I want to slowly kill the person who designed this program. Every time I'm forced tot use it It makes me want to kill myself.
Fuck you Apple
>>53707507
Me when trying to sync anything.
>>53707507
So what's wrong with it?
Hating on iTunes is so 2007.
It's actually a rather decent program now. And I don't even have an iPhone/iPad/iDevice. I actually used it to manage my music (for years after I switched to Android) before I switched to using Spotify Premium.
>>53707752
Every version I've used is an atrocious excuse for a media player.
i've never had to use it, feels good man
>>53707507
>Consuming corporate media
Shiggy
>>53707768
Why? It just works. It launches. You click your music. It plays.
iTunes is not meant to be your "Windows Media Player" for opening audio files. It's an actual music player with your library in it.
>>53707715
Apple.
>shitty proprietary format that provides no benefits and no one else can use
>default syncing to wipe out data you don't want deleted
>1 way data transfers
my thoughts from 2005, but i doubt anything has changed.
>>53707507
Its main problems:
1) iTunes was originally SoundJam MP, an MP3 player for Mac OS 9 by Cassady & Greene. Apple bought it and turned it into iTunes. As far as I can tell, iTunes' codebase is still within this lineage, meaning they've been piling features on that same old base for ages. Worse, because it was originally an OS 9 program, it's not designed for modern operating systems at all.
2) The part that's not centered around an ancient codebase are janky web app bullshit.
3) There's too many features crammed in. iTunes should be about *music*, fuck the rest. iDevice management, movies, TV shows, etc should be split out into their own dedicated apps.
>>53707906
Here's iTunes before it was iTunes
>>53707981
...and iTunes 1.0, which was derived from it.
This is the sort of simplicity that needs to make a comeback, except maybe this time without the brushed metal.
>>53708003
itunes doesn't look like this anymore?
>>53707981
huh, it was borne from a winamp clone? interesting
>bought an Apple product
You deserve it.
>>53708020
Not so much. You can get the sidebar back (kinda) but they're trying to phase the sidebar out in favor of a confusing multi-mode bar thing.
>>53707825
Nope
>>53708087
>"Sign In"
...to a music player?
>>53708087
>MOS and Hed Kandi
based
i use windows specifically to use iTunes.
imo, it is leaps and bounds over any media player available on Linux or windows. i don't even use an iDevice. Just a desktop.
Fun history bonus: the OS X Public Beta (10.0 prerelease) shipped with a music player that was different from both SoundJam and iTunes (see pic). In the final release of OS X 10.0 it was replaced by iTunes 1.0.
>>53708124
It's so you can sign in with your Apple ID for the iTunes Music Store, iTunes Match, Apple Music, etc.
>>53707845
> Apple.
You're not better than a Macfag yourself.
>shitty proprietary format that provides no benefits and no one else can use
ALAC is open source. What are you even talking about, specifically?
> 1 way data transfers
lol, what? "1 way data transfers" where? what are you talking about?
>>53708166
hey - did you know the first device to sync with iTunes was a Motorola Rockr?
Sorry /g/eek wannabees! Apple isn't the monster GNU and the net told you it was!
>>53708153
For windows at least, there's a program called Foobar2000 that does everything you want (manage a library, show a few visualizations, and "just work"), without trying to shill albums, being bloated as fuck, or forcing a shitty "sync" paradigm down your throat.
>>53708220
Does iTunes still sync with non-Apple products now that they have market share?
>>53708220
>Sorry /g/eek wannabees! Apple isn't the monster GNU and the net told you it was!
Only a monster could think the mission creep present in itunes is acceptable
>>53708220
>first device
no, first /phone/
>>53707507
works on my machine
>>53708268
Indeed, I recall iTunes syncing with various Rio devices for quite some time
>>53708087
You can bring back the sidebar by clicking "Playlists" at the top.
https://defectivebydesign.org
>>53708182
>ALAC is open source
7 years after they created it. before that it was closed. They created it to lock you into apple products. if you bought songs on itunes you couldn't run them anywhere else.
>1 way data transfers
can't upload from ipod to computer without 3rd party tools
>>53708315
Still kinda goofy though. Sidebars/source lists are infinitely better UI/UX than goofy icon-based multi-mode context sensitive button bars.
>>53708367
>7 years after they created it. before that it was closed. They created it to lock you into apple products. if you bought songs on itunes you couldn't run them anywhere else.
Apple has never sold ALAC format anything, ever. The only thing it's ever been used for is lossless CD ripping in iTunes.
D R M
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Locked in forever!
Why do people hate it so much? It's helps to keep your music library in order doesn't it?
>>53707507
It's the best looking music player though. Sure it takes like 300MB and the search is stupid but it's so pretty!
>>53708367
>can't upload from ipod to computer without 3rd party tools
Not true, iOS apps can support this. They then get a place in iTunes where you can get data to and from the app.
>>53708379
>Still kinda goofy though
Backpedaling
>>53708379
>>53708315
>>53708270
>>53708087
>>53708003
Why do you even bother? You all have like <20 albums, and they all suck balls. Just get some shitty internet radio app and use your phones like the other faggots.
>>53707507
one of the major reasons i'm switching from iphone but still waiting for the right android phone
>Haven't synced my phone with iTunes for years
Thanks Apple for eliminating the need to use it
>>53708270
I LOVE THAT BAND!
>forced to use it
How are you forced?
I started hackintoshing with 10.8. Also used 10.6 for a while.
Back then, apple's software was geniunely great. But now I have to force myself to use any of their software.
Even though my computer boots to OS X by default, I usually boot Windows instead.
It's truly become fisher price shit so that no normie could possibly hurt themselves. Fuck that.
>>53713536
There's no other reliable and easier way to get music to apple devices.
So your problem is actually the iOS sync and not the player itself. iTunes itself is a great music player desu.
>>53713666
Okay, so why are you using Apple devices for music?
Get a separate media player and be done with it.
Why the fuck are you using iTunes in the first place?
It's a terrible player, there's literally no reason to use it. If you use it for syncing, you should have know better than to use a cuck phone. If you actually purchase your media there, then I guess there's really no saving a kike financing cuck.
So keep on hating, because Crapple knows you'll keep on using it like a good cuck.
>>53709832
The nonexistent DRM? Apple's music hasn't been DRMed for years.
>>53713666
>There's no other reliable and easier way to get music on iOS devices
>>53707507
Yeah I tried taking a video off my relatives iPad. Couldn't find it through the files and itunes can play it, however it can't transfer the video lol.
>>53707715
>>53712102
There are better music players that doesn't take 2GB of space and isint bloated adware program that shills you top 10 albums.
>>53713861
>Yeah I tried taking a video off my relatives iPad. Couldn't find it through the files and itunes can play it, however it can't transfer the video lol.
Well that's either an outright lie or you are really, really stupid. Like "can't even operate iOS/iTunes"-level stupid.
>TFW you haven't upgraded iTunes since iTunes 10.6
>>53713759
>Get a separate media player
>>53713666
>>53713815
copy trans manager. drag and drop music straight from your music player to your iphone, and it even lets you make playlists. uninstalled itunes piiece of shit moment i found out.
>>53714309
meh, i don't care anymore, i'll get an android phone before i'll mess with music on my iphone4 again.
>>53708124
>he doesnt know about amazing apple music
all these niggas not using Google Play Music like God intended
>>53716036
Give me a native desktop client and I'll consider it. Web apps blow chunks.
>>53717471
>web apps blow chunks
No they don't
I use Subsonic to stream my shit to myself
Works great
>>53707673
Dumb anime poster
>>53717471
http://www.googleplaymusicdesktopplayer.com/
>>53717505
Yes they do. I want real applications, not gobs of Javascript coaxing a static document into resembling an application.
>>53717617
That's even worse, it's a standalone chrome tab wrapping a website to act like a desktop app. It's not native at all.
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