Daily reminder that anyone using Arch for "minimalism" or "freedom of choice" is a fucking retard.
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html
STRAIGHT FROM AN ARCH DEV
ARCH SHILLS B T F O
arch is a meme, it cannot even boot if you swap sataport btw your drives.. technology for the cave ages..
>>53586954
That's just if you have a retaded fstab
>>53586963
tell y it isnt universal for every OS and program.. arch is a meme
>>53586982
>tell y it isnt universal for every OS and program
Because not every user has the same disks and partitions, thus needing a different fstab.
>>53586892
It's minimalistic compared to things like *buntu. The Arch Way is retarded though
>>53586892
just use crux if you want that
>>53586892
still better than gentoo
still better than buntu
shill?? how half of the time i see people claiming the meme status, something about systemd, how useless it is or why everyone who uses it it's a neck beard pedophile weabo.
>people getting so butthurt about others using an OS that isn't windows osx or ubuntu that they have to make up excuses for how it's not flawless
you need to tone that autism down buddy
>>53586892
Daily reminder:Take your adderall,bud,you're autism is becoming unbearable.
>never heard of that dev
>turns out he's just a relatively new TU
>turns out he started using Linux only in 2009
Arch was already my main distro for about 5 years at that point and he wants to tell other people what Arch is about?
Thank god I jumped ship already.
>>53586892
>MOM LOOK I SAID SHILLS ON /G/
Whats the arch way and whats the point of arch? Whats the goal of the project
>>53589961
I don't know and don't care what is the "arch way" or other ideology behind it.
But I installed Arch because I wanted to learn more small details about my system, mess around with small things, see what can break my system and what can I use to fix it. Using arch feels like you have way more control over everything, gives you more freedom and don't spoonfeed you.
I've chosen it to get experience with linux in a hard way and it surely helped me in it.
arse was one of the first to switch to systemd years ago before hate for it became a meme, init was working too well for them and it wasn't psuedo-hard enough so they had to switch to something le different face at the time.
Now that everyone else has accepted it and it's become mainstream, the arch anti-way bylaws dictate that it must be chopped out with openrc, not tell anyone they're going to do it, and break everyone's shit again to give them a nice project for 3-4 days.
Remember to put your ironic complaints in a mailing list and not a forum because come on now forums are too mainstream and good for secret club pioneers like us.
>>53586954
are you serious? I use arch and I have never tried this. Shouldn't it work as long as your fstab uses UUID's?
>>53586892
>https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html
>"Community memes don't define the distribution"
/thread
>>53589961
To be as different as possible
to create the most pointless work to fill up that blank schedule
to forever be a contrarian to people you meet online, it's sometimes hard to be a dick to people but since you always use some more obscure way of doing it, that's the perfect excuse to spout and scream about it
Catch-22 though because you can actually meet other people online doing the same shit which is why unlike any other distro most of them drop linux altogether and go for BSD or haiku and then pretend there instead
>>53587514
You know literally every distro, including ubuntu, has a netinstall version, which just like arch is just a bare iso that boots you into a TTY?
>>53590852
I boot my Arch from USB and I can plug it in any port on any PC because I use GPT. What are you smoking?
>>53586892
Hi I like Arch why is this a crime
>>53591018
>To be as different as possible
>to create the most pointless work to fill up that blank schedule
None of this is even true. There's little to seperate Arch from any other distro besides bleeding edge,pacman,and the AUR.If you believe otherwise,your no different than the handful of idiot meme-spouters who say otherwise.There's plenty of distros out there that are harder to install than Arch and nobody jumps on those users.If anyone is trying to be contrarian,it's mongoloids like yourself who boil with anger when they see Arch growing in popularity each day.Also,since the adoption of Systemd Linux-wide,there's one less reason to avoid Arch.
What other distro besides Gentoo allows me to choose exactly what packages and DE I want to run?
OP is a fucking retard.
And don't say Memejaro or Antergos, that is more retarded than using Arch.
>>53591273
LFS
>>53591273
Exherbo?
>>53591342
LFS is not a distribution. Its from scratch.
>>53591273
Void?
NixOS?
>systemd
This is just trolling at this point. systemd is the future and any neckbearded idiot that doesn't understand that it is a vast improvement over everything in the past without compromising SHIT can just stay in his basement with his flickering CRTs and Pentium3 processor computer burning files to CDs while arguing on usenet.
>>53591273
Antergos is just arch with a nice installer.
>>53591550
But the installer doesn't even work.
>>53591570
But I just installed it just fine 2 days ago.
>>53591480
What is a CD? I use floppies or uucp to transfer data between hosts.
Much ado about systemd butthurt.
>>53591103
and im obviouly referring to them
>>53591480
What is a CRT? Is this a new kind of list printers?
>>53591103
AUR or gtfo
>>53591273
>What other distro besides Gentoo allows me to choose exactly what packages and DE I want to run?
Literally any netinstaller
>>53591480
Yes I love all of these cryptic hard to debug bugs that devs don't give a shit about in exchange for a 5s faster boot time
Arch is a meme.
Everyone on /g/ uses architect to install it but post the wiki install article to convince people they are "smart".
>>53591273
Slackware is the only one.
Others force you to install all the dependencies.
>>53594708
lmao
>>53594708
>smart for following simple step-by-step instructions
baking a cake is harder than installing arch (or gentoo)
i want arch to have an installer again so we can have less people pretending their oh so l33t
Daily reminder Arch can hardbrick your laptop
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/02/01/running-a-single-delete-command-can-permanently-brick-laptops-from-inside-linux/
>>53595025
Good thing I'm not on a laptop ;v)
>>53595025
thats pretty fucking bad
>>53594708
>Everyone on /g/ uses architect to install it
Not everyone /g/ is a complete retard like you.
>to convince people they are "smart"
What?
>>53591480
Get fuck out here, Lennart.
I tired explaining this to an Arch nigger yesterday to no avail - that Arch is NOT minimal. The only differences in their packages and like Ubuntu's are that
>Arch includes development headers rather than splitting into -dev packages
>Arch strips debug symbols from binaries
>Arch applies less patches
>>53594956
>baking a cake is harder than installing arch (or gentoo)
Dual boot UEFI install was quite the pain in the ass for a beginner tbqh fampai.
>>53595192
Seriously...dual booting arch is a serious pain in the fucking ass when it comes to partitioning.
>>53595190
>>Arch includes development headers rather than splitting into -dev packages
>>Arch strips debug symbols from binaries
>>Arch applies less patches
That's a part of the reasons why I like Arch.
>>53591550
Just use Architect ffs... straight forward and less spergy than installing arch from the wiki
>>53595218
Well now that I went through it properly I don't consider it hard anymore, but you have to collect information from the ass crack of the internet when you encounter obscure obstacles.
At least I learned quite a bit during that endeavor.
>>53594708
Yeah... I used Architect, but I really couldn't give a bigger shit about installing from the wiki. Using Arch fixed many issues I had with Debian.
>>53595236
I didn't mean to suggest any of that was bad, just that it's not really ``minimal''
>>53595190
>Arch strips debug symbols from binaries
Doesn't every distro do that? Slackware does at least.
Also, Arch also removes all the software documentation, except for the man pages. Which can be really annoying.
>>53595260
What kind of obscure obstacles?
>>53586892
i run gnubuntu, is arch better?
>>53595306
USB stick wouldn't boot in UEFI mode for instance, and I had to replace certain files until it worked. There was also other stuff I encountered that I don't remember well anymore. And after discovering os-prober everything got more simple too.
>>53586892
What if I'm not all buttflustered over systemd?
Should I still listen to this retard's chimp-out?
Eh. I use Arch because the AUR. It's just to fucking comfortable to ever let go.
>>53595260
obscure obstacles can be just as much of, if not even more, a problem with an installer, especially a really simple one like the one Arch used to have
>>53595359
>OS prober
I've never installed arch. I'm guessing this can help you in a dual boot by telling you which partition Windows OS is in, so you know more clearly how to partition the drive?
>>53595273
Yes, I know.
>>53595423
more like lets grub see them
>>53595423
Shows grub where other OS are. grub-mkconfig will do the rest.
>>53595485
>>53595499
How is it used in an Arch installation? Do you just have to install it after installing GRUB, and then I assume run the grub-mkconfig command? Then at boot you should see the option to boot into different partitions?
>>53595586
pretty much yeah
>>53594652
you debug shit, if something breaks you google it and if theres no fix you just reinstall system, thats the way of a linux. have a nice day reinstalling shit over and over
>>53595768
the true arch way(tm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DW767hyo6s
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>>53595837
>For the last freaking time I know now that I had it on a FAT32 filesystem, I know and have always known it has a 4GB limit, but I didn't know it was on a FAT32 at the time OK? so stop bitching at me about it.
typical windows user
>>53590448
>Using arch feels like you have way more control over everything, gives you more freedom and don't spoonfeed you.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>53595768
Except when there's a new update of systemd which results in a forum full of complaining Arch users and a bugzilla full of "complain elsewhere we don't give a shit" Redhat employees and no reliable fix in sight anywhere, for a freshly installed system...
>>53586892
>It has also never been a distribution offering much user freedom/choice compared to Gentoo and even Debian.
HAHAHAAHAHHA
ARCHFAGS BTFO
debian confirmed god of distros
>>53596112
way of linux m8
>>53596283
>way of linux
"It just never werks"
>>53596180
except apt
