Previously on: >>53622487
Welcome to /flt/, we are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will literally work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
Why do cucks use GNOME when there is Cinnamon?
why my screenfetch -s comand gives
/usr/bin/screenfetch: line 2118: scrot: command not found
[[ ! ]] ERROR: Problem saving screenshot to screenshot to screenFetch-2016-03-22_22-58-19.png
?
also, how do i set xterm to have xterm -rv as a default?
>>53629641
Screenfetch is a shitty program, anon
Just read the source and you might have a good laugh
>>53629641
>>53629688
Also, install scrot, it's a dependency
>>53629641
You don't have scrot installed. Install it from your package manager.
>>53629641
>scrot: command not found
What could it possibly mean?
>>53629641
It says it right there: You need to install scrot to make screenshots with screenfetch.
>also, how do i set xterm to have xterm -rv as a default?
You add/edit your configuation in you ~/.Xresources file.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xterm
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/X_resources
>>53629632
>>53629688
>>53629703
Go back to your /desktop thread/, dumb weeb memer.
Don't try to install XCOM2 from outside of steam. it's a clusterfuck to get it installed. did any of you know what librtmp.so.0 is?
>>53629632
>not being part of the i3/awesomeWM master race
Why even use a DE?
>>53629716
Isn't Pepsi proprietary?
>>53629728
Back to /r/linuxmasterrace, reddit spill
>>53629647
>>53629468
We don't describe free software as an “alternative” to proprietary, because that word presumes all the “alternatives” are legitimate and each additional one makes users better off. In effect, it assumes that free software ought to coexist with software that does not respect users' freedom.
We believe that distribution as free software is the only ethical way to make software available for others to use. The other methods, nonfree software and Service as a Software Substitute subjugate their users. We do not think it is good to offer users those “alternatives” to free software.
>>53629736
>librtmp.so.0
https://www.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=librtmp.so.0
>install Budgie on Arch
>wow it's fucking nothing
>oh wait it recommended downloading all these GNOME packages, whatever
>still boring
>try and edit the taskbar
>accidentally delete bar icons, can't fix bar anymore since I can't get to the options menu
>no fucking right click
>manage to find help box, just a bunch of hotkeys, still can't figure out how edit anything
What the fuck? I'm sure there's some way to do it from console but this has been awful so far. GNOME feels like fucking garbage compared to any other DE I've used so far, KDE may be bloated but at least customization is easy. I think Solus does sound neat but this experience has turned me off of any DE that's meant to emulate or be similar to GNOME..
how do i set xterm to have -rv as a default?
What should i use to copy and paste lines from and into terminal, ctrl+c, ctrl+v isn't working?
Same question qith copying but with vi, how to copy lines to vi editor?
>>53629739
No. It has all four freedoms.
>>53629739
It's not software, it's a soft drink.
>>53629716
>drinking pepsi at a talk
Jesus, no wonder you're so fat RMS. Like 99% of people drink water on stage, regardless of their body type. Pepsi, really?
>>53629831
I drink the fuck what I want, motherfucker.
>In uni
>Elective """"Information Systems""""" class
>Lecturer asks if anyone knows any other OSes than Windows, Mac OS, and Linux
>No one says anything
>>Solaris, Amiga, BSDs,...
>Lecturer implies Amiga is Linux
>15 minutes in
>>Has anyone used Linux before?
>Raise hand
>It's not to bad with the GUI these days, is it?
Should I kill myself?
>>53629849
Amiga <33333
>>53629768
Gnome does enough shit on its own you don't have to blame it for shit done by others.
>>53629849
>first semester at uni
>3rd anual free software lecture
>the guy is using ubuntu+Libre Impress
>libre impress crashes halfway through the lecture
>he begins to take questions from the audience
>I ask him why are the ubuntu repos blacklisted in the university's network
>he tells me that he's not sure because he doesn't teach here and then begins to awkwardly look at some professors sitting in the front row
>>53629849
WARNING UNMATCHED QUOTE AT LINE 2
So many people tell me that WINE runs some games quite nicely. The issue comes with using a PS3 gamepad.
Sure, it's recognized well for native games and such, but the layout is completely fucked when using WINE even on games that do not require an xbox 360 controller. Is there any quick solution to this?
Today at /flt/-TV:
Richard Stallman, interviewed by Matthias Schüssler, in Zurich on February, 9th, of 2016.
Stream:
mpv https://b2aeaa58a57a200320db-8b65b95250e902c437b256b5abf3eac7.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/media_entries/7910/Richard_Stallman_in_Zurich_Full-HD-Version-fkkDvKGcNSo.webm
Audio only Stream:
mpv https://b2aeaa58a57a200320db-8b65b95250e902c437b256b5abf3eac7.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/media_entries/7907/Richard_Stallman_interview_Zurich_160209.opus
>>53629943
install windows you dumb cuck
>>53629964
This is a friendly thread.
>>53629964
I guess I'll have to. I was hoping to get rid of it.
>>53629945
Nice
>>53629993
using linux exclusively as a daily driver is quite simply, unsustainable
just run it in a VM
>>53629943
Does it work better natively on Windows?
>>53630016
Where do you think you are?
>>53630036
no idea t.b.h. i just replied to a funny picture post
but now i see this is the resident freetard general
>>53630036
Well, basically:
On linux: Recognizes it without issues, works well with native games, games on WINE detect the controller like it's drunk (d-pad doesn't work, every face button acts as a direction button, some buttons register as pressing 2 buttons at the same time).
On windows there's no WINE to use but you must install extra software to make it work (SCP drivers). However those are no big deal, and the ps3 controller detected (optionally) as a 360 gamepad so any games a decade old or less work fine right out of the box.
Issue is the operating system though.
>>53630127
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
gonna try arch
which desktop environment is nicest? I've only really messed around with gnome and kde plasma.
Is there a page somewhere that compares and contrasts them? What are your opinions on different desktop environments?
>>53630174
>arch/de
Dont that breaks the whole point.
Find a WM you like and install the software you like on it
>>53629771
ctrl+shift+c
ctrl+shift+v
Uppercase V to select the lines you want, press y to yank(copy) and then p to paste
>>53630174
It's personal preference. I personally prefer i3 with no DE. I don't see the point in installing all of the programs that are bundled with a DE that I will never use. If I had to pick a DE though it'd probably be cinnamon or xfce.
>>53630127
Did you try configuring your controller in wine?
So I never got this clear:
Do schedulers and filesystems have any effect on speed when it comes to using an SSD on any distro?
For instance, using deadline instead of cfq or btrfs instead of ext4.
>>53630270
Tried checking the controller config from control panel through wine, it detected it as a gamepad with about 30 buttons, which was nuts
Some games I tried don't have the option to change controller settings sadly, other than inverting camera controls and such. I couldn't get x360ce to work which I could use for that purpose as well.
>>53629507
fagg0ts fail to provide a USB option
>i will never use Linux
>>53630401
What are you trying to say?
>>53630401
>USB option
OMG truuuuuu xD xD
>>53629641
Look for neofetch. Its in the aur and on github. Way better.
I wan't to install kubuntu on my shitty laptop. It has a touchscreen, and the keyboard is usb: will everything work out of the box? Also it only has an sd card reader, can I install it from there?
>>53630520
If it's a shitty laptop, depending on the degree of shittiness, you might be better off installing a lighter distro like Xubuntu
>>53629945
Ever time.
- slurping tea
- hand lotion
>>53630520
>will everything work out of the box?
Unless you know all the firmware you need by heart the only way to find out is by trying it.
How are free drivers made? Since there seems to be a huge lack of them, it would be a good idea to create them, but where to start?
Can someone give me ONE good reason for the existence of Clang?
>>53630677
Oh god it gets worse.strip world-gcc ; strip world-clang
4400 world-gcc
4416 world-clang
Why would anyone ever use Clang if it makes binaries so bloated?
>>53630676
if the manufacturers fail to provide documentation (like nvidia) the people making them have to reverse engineer the drivers.
this could help you. good luck.
http://althing.cs.dartmouth.edu/local/www.acm.uiuc.edu/sigmil/RevEng/
>>53630726
Thank you.
>>53630677
companies (like apple) often don't like the GPL because it keeps them from making stuff proprietary. this is why clang exists.
Why I do keep jumping from distro to distro trying so many out
I think it has become a game, somehow
I can't really decide which one I should use for my school Thinkpad.
>>53630677
What are you even comparing here?
>>53630755
you'll keep doing this until you understand that all of them are basically the same anyway. just pick a project and community you like for philosophical and technical reasons and go with one of their branches.
>>53630792
The size of the binaries produced by Clang and GCC from the same source code.
Clang's result is noticeably larger, even with more optimization flags.
>>53629507
This car he is using uses free software?
>>53630755
Using them in VMs will not serve you well because your Thinkpad hardware is obviously different. You have to try each one of them in your Thinkpad to see which one works best in it.
>>53630755
Oldfag here (when it comes to distro hopping), let me tell you: At the end, you'll realize that the only interesting things are package managers and what's in the repos. You could use 1000 different distros, but still miss that they all are basically the same thing, using different, preinstalled software like DEs.
I suggest to decide between plain distros like Debian, Arch (or the free Parabola), etc, since you can install on them everything you want. You want Arch with KDE? Just install it, you want Ubuntu with a tiling WM? Just install Debian, the base of Ubuntu and the desired WM.
tl;dr every distro is the same GNU/Linux core, only the preinstalled and available packages differ - get the bases, ditch the derviants.
>>53630755
>Chakra 2016.02 "Ian"
>"Ian"
So cute.
>>53630878
r.i.p.
>>53630676
When a girl driver and a boy driver like each other very much ...
>>53630878
>>53630894
Do we finally know more like just the official "he passed" debian blog statement? It's really creepy, the guy vanished, nobody knows how, why, when and what the fuck happend. His tweets may assume suicide, but that's not confirmed by any source, next to this, he tweeted that he wants to get some message around on his blog, these message never appeared. He just vanished.
>>53630926
>>53630805
No idea why you'd care about size so much, but you won't really get much of a result with those few lines of code. You need a bigger project.
>>53630846
>Arch (or the free Parabola),
It is literally free
you CHOOSE what to install from a BASE enviornment.
>>53630991
But Arch doesn't come with a deblobbed, free kernel.
>>53631039
You can easily install one.
>>53631047
You can, but that doesn't make Arch by default a literally free distro.
>>53631039
You're more then welcome to create your own kernel with only the exact hardware loaded from your computer,i have done so and applied various patches to custmize it to the way i want it.
I dont think you are ready for linux yet
>>53630192
YOu're an idiot and it doesn't go against the point. The point is to make it whatever you want.
>>53631039
What prevents you from adding your kernel to the usb boot and installing it from the git go?
>>53631079
Nothing, but that's not the point. Arch has the two usual problems: there's no clear policy about what software can be included, and nonfree blobs are shipped with their kernel, Linux. Arch also has no policy about not distributing nonfree software through their normal channels.
>>53631039
I dont think you quite understand what you are staying. The arch kernel is montolithic by default.
Parabola cant limit it so far that it cuts out support. It may have less modules,but to support a wide variety,it is still going to include legacy support and have a monolithic-equse setup.
Either way compile your own kernel like any sain person
>>53630930
He wrote a script to send the real history to the news hours after he passed, but the feds shutdown his machine.
>>53631117
>Arch
>Bitching about not being limited in installing software i fucking want to run on my fucking computer,to do things fucking want to do.
Are you really this retarded,does mommy check your browsing history too?
Is stalin over your shoulder or some shit?
>>53631117
Archs policy is to stay close to upstream.
Take your beef about blobs to them, not some distro using it.
And libre options are in the AUR
>>53631150
I dont think you quite understand what you are staying. Adding a different kernel is the users choice. That fact does still not make Arch a complete free distro, because by adding libre kernel, you have modified it. At this point, only your very own Arch install is free, which is redundant.
>>53631231
So if you buy a stock 2016 car,you should never repair it or features to it(no powered windows,no a/c,no tinted windows,no radio,mp3 port,cd player)
RIght?
This sounds logical to you?
>isnt free
Install the software you want and take your rms fallacies up your ass
>>53631282
Nice strawman, fellow memer.
>>53631314
>>53631282
You're actling like I said "dont install arch, it is nonfree, eats your childrem and rapes your dog". I just pointed out the problems that make Arch by DEFAULT a not completely free distro. I never said nobody should use it and/or change it.
>>53631362
see >>53631314
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
>>53630755
>Parabola recently found a serious freedom problem with VirtualBox in which a non-free compiler is needed.
>It appears that upstream is not interested in fixing this.
>Parabola has removed VirtualBox from their repositories. I understand that Trisquel and other distros will be too.
>So, just an FYI in case people wonder why it disappeared from the repository.
The irony...
>>53631444
kek
>>53631506
>>53631519
Fuck off, we don't need anime posting, nor tripfagging here.
>>53630846
You just want Ubuntu with Debian?
Use ubuntu mini is and select your own pacakges.
It provides an automated installer and the huge package library support, why go trough Debian hassle?
>>53631541
>no anime
>is on anime website
So getting Bioshock Infinite to work on arch seems pretty hopeless at this point, but goddammit I payed for it so I might as well install another OS to play it.
What is reliable for Steam gaming, but also is fun to try? I was thinking Kubuntu, since I've never tried KDE.
what extensions/programs do i need to make GNOME more usable? is there some cheatsheet wallpaper or so for it?
Do you guys actually read the man pages?
>>53631696
skim mostly, but yeah. I use man often.
>>53630177
yes
>>53631696
if i want to learn how to use the program, yes.
>>53631686
>extensions
Just flip through some pages on extensions.gnome.org. You're bound to find a few extensions you'll like. Also remember to make a search if you ever think "I would like this kind of functionality".
>programs
For Gnome specifically, just gnome-tweak-tool.
>>53631696
Not from top to bottom. Just the relevant parts the situation calls for.
>>53631664
*buntu and debian work pretty reliable with steam. test a DE you didn't use before.
>>53631758
thanks
>>53631664
>paid for bioshock infinite
the word "friendly" in the op isn't enough to protect you from me calling you a massive retard
How shitty is it to run Ubuntu off a SD card?
I either have the choice of just putting grub onto the SD card and then point to the SSD or install it all on the SD and use the SSD for something else.
How hard is it to have grub point to a different drive? Never done this on looniks.
>>53631893
the ssd will be much faster
it's no trouble at all to use grub to boot from another drive
>>53631696
Every single day. Reading a manpage once isn't enough.
Is there any situation, where using "more" is more efficient when using "less"?
>>53631696
of course
not the whole thing every time, but when i need to do a certain task and i don't know how/have forgotten/just want to see what is available, i read them
>>53631893
Why can't you put Grub on the SSD?
Holy shit I just went through the stupidest fucking endeavour.
>Install Lubuntu on sister's ancient netbook because her Win7 was awfully slow and full of malware
>Everything goes well, restore her personal stuff
>"but anon, can I use chrome instead of firefox please?"
>"Sure why not"
>Find out Chrome has been discontinued for 32bit Linux
>"Well, we can try Chromium, you won't notice a difference"
>"okay"
>install chromium, everything goes fine for a while
>suddenly: "anon, it says here I don't have flash (when she tried to watch some korean dramas)"
>"Huh, I marked it in the Lubuntu installation. Let's see"
>Google dozens and dozens of solutions to get chromium to detect flash, most of them out-dated because the package it used is deprecated
>Try the more recent ones
>Chromium never detects flash
>Spend an hour and a half on this
>She notices my face of frustration and disbelief
>"it's okay anon, i'll just learn to use firefox"
>"PHEW, okay, yeah, I can't figure this out"
>Go back to Firefox, test flash
>error messages
>FUCK
>the packages i installed for the chromium solutions broke flash for firefox
>go uninstall them and reinstall the official flash plugin
>it works
Fucking finally, jesus christ. What the hell's up with Chromium, I've never even bothered using it before, jesus christ
/blog
>>53631993
>>53632103
Because HP.
It's a microserver so the SSD is connected to the ODD sata port which doesn't let you boot from it if there are derives attached to sata 0-3 while in AHCI mode.
Trick is to install windows/Linux normally to SSD, write bootloader to SD card and point it to the OS on the SSD.
Either way I think it would be okay to run it off an SD card. It's just for plex, FTP, smb and a few other things, I don't see it causing a lot of reads/writes after its all setup and booted.
>>53632133
And all you ever had to do was apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree.
Please don't hit yourself too hard, I don't want blood on my fingertips.
>>53632061
My jizz on your mom's face
>>53632201
It didn't work. Trust me, it was one of the first few I tried.
>>53632133
post sister
>>53632133
Bullshit. Chrome is just not available in the official repos, idiot.
>>53632222
http://betanews.com/2015/11/30/google-killing-chrome-for-32-bit-linux/
It already happened anon
>>53632209
Sounds like you must've messed up something up to that point, then.
Oh well, at least it sort of worked out in the end.
>>53632173
yea, that kind of setup won't demand much from the root filesystem, provided at least plex's data is on the ssd (if plex server is anything like emby, it will want to cache things like show/movie graphics, which will be served much slower from an sd card)% du -sh /var/lib/emby/
1.7G /var/lib/emby/
that said, these things can selectively be moved to the ssd, without having to put the whole root on the ssd
>>53632213
fuck off
>>53632209
That shit can work with firefox, how can it not work with chromium?
>>53632222
You can only download 64 bit Linux Chrome now, not 32 bit.
And if you get it from somewhere else it won't be receiving any more support
I think he knows it's not available on the official distros
>>53632264
*official repos sorry
>>53632244
Resistance is futile
>>53632247
>>53632234
I've no idea how I could have messed up. Followed instructions to the letter and it just never showed up in the plugins folder for Chromium
For firefox it was literal plug and play, since the official adobe flash plugin got installed when I checked the box during Lubuntu's installation. For Chromium it just wouldn't let itself for some reason
I may be over thinking this, but is getting a comprehensive backup seriously as simple as having a cronjob mount a snapshot of the pertinent filesystems then dding it to some NFS location?
Best Tox client?
Has anyone succeeded in getting Bumblebee working on the T420? I can't get the damned thing to identify the fact that there is a dGPU installed even though I had it working under Windows 7 previously
>>53632133
>i'll just learn to use firefox"
your sister is nice
>>53632237
Thanks mang. If I figure out how to put it all on the SSD then I will. I'm not too familiar yet with the whole structure to start moving shit about. I think I want to keep it simple for now.
Also how safe is it to read a backup from an ntfs file system under Linux? I would mount it as read only but still wonder if there could be any issues. I'm planning on using ext4 btw.
>>53632356
ntfs is as efficient under linux (as in, slower and more cpu usage)
but besides that it's pretty rock solid even with read/write
naturally, when using read-only there's zero chance of damage
>>53632390
isn't* as efficient
somehow my mpv windows are borderless, how do i get borders for this?
>>53632327
qtox
Memes aside, can someone explain to me what dangers a Linux Mint user faces as compared to someone using some Ubuntu flavor?
I installed it on my dad's laptop, and I'd just like to know the old man's stuff will be reasonably safe.
>>53632422
How horrifying. I'm not chastising you, to each their own and all that, but why do you want window borders?
Check if you have no-border in your config. I added that in mine because I didn't want any useless decorations getting in the way when I just want the video playing in the corner of my screen.
>>53632590
i want to be able to resize the window so i can tile it to a screen corner and set it to stay on top of other windows, this somehow doesn't work without window borders.
>>53632390
>>53632356
Linux is the name of the kernel that Linus Torvalds developed starting in 1991. The operating system in which Linux is used is basically GNU with Linux added. To call the whole system “Linux” is both unfair and confusing. Please call the complete system GNU/Linux, both to give the GNU Project credit and to distinguish the whole system from the kernel alone.
I have a shitty esata card that has drivers for ubuntu up to 12.10 but i'm running 14.04. will it werk? How does linux version mismatched drivers?
>>53632497
Youre good man. AFAIK Mint doesnt add/remove any security features. Only thing is proprietary stuff (May contain backdoors).
>>53632623
yea, i'll start taking that seriously when they get off their fat ass and produce a functioning os without the "crutch" of an actual kernel.
>>53632620
That is one sorry window manager you have there, friend. You can't resize the window by holding Super or Alt plus right-click either?
>>53632623
I know I'm replying to a joke post, but still. I feel kind of bad for GNU because the name GNU/Linux would just never catch on. I'm very appreciative of their work but I just can't say GNU/Linux and expect to be taken seriously, lest people think I'm a walking meme/pretentious asshole
>>53632658
But they did anon.
>what is GNU plus GNU Linux-libre
How can I play muh anime DVDs on linux?
>>53632674
>Super plus right click
thanks, this is what i was searching for
>>53632694
open them in mpv
>>53632679
It's not a joke post. The interjection pasta is also not a meme; these are actual facts. Linux is just a kernel; useless by it's own and >>53632694 not able to play anime DVDs.
>>53632694
Install mpv.
Hello, /flt/. I want to switch to GNU/Linux, but I care about >muh vidya. Should I just stick to Windows 7? Also, are finding and installing drivers a pain in the ass on GNU/Linux? Lastly, what distribution should I use? Based on this chart, I've narrowed it down to the following:
>Ubuntu
>Elementary OS
>Mint
Please and thank you for helping.
>>53632738
dual-boot and only use wangblows for vidya. installing drivers and other software is really easy if your device is supported (most stuff is).
just try xubuntu or ubuntu gnome some time and do stuff with it.
>>53632738
>>muh vidya
Get Ubuntu, best support for nonfree drivers.
Set up a VM with passthrough, so you can use your hardware and you woun't feel any difference. Most games also run on WINE with actually better experience and more FPS than on Wangblows.
>>53632719
>thanks, this is what i was searching for
I always forget that people with no prior experience won't know about this basic functionality until they stumble upon it. This was a good reminder of that.
>>53632777
>dual-boot
There's no reason to install GNU/Linux when people are going to infect their computer with Windows at the same time.
>>53632728
I know it's a fact, but it's also a commonly known joke.
>>53632738
Do you use Steam for a lot of your vidya? If so, I recommend you do this:
>Install VirtualBox
>Install some flavor of Ubuntu (GNOME is my favorite) or Mint
>Install Steam in said distro
>Log in to your account
>Check which games will be available to you out of the box (because there are many already)
>If you are willing to make do with this selection, and feel comfortable trying out Linux, then by all means switch completely. Drivers shouldn't be much of an issue on flavors/derivatives of Ubuntu (Mint is a derivative of Ubuntu).
>If you see a lot of games that are still not available for Linux in your library, then you might want to consider dual booting. Use your Win7 exclusively for vidya, use Linux for everything else
>>53632728
>>53632719
I was going to do that but it wont mount the DVD, I'm using Debian.
>>53632781
>Get Ubuntu, best support for nonfree drivers
>16.04 dropping support for nonfree AMD drivers
>>53632636
Anyone?
>>53632818
There are shitloads of PPAs.
>>53632798
i think encouraging change rather than forcing to be strict from the start is the best working way to get people to use free software for everything.
>>53632728
>>53632719
Forgot photo
>>53632835
this
>>53632818
>>16.04 dropping support for nonfree AMD drivers
and this is an issue for reasonably new cards how?
What reasons could you come up with for a not-brand-new (but also not intermediate or advanced) user to use Debian Stable/Testing over Ubuntu GNOME?
Sell me (or convince me otherwise)
>>53632835
Ofc you're right here, but there are better ways, like learning in a VM or using a second computer or drive for Windows or GNU/Linux.
I woun't recomment dualbooting for a first experience since the users mostly aren't even sure if they want to use distro XY for the next half year, next to the security issues.
>>53632897
Getting away from Shuttleworth.
Honestly the only reason I can think of that could apply to a general user on the desktop.
>>53632897
>>Sell me (or convince me otherwise)
no i won't
do whatever you like, just remember that there are a lot of people that choose distros that are not *based on.
>Sabayon still exists
how
So, looking at the OS picker flowchart on the "Babby's first linux" page, I notice there are some really specialized distros for things like gaming and media creation.
Is there any benefit to using one of those specific distros over just installing a broader one and downloading the specific programs? (Aside from not needing to download those programs.) I'm asking just for the sake of curiosity - not about to download one myself.
>>53632843mpv dvd://
Has RMS actually ever said his pasta?
>>53633056
Yes. Thousand times in his speeches and here: <https://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html>.
What do you guys think of Antergos and Chakra?
>>53631696
>currentyear
>still using `man`
>>53633424
arch based so it's shit
>>53633509
info is pretty cool but for stuff that is not a gnu package man is just more handy.
https://twitter.com/d_olex/status/602823348272246785/
What do.
>>53633660
wait for the fix.
>>53631696
I learn how to do something better if I pour through man pages trying to understand which switches do what. On that note, I've never read the manpages for tar, and still just guess the switches for it.
>>53633750
>2016
>using tar
>not using 7za
>>53633750
doesn't tar -xf always work for extracting?
>>53633778
7z doesn't store permissions, newfag.
>>53633824
Would assume so. Pretty sure the string I use on the off chance I actually have to extract a tarball eventually includes x and f.
>>53633854
The 7z filetype doesn't, posixfag, but 7za itself has no issues with permissions when reading/writing other file types.
>>53633865
>filetype
You don't even know what you're talking about. Please stop posting.
>>53633950
Posixfags, everyone.
I'm currently using Ubuntu and I'm gonna be getting a new laptop. It's just a cheap one from Walmart, so odds are it's gonna have windows 10. I'm wondering if there's any other better versions of Linux besides Ubuntu that are good for a non-programmer (I know zero code), but still have a strong focus on privacy and that aspect of "freedom". Or is scrub friendly and free mutually exclusive?
>>53629507
When is wayland going to happen? I tried enlightenment but it was too buggy to be useful.
>>53634031
Fddora is pretty security and privacy oriented while staying relatively easy to use.
>>53634048
Using it right now with gnome. It's still a bit unstable but it works.
>>53634160
cool! now ants can have a free software savior.
can anybody help me out? apparently this is wrong, I've tried it before and I end up stuck with 1360x760 resolution.
I have two gt 750m cards
>>53631686
May I recommend Activities Configurator, and Dash to Dock extensions?
>>53629507
Alright, I know I'm a complete idiot for not being able to do this correctly, but I'm having trouble doing a live USB of OpenSUSE on Mac OS X
I'm on a Macbook Pro, '15, and I've downloaded the openSUSE iso. I'm trying to format the SD card (I tried using a USB but it doesn't work either), and after waiting for a while after doing the "sudo dd if=/pathtoiso.iso of=/dev/rdisk1 bs=4k" command on terminal, I get an error with the prompt saying "The disk you inserted was not readable"
So is it because the openSUSE not a dmg file? I've converted the iso to dmg and am currently running the above command on terminal (I'll update if anything else happens), but I'd like to know if it's something else... Thanks in advance!
How can I assign a GUI shortcut to make CTRL+N create a new directory?
>>53634420
Well, I was wrong, it's even worse than it was last time
QUICK
ARCH WITH PLASMA CINNAMON OR XFCE
>>53634781
in what
>>53634784
ah yes, and that lovely win95 shading there for the background of fucking everything.
>>53634826
my DE is xfce and my WM is Xfwm4 and I'm running Debian.
>>53634784
>>53634834
Dunno what you're on about mate, what's the question?
>>53634851
Inside your file manager you mean?
>>53634870
yeah
>>53634898
And which file manager do you use?
>>53634784
xrandr | fgrep '*'
>>53634820
Bad Dragon dildos.
So, how to correctly setup TOR on Debian?
Is there a guide?
Every time I see a picture of Stallman I can't help but wonder why he hasn't applied to become a sovereign citizen, what with muh freedoms and all.
>>53634898
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Thunar#Custom_actions
>>53632497
mint never updates the kernel, ever.
>>53634853
I switched from Nouveau to nvidia to attempt to actually be able to use my graphics cards (am getting ~5fps in xcom when I was getting 60+ in windows)
I'm sure you can see the problem with the system settings shading there. Also for some reason I can't use most of my screen space because apparently parts of my system think I have a 960x540 display and other parts think I have a 1080p display. Note how fucking huge and aliased most everything is, and how the tab portion of firefox is about an inch thick.
>>53634910
1920x1080 59.9*+
for some reason this thinks it's 1080, but the display sure isn't acting like it.
pic related
>>53634983
That looks unusable, I hope you get it fixed soon
>>53634983
Not sure but, Google:kdmr server settings. I had the same issue,but I quit using KDE shortly after fixing it and can't remember the details.
ok, so ijust intalled Xubuntu on my thinkpad and first thing i do its to go to youtube to see a video.
Its laggy and out of sync´
Install Flash and goodies
Still laggy and out of sync.
what the hell i am supose to do?
>mfw all filemanger for linux are a buggy mess
>>53635185
Filemanagers are not good to manage files anyway. Use the terminal like a man.
>>53629703
>scrot
Am I the only one who's inmature enough to laught at the word scrot?
c'mon guys.
>>53635230
that's what I have resorted to since all file managers are shit. Having to manually mount and unmount devices kinda gets on my nerves though
>>53634919
But which one? Choosing a DE is bad enough, and the number of dragon dildos on the market is absurd.
>>53635254
How come that I've never seen a good post by a tripfag ever?
>>53635263
Just create aliases for these things.
Also have a look into prename. A really powerful tool (when you know a little bit RegEx).
>>53635373
b-but I love you anon-kun
>>53635254
>>53635412
>>53635412
please stop, we're all worried about your mental health.
So, which is a best setup for Arch Linux in a laptop?
I currently have GNOME but I don't dig it at all.
I also have a doubt about my /home partition. Am I supposed to mount it all the time? Are packages automatically installed there or else, how do I install stuff there (is it even possible?) ? Or is that partition just for miscellanous files? Am I doing it right?
>>53635449
>GNOME on Arch
lmao my man
>>53635449
>So, which is a best setup for Arch Linux in a laptop?
Definly not a DE.
>>53629846
I don't know why i lose it when i see this picture. I just die from laughter
>>53635458
Yeah, I know it sucks. It's just temporary. I needed some kind of visual support and it was the easiest thing to install.
>>53635449
home is where a lot of user specific configuration files are stored so really it should be mounted at all times. it is possible to install software there but don't, let pacman/makepkg handle that stuff.
I want to shrink my home partition and expand root. Can I move my home back without fucking everything up? Do I just update grub.cfg afterwards?
>>53635528
did you partition with LVM? If yes, then you can but there may be data loss so backup.
if not, reinstall.
>>53635263
install udevil, done.
What are the best alternatives for email to, say, Gmail?
Things short of setting up my own email server, I mean.
>>53635669
https://mail.protonmail.com/create/new
>>53634048
Within a year now that nvidia supports it
>>53635425
I like having to mind what I say, it prevents me from being a dick. Trust me, I need help on that matter.
>>53635427
I love everyone on this planet.
>>53634983
I fixed it! it was a dpi issue
apparently that shading is just the way kde does things, does anybody know how to fix it?
>>53635657
that doesnt work for mtp devices tho
>>53635863
yes, it can.
Antergos anon here,
>having issues with ethernet connection being recognised.
So, after a bit of research, I've discovered my connectivity problem is almost definitely an issue with Realtek drivers.
from lspci -v, I've learned the kernal driver and modules in use is/are 'r8169'. Gooble suggests it should be 'r8168'.
dmesg | grep r8168 reveals nothing - but r8169 returns the following.
r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver 2.3LK-NAPI loaded
r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: RTL8168b/8111b at 0xffffc900003be000, 00:21:97:9c:5a:68, XID 1800000000 IRQ 26
r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: jumbo features [frames: 4080 bytes, tx checksumming: ko]
r8169 0000:02:00.0 ens33: renamed from eth0
r8169 0000:02:00.0 ens33: link down
r8169 0000:02:00.0 ens33: link down
So, I've downloaded the most recent drivers from the Realtek website, put the tar on the system via usb, and I am having trouble 'installing' the driver and ensuring the other is blacklisted.
Is what I'm describing the correct course of action, and could somebody please explain to me where I go from here?
>>53635604
That sucks, oh well going to try it with gparted real quick, I don't have any data since I just use my ssd to boot. I didn't know how big my root should be, installed a bunch of programs and suddenly have no room.
>>53629716
Pepsi confirmed for freest soft-drink.
>>53635906
just tried it right now. I don't see it anywhere
>>53636079
Did you read the conf?
Everytime I open up a new terminal in Ubuntu, the very first line is "-bash: /home/MY_NAME/.rvm/scrips/rvm: No such file or directory"
Is there a way to keep this error from appearing? Do I just need to uninstall and reinstall rvm?
So I've been reading what people on /g/ have been saying about Mint very seldomly upgrading its kernel by default
So I went and enabled "always show security updates" in the update manager, and these two show up.
However, when executinguname -a
on the terminal, it tells me my kernel is version 3.16.0-38. So what gives? Why is the update manager offering the "Dangerous" (Level 5) update to 3.13?
I'm sorry if this is kind of a dumb question. I'm a novice user
>>53636195
>scrips
a spelling mistake maybe? check the actual file location and your .profile
Does anyone know of anything like this that also shows large individual files? I'm having a devil of a time deciding what to delete and such a tool would come in handy.
>>53635982
Hey it worked! I just generated a new fstab and grub.cfg and it appears to work fine.Looking at my /home .cfg files and nothing appears to be out of order yet. Woo glad I didn't have to reinstall arch again.
>>53636089
what conf are you talking about? I've read the help for devmon and couldnt see anything regarding a conf file
