>Don't die on me /ptg/!
,edition
Old: >>53717855
Comfy rules:
weebs >>>/a/ >>>/jp/ or just >>>/out/ ... ;^)
cretins/autism/zombies >>>/gif/
r/trackers >>>/out/
ratio-cucks >>>/biz/
Before you get in any whatcuck/what.cd faggotry for other trackers remember you can get in PTP using CG and BiB and BTN doesn't recruit atm. & you really don't need 90% what.cd if you have rutracker.
Not sure what private trackers are all about?
The mission of /ptg/ is to promote the highest possible standards of tracker service by providing members with opportunities for professional development, by recognizing technical competence through examinations and by advancing the interests of its members.
Check out the wiki and update it yourself if you want more instead of complaining like a fucking faggot. https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Private_trackers
How to get into private trackers (and survive): http://pastebin.com/BFQBwQxm
Paths to get into trackers (particularly old and outdated): http://pastebin.com/D74UA1UK
What.CD Interview Notes: http://pastebin.com/Wgz6T7ta https://www.whatinterviewprep.com/
Various tracker IRCs and sites open for signup
http://pastebin.com/dD3cqWKc
Use >>>/g/ptg as a link to find the /ptg/ thread.
Remember the following:
>staff occasionally read these generals and have posted here before.
>staff may pretend to be normal users asking for invites and when you invite them, they ban you for inviting strangers
>people may report emails and other personal info posted here to staff to get you banned.
>most of the invite offers here are people trolling you with false hope - begging for invites is a waste of time and you should just interview
Is it true that all Netflix rips are screen recordings and HDMI captures?
>>53731731
yea webrips
>>53731703
Does 312c like TvTropes?
Should I change to Transmission from deluge?
>>53731751
sure
5th for desi.cd
>>53731751
if you use mac
>>53731772
In that case he should change from Mac first.
>>53731742
Why can't they just grab the untouched video? Is the DRM that strong?
>>53731805
How do you expect to get more than a stream from a stream.
Which tracker is the most likely to get me laid?
>>53731772
transmission on windows works fine, much better than utorrent 2.2.1 or deluge imo
>>53731900
What.cd
Biggest tracker full of normies but only if you're a higher rank than I am.
>>53731886
What? I mean the video that gets sent to you over the network, screen capturing decreases quality, hence "untouched". The stream is just normal h264 video encrypted and sent over the network, then it gets decrypted by the receiver, decoded and displayed.
I'm just wondering why they don't grab the video after decryption or have software that simulates the process since it's hassle free (no need to encode) and better quality.
>>53731937
>drug addled hippies
>normies
>>53731951
Why do you think they screen capture it.
>>53731953
Most normal people have tried drugs. Only I haven't.
>>53731964
>tried
If the PU forums are to be believed, what.cd users' lives are drugs and shitty music
>>53731982
WCD is the only tracker that most people know about. And the ratio of girls:boys should be decent.
>>53731960
Because nobody made tools to get past Netflix DRM? With the kind of demand these shows have, you'd think someone would. To me it's a sign that piracy scene is not doing very well.
>>53731964
>Most normal people have tried drugs.
Well actually.
>>53732030
There was one guy in my cohort who told our tutor that he grew mushrooms and knew how to ship drugs in and everything.
Going to be a stellar doctor one day.
>>53731900
Make Overlord on BTN with unlimited invites and ItalianKitten will literally do anything you want.
>>53731751
>Should I change to Transmission from deluge?
Yes, now dance.
>>53732049
It was easy to get into BTN last window. Overlord is just overkill.
>>53732169
Going up the ranks at BTN is basically pointless.
>>53732272
>HDbits invite
>pointless
kek
x264 is underrated and comfy
>>53732272
Yup, apart from the HDB invite threads, utterley pointless.
>>53732307
okee merci pour ta contribution
Lads, I thought I'd be able to unarchive a 15GB rarred game torrent with 7Zip but it's not working. It's showing an error.
I've re-checked the files and the torrent is seeding @100%, so I'm not missing anything.
What am I doing wrong?
>>53732345
Try installing the latest winrar or 7zip
>>53732363
Will do, thanks mate.
Where does BTN recruit? I know they aren't recruiting right now but I wanna make sure i'm ready when they do.
Also does BIB recruit from MAM?
>>53732363
It worked. Great, thanks again anon.
>>53732478
>Where does BTN recruit?
Nowhere at the moment. Recruitment closed. A thread will probably pop up in What.cd Elite forum when they open up again.
>Also does BIB recruit from MAM?
No. What.cd PU invites forum.
>>53732531
Does anyone good recruit from MAM?
>>53732478
In the past, WCD elite and AHD HD-Pro.
What is the user count and max users at BTN now?
>>53731703
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>53732783
you're not getting in so don't bother :^)
>>53732798
>carAt
>>53732783
around 33900/35000
>>53732807
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>53732858
>if i post it again maybe i will trole him
>friends come over
>they want to see a movie and are discussing how to get it
>two have netflix, the other has HBO NOW, one of them has to sign in with their account
>while they are wasting time discussing how to play the movie on my setup, I have already downloaded it
>I was on my laptop looking up the movie on my PTP account
>I have 200MB internet so it downloaded in 7-8 minutes, 1080p internal encode of course
>the movie is now on my media server which also torrented it for me
>I use Kodi from my Android TV box to access it and press play while they wonder what I'm doing
>it begins to play on my 65 inch plasma display with a 5.1 system
>they have no fucking idea how I did it and I don't tell them because I don't want to invite anybody
>I just tell them to start watching the movie while I make myself a sandwich and come back after the opening credits.
Got any similar stories, /ptg/?
>>53733005
I actually got laid because I was over a girls place and used popcorn time to make it so we could actually watch a movie quickly.
not /ptg/ but close enough.
>>53733005
>At friends place
>they trying to figure out how to watch a shitty tv show episode that aired the day before (Doctor who)
>Have it downloaded on my plex server at home
>cast it to Chromecast from my phone
>Leave and tell them to come get me when they lose their pleb taste
>>53733058
>fucking a girl who is fine watching yify
Explains how you got laid if she had such low standards
>>53733149
>implying that women can tell the difference between YIFY and remuxes on a TV
>>53733179
pls respond
>>53733005
>implying you have friends
>>53733213
yts.ag
>>53733213
>https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Private_trackers
Read the fucking wiki instead of coming here after 14 minutes and asking to be spoonfed.
>>53733213
>whats a good tracker for films and cinema?
If you mean black and white shit from 60's and indie cinema from Russia, probably Karagarga and Cinemageddon
>>53733161
Patrician ones can
I would never stick my dick in a pleb who couldn't
>>53734200
Are you a virgin?
>They are people posting on this board that failed their wcd interview the first time
Is 80gb upload a day decent? What amount do you need to upload a day to be /pro/
>>53735015
>you need to upload a certain amount to be some kind of pro
lol, are you a teenager?
>>53735051
Just wondering how i'm doing buddy
>>53735076
>hdbits.org
Ummm, you know the decent one is .com, right anon?
>>53735076
>.org
lol try harder
>>53735089
>>53735106
Nice meme can I save it?
>>53735076
SAD
>>53735076
>.org
>>53735114
You're an idiot.
Hey, can someone check Karagarga to see if there's any James Bennings films up there?
>>53735076
who cares how you're doing
>>53735207
>implying this is you
>screenshot in screenshot
>>53735089
>>53735106
>>53735130
>>53735133
>sour grapes
>>53732049
>ItalianKitten isn't on BTN
O im laffin
>>53735207
>he's not on PTP
>>53735207
>btn not freshon
>what not waffles
>hdbits and ahd not based 312c presents ptp
>>53735200
What films you idiot
>>53735076
>.org
>>53732298
I'm a VIP and have never seen an invite thread for HDBits.....
>>53735226
No really. You're an idiot. don't boast about being a member of hdbits.org, you just look retarded
>>53732319
Shut up u degenerate swiss fuck go eat dick in duebendorf or where you u scum from
>>53735221
>implying it's not me (you)
:^)
>>53735266
haha daaaaaaaamn u mad as fuck bruh!!
For any newcunts reading the thread and getting confused , HD-bits.com is the new HD-bits.ro aka the wrong one.
HDbits.org is so far at the top of the pyramid it's basically the sun
>>53735263
>hurr durr le sekrit club rule 1 and 2 faggot kek :--DD
>>53735290
>HD-bits.com
what is that
>>53735310
some site that thought it could trick some users into thinking that it was the real HDbits.org
hey elite masterrace,
anyone know where I can find a remux of the revenant. I'm only on curry ptp and comfy and don't see anything better than a web dl. it won best picture I know that means as little as GP but should I wait for bluray?
>yes I want to watch man killed by bear in woods film
thanks fampaitachi
>>53735322
It's not out yet you spastic
>>53732704
only mtv but you need 6 months, tehc recruiter doesn't reply
>>53735321
You mean I paid spaghetti $100 for the wrong hdbits site!!!? OMG
>>53735333
>6 months
>for fucking MTV
>>53735331
should I watch itunes webdl amigo? or keep waiting?
>tfw Star Wars bluray came out before webdl
>wasn't what I was hoping
>tfw dk if I should make pasta or walk
>image.jpg related
>>53735336
I paid $200
>>53735353
It's true son. That's why I was so fucking happy when anon invited me to btn
yo speaking of which I have like 50GB up and 1.7TB downloaded on btn after a week, does that really not matter? I permaseed but ratioless is like a dream to me
>too good to be true
>>53735434
Just keep seeding anyway
>tfw joined HDB 2 days ago and I've almost uploaded 100gb already
>>53731904
I heard it was a ported piece of shit +it's an unofficial release.
>>53735403
You're not missing out on anything , trust me.
Go watch knight of cups if you wanna catch up on last year
>>53735403
yo move the napkin anon I wanna print this. I'll uber to my nearest chipotle if that's real. hook a lazy one legged vet anon up.
>>53735522
>can't tell if meme'ing
is knights of cups real? sounds good enough to me. is salt any good? I know ahlzy loves it be he's a queer
>>53735557
What do you mean is Knight Of Cups real you fucking mong
Have you not heard of Malik?
Go back to the irc you pleb shit cunt
>>53735496
utorrent 2.2.1 hasn't been updated in 7 years.
>mfw had to reimage my computer when transmission release came with ransomware
>>53735496
its official
>>53735575
>Malik
literally no clue. I watched game of thrones and some how missed that dude dying at the end. who is malik?
>>53735353
yeah its annoying, its 6 months plus vip for 50% of the recruitment threads on MAM some even want you to have like 500 GB upload for literally no reason. Most of these trackers are pure curry too
>>53735640
VIP is so they can spot people who are dumb enough to pay to pirate
>>53735673
But you don't pay to get VIP you just need 25gb UL which is easy because of bonus points
>>53734481
Does it fucking matter?
>>53733005
Too much comfy... is it really a good thing?!
Also full screen on netflix on laptop and stream but p2p release is miles better for the large screen.
>>53735310
It's like when you're trying to fuck the pussy but instead you fuck the butcrack that has sharp ,hard shitcrust.
>>53735322
bd not out ...so dumb, are you.
>>53735622
So why it isn't on the official site's releases?
>>53735688
Oh yeah true
>>53735711
spotted the virgin
>>53735718
>virgin shaming on 4chan of all places
>people still saying CG takes you to PTP
I hate this meme and I hate Mizar. Log in already you fucking cunt.
>>53735745
lel nigga he probably made the account to recruit there for like a week and then he fucked off
So I'm looking at what is takes to buy an invite through the lumens store at BTN but all my maths points to it effectively taking either a seedsize of double digit TBs or simply several years worth of seeding.
Like I know you get more BP the longer you seed a torrent but holy fuck.
>>53735640
wait VIP on MAM has different invite sections than PU? I've only ever seen MTV and TehC.
if a recruiter doesn't reply after over 4 months can I PM the SAME recruiter again?
>>53735718
>>53735744
>tfw have buffer on all porn trackers but can't get it up anymore.
>>53735745
>Please be patient. I have a multitude of site related responsibilities to deal with, in addition to my real life stuff. I'll try to be responsive as I can but it may take up to a week for you to hear back from me. If you have not received a reply by then please send me a reminder.
Thread is active .
>>53735711
hahahahahahaha
>>53735808
>>53735785
He hasn't signed in for 12 weeks
>>53735792
spam them as much as you want, they don't reply
>>53735830
well yeah 3 months, he recruited there for like 2 months then he fucked off
Out of curiousity , what trackers recruit from HDB?
>>53735830
13 weeks ago
>>53735885
Hon3yHD
>>53735267
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>53735923
caret, you uneducated piece of shit
>Not to be confused with Carrot or Carat.
>>53735207
>No PTP
>Must be LaserEyes
>ipt tracker down
>>53735978
he was banned on what2
>>53735244
>>53735244
>>what not waffles
Im on both and waffles is inferior in every possible way.
>>53735996
Who the fuck cares about IPT
>>53736003
Thats the joke captain cuck
>>53736011
aren't you happy?
>>53736003
&?
>tfw
Word around is that the banned IRC niggers are plotting to get back into PTP together with new IPs/VPNs and taking their revenge on 312cuck, even azacuck is helping them since he wants a PTP account too. Is it true?
>>53735923
>uneducated swine reply
>>53732818
>>53736011
Thats a pretty horrid joke tbhdesusempai
>>53736038
maximus keximus
>>53735622
my bad
https://download.transmissionbt.com/files/transmission-2.92-x64.msi
>>53736137
has ransomware. don't download
>>53736168
failtroll
Could I kind anon show me what their RSS filter for GoT looks like? mien suck and always end up with 5 copies per show. btn of course
>>53735788
NEW BTN AUCTION BOYS
let's pretend we have friends
>>53736337
gurus can participate only 15mil entry fee vs the 100mil I spent 3 weeks ago. fock me
>>53736369
>>53736378
dat tinfoil?
>>53736409
they're called "grills"
can familia where can I find this "Celebrity Plastic Surgeons of Beverly Hills"
>not on btn
>not on ipt
what do?
>not for me ofc
>>53736449
>not for me ofc
haha sure faggot, keep telling yourself that
>>53736462
pls help elite all mighty master race. my girl friend wants a nose job and I said why not
>>53736438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia9rPW8yXqE
>>53736511
you smart, you loyal, i appreciate that
>>53736449
>>not for me ofc
anon please
>>53736487
>girlfriend
>my
>>53736487
>>53736624
>girl friend
>Star Wars Episode VII The Force Awakens 2015 720p BRRip X264 AC3-EVO
kek
>>53736825
>720p
>BRRip
>AC3
>EVO
H o l y s h i t
>>53736825
>A:10 V:10
it's yify all over again
I keep on seeing the term ratio cuck pop up in /ptg/ OPs but never seeing it define. What's a ratio cuck?
Why exactly is HDB so coveted and hard to get into?
>>53736915
>>53736926
>>>/reddit/
>>53736915
faggots that can't keep up on what.cd use the term to feel better about their failure
>>53736926
Best encoders in the tracker scene, vast collection of movies/documentaries
>>53736971
If you're UHD on HDB can you get into like any tracker?
>>53737006
don't know, i'm only 1080p atm
Just farted lol
Is there a good scat tracker somewhere?
>>53737104
>>53736511
Respect the classics bitch nigga
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8fijggq5R6w
>>53737126
>nelly
>classic
fuck off back to the south
>>53736825
>hardcoded subtitles
Smh
>>53737148
>Khaled
>good
Fuck off back to the south
>>53737172
>implying i was the one who posted Dj Khaled
lelkek
>>53737104
Could someone on bandcamp make an album entirely of them farting and upload to what.cd according to the rules?
>>53736047
No, if anything I plan to go back in a couple weeks and beg for forgiveness
>>53737221
ambient.noise
>>53736971
How do you not keep up on a tracker? You just have to let your client seed right? Sorry I only use public trackers so I don't know much about private trackers.
>>53737282
they think they can get mad upload in short amount of time on what.cd, wich sadly won't work with mp3s
>>53737282
Join what.cd and see how hard it is. A bunch of autists with autodl and seedboxes hog all the upload
>>53737318
>upload perfect FLAC
>5 leechers
>all at the same exact percentage because of seedboxes
>>53737318
>implying
:^)
>>53737282
Why are you here
>>53737017
I'm aiming for UHD by the end of this week
>>53737372
cool beans, do that
What are the best routes to PTP, AHD and HDB?
I'm on WCD and TEH
>>53737359
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>53737407
>AHD
AB
>PTP
WCD
>HDB
Just give up now. They don't recruit and no one will give you an invite ever
>tfw no U2
>>53737411
filtered :^)
>>53737372
>Why are you here
Thinking about trying to get in on a private tracker.
So if there are a bunch of people with faster upload speed than you, you don't get any uploads? I thought torrent clients requested a different chunk from each seeder and then requested another from that client when that chunk was done.
>>53737488
You do get upload but torrent clients prioritise faster connections obviously so seedboxes will win everytime. This is fine for most sites and you want people to use boxes so you get your torrents fast af but when it comes to downloading small files like 100mb albums the seedbox will get 95% of the upload and you'll get the remaining 5% which means nothing.
That's why people struggle on WCD and why they recently changed the rules to stop people auto dl'ing free leech stuff. It's also why a lot of good trackers recruit from WCD as it's a good test.
Anyway you should get on private trackers for safety and better content anyway , you don't have to be in it to win it. E-peen only matters online.
It's easy to survive if you're not a retard who just wants to download pleb shit he likes
>>53737474
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>active time: 5w 6d
>Uploaded: 32.0 KiB
wake me up inside
>>53737610
>(86.43 GiB daily / 604.98 GiB weekly)
noice
>>53735200
considering they're everywhere from rutracker to PTP to CG i imagine they are
but on a related note, have the KG admins said anything about reinstating invites at all since they were disabled?
>>53737621
I don't know how I'm managing to hold in the positivies on any site when nobody downloads from me. I might as well just buy my shit instead since I'm basically waiting on "sales" anyway with freeleech stuff.
我的名字并不重要......最重要的是什么我要上传。我只是恨他妈的音乐产业,而企业巨头灯红酒绿的尸体。我的聆听体验是很可怕,低劣的转码,我总是想分享我的音乐。这是盗版的时间,每张专辑是值得抓取。而且我会把网站多达上,我可以。它的时间对我来说,种子...,它的时间对我来说抢夺。我What.CD冒险从这里开始。
>>53733005
Love this. Please anybody else, share.
>>53737640
What site are you struggling with
>>53736047
I don't know where you've been hanging out, but #ptg is just bots now.
Oppaitime's IRC is just for oppaitime now. Nobody uses #ptg anymore.
>>53737641
wow man absolutely original
>>53737649
It's this way with every site. Nobody ever downloads from me because they're getting it from other people. I guess.
>>53737641
Isn't it against the rules to post as a different language than English ? I don't recall off the top of my head
>>53737683
What trackers are you on though?
>>53737683
Why dont you get a seedbox yourself?
>>53737708
Mostly just GazelleGames anymore. I've stopped using the others. It was all low-end shit like animebytes and empornium.
>>53737721
Get on BCG instead and you wont have any problems
As for AB you could have just downloaded FL stuff as all the decent stuff is FL
EMP is just lame
>>53737704
What server?
>>53737704
DELETE THIS
how the fuck is italiankitten Guru on BTN? what the fuck I can't even get 500 snatches.
>>53737868
>>53737892
Anons, just STFU please.
>>53737960
kek muh sekrit channel!
>>53737704
Why do people even bother deleting, shit gets archived anyways
>>53737982
nothing to see here anon, move along pls
>>53732847
Fuck off Alhzy
>>53736038
>KriemhildGretchen
Reported to Ryan
>>53738022
Ask tomoko
>tfw there's no feet pics on pornobay
anon why you lie to me ;-;
>>53738022
DELETE THIS
>>53738012
Channel name is #ptg-underground and it's on a Minecraft IRC server
>>53738055
holy shit
DELETE THIS
>>53738055
Wew lad :^)
>>53738022
If you're smart you'll go through the archives and look for various usernames and find their information and message them
>>53738055
>>53738126
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>53738041
>>53738055
DELETE THIS
>>53737428
HDB is recruiting on AHD, PTP and bib
is ahd being ddosed? It's loading painfully slow.
>>53738212
fucck status.awesome-hd.me -- better not be I was planning on making pro today
>>53738208
DELETE THIS
>>53738208
you know the threads will be taken down now, right?
>>53738324
HDB is recruiting on HDB
>>53738329
I meet all the requirements for Extreme User but don't have enough snatches even for Member on BTN. What do? serious question pham. how do I get 1000s of snatches asap?
do I upload?
do I just auto snatch everything that's not a season pack?
>>53738460
>do I upload?
right there
>>53738460
>wasn't meant to be a reply
and I cross seeded like a fool and downloaded 50 massive remux season packs to meet total data of 2TB
>>53738324
only if a tattletale goes to the mods with it
>>53738500
I was worried for you a sec there anon
>>53738488
assuming scene is uploaded by bot. What I upload? Do I just make seasons from that thread of finished seasons that need packs or do I find new content?
is anybody in FileList?
>>53738518
You do know 31jewcuck browses these threads and hates us with a passion to the point that ye will make it as hard as possible for us. It doesn't matter though, our collective power overwhelms him, there isn't much he can do.
>>53738524
Fuck that, just sort torrents by smallest file size, download as many as you want/need, leave seeding for a week, and you're in.
>>53738554
>for us
too bad i'm already in HDbits
>>53738554
I wish he would grow up and stop using hasty generalizations and other fallacies to back up his reasoning. If he isn't man enough to tell me to my face that he's not giving me a second chance because of my past association, then he is no man at all.
>>53738627
I feel like we need a mediator between 312c and /ptg/. We all have common goals, to get movies and seed them for others to enjoy, their is no reason to resort to harmful banter and harassment from EITHER side. 312c may have his flaws, but /ptg/ needs to change just as much as he does.
>>53738683
>I feel like we need a mediator between 312c and /ptg/
Nope, you just need ptg to stop breaking rules. Problem solved.
Is the PTP thread on WCD still up?
What's the best way to batch encode H.265 on Windows? I'm using handbrake now but it always seems to fuck up the sound, and I've not been able to consistently fix the problem. I think it has something to do with the downmix, but I'm not sure.
>>53738939
>using a beta encoder
>not expecting errors
>>53738896
no
yes
maybe
>>53738810
It isn't breaking a rule if you aren't aware that the rule is being broken. For example, inviting friends in private. I have personally been invited by staff MULTIPLE times over irc in private. What makes the case different with PTP? Well, all of a sudden some guy thinks Oh, not real life = not acceptable when that has not always been true for PTP in the past. And if you really want to go there, why don't you meet me in real life and tell me you wouldn't invite me. You can know someone your whole life (in person) and they can still betray you. The difference between knowing someone in real life and online doesn't even begin to make since when , most people meet online anyway. For example, online dating. Just because I wasn't invited by someone in real life doesn't make me any more trustworthy than you're best friend, the suicide bomber, or your other best friend , the guy who goes home and beats his wife everyday. You can be just as deceptive online as you can in person, but you hide behind rules, claiming that Knowing someone online means you don't know them at all when in reality No one knows you better than your self. Stop hiding behind rules you bend for yourself.
>>53739030
hahaha wow
so it isn't breaking the law if you don't know that you're breaking the law? Tell that to a judge..
>>53738667
>using a picture of the smiley with a carat nose
>>53739072
That actually works in a court more often than not. Just yesterday there was news about some saudi doctor hanging gay flag over his house, he was arrested but released because he had no clue it represented fags, it just looked cool to him.
>>53738460
Just download little file size torrents over 100 MB, you should reach a couple of thousand snatches in an hour or so.
>>53739072
The rules section never clearly states that getting invites online is unacceptable. If you had given me the chance to fix my mistske, I would have. All you had to do was undo the invite and say "Ok guys, maybe I wasn't clear enough" If you don't have clear enough rules, how can you expect anyone to follow them
>>53739119
where is it against the law to hang a colorful flag?
>>53739119
I just want him to know that I didn't mean to break the rules. Yeah, I was skeptical of the idea of being invited online. But I felt I knew the guy and nothing was states about physical contact needed to be made. If that were the case, I would have waited for recruitment, or hell, fucking drove up there. Judging a person by their mistakes is like looking in a mirror and saying you don't have any flaws.
>>53739195
>saudi
>>53739206
eh,who cares about those terrorism financiers
>>53738810
People make mistakes. Rules are broken. But you don't give anyone a chance to fix what they have done. Unless you're claiming to be perfect, and admit you have never made a mistake breaking a rule. I don't want to hear that giving forgiveness is impossible. Does anyone really deserve forgiveness? Maybe not, but thinking like that is corrupt despite the perfection you are trying to keep
