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Welcome to /flt/, we are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will literally work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
first for rms is a demigod
What distros would you recommend for a newbie and is it better a open source video driver than a propietary for a relative new pc?
>>53615358
>What distros would you recommend for a newbie
Ubuntu.
>and is it better a open source video driver than a propietary for a relative new pc?
If there's a free driver, ofc the free one, but if not, you need to use the propietary.
>>53615232
In Debian,
Aptitude or Apt-Get?
I've been told I need to stick with one
>>53615358
read https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
and decide for yourself
intel open drivers>nvidia proprietary drivers>amd open drivers~amd proprietary drivers>>>>>>>>>>>noveau
>>53615394
aptitude
>>53615390
Thank you, man.
Another question, is ubuntu mate good for start?
>>53615394
You should stick to one. Which one is your choice. The problem is that apt and aptitude keep track of the installed packages differently. Means: When you remove a package via apt, aptitude still thinks it's installed. This can lead to problems.
I personally prefer apt, since it's lightweight compared to aptitude.
>>53615404
Thank you too.
>>53615439
Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu GNOME, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, and Xubuntu are all the exact same operating system. The only difference is the desktop environment (how it looks)
And how it looks out of those is your personal preference. Use the one you like the best.
>different .isos for different DE's
Why is this a thing?
>>53615505
Because not everything is a netinstall
>>53615505
Because when you install a DE manually, you get the plain DE, without the distro's patches, additions, themes, etc.
>>53615472
Why are these all different things if there's just a slight difference in configuration, isn't it better to have a blank system which lets you choose your desktop config through the GUI installer?
Is it better to run older kernel for old hardware? For compatibility issues of course
>>53615553
not necessarily if you compile it bloat-free.
>>53615558
Yeah I understand, but from a user point of it's the difference of having to choose between distro A-A to A-F, or choosing which desktop env you want during install time. It's just a matter of installing packages right?
>>53615625
point of view**
>>53615537
Not necessarily true. Take Ubuntu for example: there's the cinnamon package ("innovative and comfortable desktop") as well as the cinnamon-desktop-environment meta package ("Cinnamon desktop environment - full desktop with extra components").
>>53615515
That makes sense I guess. I was just looking at Korora and it had 5 different versions depending on which DE you you wanted, it just seemed completely unnecessary.
Help me choose. Debian stable, testing or unstable.
In terms of security , how does testing hold up compared to stable?
I'm fairly(well, a bit) used to Arch, so I'm not sure how I would deal with the really old software.
I'm moving to Debian from Mint.
Do I have to use "sudo" or some equivalent to install things with aptitude as root here?
I'm just afraid I'm about to overstep my boundaries and liable to break things if I install shit as root.
Tried to install guake withaptitude install guake
and I getE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: permission denied)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
>>53615712
if you are used to arch already just use unstable.
>>53615712
If you like the bleeding edge aspect of Arch, go unstable. Follow the proper way of installing it though.
If you weren't such a huge fan of it, then go testing
If you want to kick back and relax a bit, stay with stable.
>>53615748
if you don't specify a root password during install you will have sudo preconfigured. this way you need to install and configure sudo manually.
https://wiki.debian.org/sudo
>>53615757
I'm not sure if I want something more unstable though yet. I plan to get it for my laptop, mostly as a "Facebook machine".
>>53615772
Hm. I might do that.
Anyway to sort of "categorize" the differences between testing and unstable? As I understand it, unstable might break more often, but is fixed faster, while unstable, if it does break, may remain broken for a good long while.
>decide to install arch on laptop
>too lazy to go through whole thing again so decide to use AUI
>can't download from github because network doesn't work
>setting wlan interface up doesn't do shit
>it doesn't even detect my usb wireless adapter I usually do and which worked on every installation beforehand
what a piece of shit
>>53615833
you understand right but said unstable when meaning testing. another difference it that testing is also nextstable, so you can use stretch and wait for it to be the current release and then have stable.
sometimes packages are held back from testing in a bulk because of dependencies. this is the case for krita for example.
>>53615862
rtfm
>>53615876
>you understand right but said unstable when meaning testing
Oh yeah sorry.
You know what, I'm just gonna give unstable a try. YOLO, and all that other lingo that probably isn't used much anymore.
>>53615833
>Facebook machine
>Unstable
For what purpose
>>53615987
Might be a bit fun to "tinker" with.
What I meant was, I won't use it for any sort of serious work, and anything I do in it won't really matter all that much if it breaks.
Hi guys. I'm getting a new laptop soon, and I figured this would be a good opportunity to start fresh and try Linux for the first time. I haven't really done any research on distros yet. I did ask my friend about it, however, and he said "If you want Windows, get Ubuntu. If you want to learn actual Linux, get Arch". Are either of those good for beginners?
So I have a Raspberry Pi as my DNS server. It runs Pi-Hole to block ads. How can I chance the server name? I tried setting hostname but that doesn't seem to do anything.
The name it gives seems to be the first entry in /etc/pihole/gravity.list
>>53616346
I wouldn't jump straight into Arch, it's pretty overwhelming. Ubuntu or it's forks are a good place to start.
Or, if you want a sort of "introduction" to Arch, you can try Antergos, it's basically the Ubuntu of Arch, and while it gets a lot of flak here, it did help me personally get a crash course on the system from a more "safe" less overwhelming environment. It's essentially Arch with an installer and a lot of pre-configured software.
Yes, why not.
>>53615748
Yes these are system packages, you need to be root to install
>>53616346
Your friend is an elitist minimalist piece of shit, don't listen to him. GNU/Linux is GNU/Linux.
He sounds 14.
>>53615625
The Ubuntu "flavors" also have differing design philosophies that carry over into the package selection beyond just the DE. Terminals, Editors, File Managers, Accessories, Multimedia Applications, etc...
All of these could be accomplished by starting with Ubuntu-Minimal and selecting the packages you want from the ground up, of course. But the distro flavors provide a way for this process to be curated for you. Rather than selecting packages from a minimal "universal" installer, the curators of the respective flavors manage this process for you (or at least give you a significant shortcut).
>>53616392
The server name in what context? Also check /etc/hostname
>>53616346
Absolutely: >>53616686
Don't buy into that elitist bullshit. Nothing says an Ubuntu user can't be more competent/learn more than an Arch user. Also, find friends who don't talk out their ass as much.
>>53616735
The line that goes "Server: 005.free-counter.co.uk"
Also in something like nmap it shows up as that.
/etc/hostname contains raspberrypi
>>53615340
first for RMS being an honorary woman
How do I fix virtualbox being slow as shit? I've cranked up the vram.
>>53616418
>>53616686
>>53616765
Thanks, guys. I've done a bit more independent research, and yeah, Arch doesn't seem like something I probably want to try out right now. I'll keep Antergos in mind, too.
Also, about my friend, he's an okay guy, kind of a lovable sperg, but yeah, doesn't surprise me that you're all telling me he's an elitist. He definitely forms a lot of his identity around using Linux (which is why I asked him about it in the first place, I figured he was knowledgeable).
>>53616867
more regular RAM or CPU cores available?
>>53616880
>I'll keep Antergos in mind, too.
Why? If you can't handle Arch you can't handle Arch in a wrapper either.
>>53616867
Usually it's because it only has 1 CPU core. At least for me that is.
>>53616910
Maybe he just doesn't want want the installer.
>>53616923
If he can't handle installing Arch when it literally gives you a step by step guide he won't be able to handle 'maintaining' the system.
>>53616910
Well, I meant if I ever decide I want to try Arch.
>>53616953
If you seriously want to try Arch you should just install it seriously.
>>53616923
He should try Architect, then.
>>53616988
lol
>>53616867
I'm so happy there's gnome-boxes to give me a painless Just Works experience. Vbox, never again.
>>53616988
This is a friendly thread.
Please stay friendly.
>>53617002
>>53617019
I don't understand, is this some kind of a new meme or what? Architect worked just fine for me.
>>53617039
Architect is dead. Some guy made a video on how the developer is a piece of shit, so the dev just fucking cleaned out the project page.
So the prophecy tells.
>>53617039
last i heard, Architect went AWOL
>>53617039
Architect is dead. Dev banned the community and deleted the project.
>>53617056
Source https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x72CANa6X6k
>>53617113
meh, he deleted it.
>>53617113
"This video has been removed by the user."
The end is near.
>>53617056
>>53617057
>>53617058
Oh lol, this is news to me
Topkek, he really ragequitted: http://architectlinux.boardhost.com/viewtopic_mobile.php?id=531
So I've tried several times, and at this point it's clear this is either difficult or I'm retarded.
How do you install nvidia drivers on opensuse?
I tried this method:
https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers
and my resolution got locked into 1360x720
I tried this one:
https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_the_hard_way
but I got numerous errors
http://architectlinux.boardhost.com/viewforum.php?id=16
https://sourceforge.net/projects/architect-linux/files/
Looks like Architect is back in business.
>>53616824
>>53616392
Anyone? I'm sure its an easy fix but I can't find anything on the subject.
>>53617228
By installing *buntu.
Tongue in cheek, obviously. It does seem to me to be the best distribution if you want proprietary drivers, but I can't blame anyone who wants to stay away from Shuttleworth. I hope you get it worked out, Anon.
>>53617228
>openSUSE
Found your problem.
>>53617217
It's coming back. He tried to post for sympathy on reddit and got called out. Also, he hadn't heard "baleeted" lol
inb4 reddit fag. so are the rest of you.
>>53617234
>>53617217
this is why i love linux. you can pull the plug on stuff when ever you feel like it.
<no sarcasm here>
>>53616392
Is there any point to Pi-Hole when uBo exists?
>>53617273
>>53617274
anything other than *buntu that would be easier to get nvidia drivers working on?
>>53617298
No idea what uBo is. I use this DNS blocking in combination with my VPN, so I have no ads on my android devices without those finicky adblockers.
>>53617330
uBlock Origin
Ah I see, use it for your phone. I use adaway there but that makes sense.
>>53617289
>>53617304
What the fuck was that video even about?
>>53617302
Arch is pretty fucking easy
>>53617302
The one I'm using of course
>>53617368
Imagine someone on YouTube making an "EXPOSED!!" video, yeah?
Now imagine applying this to Architect Linux.
Basically, he reported bugs. First bug was HIS fault.
Second bug seemed to be valid, but developer got pissed and banned everyone who disagreed with him.
>>53617368
A pissing match/sissy fight between some matthew moore fuck and carl the drama-queen dev of architect. Something like a video proclaiming Architect is pure shit, didn't work for me even though I fucked it up myself, please brigade him to death with trolls/ Oh no the trolls said mean things delete fucking everything/etc...
>>53617355
I love the setup, my traffic is safe on random hotspots, I have the files on my NAS, and I have no ads.
>>53617368
He also deleted his reddit sympathy-begging post, apparently because a couple of users said stfu and man up.
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4b54y2/architect_linux_is_down_but_not_out/
>>53617387
I don't feel like putting the effort in for arch. I've tried it before and I just don't think it's worth it.
>>53617393
which one is that?
everytime i try to run mpd in terminal i get
~ $ mpd
errno: failed to open log file "/var/log/mpd/mpd.log" (config line 12): Permission denied
~ $ sudo bash
[sudo] password for user:
~ # mpd
socket: Failed to bind to '14.47.19.9:6600': Cannot assign requested address
~ #
help me
>>53617493
Well what's on line 12 of your config.
>>53617493
sudo killall mpd
sudo service mpd stop
sudo update-rc.d mpd disable
mpd
>>53617493
>he fell for the cli music player meme
>>53617473
People think Arch is intimidating because everyone talks about it like it's the Dark Souls of Linux distros, but I've never had it easier on any other distro.
>>53617566
Go back to neo /g/.
everytime i try to run mpd in terminal i get
~ $ mpd
errno: failed to open log file "/var/log/mpd/mpd.log" (config line 12): Permission denied
~ $ sudo bash
[sudo] password for user:
~ # mpd
socket: Failed to bind to '14.47.19.9:6600': Cannot assign requested address
~ #
help me
>>53617586
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Music_Player_Daemon#Local_configuration_.28per_user.29
>>53617573
Yeah Arch is actually really easy. In fact it handholds more than some other distros because the AUR can install almost everything you could ever want for you automatically.
Is there any reason to have both MPV and VLC installed, or should I just pick one?
>>53617627
>>53617573
it's easy, but how much effort?
last time I tried, it was a huge time investment
>>53617651
Pic one.
>>53617663
It's not if you know what you're doing. If you have no clue then yeah it'll take some time.
>>53617651
Why would you need vlc.
>>53617691
For noobs VLC is better.
I'm just leaving this mpd guide here.
Keypoints: Configure mpd and set up an equalizer for Alsa. Helped me a lot.
http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=182574
R.I.P. #!
>>53617663
When I switched to Arch, I used Architect which made installation very easy. After that it's smooth sailing. Everything is neatly packaged somewhere and Archwiki is probably the most professionally written piece of documentation I've ever seen. Knowing a few important config files like fstab helps, but even those are covered in the wiki if you don't know them.
Using Arch with Yaourt.
Is there a way I can set it to never update a specific package? It's an AUR package so it needs to be Yaourt-specific, I think.
>>53617767
apparently #! reincarnated as bunsenlabs. didn't realize this until just a few days ago
Hello, I am using awesomeWM and I was wondering if there was a way to make cairo-dock work with it. I'm using one of the themes from awesome-copycats.
>>53617913
Yaourt shares syntax with pacman, does it not? There's probably a way to exclude packages from updates in one of the config files. Or otherwise if there's an exclude option in the pacman/yaourt command, you could do the kludgy thing and alias it.
Haven't used Arch since 2009, so can't be more specific. I assume the wiki has an article detailing this in it.
Recent convert from Win7 here. Are there any real alternatives to the music players listed in the wiki on GNU/Linux? I'm looking for something with the customization of foobar2000 or MusicBee, or at least something that doesn't look like garbage. Clementine is probably the closest thing I've found thus far, but it looks pretty bad and is real limited. cmus is alright but I'd personally rather have something separate from the terminal, and I'd likewise not prefer to use a daemon. Any suggestions, lads?
>>53617913
>yaourt
>>53618081
>tfw pacaur master race
>>53618081
never had a problem with yaourt
>>53618067
deadbeef
>>53618059
that + how should I change fonts while using awesomeWM, as in, what's the best way to install them. I've found a lot of conflicting answers.
>>53618110
Well then there's some aur packages you should try installing.
>>53618067
I've been using Clementine. What's wrong with it?
>>53618139
Personally hate the UI, and the fact that I can't change it at all.
>>53618123
Gave it a glance earlier, but it might be my best bet after all. Thanks, mate.
>>53618123
When is Deadbeef ever going to be deemed not shit enough to be put in any major distribution's repos?
>>53618138
>install pacaur
>doesn't even have colour output
dropped
>>53618210
rtm
>>53618059
please respond
>>53618192
I can understand that. Personally I just care about extensive file type and cue support and rebindable hotkeys. In what way are foobar and musicbee customisable?
>>53618123
Does deadbeef support .cue files? It wouldn't open them when I just tried.
>>53618340
>In what way are foobar and musicbee customisable?
Mostly in appearance (which is pretty extensive, especially for foobar), but also in hotkeys and more advanced sound manipulation that I don't mess with much.
Hey guys
I'm going to install Lubuntu on my sister's laptop. It currently has Windows 7. I went and backed up her data with the in-built option, and it gave me this file. Inside there are two folders, one with a catalog and the other full of .rar's
In order to just get the original file structures, should I just extract all the rar's, or are there any tools in Linux specifically to recover files from Windows backups?
Or should I just delete it and back up her data by dragging folders to the external HDD, or some other elegant way?
>>53618414
Unless it's a disgustingly huge amount of data, I'd opt for the drag-and-drop method (or maybe compress it yourself). The Windows backup format is likely to contain application settings and other bullshit that won't matter in a Linux environment.
Unless you wanted to go back later, that is.
>>53618369
saved
>>53618414
>>53618473
Sorry, I must correct - pic related shows the two folders I was talking about. The hundreds of .rar's are in the first folder.
So will it work if I just unzip everything into some other folder, or is there some nuance I'm missing in how Win7 backs up data?
Hopefully this'll be the same as drag-dropping, just cleaning up some unnecessary files later like you said
>>53617663
Don't let /g/ convince you otherwise, it is a distro which demands moderate knowledge and some system familiarity with Linux. The most important thing to do before attempting to install Arch is know what you like and write it down (a text file works). I mean, know everything that you like: windows manager, text editor, music player, file manager, background applet, wifi-applet, etc. The install can be somewhat simplified by installing a popular IDE like Gnome, but if you're setting up Arch without a script, that is unlikely the case.
In short, all I can say is that it takes a fair bit of a time investment, and the benefits are nice but not as much as they're hyped to be. I currently run Arch and Ubuntu, and both work great. Arch asks of you to know how to make a program from source code, and if you know that, there is very little in selling points for arch other than the learning experience or you're proficient enough with linux that installing is easy
Is there a way with pacman to make it think something installed without it actually being installed? I know you can with portage.
How much lighter is Lubuntu compared to, say, Windows XP or Windows 7?
How about Xubuntu?
What's the best VM for GNU/Linux?
people only answer fucking retarded questions in these threads damn
>>53618580
qemu
>>53618580
You mean VM in which Linux is the host or the guest?
>>53618590
Picking the low hanging fruit is easier for the less technical among us. Not everybody runs fucking servers here
> Font pasta:
General informations:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fonts
Huge list of font resources:
https://github.com/brabadu/awesome-fonts
List of monospaced fonts for programming:
https://github.com/chrissimpkins/codeface
List of monospaced bitmap fonts for programming:
https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts
You may also need to enable bitmap fonts and rebuild the font cache:rm -v /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf
ln -s ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf .
fc-cache -v -f
Fonts patched with shitloads of icon glyphs:
https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts
The Ultimate Oldschool PC Font Pack:
http://int10h.org/oldschool-pc-fonts/
Premade fontconfigs:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Infinality
Configure your own fontconfig:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration
Read the documentation:
file:///usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html
>>53618605
GNU/Linux as host.
>>53618610
Talking about fonts, I don't need a million of them but I would like to find a nice replacement for dejavu sans, I hate it but not sure what to replace it with. Noto? Open sans? Liberation?
>>53618265
>installs arch
>doesn't use google
Gotta work on your habits before complaining
>>53618635
Noto it updated Dejavu.
I'm a relatively new Linux user
What is Wayland, and is it something you have to upgrade to or will distros in the future come packaged with it?
What things can the end-user expect from it?
>>53618552
yes
create a dummy package with makepkg
example: https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=pulseaudio-fake
anyone else having issues with installing i-nex from aur?convert i-nex.png -resize 16x16 i-nex-16.png
LLVM ERROR: Cannot select: 0x28c4b28: v2i32,ch = REGISTER_LOAD 0x2c05090, 0x265ce10, 0x265ff58, 0x2896278 [ORD=58] [ID=874]
...
In function: AddNoise
Makefile:4: recipe for target 'make' failed
make[1]: *** [make] Error 1
>>53618673
ah ok, thanks.
>>53618652
Woah, sorry. It's updated Droid.
What are the main differences between Debian and Fedora?
>>53618683
What the fug is going on there.
>>53618696
- package manager
- size of repositories
- definition of "stable"
>>53618696
The one is serious, the other is getting hat joked on.
>>53618714
make is failing when trying to things with images for icons and such
So why doesn't rms officially support Debian again?
>>53618683
try running the convert command manually
looks like your imagemagick is broken
>>53618810
I've got 6.9.3.7-1
maybe I'm missing some support for a meme language like php or python
>>53618849
>>53618810
Just uncomment the convert line.
>implying you really need that icon
I don't know what the fuck is wrong with my gtk settings but tick boxes don't have a different colour than the rest of the background so it's really difficult to see them, how can I fix it?
What does nvidia driver support for wayland/mir do? I thought it worked already?
Why is can libreoffice not handle my theme properly? Nothing else has this issue yet check these buttons. If I hover on them they're more clear, eg. hovering the tick shows ABC above it.
Okay I want to install Kubuntu and my install is rather clean. Like It's seamless but for some reason my 4k monitor won't show the dualboot screen. It stays black until the system loading screen is present so if you dualboot it won't show shit. Now how can I bypass this? My monitor is an Acer XB280HK. Is this a monitor issue or a linux issue since most distros don't have 4k support yet? Note that when I boot up my pc, after the splashscreen 'Acer', it's black until the windows loading ball comes up. That might be useful.
Alright yall I used arch for a while now (about a year) and it have loved it. Pacman, the aur, and just the simplicity has been amazing. Unfortunately, with school starting I have a hard time working on it. I need a new os. Debian breaks on my machine, I hate mint, I don't have enough experience for gentoo and I don't like manjaro. What is a good option?
>>53619449
I have to assume you're memeing, if you've been using Arch for a year it should be no inconvenience to you to continue running it. School isn't going to hurt you.
>>53619475
It has been running off the hinges and it is almost always broken.
>>53619449
funtoo
im trying to get openSUSE but this happens. what the hell how am i supposed to get the iso?
>>53619550
add exception
>>53619538
No thanks I'm staying away from that for now.
>>53619560
well yeah i could. but i want to know why this is here
>>53619518
do a fresh install
>>53619577
bedrock linux is what your looking for
>>53619449
ubuntu/xubuntu
>>53619449
slackware
>>53619613
lel
>>53619262
Bump pls help me someone
>>53619630
whats the joke?
>>53619643
>whats the joke?
slackware
>>53619262
WHAT BOOTLOADER
>>53619661
last time i checked slackware was a linux distribution not a joke
>>53619676
check again
someone png this pls: http://www.linuxsecurity.com/docs/QuickRefCard.pdf
>>53619680
nothing changed
>>53618545
do you have any suggestions for distros that would make installing nvidia drivers easy?
I have 2x gt 750m in a lenovo y510p just in case you, or anybody else here has specific knowledge of the problem.
>>53619713
debian
>>53619550
>these niggers are too poor for lets encrypt
top kek
Don't bother
Has anyone here ever completely replaced ChromeOS with Linux?
How can we be sure that Canonical hasn't already been forced to install some sort of backdoor into Ubuntu?
I know it might sound like a tinfoil hat sort of question, but indulge me
>>53619676
Let 'em dream, anon
>>53620067
>Has anyone here ever completely replaced Linux with Linux?
>>53620156
>im so hardcore I can do screenfetch twice
>>53620181
You know what I meant.
>>53620283
>ive never used ssh before
>>53620306
>twice as much of something must be better
>>53620067
I haven't yet but i plan on it on my chromebook. Chrome keeps atuo updating and idk what happened but recently it's eating all my ram when I am barely doing anything on it and i have 4gb in it. So i plan on flashing it soon and putting something lighter or at least less botnet-y on it. I might try galliumOS because supposedly it's optimized for a chromebook. Or i might try gentoo on it or some shit
>>53620146
The code is open source, faggot.
>>53619449
Pick an Ubuntu flavor that you like.
Why are you scared of it and considering mint but not ubuntu?
>>53619449
>with school starting I have a hard time working on it
Don't worry, no one will call you a autist for using arch ;)
>>53619449
I like opensuse and fedora
*buntu is okay too
>>53620146
Push for reproducible builds.
What would you figure would work best for a netbook with 1GB RAM and an Intel Atom @1.66 Ghz
Lubuntu or Xubuntu?
I know Lubuntu is lighter, but I wonder if it could get away with doing Xubuntu decently. Or if it's probably just better to stay with Lubuntu.
>>53620700
Both distros recommend 1GB RAM. I'd recommend Xubuntu, as Lubuntu feels like it sacrifices a bit too much for relatively little gain.
>>53620824
>sacrifices a bit too much
Namely?
>>53620700
Lubuntu.
1G of RAM is pretty damn small these days.
I'm currently streaming lain via a stagevu link from primewire.ag using mpv, am i going to get ransomware and viruses? Im running gentoo
>>53620848
This. Firefox alone will hog you around 700-900MB
>>53620860
mpv lets you stream by itself?
>>53620865
Use links2 or dillo
>>53620860
How did you even manage to install gentoo when you don't even know how networking works?
>>53620903
Or Midori if you are okay with it crashing every 15 minutes.
>>53620899
I have youtube-dl set up too but yeah i think this link is streaming just via mpv
>>53620906
Installing gentoo wasn't hard, i don't know everything about evrything like you anon so no i don't know if i'm fucking my shit up using mpv with sketchy primewire.ag links
>>53620899
If you give mpv a url it feeds it to youtube-dl to see if it can stream it then plays it if it can.
>>53620916
>>53620955
wow youtube-dl can handle primewire streams? And here I am using livestreamer like a fucking cunt.
>>53620998
I'm not anon, I don't know if it can handle them or not, that's what would happen if it did though. youtube-dl >>>>> livestreamer in general though.
>>53619662
What do you call it, Starts with a G. grub I think it's called. Yeah grub.
>>53620998
I fed mpv a direct link to the .avi file so idk if youtube-dl actually got involved. But yea i'm streaming lain right now on my gentoo powered x220 with redshift enabled for "candlelight cozy mode". Just living the meme hoping i'm not getting ransomware or viruses from this set up
>>53621077
unless you downloaded a custom build of mpv from some Bulgarian domain and then ran it as root i think you'll probably be ok, m8
>>53621094
My mpv build is from gentoo portage. I was more worried about the video links somehow infecting my shit.
>>53621112
>I was more worried about the video links somehow infecting my shit.
...how?
I'm considering adding a partition formatted with UDF for my Unix and Windows files.
Experiences, tips? Is this the best route to go? Thanks.
Why does everyone hate Fedora?
>>53621404
it's just the name, anon
if they had named it nearly literally anything else, people would like it.
>>53621404
only you hate it, most just don't care for it
>>53621457
>only you hate it
Nope.
>>53621404
Because it doesn't fill any gap and has a silly name.
>>53621498
Yeah, better use Arschlinux.
>>53621404
Bad beginning for starting out GNU/Linux, not enough good for intermediate users, better go for CentOS if planning an advanced use.
Is a trap.
I have been wanting to get into linux.
What is the best linux distro to be installed onto a laptop with intel i5 processor.
I have heard that some distros are more optimised on some processor families.
I have been thinking about installing Arch Linux, opinions?
>>53621404
Because you are on 4chan, newfriend.
>>53621551
>I have been thinking about installing Arch Linux, opinions?
Sure, as long as you know you'll have to do a bit of reading to start off your journey. If you want to plug and play try Ubuntu first.
>>53621551
Maybe start with understanding what a distro actually is.
>can't use Ubuntu vivid because I can't have my file picker icons
>can't use Ubuntu wily because I can't have muh arc theme
>can't use Mint because it's bloated to all hell
>can't use Debian because outdated
>can't use Fedora because apparently it's a buggy piece of shit
>can't use manjaro or antergos because apparently they are buggy pieces of shit
>can't use arch because it apparently makes networking hard and breaks often
Welp
>>53615505
Antergos has 5 or 6 DEs in one ISO and you can pick which one you want when installing.
>>53621625
Debian Testing, Unstable?
>>53621625
>>can't use arch because it apparently makes networking hard and breaks often
wat
explain, just install NetworkManager if you don't know how to make it work
Also it doesn't just 'break' it never breaks, it's annoying to set up maybe, that's it.
>>53621661
Forgot that one, I used it for a little bit once after using stable and it was a bit buggy. Though it could have been my fault, I never looked into it.
>>53621682
Why do people keep telling me then? All I receive is conflicting information on Arch.
If it weren't for all of the negatives or SUPPOSEDLY has that are driving me away, it would sound like the perfect distro for me because it has everything I need on the AUR.
>>53621682
but installing stuff is haaaaard and i dont want to read a wiki.
>>53618635
Source Code Pro is rather nice looking...
>>53621712
Why do you believe people that imply that networking works any differently simply by the choice of distro?
Only difference you'd get is the question if it includes non-free firmware or not.
>>53618671
https://wayland.freedesktop.org/
It's supposed to replace X someday. Basically, your DE talks to your system via X and uts related software, Wayland is supposed to replace X.
>>53621736
I don't know. They give experiences. I just saw one guy complaining in another thread how one day he booted into arch, and the internet was all of a sudden broken.
Is elementary stable and bug-free by a mac user's standards?
anyone know what that meta-meta shit is on the weechat config? What keys are those? I wanna scroll.
>>53619262
Are you using a UEFI motherboard?
>>53621758
Yeah, "the internet" was broken, sure.
>>53621767
>by a mac user's standards?
nothing is
>>53621781
slackware is.
i tried to install ubuntu. what is this? please respond
>>53621775
I don't fucking know okay. I'm assuming you think it's worth it to give Arch a try?
>>53621758
Shit doesn't break on its own unless the following happens:
The user installs an untested update without looking at any bug reports.
The user installs an AUR package and the maintainer of said package dun goofed the build.
On a properly maintained distro random network breakages shouldn't happen. Remember, the PC can't do shit without user input.
>>53621792
-current goes to hell once in a blue moon though
>>53621798
that is a login prompt.
it's asking for a username / password combination to log into the system.
>>53621798
Google the exact error and find out.
That's how I solve my issues: googling the error messages themselves.
>>53621625
Use gentoo nigga
>>53621800
I don't give a flaying fuck which distro you use.
I just don't know how anyone can even get the idea that networking works magically differently on 1 specific distro.
>>53621781
Even OS Keks is broken now. I was an apple fanboy for years but now I'm just an addict watching on to see how they shoot themselves in the foot next. My file browsing menus don't even show my desktop or downloads folders anymore, and I want my next computer and phone to have a usb and headphone port respectively
>>53621810
it get's stuck on this screen.
After about 5 minutes the login prompt occurs.
I don't even know
I migrated from ubuntu to debian. I just realized that I don't have Software Updated hold my hand anymore to let me know when there are updates available. Do you guys just write a script to update at a certain day of the week or do you update on log-in every time or what do you guys do.
>>53621813
Please avoid using the term “google” as a verb, meaning to search for something on the internet. “Google” is just the name of one particular search engine among others. We suggest to use the term “search the web” or (in some contexts) just “search”. Try to use a search engine that respects your privacy; DuckDuckGo claims not to track its users, although we cannot confirm.
>>53621846
googled "systemd casper.service" and got matches related to the livedisk failing to boot.
might suggest you do the same
>>53621846
Try unchecking the last two checkmarks and see if it goes anywhere. If it does then something may be wrong with your internet connection since I believe the last two checkboxes mean you need a stable net connection on the PC you are installing Ubuntu on...
>>53621872
I did, but this exact usb works on every fuckin other machine I have worked with.
I googled my motherboard + ubuntu and it seems like there a problems with the fuckin usb. Will look into this.
>>53621859
I just run the update command once a day sort of like "an apple a day keeps the doctor away". Literally takes 5 seconds of your time.
>>53621839
I never asked you which distro you think I should use, I asked if you think it's worth it to give it a chance.
>>53621864
Sure thing, trippy RMS.
>>53621888
What I think about a distro should be irrelevant to you.
>>53621885
Before you blame the USB (disk or port? please specify), how did you make the LiveUSB? Did you use "dd" or did you use unetbootin and the like?
The way a LiveUSB drive is made can make all the difference which is why a lot of distros recommend using the "dd" command when making an install USB.
>>53621888
Don't start with Arch. It's just going to turn you off from Linux. Start with some flavor of Ubuntu, it'll be an easier learning curve. I like Ubuntu GNOME personally.
>>53621938
>Don't start with Arch. It's just going to turn you off from Linux.
This.
You need to learn to walk before you can run...
>>53621873
I did. Now it gets stuck on this screen.
Maybe I should just go back to windows :^)
>>53621936
YUMI on windows. Always werked flawless. Maybe I will try it with dd on my laptop
>>53621944
Even retards can install Arch
>>53621947
You got cucked ( again ). GERMANY YES.
>>53621947
casper is related to the initramfs creation, so the problem probably lies in your BIOS configuration. I'd say muck around in your mainboard's setup for a while. Reset it all to factory, because, as you said, the livedisk works with other systems.
And no, try another version of your OS rather than going back to Windows.
>>53621772
Yes I am. Attaching speccy purely for reference.
If you want real advice join #linux, #ubuntu, #xubuntu, and #debian.
Post your problem in all 3 and wait for you to get a decent response since all of those are the same shit.
Better than the half asses answers I'm seeing here, hell, even googling "X DISTRO FORUMS (problem)" is 10x more effective than asking for these crappy 'advices'.
>>53621962
>werked
Your German is showing, deutschfreund...
>>53621983
>IRC botnet
Realistically, how large a performance gain can you expect from reviving an old laptop from WinXP or Win7 to Lubuntu?
>>53621981
Then I highly recommend reading up on how to properly install Linux on a UEFI-enabled motherboard as it tends be different than a straight up BIOS install from what I recall when I was reading up on how to install Arch with a UEFI motherboard...
>>53621938
>>53621944
Was opposite for me. Arch was my first real distro, though I had a little previous linux experience, and I loved it.
>>53621983
>If you want real advice join #linux, #ubuntu, #xubuntu, and #debian.
This. IRC support is massively underused.
>>53621992
>IRC botnet
No.
>>53621938
>>53621944
Did you read my original post >>53621625
I'm not exactly a complete beginner. I know my way around UNIX and the beginner distros.
>>53621752
please please please arrive this year, i'm so sick of X
>>53622033
Just try giving Arch a go then jesus christ, you'll never know until you try. Install is easy, setting up xorg is the worst part.
>>53622025
Yeah but not everyone is the same. Hell, I started my Linux experience with BackTrack 5 (I was young and feeling edgy...) and I regretted it.
We should make a FAQ or something and put it in the OP.
We get too many carbon-copy questions here
Hey m9s,
I used dd now to put ubuntu image on muh usb and now it fuckin works :^)
>>53622054
I planned on it anyways, I just wanted more opinions to see if there were other options for me. The biggest thing I'm worried about is configuring the networking for my university's secured network.
>>53622097
People asking questions which just show they didn't bother doing any research on their own also won't read FAQs
>>53622126
Sehr gut!
Is there a guide anywhere for getting decent with the terminal and/or regex?
Also is there any real differences between shells? I switched from bash to zsh but I haven't seen a difference.
[spoiler]second year comp sci student pls be nice[/spoiler]
>>53622137
Secured can be finicky. I gave up and ended up using nm-applet to do it.
>>53615232
Please help me I want to dual boot windows 10 and linux and with UEFI and LLVM partitions and have no idea where to start
>>53622126
Wunderbar!
>>53622148
Drop out now, being a student actually requires you to be able to search for information on your own.
>>53622183
oh shi....
>>53622153
How are you using nm-applet during install? Isn't that GUI? Is that installed by default?
>>53622172
First rule of dual booting is: Windows first, Linux second.
The reason is that Windows fucks with the MBR and other shit when installed second.
As for UEFI and LLVM, read the individual distro's wiki/FAQ for instructions on how to install it properly on a UEFI-enabled motherboard.
>>53622183
yeah nah
thanks for the help though familia
>>53622217
Ah, well I didn't. I did the install at home so by the time I arrived at campus I already had my WM set up.
>>53622126
Good!
>>53617289
>so are the rest of you
No
>>53622224
>First rule of dual booting is: Windows first, Linux second.
For install order? Cos I agree, but you can definitely boot to Grub->Windows/Linux instead of using the Windows bootloader. I have both point to both though.
>>53622244
Yeah, GRUB will see Windows just fine and give you the option to boot into it.
Windows, however, will be all like "What Linux install?" if you install it second. Speaking from past experience with Win 7 so who knows how 8/10 do this nowadays...
>>53618194
It's in debians for a long time now abd gets updates with a minimum delay. Other repo maintainers need to step their game up.
>"no good games exists on Linux"
https://thepiratebay.se /torrent/10411051/XCOM_Enemy_Unknown_The_Complete_Edition_Linux-Razor1911
https://thepiratebay.se /torrent/13449491/XCOM.2.Linux-ACTiVATED
>>53622269
You can set windows to find linux, see the bottom of this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dual_boot_with_Windows
I didn't follow that exact process but extrapolated a bit and made it work very nicely.
Just started linux up.
>>53622229
That's what I'm probably going to have to do unless I can figure some bullshit out. I had the same problem with Debian. The easy distros are doable though since I can boot into it live and connect through whatever network manager is installed, then start the installation.
>>53622297
Well you could boot one of the live installs for one of the distros that works ootb then pinch its configs.
>>53618577
Windows XP is extremely lightweight. Some wm might be similar in terms of that. In comparison to w7 lxde and xfce are both very light. Xfce and lxde are very similar in terms of resource usage.
>>53622294
>Linux
You mean Ubuntu Bix Nood? Because those errors would show up for me on a fresh Ubunutu install...
>>53618580
Qemu-kvm with virtual manager as a frontend
>>53622275
https://thepiratebay.se /torrent/10343056/Sid_Meiers_Civilization_V_Complete_Edition_Linux-Razor1911
https://thepiratebay.se /torrent/12655561/Sid_Meier_s_Civilization__Beyond_Earth_1.0.2.666_LINUX
>>53618991
Use a different theme.
>>53622302
Sounds over my head atm
>>53619124
Which theme? Judging from your screenshot, it looks like you're using GTK3 for the GUI. Chances are you're using an old theme not keeping up with GTK3 releases.
Just doexport SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gtkto make it fall back to GTK2.
>>53622340
https://kat .cr/linux-old-ported-games-collection-t8232277.html
https://thepiratebay .se/torrent/11746050/Hotline_Miami_2_(Linux)_(GOG)_
>>53618786
Why not read his statement?
He can only support and endorse distros that are entirely free software and don't recommend non-free software. It would make him a hypocrite if he did. Watch http://lunduke.com/2015/12/16/need-for-compromise-in-free-software-with-richard-stallman/
If this is a topic you are interested in.
>>53622217
You can use nmtui, which is a text user interface for NetworkManager.
>>53622362
Arc-Darker
>>53621947
it is currently scanning your entire HDD to see how it can partition it. You're attempting to install alongside something else, right? Try using a faster HDD and it won't take so long
>>53622217
Also worst case scenario you can ride your phone's connection, either by hotspot (ew data download) or wifi + usb.
>>53622297
>install network manager
>do this >>53622380
>connect
>they're all frontends to network manager, so all your settings will be the same, no matter which way you use to change settings, nmcli, nmtui or nm-connection-editor (which is what the nm-applet starts when you click "edit connection")
>>53622370
https://thepiratebay .se/torrent/10630981/GOG_Uplink_for_Linux
https://thepiratebay .se/torrent/8030737/Linux_games_bundle
>>53622002
from barely functional to functional again (with current security updates). Normie talk: Likely you'll be able to double/triple your browser tab amounts before it gets slow-ish again
>>53622383
Arc is keeping up, so it's a problem on LibreOffice's GTK3 support. It's still lacking, so stick to GTK2 for now.
>>53622409
Do I export for my whole session or is it a libreoffice config setting?
>>53622409
Fucking kek, googled libreoffice gtk3 and this came up as first result, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LibreOffice#Libreoffice_toolbars_unreadable_with_gtk3_Dark_theme
Ty friend
>>53622407
>Normie talk: Likely you'll be able to double/triple your browser tab amounts before it gets slow-ish again
Bull. Shit.
It might be true for general usage, but web browsing will be the same. He's using the same browser and the same web content on the same hardware. There will be no noticeable difference if he compares Win XP to Lubuntu. Only Win 7 to Lubuntu might make a difference, assuming his computer couldn't handle Win 7 properly to begin with.
>>53622403
https://thepiratebay .se/torrent/12741688/Baldur_s_Gate_The_Original_Saga_-_LINUX_-_GOG
https://thepiratebay .se/torrent/12749411/Baldur_s_Gate_2_Complete_-_LINUX_-_GOG
https://thepiratebay .se/torrent/3299227/Soldier_Of_Fortune_For_Linux_FULL_ISO
https://thepiratebay .se/torrent/3301607/Descent_3_Linux_ISOs
>>53620860
There's a magnet link on /t/, use that.
>>53622417
Your whole session. Only LibreOffice uses that env. variable. Export it in a file which gets sourced at your login.
>>53622380
Now I have used this before for Debian, with very spotty results.
>>53622394
I've heard of this method, do I just have to start the install with my phone connected to my computer by USB?
>>53622396
I can install network manager without internet?
>>53622448
Sure, sticking it in .zprofile, I like your method more than theirs, which is forcing a light theme.
Is there some way to make your session reload the profile file(s) without logging out/in?
>>53622275
>>53622340
>>53622370
>>53622403
>>53622437
Someone save this before the thread goes 404!
>>53622470
Who the fuck cares about games?
And if you were so underage to even play video games you could install windows for minimal hassle.
>>53622449
>I've heard of this method, do I just have to start the install with my phone connected to my computer by USB?
HAVE to? Doubt it, but maybe you'll luck out and it'll pick it up automatically if you do, otherwise you'll have to activate it yourself I guess.
>try debian VM
>wtf is ice weasle
>try to install chrome
>download the .deb package designed for debian
>debian can't open .deb packages
Are you fucking kidding me?
>no football manager cracked for linux
;_;
>>53622480
Icea Weasle is a rebranded Firefox. Soon they will use the "normal", branded Firefox.
>chrome
>using a closed source, proprietary WEB BROWSER
Windows buddy, stick to it.
>>53622480
Dude you're a cuck:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYOy1tuVv3w
Impossible to ever use "are you kidding me?" ever again without making everyone else cringe - stop it you cuck.
>>53622480
>trying to use debian like you would use windows
>>53622478
You either not read what is on the links or you don't recognize the titles.
>>53622498
They're all video-games are you retarded?
The majority of them huge time sinks.
>>53622490
>>53622491
>>53622494
you literally can't justify the fact that debian can't even run its own executable files by default so you're coming up with stupid bullshit to deflect a serious flaw with a "modern" operating sytem you've convinced yourself you like and go on the attack
>>53622514
no, you are trying to use debian like you would use windows, which is completely retarded.
https://wiki.debian.org/de/Chromium#Installation
>>53622480
>debian can't open .deb packages
huh?
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkgtools.en.html
>>53622514
.deb's aren't executables, anon
you've been making nothing but assumptions, it's no wonder you're not getting anywhere
>>53622514
You can install from the .deb file.
dpkg -i /path/to/.deb
>>53618610
just use the default ones, everything else is a waste of time
hello I asked this question yesterday but I'm just wondering if anybody uses awesomeWM. I'd like to run cairo-dock with it but just launching it doesn't work so I probably need to add it to the rc.lua or something, could I get some help?
If nobody can help, is there anything like awesomeWM that allows me to tile my windows, but where I can still get a desktop and a dock?
Why does /flt/ worship some homeless guy who isn't even programming instead of the creator of the Linux kernel who is still active in the community and up to date with things.
>>53623838
because a kernel can be replaced, an entire philosophy can't. also stallman is alpha as fuck.
>>53623838
Because they're all pedophiles, or pseudo-pedophiles masturbating to loli. ( cartoon underage girls )
name me a better file manager than this.
[spoiler]you can't[/spoiler]
>>53624471
I like the gui ones where I can preview tens of thumbnails at the same time, drag and drop for fast movement and so on - very efficient.
>>53624763
>drag and drop
>fast
