time to learn how to use it. When I get home from work I just want to usually netflix.
I'm thinking eventually I'll get a cheap one to practice it on
>>53808186
A T400 with that small of a HDD is already a cheap practice thinkpad for Linux
>these trips
Did I miss something?
>>53808312
The date
>>53808322
Right you are.
>>53808288
I know but currently it's my only laptop/pc and I don't want to go back to watching shit on my phone.
>>53802783
You mean AMD E-350, familia.
Also HD6310 is very nice for light mobile gayming. It can handle cs:go at very playable framerate. Also x200 is too fucking old.
>>53800610
oh oh in your bullet points you forgot to mention
>Used machines are filled with dead bedbugs and their eggs waiting to hatch
>Laptop chassis has been ejacluated upon literally hundreds of times as well as never handled without greasy cheeto stained fingers.
sounds great!
>>53808514
>not buying exclusively from normies in upper class neighborhoods
>>53807932
Is it a new battery? I'm curious what the designed vs charged specs are.
>>53808461
I had a laptop with E350.
It was utter shit. Yeah, graphics performance is nice but that's about it. It was hot as hell and CPU performance was total shit. Also, GPU drivers are hit or miss. Sometimes I got less fps in some games compared to C-50 machine, which is significantly less powerful.
>>53808593
Well, cycle count is 360
designed is 56.16 Wh
charged is 41.22 Wh
T410 owners using Linux:
Does your audio mute LED work? I know mine is technically working since it flashes at startup, but it doesn't turn itself on when I change audio levels. The microphone one works. What could be the cause of this?
Is the x200t 64bit or 32?
Debating to give it 4gb RAM or 8.
>>53808742
t420 here, mine is the opposite. iirc its because whatever controls the keyboard can only map so any keys or something.
What's the best way to clean the speaker grill on my T420??
>>53808973
silly putty, horse semen, the blood from a dying infant, and cherry pepsi
>>53808992
Thanks Thomas
Why is x220 so much shilled when x230 is just as cheap nowadays usually comes with 8 gb + refurbished has a better processor also has Intel graphics 4000 instead of 3000 which is a huge boost.. and because it's a 2012 processor Intel offer full driver support for windows 10.
>>53809029
Because it isn't just as cheap. It averages 50-75% more expensive
>>53809029
muh keyboard
>>53809029
>support for windows 10
>this is supposed to be a positive
jesus fucking christ
>>53809070
Yes because much more battery life and faster computing.
>>53809092
The spyware's so much better than previous versions, too.
>>53809047
I checked amazon uk and a normal hdd 8gb model is a little over a 4gb x220 also with hdd.
The ssd x230 model indeed comes as 40 % more expensive but in the same time it's cheaper than buying a separate ssd.
>>53809110
Connecting to internet already compromises you so doesn't matter at all.
>>53808648
So 73% capacity is the best you can expect which, assuming 1hr per cell should net you slightly over 4hr, give or take.
So if you're at 36% now and have a little over an hour left, that's close to par.
An hour per cell is a slight overestimate.
>>53808962
Well that sucks.
How to clean t420 ples
Is the X1 Carbon worth the money?
>>53809314
You need some marijuana extract to rub it on.
Opinions about the X220t/X230t?
>>53809526
If you real get the x220. If yousa cuck get the x330
It's as simple as that
>>53809539
Do both of them have the shitty screen issues with the IPS panel?
>>53809577
Yeah, but don't be a resolution cuck. 1336x768 is a nostalgic resolution
Need some help:
I have R61 and HP Elitebook 8730w. I want to install loonix on both machines. Wat do?
Wine is a must.
>>53809663
Install Arch Linux
installed xubuntu on my msata ssd... Literally instant boot on a t420. fucking insane.
>>53809539
What the fuck does this post mean?
>>53809699
fuck off
>>53809896
it means fuck all, just like every post here
Is there even a laptop with a great screen that'll last 5 years? I'm upgrading so I can do my art/photo-editing on the go
rMBP are a no-go because Adobe suite and Dell support is the worst shit where I live so no XPS either. Been looking at ZbookG2 w/DC and maybe T450s
I have an X220, a spare 660ti, spare psu, and spare desktop HDD
I wanna get one of those mini docks so i can drop my laptop on the desk at home and have my mouse, keyboard and monitors ready to work, with extra hard drives in the mini dock too.
Now how do I go about gettin my 660ti to work on the laptop? I'll buy/make a case later, for now I just need the part(s). I think there's some forum somewhere with guides and there's some pe4l thing but there were variations and I dont know what the best/latest one to get is.
Can anybody link me some guides and what shit I need to buy
>>53810652
>5 display connectors when it is for a laptop that can only run 2 displays
>>53810711
Options nigga, options
Also I believe the gpu T420 models can have 3 monitors
>>53810731
Apparently its 4 (including the laptop display itself). Makes me wish i had optimus. https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/ht037605
When I purchased my T420, the trackpad was kind of grimey. Since I was using the Trackpoint, I didn't think much of it.
After getting annoyed at looking at it, I decided to do something. I just so happened to have some extra 3M carbon fiber vinyl and used that to cover the surface. The response is just as good as it was before.
Amazon has some alternatives in case you guys are interested... http://www.amazon.com/SimCarbon-Carbon-Fiber-Vinyl-BLACK/dp/B0059XCVVO/ref=pd_sim_263_12?ie=UTF8&dpID=51s4jRfsI7L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0CTA38MFJVRMTMNV8GA7
I only used it on the trackpad but you could use it on the rest of the latptop.
>>53811091
Its just a sticker anyways. they go for like $7 for a legit one on ebay iirc.
>>53811261
Yea, but why pay $7 for a sticker when you can basically just get a roll that has enough for 20+ for the same price? All you gotta do is cut it yourself.
I just used the old one as a template and made a few extra ones.
>>53810652
About to order the PE4C V3.0 for my X220 and while researching I found xsauce's youtube channel.
Which I didn't know existed.
And I now know what he looks like.
Never change, /g/, never change
If you install anything other than Arch Linux you are a tech illiterate retard and should kill yourself.
>>53811464
>implying Arch Linux installation is logical
kek
Does anyone has experience with a usb 3.0 ExpressCard on the T420 or any older ThinkPad? Any recommended models?
>>53811464
But arch is a retard OS
Install slackware
>>53809029
The Windows 10 support is kind of meaningless for a lot of people here. I've actually "upgraded" 4 of my computers to Win 10 and within a few months I either reverted back to Win 7 or installed Xubuntu. Fucking hate the "new" Windows. I don't know what the fuck I'm going to do come 2020.
>>53811564
reported to work:
Aamzon GMYLE® ExpressCard 34mm to USB 3.0 Adapter (Dual Port)
>>53812290
thanks m8
>>53809392
decide yourself
>>53808514
> not buying from enterprise lots with machines exclusively used in offices
>>53809849
Loved Xubuntu on mine except for the fucking screen tear.
>>53812951
dump xfwm4, get compton
Compton will make use of opengl backend and get rid of your tearing issue. Just make sure it's configured to use it, by default I don't think it does.
>>53813211
Im already on Fedora 23 which I am enjoying a lot, but I will do this to my X301
>>53800610
T410 with i5-520M, 4GB of ram and an 80GB ssd for 120 euros. Should I?
>>53813297
Scratch that, it's closer to 150.
Thinking of selling my PC (R9 390, i5-6600K etc) to buy a used T420, and spend rest of money for ham radio // RC hobby gear. Should i? Hoping this act would end my gayming addiction. Serious btw
>>53801294
You installed Windows 10? Fucking disgusting. Install libreboot and Gentoo right away you degenerate.
>>53813421
>inb4 you start playing turn based RPGs with a Siberian and an Australian over ham freq
I don't think the FCC explicitly forbids this, do they?
>>53803820
I get 3 hours on my fairly old battery
>>53808514
+1
>buying from /g/tards
>>53810523
Notebookcheck reviews the laptops screen with a colorimeter, you can check for contrast and gamut coverage
>>53800610
just bought these:
> E6430
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Latitude-E6430-Intel-Core-i5-3320M-2-60GHz-4GB-320GB-HDD-Laptop-V4451-/231899020875?hash=item35fe423e4b:g:pSQAAOSwGYVW~sR5
> PR03X Dock
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Latitude-E-Serie-PR03X-Docking-Station-Port-E6330-E6400-E6410-E6420-E6430-/231722861930?hash=item35f3c2456a:g:yxMAAOSw5VFWIWix
How'd I do /g/?
Upside:
> $135 -- great price for a E6430 and lots of room to buy better parts
Downside:
> No battery
> 1366x768
> 4gb ram
> No ssd
Likely purchases:
> 240GB SSD ~$60
> 16GB 1600MHz 2x8 kit. ~$60
> 9 Cell battery ~$75
> 1600x900 HD+ Screen ~$100
thoughts?
>>53813421
Definitely do it. And when you do, I look forward to working you.
>>53813658
>colorimeter
they use a spectrophotometer(i1 pro) which is much more accurate than a colorimeter.
The good thing is that they offer ICC profiles for download to correct your screen if you have the same model they tested.
>>53813577
>muh freedumz
only autistic people care if the BIOS/UEFI is sending their keystrokes to some chinese/american datacenter.
>>53813579
as long as >>53813421 has a license, it shouldn't be a problem
>tfw overpayed for an X220 ($250) out of emergency need
>tfw it's in mint condition
Fuck, I am in love. Just had some issues with my X200t, and was going on a trip and needed a new thinkpad ASAP.
Went to bestbuy but they only had a couple of very shitty thinkpads with awful reviews, starting around $900.
>>53813905
kek'd at the name
>>53813874
It's fucking absurd, but your opinion, a random one, anonymous one, over some fucking chinese imageboard over the internet actually made me lean towards selling my PC and using the money more wisely.
Thank you, i'll just have to think this a bit more tomorrow. 73's
>>53813975
14/88
>How's the weather?
>Love and kisses.
>>53813975
:')
Seriously though, I did this same exact thing and you'll never look back.
I had a decent computer two years back-- i7, 560GTX. Played videogames like crazy, and it got in the way of school and social events and so on.
Then my brother asked if he could use my videocard for some rainbow tables, and with quitting video games in mind, I gave it to him. Sold the rest of the machine, and programming, exercise, and friends took up the void.
Make sure that you have something that you can really dig into, though. You'll regret it if you find yourself replacing gaming with shitposting.
>>53813577
> libreboot + gentoo
> thinking gentoo is FSF approved
lel
Is there any technical harm in swapping the actual drives in the main bay and the UltraBay?
I currently have my SSD in the main bay and the HDD in the UltraBay, but I think it may be better off other way around, so I want to make sure it's feasable beforehand
>>53814420
Should be fine.
You might have issue with boot order, but thats easily fixed in the bios.
>>53814317
Thanks man. I've been sitting here stairing at your post thinking i'm in the exact same situation. Gayming getting in the way of life, in general. I've enjoyed gayming so far, but i feel like it's taking way too much time from my life.
I'll really have to concider buying a laptop to satisfy my "IT needs", and to block me from constant gayming. So, to keep on the topic:
What thinkpad would someone recommend to replace my desktop PC? budget is high, can go as high as 600$, but prefer to keep it low. Would like the option of using a dock to keep using my dual monitor setup & mechanical keyboard & my favourite mouse.
>>53814567
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430-14-Laptop-PC-i5-3320M-240GB-SSD-HDD-8GB-RAM-Windows-7-/191741169768?hash=item2ca4aa1068:g:5UAAAOSwys5WWKZY
+
http://www.ebay.com/itm/4337-Thinkpad-Mini-Dock-Series-Type-3-for-T420s-T430-T520-Lenovo-IBM-/262146440415?hash=item3d09253cdf:g:s-IAAOSwLzdWSW~C
$450 total
>>53814776
shit, $360 total, sorry.
Use the other $240 on 2 24" IPS monitors.
>>53814420
>I currently have my SSD in the main bay and the HDD in the UltraBay, but I think it may be better off other way around, so I want to make sure it's feasable beforehand
By what logic? You're running your OS on the SSD, right? The only upside the Ultrabay has over the main bay is that it's hotswappable, and you wouldn't be able to use that if you had your OS drive in there.
Snagged this just now, /g/uys. Used the corporate code you guys offered in the OP. I'm hoping it will make me happier than the T560 would have. The 6200U/DDR3/HD520 bugged the hell out of me. Now I've got a 6700HQ, 8GB DDR4 and a quadro dGPU. Also got extended accidental damage protection just in case.
Yeah I got cucked into buying an expensive new machine but that's okay. I needed some extra power in a super portable package.
>>53814873
I was thinking more that the main bay has that hard drive protection thing, but that's completely useless with an SSD since they're resistant to shock for the most part
>>53808742
T420 here, just got mine today and everything works fine w/ openSUSE 42.1.
Literally just took the Samsung mSATA SSD and 4GB stick of RAM out of my Ideapad Yoga 11S and put it in my ThinkPad. I was surprised at how painless the process was.
My reason for going from an 'ultrabook' to the T420 was because of the durability, simplicity, and the ability to swap out parts with ease. Nice keyboard is just an added bonus.
Got mine for $200 off of newegg, would highly recommend to anyone who's looking for a T420. Came in good condition. They put some sort of textured black decal over the lid (to presumably cover up scratches or protect it), but it looks nice and matches the laptop so I don't see any reason to take it off.
Here's the link for anyone interested:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834319464
Are thinkpaddepot and arrowdirect decent places to order from? I need be at least somewhat sure it wont have a crippling hardware problem, I live outside the US and it would be a pain to send it back.
Is it normal for the rubber bumpers for the caddy to smell bad? I ordered new ones because I assumed that they smelled the way they smell because the previous owner smoked pot, but the "new" ones smell the same.
>>53815319
Yeah. Mine smell weird too.
>>53815941
I guess I can stop worrying about it now that I know that it's normal. I'm sure I won't notice it when it's in the laptop, anyway. I wonder why they smell, though.
>>53813854
bumping, anyone have comments on if this was a deal or not?
I think I've decided on what thinkpad I want, x230
What's the going price for them these days?
>>53813854
>>53816235
Not too many latitude fags in the thread, I am one though and that's a pretty good deal.
RAM is cheap and I'd be shocked if you actually had to pay that much for a 9 cell. I was looking at some on ebay for 26 bucks the other day.
You should research and see if you can't stick an msata drive into the wwan port, my e6440 allows you to use the wwan port as a bootable ssd.
Also you should check to see if it's eDP or LVDS, because if it's eDP you can definitely get a 1080p screen for it. My e6440 has a eDP and this 1080p IPS panel is godly.
Then again, it was only the later versions of the e6440 that had eDP, so yours having ivy bridge in it, it's unlikely it has eDP, but you can find out by researching part numbers.
Cheers, welcome to the latitude club,
Man with two T400's here with an update. Two units both with 2.3 GHz Core 2, 4 GB RAM, and dat 900p screen. Currently moving the broken one into a new body.
Why the fuck are there 5 different types of (well documented) screws?
>>53817971
The concept that thinkpads are god tier laptops is just a meme.
If you want an actual god tier laptop, get a Latitude or Precision.
>tfw snagged a very lightly used t430 out of my companies recycling bin
>tfw it works fine
it was a good day lads
Is there a not-shitty way to install a modded BIOS on a linux-running Thinkpad?
I just upgraded from an X300 to an X301, but it didn't come with a primary drive, and I'd rather not have to image+install windows+restore my drive.
I tried WinToUSB, but the resulting OS is slow as hell and doesn't even let me log in.
The modded BIOS doesn't have an ISO version available. Does it work to take the official BIOS ISO and swap the ROM with the modded one?
>>53816709
>blogpost incoming
Just because I feel like talking about it, I had all Latitudes when I worked at a particular company a few years ago. We had all Dell workstations for the stationary folks and the field guys like me had laptops. I had a D810 which was outstanding for its time. 16:10 high res screen looked great and had great contrast and brightness. It was very capable and took everything I threw at it. Eventually it got relegated to my personal laptop when the docking port died and I ran it as my "server" for a year or so. It was my first foray into linux and ran Mint 13 beautifully. To this day it's still doing duty as my father in law's (lubuntu) HTPC for low-res shit I download for him.
>>53814876
>windows 10 home
>not 7 or 10 pro
but... why????
>>53814876
>>53818398
also
>depot warranty
onsite warranty costs a little more but you don't have to send the computer, Lenovo sends a technician to your home or office to perform repairs.
>>53818199
>>53817977
>>53816709
Thanks for the replies guys. I've been a Thinkpad owner for the over a decade but I think it's time to make a switch-- these laptops aren't the same anymore and my X200's performance is getting in the way of work.
Looking forward to giving Dell a shot. Hopefully with the trackpoint and keyboard I'll feel right at home.
With regards to display upgrading, I've looked into it and the best I can do is a WXGA++ TN display (1600x900), for exactly the reason you stated: LVDS.
That's definitely the most disappointig part of this transition. I was hoping I could score a 1080p IPS display with my next laptop, but the timing and pricing made me put that aside. It's going to suck to have to deal with the 1366x768 res. until I snag a better display off ebay, though. :\
Still, an i5, 16gb ram, ssd, it's going to be nice to join the modern computing world again.
This thing looks so fucking cool. Look at how thin these bezels are.
I wish there was a way that I could take out all of the guts and replace it with new hardware, but keep the keyboard and put a higher resolution screen.
>>53819066
There is if you have the resources. It's how the chinese have been making those X61 and T4x mods with modern i7s. A bit hard to get ahold of
>>53819111
But with that stock t30 mobo? I was thinking, like total internals swap with a similarly sized laptop with a better screen.
I assume anything is possible with micro soldering
>>53819066
Yeah, I'd really like to do the same with my T420.
And possibly a 16:10 or 3:2 display.
But ain't gonna have one.
>>53819066
T60 has similarly thin bezels and it can be loaded with up to a penryn core 2 duo and a 1600x1200 IPS screen. Best you can do short of the crazy custom motherboards the chinks make.
>>53819192
I bet if I found a 14 inch tablet with a 4:3 ratio screen I could fit it in the top part alone. But that'd still leave us with figuring out how to get the keyboard and ports to work
>>53819255
And just put a fucking huge battery in the bottom part.
>>53803820
My gf's T420 lasts about 6 hours with the original 9 cell it came with.
>>53819033
You'll get used to the 900p screen. Get a good one and it'll be alright.
Just distract yourself with all the cool shit you can do with your modular bay, like an extra 3 cell battery or hard drive. Ordered two Modular hdd odd cadys for maximum backup portibility.
Also sweet fuckin christ, you can easily upgrade the cpu to a 3720qm for about 150 and double your performance. That's desktop replacement tier cpu power.
Sadly, it looks like your WWAN slot cannot double as an mSATA port, I was just reading on the dell forums about it, guess that was an option they added starting with the **40 series, I've got a friend with a 5520 that has the same problem.
Oh well, with the modular bay, you can carry extra hard drives and swap them out as needed. Just get a 500gb ssd for the main sata bay or something.
That's a real shame, one of the neat features I have on my e6440 is RAID0 option between the mSATA bay and the HDD bay itself, where you could put an mSATA to 2.5" sata adapter, and RAID the two together for 1GB/s read/write speeds. (The e6440 owners thread on tech inferno has detailed information on how to do this, so I am pretty sure it's possible.)
>>53804071
Yes, it's actually very nice for scrolling thru webpages. It makes way more sense than the scroll section on a square pad.
Also, thin cast magnesium feels and acts a lot like painted ABS plastic. You can tell the difference by disinfecting the surface and licking it. Mg tastes like metal. Plastic tastes like despair.
>>53819301
you're making me wish i shelled out the extra $100-$200 for an E6440. :(
That's pretty sweet about the 3720qm, I'm not going to do it right away but that could help me sqeeze a couple more years out of it. Good to know.
I'm reading on notebookreview forums that people used non-dell displays in the 6420 and that the 6430 can do the same, so I'm hopeful that I'll find a decent-enough display for cheap.
>>53819314
That's fuckin awesome, rollin like a cop.
>>53819341
Well if that e6430 is returnable, it might be worth it, alternatively, you could throw some spare parts into it when you get it and just resell it.
As for the display, Yes, that's one thing Dell is good about I'm finding, is interchangeability on their generic parts, like screens.
130 bucks for an e6430 isn't bad. I guess you'd have to really be honest with yourself about how important the feature difference is. Before using it, I really didn't think I'd care about the 1080p screen but jesus was I wrong.
I dunno man, it's definitely a project top, but if you really think you'd be happier, return it and shell out the extra dosh. I think it's worth it, but that's me.
The CPU upgrade path on the e6440 is a little trickier due to thermal headroom, and the "Cheaper" quad core i7's don't have essential shit like vt-d. But I have a desktop if I need perofrmance, maybe you don't, so the easier/cheaper upgrade path on the CPU socket might be worth it, enough at least, in exchange for having no mSATA and a 900p screen.
It's all relative. I did a lot of research before I bought the e6440 and I still felt a little impulsive when I bought it.
Laptobs r hard :DDDDDDD
>>53811814
Slackware would be fantastic if it weren't such a pain in the ass to maintain.
Any experiences with the Precision line up, namely the new 5510? It looks so fucking sexy man but at the same time it's really expensive
Fuuuuuu…
It didnt make it before the weekend. Oh well, gotta be productive and social then, I guess.
what would be the best way to utilize a thinkpad advanced dock? I found one at a recycler, but I haven't been able to get it to work
>>53820430
Utilizing as in
>getting that broken thing to work
or as in
>actually finding some use for the e-waste I dragged home
?
If the first:
Check the hardware manual for it, and take it apart, to see if something obvious is broken.
if the second:
Well, at first, you need the matching thinkpad for it. Not every TP fits every dock, and there are also differences between the generations.
If that is covered, the classic use case would be to leave the dock at your desk at work, with your large monitor(s) and all kinds of periphery plugged into the dock (mouse, kb, printer, external HDD's, speakers, USB-controlled dildo, coffee heater…), so that you can easily add and remove your thinkpad that's controlling all of that, without having to unplug dozends of cables.
>>53820473
it's a shame there's no modern single slot 75w gpu's anymore
why can't I get a 950 in that configuration/
>>53820522
Cant you just feed the GPU with an additional power supply outside of the dock? The cable should be small enough to cram it through some opening. Or just remove the whole enclosre to have more space fora larger card. Or is there also some whitelist?
>>53820670
it seems like any gpu will work, but a lot of the info I've found on it comes from many years ago
>>53818398
Both of those options are extra. Not to mention win 7 option is through downgrade from win 10 so the "botnet" is already there. Besides, I'm going to college. I don't have time for anything that could jeopardize my education. I can't fiddle with my OS last second because something broke. I'll have arch on an external hard drive for home use but everything else will be done on SSD on Windows 10. Also forgot to mention I'm buying an SSD for the laptop too.
yay or nay?
>>53800610
What's the next best free-as-in-freedom laptop apart from thinkpads?
>>53822248
Dell Latitudes are pretty cool, you don't even have to mod them to put other wifi adapters in.
>>53822223
>one off
would fuck sensually/10
>>53822270
would you?
>>53822475
>HDD and ultrabay on the same side
Very cool system there.
>>53822505
Oh wait, it's docked, still a cool retro X series.
>>53812823
which site is that?
>>53822528
my current x230 has also ssd and ultrabay hdd on the same side
I gave this old x61 in T7300+4GB+60GB SSD+750GB HDD config to my mom. She uses this even today.
Also I'm thinking of getting an i7 x201 with ultrabase and 2x2TB samshit HDDs + 8GB bootdrive integrated into the ultrabase. I could use it as a mobile server.
>>53822853
That sounds cool.
>tfw no getac x500 server.
looking at getting a laptop that can handle gaming and isn't a piece of shit
m6600 or 8760w?
>>53823355
t530
>>53821734
The 7/10 pro options also means they install a different board with the proper licensing tables(SLIC) for the pro editions. So you can perform clean installations of 7 or 10 pro without activation issues.
And debotnetting 7 is far easier than 10
>>53823382
>t530
isn't it shit?
>>53822532
Lenovo's site. I configured a X1 system to show a proper configuration.(note the W7 pro and 3y onsite)
>>53823433
No?
Just get the highest GPU model available.
>>53823355
what ever is cheaper, both good machines
>>53823433
Not if it's his first ThinkPad.
>>53823408
Well I certainly fucked up not getting 10 pro. Maybe it's not too late.
>>53823450
And yet it'll be shit against mobile workstations with full sized MXM cards.
>>53823450
if you want to run games at bare minimum settings sure
>>53823490
then get x230 + eGPU, nigger faggot.
Or t430 with quad core CPU if you prefer high-ultra settings in all gaymes
also get back to >>>/v/ cunt
>>53812823
>>53823440
You fucking suck at configuring machines.
>>53823528
>getting super salty when called out on offering shit purchasing advice
>>53823408
>>53823466
I sent them an email asking if I could change to 10 Pro. I didn't feel like the hassle of cancelling and reordering was worth it since my card was already charged the ~1400.
Is Windows 10 pro harder to install? What's the real difference? Why couldn't I buy the upgrade to pro?
>>53823544
>talking about gayming on /g/
>>>/v/
>>53823528
>wanting was is basically a 1 kilo dongle just for playing games when you can get a laptop with a decent gpu
>>53823581
>powerful hardware = gaming
>>53823603
yes, mobile GPUs can only be used in gayming, nothing more.
>>53823587
You don't need a mobile gayming machine.
>>53823355
>gaming
>>53823624
>You don't need a mobile gayming machine.>>
so you want me to lug around a desktop when LAN parties happen or I go on vacation?
that's just pants on head retarded
T420 for £165 ($235) off gumtree. Slotted an extra 4gb of ram in from my old laptop.
i7-2620m 2.7-3.4 GHz turbo
8gb DDR3
HD+ Display (1600x900)
500GB Hard drive
Original 9 cell + charger included
How did I do /g/?
>>53823654
Vacations are supposed to be you enjoying where you are going. not playing vidya in the hotel m8.
>>53823715
this
>>53823654
You're just an underaged little faggot. Get out
>>53823714
Decent, what age you going to use the T420 for?
>>53823763
What do you mean? How old am I?
>>53823633
>multi-billion dollar industry that spurs constant performance increases in all aspects of PC hardware
>just for kids
Pick one, fuccboi.
>T420 should be arriving today
>It's been delivered the courier
>It's marked as out for delivery
>It's late in the day
>If they can't deliver it today it'll be monday before I get it
why are postal services so useless
>>53823777
You're 16 at most
>>53823809
Explain why.
>>53823777
Whoops I meant what are you using it for?
>>53823786
Wait until Monday I guess.
>>53823654
>>53823715
This
You're suppose to have an ITX/mATX PC if you frequent LAN Parties. Which I'm sure you likely don't, you're just using it as an excuse to justify why you need a mobile gaming machine.
Who the fuck cares. You can't mention video games on /g/ anymore it's taboo considered by the autists that lurk this place. Stick to the shadows, kid. Reach out and mention high performance for rendering videos and digital media on the go. Lots of youtubers need to make and post videos without their home PC's.
>>53823837
Mostly browsing, programming potentially in the future but I don't game heavily on this laptop. Plan on adding an SSD soon.
>>53823786
>why are postal services so useless
because they dont care about user satisfaction much. If its cheaper, its going to happen.
Some of my expeiences:
>In town on other side of state, marked as out for delivery
>sits in one place for a week, next scan is it being delivered
>door to the house open, i go to take a piss and come back to a "we tried to deliver" sticky on the screen door, i didnt even hear the fucker.
>>53823879
Get a dock anon. SSD is a great idea. just got a msata 850 EVO for mine.
>>53823888
I have packages delivered to work. I provide IT support to a distribution center for a Big Pharma company. We have FedEx and UPS trucks rolling in and out erry day all day. I usually get my packages a day or two quicker than the published number of transit days on ground shipments, so I rarely upgrade to second-day or next-day. One of the few perks of my horrible job.
>>53823911
What are the advantages of using a dock? 90% of the time spent on this laptop is on a bed or couch which is the reason I went for a durable, tough thinkpad. I do totally agree with getting an SSD though.
>>53823962
The advantage is that i can just pop off the laptop instead of unplugging everything if i want to watch a movie in bed (though i dont have a second charger yet). That and it looks cleaner in /bst/ threads. If you just use it wherever and dont have a set area where you use it, a dock probably isnt for you though. They are cheap (~$20) though so its not like its a big investment if you do get one.
X201 user here, running Ubuntu 14.04. What wifi card works without disconnecting every now and then? On a Centrino 6200agn right now.
>>53824016
Centrino 1000 [Condor Peak] in my t420 works well (but im on 15.10).
>>53823879
Good, make sure you get a ssd with good reviews
>>53823888
This. Sometimes it takes weeks to deliver one package
>>53823911
I have a dock for my X201 and its fucking nice, extra USB ports, CD Drive plus a VGA so I can get a dual monitor setup going.
>>53802469
For video editing you need good CPU, GPU, monitor. Laptops are the worst place to searching for it.
>>53824003
Indeed, no set area for this laptop so I'll probably pass on it. Got my PC build anyways for demanding gaming etc.. Laptop is for watching movies and chilling. Cheers lad :)
>>53824052
Thanks, I'll look out for that.
>>53824070
quad core i7-3630qm is as fast as the i5-2500k, and it's still older than 3 years already.
You can get an eGPU instead of dGPU. This gives you the freedom of disconnecting GPU and having a very mobile machine.
>>53823786
UPS and priority USPS have always been decent to me. Fedex and standard USPS, you might as well just burn a pile of money instead because you're never fucking getting the shit you ordered.
>>53824171
You don't making this easy. I'm not telling it's impossible, I'm telling this is very problematic.
>>53824246
How is it problematic?
You want to seriously gaym - you connect eGPU.
You want to light gaym (cs:go or some shit) - you use iGPU
You want to go out to school/whatever - you disconnect eGPU and you go out
It's so simple.
Any comments on the T460s yet?
>want to buy a t420 mobo with the dgpu just so i can run 3 external monitors
I'm close to doubling the price i spent on the laptop on accessories and upgrades...
>>53823555
>why couldn't I buy the upgrade to pro?
The standard upgrade procedure will be more expensive than paying those extra $30.
Manufacturers like Lenovo use OEM activation, which requires some licensing info in the board's EEPROM.
If you check the parts list for most thinkpads, you'll see that windows 10 home and pro have different boards(and different FRUs). This is because those boards have different licensing data that is used by the OS to validate the license.
Also, 10 pro boards include license tables for windows 7, so you can downgrade easily(using recovery discs from lelnovo, which they send for free during the warranty period)
10 pro allows you to defer major upgrades(the most important feature for some people), to use bitlocker(useless for me) and it can be configured as a remote desktop host.
>>53824434
Don't forget to buy the new heatsink+fan and a 90W power adapter
>>53824286
You want to do serious gaming or video editing - you use a desktop with big monitor.
You want to go mobile - you take laptop.
It's simplified even more
>>53823911
>EVO
The pro costs a little more but it lasts longer than the evo.
>>53824463
I understand the differences. I don't use bitlocker. Group policy changes would be nice to have. And updates aren't super important for me. Fuck the botnet worrying I have college to worry about.
Now I understand that most manufacturers use OEM distributions of Windows that I know now the EEPROM is used to identify better. But how does this stop me or cause me issues when using a legitimate copy of Windows 10 Pro if I wanted or needed it down the line? I'm sure Home is more than enough for what I need but I'd just like to understand this a little better. No worries if it's a bitch to explain I don't care -that- much.
>>53824478
Yeah. Looks like it isnt worth selling my igpu mobo though unfortunately. I'm going to put in my 2620m and 8gb of ram and create a near top spec dankpad.
>>53824490
I spent maybe $8 on the ssd because i got amazon credit for my birthday (There arent any 850 pro msata drives on there.)
>>53824324
>T460s
>/g/
>buying a new thinkpad
lol
you can ask about that fucker in 4 years or so, we are still at the *20 generation ;^)
that said:
I'll probably get a last gen X1C for $900 next week. Then I'll finally be the guy on /g/ with the newest and most expensive thinkpad. Finally, I will be someone!
>>53820747
Check the archive. Some anon purported to have done a fair amount of research and concluded the R7 240 is the best GPU for the advanced dock that still fits (and just barely).
>>53824479
>having two computers
waste of resources.
>>53825023
>he doesn't have a server
leave
