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Welcome to /flt/, we are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will literally work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
> Shell pasta:
The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/
The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/
The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html
Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml
The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/
Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/
How do I auto mount and unmount mtp devices???
> Free Softwarecheckem() {
curl -s "$1" | grep -Po "'\d+(\d)\1+'" | sort -u | sed "s/'\(.*\)'/>>\1/g"
}
getem() {
wget -e robots=off --no-check-certificate -nc -nd -nv -ERhtml -Ajpg,JPG -r rms.sexy/img/
}
>>53637143
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MTP
>>53637196
I already know how to manually mount
>>53637229
Just click the link, dammit.
I have done your mother
-RMS
>>53637258
Hey, Richard, fuck you.
>>53637246
I've looked through many times. Doesn't say anything about auto mount
>>53637266
Fuck yourself Linus, also why didn't you level up to GPLv3? Why do you dislike freedom?
>>53637287
Linux is an over-opinionated faggots. I wish he and his kernel went exciting. Then I would say I'm not glad that he's dead, but I'm glad that he's gone.
>>53637274
Sorry, try this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/autofs#MTP
What does /flt/ think about his statement?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaKIZ7gJlRU
>>53637382
Linus is based in that talk. He tells some little SWJ fag off for being an offended princess.
>>53637382
He has a point
>>53637407
Loved that.
"How do you think it reflects on the community when the project leader is saying such heinous things?"
Linus doesn't give a fuck.
>>53637307
Thanks but already tried that. Doesnt work
>>53637412
No he doesn't. He's autistically getting triggered by random shit.
>>53637522
Hoorah?
>>53637382
The point he doesn't get (any many others who use WTFPL or BSD too), is, that version 3 protects freedom by not allowing to jail it. He's using really evil rhetoric to convert "protection" into "if you follow my rules".
It makes absolutly no sense to allow people to take free code and make it propritary (GPLv0-2). What GPLv3 added is one more protection: When a company says: "Here, you can use free software on my device, but you are not allowed to modify it and run it like YOU want.", it takes the user away his freedoms:
> A program is free software if the program's users have the four essential freedoms:
> The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0).
> The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
> The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor (freedom 2).
> The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
>>53637431
At what part does he say that line?
>>53637544
HOO-RAH!!!
>>53637611
9:34
>>53637611
It's the SJW. Hold on, I'll find it.
https://youtu.be/1Mg5_gxNXTo?t=875
>>53637651
Yeah, bitch. More buttons. I need more buttons.
>>53637651
What are you using to record your screen?
>>53637697
Alt+Ctrl+Shift+R
>>53637712
Actually I'm just using Ctrl + Alt + R
>>53637712
Name?
>>53637775
http://www.maartenbaert.be/simplescreenrecorder/
>not using ffmpeg
You people need to read manpages.
>>53637676
This guy is fucking based as fuck!
Thank you for showing me this!
I installed kubuntu and it's working just fine but every once in a while my mouse cursor jumps around like it's having an epileptic seizure while I'm doing my everyday stuff.
Anyway to fix this?
I have a cheap laptop with an external optical mouse.
Already tried disabling the trackpad and turning down my mouse sensitivity, neither worked.
>>53637676
Holy shit
14:38
Linus don't take shit from nobody
>>53637993
Are you sure your trackpad is not dirty?
>>53637676
Slack cucks getting BTFO
>>53638023
No, it's not dirty.
Just cleaned it and the problem still persists.
>>53637382
Linus Torvalds objects, with an irrational kind of stubbornness, to one of our goals. Namely, preventing tivoisation. He wants people to be able to tivoise the products that you use, and thus take away your freedom.
This should not be surprising. Linus Torvalds never supported the Free Software movement. He sort of accidentally drifted into making a contribution to the Free Software community, but not because he ever supported our goals. And so he has actually said that he is against our aims of defending freedom for all users.
>>53637056
Is kali liux even useful without sitting in a van outside of someones house connected to their wifi?
Today on /flt/-TV:
Richard Stallman announcing the release and giving an overview of the major changes at the FSF's Boston office on June 29, 2007.
mpv http://gplv3.fsf.org/static/release/rms_gplv3_launch_high_quality.ogg
>>53638130
It's useful if you need pentesting tools and you know how to use them.
>>53638130
No. It's basically just Debian with a huge shitload of cracking tools. If you just want the tools and run Debian or a derviant, just add the kali repos or install the single program. The whole distro makes, in my holy opinion only sense for quick cracking in a VM.
By the way, there is also https://blackarch.org/.
>>53638028
>>53638180
Basically im trying to do "penetration testing" on anything outside of my home network, which from what I've seen is mostly decryption/packet sniffing, Does black arch work for exterior network "penetration testing"
>>53638153
>4chanX embeds ogg as audio
TRIGGERD
>>53638180
nice wallpaper
>>53638205
All you need for that is aircrack-ng and reaver. No need for a whole distro.
>>53638207
.ogg isnt audio?
>>53638256
.ogg is a container for video and audio, but mostly used as audio. Open the .ogg link in a new tab and you should see a video.
>>53638232
Thanks anon. I mentioned it because Im honestly just a windows user. My hard drive that had grub and Kali Linux I formatted when I started organizing my drives. Should I just use a vm?
>>53638264
What's the advantage over other video file types
>>53637676
51:41
>"The FSF is full of crazy, bigoted people"
>>53638286
Freedom.
>>53638306
Stallman pls
http://www.linuxveda.com/2016/02/08/the-always-up-to-date-guide-to-install-arch-linux/7/
i'm following this guide and i got to the step
# nano /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
but i'm getting "directory /ect/pacman.d does not exist
pls help
>>53638264
.ogg is typically used for vorbis, but yea, it's a container format
technically you're supposed to use oga for audio-only and ogv for video, other containers have similar schemes (for example, mp4/m4a/m4v, mkv/mka, etc)
you shouldn't assume ogg is audio-only, but it's often used that way in practice
>>53638153
Ebin, didn't know that this was the source of rms_thank_gnu.cup.jpg
>>53637306
Use decent grammar, Pajeet.
How to replace more than one word using sed?
I tried: echo "a few new people are jews" | sed 's/you|new|jew|few|view/GNU/g'
>>53638594
irregular exponents% echo "a few new people are jews" | sed -r 's/(you|new|jew|few|view)/GNU/g'
a GNU GNU people are GNUs
>>53638659
Thanks!
>>53637056
which VM is compatible with GNU that i can use on Windows 7?
I am installing arch on a 64bit system.
Should I still executegrub-install --target=i386-pc --grub-setup=/bin/true --debug /dev/sda?
>>53638731
just "grub-install /dev/sda" will do in my experience
>>53638737
I'll try it. thanks.
>>53638730
Virtualbox runs on windows
>>53638730
virtualbox, vmware workstation, qemu, dosbox
>>53637563
Nice summary, thanks
Anybody know what happens when I put a file into a folder with different(non standard permissions)? Will the file permission be changed accordingly or do I have to chmod again?
I have a shitty esata card that has drivers for ubuntu up to 12.10 but i'm running 14.04. will it werk? How does linux version mismatched drivers?
>>53637563
It can't be >evil when he doesn't get the point. It's just his opinion, nothing bad with having one.
>>53637306
>Linux is an over-opinionated faggots
>I wish he and his kernel went exciting
has anyone really been
kek
https://fsfe.org/campaigns/gplv3/bangalore-rms-transcript.en.html#linux-linus
We should call actually it GNU+Linux/Drama.
>>53638964
This is a rather technical talk, i think a lot of people would have issues understanding what they are talking about.
DEFEND YOUR CHAMPIONS
>GNOME
>KDE
>MATE
>Cinammon
>Xcfe
>Lxde
>others
Why should we use them
Why are the others shit
>>53638964
He really loves to interject.
Last month, I purchased a laptop [...] Sahara, it comes with free Linux software...
Richard Stallman: Oh you mean GNU+Linux.
Q7b: Linux, Linux operating...
Richard Stallman: It's GNU+Linux, please give us credit for our work. I'm happy to hear that your laptop came with our system on it, with GNU, and with Linux the kernel. Please do not call the whole thing "Linux". You're being unfair to us every time you say that.
Q7c: I came very late because of [...]. Anyway, having seen that they sell Linux...
Richard Stallman: They sell GNU and Linux.
[laughter]
Q7d: So, it's not compatible with Apple [inaudible], and Corel, and Microsoft...
Richard Stallman: That's right. But those are proprietary programs anyway, so, for ethical reasons you shouldn't use them.
Q7e: [...] because Linux is not compatible with Apple, or Corel, or Microsoft, my friends told me to switch over to Microsoft.
Richard Stallman: Well that's very bad. Did you do it? Did you do it?
Q7f: I have done it.
Richard Stallman: Oh, how sad. Well, thanks an awful lot.
>>53639104
>Why are the others shit
not gonna say anything in that regard, they are all free software.
my favorites are xfce and gnome.
>>53639104
DEs for the lazies, WMs for autism.
How likely is it that another platform for free software will rise that is completely independent of GNU or Linux?
Is anything already in the works, or even out?
I realize this might be kind of an ignorant question. I'm a beginner to this whole world
>>53639104
>>GNOME
GNOME seems to have problems with listening to the community
>>KDE
bloat
>>others
The same trying to be lightweight shit in different colors
>>53639116
He really does.
Do you have a link to that point in the video?
>>53639144
well, why would a new project rise and not use tools that are already available? have a look at MINIX3, even that uses parts of GNU because it's convenient.
>>53639104
All of those are shit.
>>53639161
Sadly the video download 404'd.
>>53638402
Follow this guide which is always up-to-date:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_guide
>>53639175
Fuck, that sucks.
Yeah, it's down.
>>53639144
TempleOS?
seriously though, being completely independent of GNU/Linux means being independent of C. you might be interested in the BSDs.
>>53637522
>>53637651
>gtk2
Why learn a deprecated GUI toolkit? Use GTK3.
>>53638402
Now I'm just guessing that's because you typod /etc/ as /ect/.
I am applying for a position as a sysadmin helper in a college.
I need to know unix.
How much should I know and what should I know as a college student?
What is the best terminal emulator for a 1440x900 laptop on xubunty?
>>53639285
all of this playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bju_FdCo42w&list=PLtK75qxsQaMLZSo7KL-PmiRarU7hrpnwK
>>53639296
urxvt or just the one that comes with xfce.
>>53639301
>urxvt
hnnnng
>>53639301
Bookmarked.
Honna donthe vid tutorials before the command line tutorial.
>>53639301
how do I change the tinyass font of urxvt?
>>53639389
in the config file
>>53639389
~/.Xresources
then reload it with xrdb ~/.Xresources
>>53639389
just use xfce-terminal bro
>>53639389
sudo apt-get uninstall urxvt
sudo apt-get install konsole
>>53639418
>konsole
triggered
How can I verify a piece of hardware is installed under linux?
It shows up with the correct name when I use lspci. Does that mean the hardware has been isntalled or just found?
>>53639565
you can't install hardware, just hardware. if it's detected properly you can assume that it's working as intended.
>>53639584
Alright thanks mang. Planning on migrating shortly and just checking that my stuff works from a live usb stick first.
Didn't want to connect the drives to the esata controller in case it fucks something up. It's a backup so theres another copy but still.
I have no life anymore, so I want to understand more about this. Is Linux more safe than Windows and can I make Windows as safe as Linux?
>>53639611
>can I make Windows as safe as Linux?
No for the simple reason that we don't exactly know what goes on in the background.
>>53639611
>Windows as safe as Linux?
you want to make the most insecure OS as secure as the most patched kernel?
impossible
>>53639418
KDE nazi spotted.
>>53639621
Why are there so many different Linux versions and which one would be the best for beginners?
>>53639301
>basic tmux tutorial
Just the fact that they include that makes it seem pretty decent. I should take a closer look at the playlist and check if they teach any fundamentals I've missed.
>>53639611
Microsoft is part of the NSA mass surveilence program PRISM, which means, even when you download some random tools and scripts that promise to deactivate different Windows spy settings, they will not and are not able to delete the NSA backdoors, which are built into the binaries (ones and zeros, only machines can read).
>>53639402
>>53639406
thanks done, looks good now
>>53639416
muh ricing
>>53639673
t. guy wearing a tinfoil head so the nsa cant hear his thoughts
>>53639638
some kind of ubuntu
>>53639720
PRISM is not tinfoil area, if it was then snowden would still live in his home.
Since we are already at the tinfoil topic,
I heard TOR is comprimised? So it isn't secure anymore? If so, when why Snowden, RMS and others still use it? Anyone got informations or did I got meme'd again?
>>53639794
>As of 2012, 80% of The Tor Project's $2M annual budget came from the United States government, with the U.S. State Department, the Broadcasting Board of Governors, and the National Science Foundation as major contributors
>US Government
>US State Department
That should be a red flag itself.
>>53639794
Hidden services, but using it for browsing should be still secure.
http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/07/new-attack-on-tor-can-deanonymize-hidden-services-with-surprising-accuracy/
>>53639794
Serious security issues will pretty much always be found in non-trivial networking software, and Tor is no exception. I personally trust Tor Project to promptly fix any serious issues as they become aware of them.
You're certainly more secure with Tor than without it, but security is never absolute.
did linus actually ever intentionally [i]give[/i] anything to the fsf or did rms just take it?
>>53639864
What are you getting at, friend?
>>53639864
He used the gpl.
Recently installed Xubuntu and having problems with no audio. I tried reinstalling alsa and pulseaudio as seems to be the common problem but that doesn't fix my problem.
neither does any of the other solutions offered online that I have seen so far.
>>53639673
That's why I blocked everything on router.
>>53639964
do you currently have pulseaudio installed? if no, run alsamixer and enable everything, if yes, use pavucontrol and hope that it works.
>>53639982
I have tried enabling all through both but neither seems to work.
>>53639990
so you currently have pulseaudio installed? try running pulseaudio -k and test again. if that doesn't work purke (!) pulseaudio and try setting stuff in alsamixer.
>>53640012
*purge
i can't write today.
>>53639980
kekd
Will UEFI bios cause issues with either Xubuntu or Debian?
How can I effortlessly access my HDDs (two 6TB ones with NTFS) from Windows machine if I change the computer they're attached to from Windows to Debian/Xubuntu? Currently I watch films on another PC (Windows machine) and they're being streamed over nothing fancy Windows network to it.
>>53640012
Tried doing both with no success.
>>53640072
no, the problems with this are pretty much a thing of the past if you disable secure boot.
you can mount those NTFS partitions in read-only with the -ro flag.
>>53640072
Linux can read NTFS, but to write to it, install a package called ntfs-3g.
>>53640083
fiddle with it until it works, try to find out if there are different soundcards or something. it will work somehow. troubleshooting sound is a mess.
>>53640100
Do Xubuntu/Debian update to latest kernels fairly fast or is there a 'waiting time' to see if the updated kernel is good/working one?`
I guess I'm trying to say, I don't want a distro that's slow on major/important updates (I know there's option to do it myself but I'm obviously not that experienced)
>>53640123
oh and one final question, I do need to clear out the HDDs and everything if I ever want to change the file system from NTFS? That's correct, right?
>>53640123
unless you are on brand spanking new hardware or urgently need particular features then it doesn't matter much at all if you aren't on the mainline version of the kernel
![Top Gear - [14x06] Спецвыпуск Амазонка.mkv_snapshot_01.01.31_[2016.02.18_00.53.01].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ThAwsGe.jpg "Top Gear - [14x06] Спецвыпуск Амазонка.mkv snapshot 01.01.31 [2016.02.18 00.53.01]")
>>53640164
Okay.
Is there any distro that doesn't dislike UEFI 32 bit tablets?
>>53639104
GNOME: Very comfy for laptops or touchscreens. Nice Extension Support.Everything seems really complete and well put together. Trackersearch is pretty good. Never crashes for me.Bold design choices (which I actually like). Eats through battery like crazy. Also no way to change any compositorsettings other than speed.
KDE: For the amount of eyecandy it runs surprisingly fast. Crazy amount of customization without ever touching config files.Krunner is sick. Sadly still not stable enough.
>>53640163
What like wipe them first? No.
>>53640123
debian unstable and testing do this pretty fast but on stable you may have to compile the newer ones yourself if you actually need it. (you probably don't)
>>53640255
>GNOME: Very comfy for laptops or touchscreens.
Really? I mean, I like Gnome, but my friend has it on his latest-gen XPS 13 with the highres touchscreen and touching through the interface seemed really clumsy.
The application list seems well-suited for it, but getting there through touch does not, making it kind of moot. Maybe I'm missing something?
>Eats through battery like crazy.
Treats my old laptop fairly well, but worth noting is I have animations turned off.
>>53640183
debian netinstall?
>>53640106
>Linux can read NTFS
Apparently can't or I am stupid and blind (this one I think).
What am I missing
I have two WDs at 6tb of size.
>>53640292
On Laptops with bigger screens it's better. I tried it. Im currently using gnome on my 15,4 laptop. Its comfy.
Also really tried to only install gnome3 applications(headerbar) and stuff. I think the compositor animations are crap anyway. They tried to make them non-flashy but it looks simply boring. I wish compiz was only a compositor and not a wm.
>>53640319
Install ntfs-3g
>>53640319
there is an ntfs package which has to be installed beforehand. I think its called ntfs-3g
>>53640332
>>53640339
Sorry, but why can it read my SSD that's NTFS but not the mechanical ones?
>>53640293
Gotta try with that I guess. I wonder if it'll include wifi drivers tho.
>>53640346
Im a noob aswell.But here's the first thing I
d do. Open your file manager from the terminal and then try to mount the hdd. Then upload the output from the terminal. Maybe some wizard can help you.
>>53640347
there's a nonfree iso here:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.3.0/amd64/iso-cd/
>>53640346
could you post the output of lsblk?
what did you use to mout it? have you tried sudo mount -o ro /dev/sdX# /media/anon/
>>53640391
Thanks, I'll probably grab multi-arch though just in case
>>53640319
ntfs read support is in-kernel (technically the in-kernel driver has experimental write support, but most users shouldn't be using it)
for solid write support, use the ntfs-3g FUSE driver
>>53640319
maybe your file manager is configured not to show internal volumes
just because it doesn't show up there doesn't mean it's not supported
Would there be a problem with me mounting my NTFS Windows partition as my /home partition?
How come there's no way to get the current keyboard layout for X?
setxkbmap can print the available layouts, but not the currently active one.
I found xkblayout-state, but I'd rather not rely on an external utility.
xset -q can tell me that it has changed, but apparently if you have more than 3 layouts it becomes useless.
Am I out of luck? How do desktop environments keep track of it?
>>53640639
yes, don't do this to yourself, just make a shared partition for stuff you need it for.
![dvd_snapshot_00.02.03_[2016.02.11_02.25.39].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uOF8ID3.jpg "dvd snapshot 00.02.03 [2016.02.11 02.25.39]")
Is Debian netinstal the best way for a retard to install it
>>53640754
yes, netinstall is the best way to install debian.
>>53640639
Yes, NTFS is a shit file system that needs Windows to defragment it as it writes, if you write to it with linux more than a little it's going to shit itself.
![Aguirre.the.Wrath.of.God.1972.PROPER.1080p.BluRay.x264-PHOBOS.mkv_snapshot_00.47.17_[2016.02.09_11.15.35].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LpohutL.jpg "Aguirre.the.Wrath.of.God.1972.PROPER.1080p.BluRay.x264-PHOBOS.mkv snapshot 00.47.17 [2016.02.09 11.15.35]")
>>53640855
But I have 16TB of shit in NTFS hard drives.
How the fuck do I change the file system without formatting the disks and losing the data
Fucking GIGA YIKES going here lad
How can I view disks I haven't mounted yet?
My esata controller shows up correctly using lspci but the disks don't show.
>>53640869
Well you can comfortably read that shit, just don't write. The only way to convert would be to get another drive and start shuffling.
What is a good SIP-Client that works well together with a FritzBox.
I just tried to get things to work with Ekiga but it just doesn't werk. Any recommendations?
>>53640899
Holy fucking fuck balls Jesus Dear Lord Mary Christ fucking wet himself in face of danger
How can I make extra sure that I don't write, there's a ticker in the folder options that removes 'writing permissions' from any user except admin?
>>53640918
Writing isn't going to blow up your data, it's not dangerous, it just will result in fragmentation eventually and if you keep doing it the disk will practically brick. Don't worry too much about it, if they're drives you don't plan to write to much because they just have media stored and you're not adding more you can leave them.
>>53640918
>How can I make extra sure that I don't write
Mount the drive read-only.
>>53640937
They're WD Reds and they're in heavy use daily.
Guess I'm fucking fucked unless I like
buy two WD Reds
make them ext?
Move files from the NTFS WD Reds to the EXT ones
reformat the two old ones
>>53640956
How do I make sure of that? Is it just a check box or do I need some terminal knowledge of which I have none?
>>53640913
TOX or Jitsi? maybe linphone
>>53640963
Sure why do you need two though, are they RAID0?
What kind of use are you hitting them with in a desktop situation?
BTRFS is the new cool kid though desu.
>>53640963
>How do I make sure of that? Is it just a check box or do I need some terminal knowledge of which I have none?
You could do it in terminal, but you don't have to. Open your disk utility program (there should be one unless it's a minimal install) and go to wherever you can enter mount options for the relevant drivers. There may be a line for the mount options where you have to enter it yourself, so the only thing you really need to know is what the option is called. I believe it's "ro" but do double-check that.
>>53641002
They're in daily use through music and film streaming over the house, that's why they're Reds, in fact I think they're Red Pros.
Streaming, then writing to them too (downloads)
![Steve.Jobs.2015.1080p.BluRay.REMUX.AVC.DTS-HD.MA.5.1-ToPK3K.mkv_snapshot_01.07.43_[2016.02.07_20.42.17].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UOwnEpe.jpg "Steve.Jobs.2015.1080p.BluRay.REMUX.AVC.DTS-HD.MA.5.1-ToPK3K.mkv snapshot 01.07.43 [2016.02.07 20.42.17]")
>>53641018
Say I have one of the WD Red Pros fragmented, a bit. Enough that I should defrag it - should I do it now in Wangblows 10 or install Deb and then defrag it with Debian's disk management tools?
>>53641002
During Debian netinstal is there option to format my main drive, SSD, and use BTRFS?
>>53637056
While your enthusiasm for the Linux operating system is laudable, you are showing a lack of basic knowledge that is unsuitable for this thread. You are referring to Linux as GNU/Linux. That is incorrect.
>>53641026
While I believe (n.b. I'm not absolutely certain) there are tools to defrag NTFS partitions in Linux, I've no experience with any of that and can't speak for the quality of any such tools.
>>53641020
I wouldn't call that 'heavy' but they're in use sure.
Well you have two choices, buy a new disk of the capacity of the largest disk and play shuffle, it doesn't need to be another Red you can get a fucking seagate who cares.
Or leave it doing it's thing because reading is fine and whenever you want to write new shit to it use Windows to do it, maybe a laptop or something that writes to the network or just dual boot. Download to another disk in the meantime.
>>53640878
Anyone?
>>53641044
No clue haven't used debian in a long time, might be, don't see why not.
>>53641071
lsblk
>>53641079
they dont show up over esata. The esata controller shows up under lspci though.
>>53641054
but that's wrong you fucking retard
>>53641044
yes
>>53641064
They're at 40 to 60% in disk use both daily for a 10-12 hours usually.
I'm edging on deleting fucking 16TBs of films, music and other media so I could get this fucking thing done in proper fashion.
Good lord it'd take ages to find this shit with seeds.
Can Wangblows read BTRFS file system(s) if I share a folder in the network (home network so Wangblows machine could stream film over it)
or do I need to setup a server for this?
>>53641198
Just buy a drive and shuffle you fag.
>>53641226
Holy fuck balls it costs so much and I'd need to buy a new case because my MITX has only 4 sluts which are all in use fug
>>53641240
??? You only have to buy one drive and you don't have to use it forever if you really don't want to, just open the case and leave it hanging while you do the move. What are the disk sizes? 4TB maybe? a 4TB cheap disk won't cost much.
>>53641252
I have 2x8tb wd reds both are about 95-97% full
I guess my household will be off media for a 1-2 months
i'm gonna fucking delete the content
rip in pepperoni
>>53641240
To the other Anon, you could even sell the drive afterwards. Makes the expense way less painful, especially if you need two drives for the operation.
>>53641263
Ouch 8TB disks. Rip friend, can't spread it over multiple other disks you have lying around? People's laptops etc.
>>53641263
you can shuffle just with what you have, but it will take a long-ass time
>>53641288
>To the other Anon
Flip. Flip! That was meant to be:
>To echo the other Anon
>>53641198
no torrent list? just export your torrents and redownload everything.
>>53641291
There's not enough HDD space in the household that'd be free. I have two 1TB SSDs but they're both in RAID and work as backup for work stuff.
Two Seagate archival HDDs @8TB would cost something north of 450e together
>>53641297
>, but it will take a long-ass time
Yeah that's why I am giving the files a boot.
>>53641306
nah
>>53641297
>>53641263
Yeah that's true, you could slowly expand a new partition on the disks and move stuff over. Lame at 97% capacity though, doable with like 80%.
sup /flt/
i'm running bunsen on a T61 and recently it developed the problem that older videos on youtube won't play
>an error occurred please try again later
any pointers what to do?
installing lightspark didn't seem to work
i uninstalled flash and that didn't change anything
youtube is set to play using html5 anyways
>>53641215
>Can Wangblows read BTRFS file system(s) if I share a folder in the network (home network so Wangblows machine could stream film over it)
Windows can't read BTRFS
>>53641215
Wangblows can't read anything except NTFS and FAT/FAT32/exFAT
>>53641382
so can I run a virtual machine within Lenux and then defrag the NTFS disks with Windows Disk Management Tool?
>tfw you will never migrate because drivers
>>53641327
yea, i've had to do that a few times
you *can* do it with any amount of free space, but the more the better, the minimum would be if you have over 50% free space, in that case it's just
- resize
- create new >50% partition
- move everything over
- remove original partition
- move new partition to the start
- resize to fill disk
steps are the same otherwise, just repeating more the less free space you have
even if you automate it it will be at least twice as slow as backing up to another disk (again, less space free when you begin = more time overall)
i wouldn't resort to deleting it all, at the very least i'd get under 50% and do the steps once, would save ~4T of redownloading in this case
>>53641388
>>53641392
>>53641382
so I need to host a server?
>>53641400
Sorry I misread your original question. If it's looking at a network share it doesn't have a clue what filesystem it is, it's up to the server to give it in a readable format and linux can do that with samba.
So yeah, server with BTRFS hosting a samba server can be read by windows.
>>53641215
yes you can access btrfs in windows by means of running linux in a vm and sharing it back to the host over samba
>>53641392
yes you can defrag ntfs in linux by running windows in a vm
>>53641371
Post a link to one of the videos, I want to test if it Works on My Machine(tm).
>bunsen
Stop using shitty, niche distributions, which only change the themes while fucking up other things (possibly).
>>53641382
There's actually a Btrfs driver for Windows: https://github.com/maharmstone/btrfs
No one should try it for normal use, obviously. Early development, hideously unstable.
How I control manually my CPU fan in Linux ?
Have ln-sensors and fancontrol but it makes me to setupt thresholds and shit and I just want to put a speed value and get it to work.
Miss Speedfan a lot.
>>53641498
it worked for me so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbUaPgG2h8c
>>53641519
[scared]
So my enthusiasm for linux has kinda dissipated but what a journey it was. Found out my motherboard wasn't on EFI, converted after a 2 hour test run with arch install.
Defaulted to Antergos because why not? Was fun not having a bootloader anywhere near windows.
Although gnome 3 became a cpu hog running 50% of all cores even without addons running.
May try cinnamon next, but lacking inspiration on why I need linux. It was much nicer than using ubuntu though. Thanks /g/
>>53641552
Works for me on Arch with Firefox 45 using ffmpeg as a backend to play HTML5 video. No Flash or whatsoever.
I used Linux at university, but after that windows, because of gaming. Thinking about updating to windows 10 now, which gives me a good excuse for a dual boot.
Question:
Mint or Debian, for someone who kind of knows his way around but hasn't used GNU/Linux in a while? (No thanks, i don't want Amazon Linux)
Windows over Linux or Linux over Windows?
>>53641631
>Windows over Linux or Linux over Windows?
Yes.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntubsd/
Guys, I'm kind of scared.
>>53637056
What is the recommended distro for using propietary drivers / hardware compatibility ?
(Please something that is integrated with KDE)
I have a z97 mobo, and Amd GPU r9 390.
Planning on dumping Windows, for moving it on a vm for gaymen.
I am asuming Kubuntu, but maybe I don't know, Fedora KDE ??
Pls no arch or gentoo. I am not a newfriend but I don't have plenty of time for configurations
>>53641735
FedoraKDE is comfy as fuck
>>53641731
Who's project is this? Canonical making Ubuntu with BSD kernel, or BSD making their own shit with Ubuntu on top?
>>53641735
>recommended distro for using propietary drivers
*buntu
How do I change the window highlighting in bspwm so that it only highlights the edg of the window instead of half of the fucking window, also how can I change the color?
>>53641552
works on iceweasel 46 and works with youtube-dl+mpv
>>53641793
Also pic related is what comes up when I super + ctrl + (h, j, k, l)
>>53641395
>>tfw you will never migrate because drivers
what?>>53641543
>>53641543
pwmconfig should just werk basically.
maybe read https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fan_speed_control
>>53641770
I don't even know.
>>53641613
nice blogpost.
how about you actually use stuff instead of switching between things all the time?
>>53641631
debian if you already know a bit and can read. install windows first if you have to install windows.
>>53641735
>proprietary drivers
>r9 390
you sure you want that? amdgpu works.
What is currently the best (read: freest) live kernel patch/update system for Centos? I"m getting ready to reinstall my server, and one thing I liked about Xubuntu was Ksplice was free.
>>53641735
I'm in the same boat as you but going for Debian.
>>53641735
>>53641876
If Anon plans on having a Windows VM for gaming, then that R9 390 will be unavailable for the Linux system, so it's kind of moot. Unless there's another GPU not mentioned that's intended for the VM, but seems unlikely.
Actually, I'm just assuming Anon has taken PCI passthrough into account here. That's not necessarily the case and they might be on a fool's errand. Do clarify your situation, Anon, are you aware that you can't use your GPU for your host system and the Windows VM? As well as that your hardware needs to support PCI passthrough for the VM to be able to use it at all.
>>53641876
Does amdgpu work for 280x?
OSS drivers work like crap on gnome, proprietary ones are fast but leave artifacts. it's some bullshit.
>>53641949
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Amdgpu
>>53641977
>>53641949
AMD despite Vulkan and Steam focus don¨'t have proper drivers for Linux`?
>>53641977
Guess not.
Oh well, I guess I won't be using linux for a while.
>>53642002
werks on my machine.
but you are basically right, the only gpu manufacturer that actually has proper GPU drivers on GNU/Linux is Intel.
>>53641793
>>53641811
please someone?
>>53642023
not that the others aren't usable though.
How can I access items that would normally go in the system tray if I don't use a bar of any sort?
>>53641912
kpatch
How can I make feh open images not in fullscreen? everytime I click on a picture from my file manager it opens up way zoomed in and it's really annoying, is there any way that I can make it open scaled down by default instead of running a command with arguments to do so every time I want to open a picture cause that's really annoying
>>53642142
it's in its man page [full stop]
My sound card isn't compatible with linux. What is a good linux-compatible card?
>>53642188
the one included in your mobo
>>53642188
Oh yea? Well, I still don't have my system wide audio parametric equalizer
>>53637163
>--no-check-certificate
Fix your shit.
Sorry, im new into this. what can i do?
>>53642294
>Kernel panic
>panic
Try singing it a lullaby to calm it down.
>>53642294
Recompile kernel
>>53641631
> I don't want amazon linux but one of my options is distro based on amazon linux.
Also did you know that actual 15.10 ubuntu spins don't have the amazon tracking thing right? Also did you know that even if you took unity you could still disable that right?
>>53642294
compare downloaded iso's md5sum to the sum on the website.
>inb4 sha256sum
So, I've installed network manager. Do I need to disable netctl and dhcpcd with systemctl to prevent conflicts?
Beginner as hell, I'm trying to think of a script people can run that will tell them if they can reach their default gateway, and spit the info back out at them.
Maybe their IP and gateway addresses with a confirmation or failure message as well.
>>53642408
If you enabled them, yes. Although you shouldn't have both a netctl profile and dhcpcd enable, the netctl profile should be the one to run dhcpcd.
>>53642434
ipaddr+awk/sed
>>53642443
Alright, thanks.
>>53642055
You wouldn't. Try stalonetray, if you want a tray, but not a full taskbar.
Was using Mint with MATE but I didn't like the way it looked and the whole Russian botnet thing so I'm installing Kubuntu right now
I just did a minimal install of debian but I'm a little lost right now setting up openbox. How can I put a battery indicator, time, etc. on a dock somewhere? All my googling has turned up is dead forum posts.
>>53642938
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Openbox
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications
>>53642963
Does this apply to debian?
>>53643030
of course it does
>>53643030
Distro's dont matter,they are the same on which ever distro
Arch is primarly where you will get your infomation at. Bookmark it
What's the best Linux disk encryption software? I'm going to be making a "sometimes-on" file server and I want the contents to be encrypted.
>>53643269
dm-crypt+LUKS
>>53643269
>TL;Dr I'm hosting a Tor cp server
>>53643306
o my kekkers
It's on my work laptop so I'm not dumb enough to pull that shit. I just need to be able to sync shit to my VM.
>>53643273
Is there a way to get /dev/urandom or /dev/random from a remote machine to act like it's a local one so that I can just dd and write a large block of random data from multiple computers to multiple files?
>>53642158
this doesn't help, I want to not have to run feh /path/to/pictures --scale-down every time I want to look at a picture
>>53643348
wat
>>53643432
alias feh=feh noise
>>53643434dd if=192.168.1.2:/dev/urandom of=/tmp/random2 bs=1M count=1024
Is such a thing even possible? Can I just mount nfs and do that?
>>53643460
no
i dont think FSE is what you want.
Check in to encFS and cryptfs
>>53643460
You could use ssh.ssh user@host dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1M count=1024 > /tmp/random2
>>53643497
Holy shit thanks, that makes everything so much easier.
how does mpv handle downmixing from 5.1 source to 2 stereo output[ffmpeg/audio] ac3: frame sync error
Error decoding audio.
>>53642142
If you insist on using feh as standard picture viewer (I like feh, but I wouldn't do this), then you could make your own feh-with-launch-options.desktop file and make that default for opening pictures.
>>53641813
I have 2x3tb drives over esata that i cant get to work on ubuntu
What free as in freedom diary software do you guys recommend? Something that can be easily backed up and used cross-platform would be cool.
>>53644396
a text editor i guess. how about emacs?
you could back it up in an encrypted LUKS container.
>>53644396
>diary software
What even is this?
I want to dual boot Debian 8.3 next to my existing Windows 10 install, leaving Win10 just for incompatible videogames.
I will move everything else (media, data, etc) to my Linux partition, Windows will be literally just for games.
Are there any special precautions I should take apart from backing up my personal data (Already did with File History on an external HDD. But I have a feeling there are better solutions - I need it to be not-Windows-centric since I'm going to be moving the stuff to Linux), or is it just a matter of sticking a boot USB in and partitioning?
I should say, my desktop has an SSD and an HDD, and I ideally want to have just the OS files in the SSD and all my data in the HDD (like I do with Windows). WIn10 is in UEFI mode, so the SSD already has a couple of GPT partitions.
How exactly am I suppose to have the .Xresources settings apply to everything I run without having to run xrdb ~/.Xresources every time manually in the shell I call it from.
I'm trying to have settings apply to the actual terminal emulator - urxvt, and as it is the only way to have the settings apply is to run the xrdb command and to spawn a new terminal.
>>53644396
Leafpad
>>53644578
why not just start it in your .bashrc file
>>53644549
i suggest to shrink a partition from within windows first but other than that you should be good to go.
>>53637056
I plan to switch from windows to linux (ubuntu) what are some things I should know? how do I install drivers etc.?
>>53644614
I tried that, it still means I have to spawn two shells, unless you suggest I put the spawning of the second shell in the .bashrc. I could try that but it feels like aids.
me, >>53644648, again wouldn't trying to terminal in the .bashrc cause a crash from spawning infinite terminals?
>>53644688
tested it, it did
>>53644646
fuck around with ubuntu live on a usb stick to familiarize yourself and see what hardware is and isnt working
Do I need to make partition for ext/swap when installing
I read it is leftover from times when poeple had 4GB of memory and shit
>>53643550
Why would you want to collect urandom though?
>>53644757
No one forces you to use swap, and you could also use a swap file.
Could someone pcpartpicker me an easy to build pc for linux (500 budget)
>>53644578
Do you use a display manager? All of them source that upon login. If not, add it to your .xinitrc.
>>53644929
Do it your self nigga. Use Intel shit as much as possible and you're set.
>inb4 Intel shill
I also dislike the fact that they have their Jewish hands so deep up our asshole they can massage our hearts
>>53644646
you should know that it is not similar to windows in any way, in fact it is more similar to fucking android. otherwise just play with it, it's free as in both freedom and beer so you got nothing to lose other than a few hours of learning useful things. and only install stuff with your package manager for now.
I have Wangblows Machine 10.
I have shared two folders from two HDDs.
I virtualize MATE/Debian/Xubuntu
they can't access 'Windows Network' because of some share list?
How fix?
>>53644943
I don't think I have a display manager, I have awesome which is a window manager form what I understand.
I also found out that if I run urxvt from the Run command it comes out with all the settings in effect, but if I start it with the quickkey (windowkey+return in awesome and ctrl+alt+t in the regular WM) the settings from .Xresources aren't in effect
>>53645014
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1169149
>>53644971
this. intel iGPUs work the best.
intel is a shit company but their drivers are the best.
>>53644929
intel i5 6500 or so, some decent mobo, a cooler, a case, some drives and some decent power supply. it's not hard.
>>53645014
post the error in >>>/g/flt
>>53645027
>>53644943
I also already have xrdb ~/Xresources in .xinitrc
>>53645052
You are on flt nigga
>>53645087
yeah, i thought i was in another thread, sorry.
>>53645052
...you ARE on /flt/.
>>53645093
Lel
>>53645061
Replace your line with this in .xinitrc.[[ -f ~/.Xresources ]] && xrdb -merge -I$HOME ~/.Xresources
>>53645111
I changed it and rebooted,
doesn't change anything,
ctr-alt-t produces terminals without settings
Run:urxvt produces terminals the way i want them
same as before
>>53645027
>windowkey+return in awesome
should work
>>53645028
Man why is this so [spoiler]hard[/spoiler]
>>53645315
Please don't use spoiler tags in /g/. They don't work, you're triggering people, and you're outing yourself as a /v/ poster
>>53644834
It's actually collecting from /dev/hwrng on a bunch of thin clients around the shop (VIA processor). I think it generates around 60 KB/s or something slow like that, so I want to combine them all to speed it up a bit.
>>53645503
I see no problem here
What's up with gvfsd-smb-browse taking up 100% of a single core?
It only goes away if I kill the process.
I'm using Arch.
>>53645503
>>53645523
added black hole for clarity
What is the advantage to having a dedicated /home/ partition?
>>53645658
Girls will like you more.
Does anyone use Ubuntu derived distros with 'high end' monitor like Predator?
I can't get my distro (Xubuntu) to detect my 144hz monitor properly.
Reads 61hz and 1280x1024
I downloaded pretty much everything the OS recommended and yet no work
>>53645700
What if I'm homosexual
>>53645712
Guys will look down upon your asshole more often.
>>53645630
I see the problem. There is a huge gaping black hole in the middle of your screen.
>>53645237
I found a roundabout fix, I just changed the terminal in my rc.lua file by replacing the variable it uses with "urxvt" in the shortcut declarations,
and it works, so fuck figuring out what was wrong.
>>53645028
My Wangblows is in WORKGROUP and I still get this error.
>>53645901
What was it before, xterm?
Can someone make a new thread? I'm phone
>>53646200
Gosh, Anon, that sounds terrible. I hope this shit is not contagious.
Get well soon, okay?
how do I get a tray icon for spotify?
>>53646162
it was a chain of simlinks that lead to /usr/bin/urxvt
weird shit, when I run the simlinks no settings are in effect, when I run the file in /usr/bin/ it comes out like it should
the symlink chain is /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulato >>> /etc/alternatives/x-terminal-emulator >>> /usr/bin/urxvt
Next: >>53646319
>>53646238
>contagious
Nigga, it's obviously a curse, not a disease. Trust me, my great great grandma was a witchdoctor.
>>53646326
(dpt image edition)
>>53646200
phonefags are the worst thing to happen to this board
hashimuro should have split the boards between phone users and regular anons
>>53646388
Phone is great for reading because of the glorious font rendering. I usually don't post from it though because I don't have an internet flatrade for it and can only use it on wifi.
My primary hard drive recently only shows up in bios maybe 20% of my boots, and when it does show up, it either fails at GRUB or booting linux.
Any ideas?
Just installed linux for the first time, what are some must have programs?
