Why is Arch so terrible?
>>53710046
Because the logo is a fat fuck underneath a giant blue dorito.
>>53710054
Kek
>>53710046
>archfag
>having scheduled meetings or any sort of social responsibilities in general
Hold on a moment, let me post my 9000 autistic images I post in every thread showing that Arch from 2006 is bad
>>53710046
>Pacman fucked up xorg.conf
>Isn't good enough to fix xorg in 5 mins
>Still using Arch
I mean, if you were able to install it in the first place, fixing it isn't really that fucking hard.
Stupid people should stick to an OS for stupid people. Stay away from Arch, and use Ubuntu or some shit.
thread is cancer
>>53710046
>xorg.conf
>2010
Are you stuck on Debian anon?
Does pacman really fuck up xorg.conf?
I don't even have that. Just a keyboard conf.
>>53710046
>>/b/
>>53710046
>kill your self!
Whole thing is a wannabe psuedo secret club where its members spend most of their time trying to keep everyone out. Had a few retarded friends online fall for the dumb idea of making their own private IRC circlejerk, they're a hundred feet under their own inside jokes that nobody else gets that they can't even remember anymore and they literally ban everyone that joins the channel within 10 seconds.
Following this it doesn't really matter what the distro is, it could be just an .iso full of random numbers, as long as you can say you are using it and it's sooo much better and you wouldn't understand because you're dumb.
>>53710136
Case in point, the whole thing is just separatism, only the "smart" should be able to use computers, definition for which is made up as they go along.
>>53710309
computers are racist.
>>53710191
No. I've never had xorg break, except when I personally fucked something up, and it's easy enough to undo changes that I myself made.
>>53710371
This is so stupid leave now!
>>53710136
He has to fix his OS
>>53710371
You are that one buttblasted faggot who like to post this meme because you can't argue
>>53710380
>>53710486
time to change your diaper, padded pals
>>53710496
Yea my but hurts from all this shit posting
>>53710496
Time to go back to >>>/v/ manchild
>>53710350
There is such a thing as going too far with the stupidity thing the other way and dumbing it down and removing features. Calling someone who can get their tasks done with ubuntu a n00b or scrub is going too far the first way and is pointless separatism, aka muh secret club. Especially if you ignore windows users who never made an attempt.
>>53710496
>>53710514
>>53710517
I am curious what that furaffinity dude thinks if he even knows this is going on, seen it posted almost every other arch thread since it was found. Hilarious shit. ...
>>53710136
You can call yourself smart all you want, installing and maintaining arch is not hard, its just time intensive and pointless.
If thats your hobby ok, but calling an OS that you don't need to fix after every update an "OS for stupid people" is just retarded.
Also, go kill yourself archfag.
>>53710900
The "muh hobby" is the most fantastic cop out, it's not acceptable, they use being anon to hide this.
>find a bunch of new linux users
>haha scrubs fuck yourselves I am smarter than u
>find a bunch of experienced linux users
>argue with them
>lose
>w-well it was just my hobby anyway
>>53710054
Old joke. But still funny
>anti arch fags with too much time
>>53711072
I have plenty of time because i don't need to fix my debian install.
>>53710369
>Xorg never breaks except when it does
Linux-zen or ck?
>>53710046
Because some (read: most) Arch users are elitist faggots
t: Arch user
>>53710046
they need to change the logo
>>53711166
Give me a better logo
>>53711112
It broke when I carelessly changed a config file. Not on a system update.
Of course shit breaks when you misconfigure them, idiot.
>>53711203
simply ebin
Name ONE thing that arch does better than any other distro and hence makes it worth using
>>53711117
I use ck but been thinking about switching to pf, is it worth it?
Patches included in pf:
>1. mainline update
>2. -ck patchset with BFS
>3. BFQ I/O scheduler
>4. TuxOnIce
>5. UKSM
>6. graysky's kernel GCC patch
The worst part of Arch, in my experience, is updates to pacman, package-query, and their dependencies that prevent me from doing easy updates. I can't update this package because a dependency is in conflict, I can't remove it either. Cue a bunch of messy deletion, extraction, and rebuilding from tarballs.
On the bright side, I finally got a grip on how to install bootloaders to UEFI yesterday. My previous partition scheme was a mess, because I couldn't figure out how to install Windows to GPT until now, having just purchased a Windows 10 license.
I couldn't imagine using any other distro, because of the way hardware is handled by installers. I need a good command prompt. I'm also not a fan of desktop environment lock-in - I like a good Window manager instead of a DE.
>>53711268
AUR
>>53711268
Package management. Well, aside from the portage distros anyways.
>>53711362
>package management
>comparing AUR to debian's massive repos
LULZ
>>53711331
SBo is far better than AUR
>>53711461
Most packages I use are out of date (by a year, for example Mopidy is still on version 1.1.1) on slackbuilds.org
>>53710371
I'd much rather have the Arch user's timetables than the typical person one
>>53710371
Arch memes are purely memes. I've never broken X and I wouldn't even know how to. If updating your system every 3 days is too time consuming for you then you should kill yourself. People who hate arch have never used it or are triggered by the installation process.
>>53711461
What is sbo?
>>53710046
>AppArmor not officially supported
>SELinux not officially supported
>no installer if you use the official iso, because autism
>tries to be simple and tries to follow the KISS principle, but it uses SystemD and GNU
>Plymouth not officially supported, the aur version is shit
>you learn NOTHING by installing arch, it's literally the same stuff you do when installing for example debian, just more autistic
>"elitist" users are butthurt by everything, because they don't want to admit, that there distribution isn't the best
>using the terminal is most times a waste of time
>no version for servers
>>53711207
Except all 3 times when it broke for me it was during a system update.
>>53710054
my fucking sides
>>53710046
Only icon is terrible for arch. Everything other is fine
>>53710046
>Why is Arch so terrible?
Reformulated for you
> Why is Arch userbase so terrible
Because it's made of l33t h4x0r with no life that only want to look edgy by using a "hard" distro.
>>53711286
Why not the zen-kernel?
>>53712064
Only the developers make the decisions in Arch, the users have no say.
Arch isn't user freedom, it's developer freedom.
Systemd literally made shipping and developing easier.
>>53710136
>Stupid people should stick to an OS for stupid people.
Hence the continued existence of Arch.
>>53712064
Grsecurity, PaX and RBAC is officially supported anon. Also, it's best to patch MAC by yourself.
i think arch linux is good, espesially for their AUR.
When I switched to it from Ubuntu in 2007, it was a compelling alternative that was in no way considered "hardcore." That would be something like Gentoo or Slackware.
But I imagine there is some better minimal distro at this point. One that doesn't have fucking systemd of all things.
Wouldn't know though. I actually know how to use a computer so I've been on FreeBSD forever.
At least only two of the several hits for "AUR" in this thread are actually suggesting it isn't terrible.
>>53711072
It's the weekend, all off from their actual jobs
>>53710046
Probably because you haven't tried it
>>53714736
>>But I imagine there is some better minimal distro at this point. One that doesn't have fucking systemd of all things.
Void, Calculate linux, Alpine, Crux, Arch-openrc, Manjaro-openrc, any Slackware derivatives...
>>53710136
I have been using Arch for ~1 year, and pacman has never fucked up my xorg.
>Use arch for KVM host
>All guest systems run CentOS 7
I like to live precariously on the edge of eternal peril.
>>53710046
You never used Arch stop talking shit
>>53711427
Yeah, who would ever want software written this century? The older, the better.
>>53715575
I thought alpine was just for small embedded devices?
And Crux interests me but how is the hardware support?
Arch Linux is the best linux distro.
Nubuntu and Debian users, how does it feel to know there's an entire group of individuals who are better with computers than you are? Meet Arch users. They are better than you.
They understand the hardware better. They understand the basic principles of computer science better. They know how networks work better than you. They understand the pros and cons of filesystems (including ext4 and btrfs) because with Arch you get to choose filesystems. They can program, too, since learning a scripting language vastly improves productivity under Arch (and this really pisses you off, since programming was one thing you always wanted to do but could never really find any practical projects to work towards.) Oh, and they probably know Debian better than you, too, since most advanced Linux users these days are ex-Debian users who managed to learn Arch years ago when it was much less "user friendly."
At this point, a confident individual would admit to himself that he has a lot to learn about Linux and computers in general, but since you lack the self esteem to do that you run back to Nubuntu or Debian, install KDE and keep repeating to yourself "at least I can run look pretty. At least I can run look pretty." You're also probably very pleased about being able to click around with your horribly restrictive GUI... because Nubuntu has somehow managed to convince you that consoles are outdated.
At this point you probably rationalize "well the only thing I know is Nubuntu or Debian, so I must be a Nubuntu or Debian expert!" as if knowing only one thing makes you an automatic expert, or that learning Arch forces you to forget how to use Nubuntu or Debian entirely.
Meet Arch users. They're better than you.
>>53716521
Duh.
>>53716526
Fuck, I know this is probably old copypasta bait, but I have never agreed with anything more in my life.
>>53711268
I-it has a nice logo...
>>53710046
Arch user for ~2 years now, everything "just werks" so I really can't relate to what you're saying
>>53716470
>hardware support
It's fookin linux m8
>>53716632
So it's shit? I just know I read in the install guide to not attempt it on older hardware
>>53716665
It's same as any other distro unless you have special snowflake CPU architecture
>>53711268
You can uninstall your DE without breaking everything in dependency hell
>>53716621
Arch user for 6+ years now. Literally still the exact same install, I even went through systemd upgrade with no problems.
Even LTEs don't last this long.
