>Features
>No headphone jack
Apple fags really will defend anything, huh?
my $1000 shure headphones are now obsolete, Apple did me a favor, I now know the error of my ways, the future is 128bitrate itunes over an adapter through my charging port converting my analog into digital back into digital through a made in china onboard sound adapter which is low bandwidth.
>>53586832
Is it Beats? If no then it's shit.
>>53586803
I don't see a problem for that, I just don't understand the explanation for it.
who the hell want's a skinny phone?
>removing things is now considered a feature
>>53586858
only a backwards mudslime would think that dropping that archaic headphone jack is a bad thing.
>>53586856
>>53586858
>>53586863
What's the problem fellas?
>>53586863
Enjoy needing an adapter for everything, faggot. I bet you think the newest macbook having only one port for everything is good.
It's a simple and fully functional system, why anyone would change it ? Apple wille certainly do it just for making more money, as usual...
>>53586898
>needing an adapter for everything
literally just for headphones, and presumably this would give manufacturers the kick in the ass they need to make wireless headphones less shitty. if apple ships wireless headphones with the new iPhone, 70% of its consumers would never have need for a 3.5mm jack ever again.
>>53586917
Come on....
>>53586895
Fuck you. Maybe I want to plug in my headphones without carrying around a $15 cable. What's the God damn point? Phone is thinner so apple uses less material and battery to fuck you? Now you have to buy battery case! They even designed it to work better with better case. They will milk you fucker.
>>53586895
>No charging on the road while listening to music
>Carrying around another piece of crap just to be able to listen to music on a headphone of choice instead of having to be pushed into a system only used by Apple
>You're bound to lose quality because of adapting unless you drop even more money.
They're not problems that cannot be overcome, nor is it a thing about money.
They're just all cons compared to no pro's. Don't come with audio quality, that's only theoretically true. We all know that no phone has "great" audio quality.
>>53586917
Wireless headphones are shitty by design. They'll never surpass proper headphones with a proper cable.
>>53586846
>>53586950
>Wireless headphones are shitty by design.
yes, that's why I said it might give manufacturers a kick in the ass to make them less shitty. are you agreeing with me in some really unclear, stupid way?
>They'll never surpass proper headphones with a proper cable.
1) what dimensions are you considering?
2) what's a "proper" cable and how does it differ from an improper one?
3) do you think more than 5% of people with iPhones are using "proper cables" to listen to shit they stream from spotify?
4) see above about "kick in the ass"
>>53586903
The thing is I think this is the most shameless money making move Apple has pulled. Some people compare this to them removing the DVD drive but I don't think it's the same thing. The DVD drive was something that was already seeing less and less usage. People were primarily using flash storage at that point for most things and cloud storage was starting to really take off with consumers.
Removing the 3.5mm jack for literally no reason (no, thickness isn't why, it would still be possible to keep the jack in a 6mm phone) other than forcing consumers to buy Bluetooth headphones or proprietary Lightning headphones is an anti-consumer move. There is no way around it.
I think one of the reasons Apple is doing this is because there is concern and speculation that iPhone sales might finally start to slow down, which will cause investor panic if they don't break another sales record considering iPhones bring in the vast majority of Apple's revenue. Creating a new stream of revenue from a new wave of amazing wireless Beats headphones and then collecting those sweet Lightning licensing royalties for Lightning headphones will bring in some sweet cash for Apple.
Just my thoughts anyway.
>shaving mm off the phone for literally no fucking reason
>forget that this creates a huge fucking camera bump
Apple does it again!
>>53586803
So apples folks are gonna tell me what headphones I can use what a can't? Fuck off
>>53586803
feature |ˈfēCHər|
noun
1 a distinctive attribute or aspect of something
I'm pretty sure the iPhone having no headphone jack is rather distinctive. Says nothing about it being good though.
>>53587104
well what do you know about headphones? pretty sure apple knows what they're doing.
>>53587029
>The DVD drive was ... seeing less ... usage
no. you must have not been here when the MBA was announced, but /g/ had the biggest autism tantrum it had ever had since it stopped being about guro. netflix had only started its streaming service the previous year, and it was by no means clear that it would be a big deal. everyone was using DVDs for movies.
apple even had this insane, contrived plan for getting around the lack of a disc, that basically involved making the optical drive sharable over a network. and then they released the "superdrive". it was a fucking mess.
headphone jacks are arguably more established, but it doesn't feel that much more disruptive than the shitfit /g/ threw in 2008.
>>53587096
Like samshit done?
XPERIA Z3/4/5 Masterrace
>>53587104
Nah you can still use whatever headphones you want, you'll just need an adapter.
>>53586957
This was obviously a fucking joke. How retarded are you? Wow.
>>53587143
autistic people? there is no limit to how retarded they are.
>>53587129
?????
>>53587096
>camera bump on an Apple
>even bigger bump on the second try
>on a phone which is only desirable because of it's good design
Can't take them seriously after this. At least the camera is good r-right ?
>>53587096
Why would you do this? Especially since iPhone is all about design, this about as ugly as it comes. Why not just make the phone thicker and add a bigger battery while you're at it?
>>53587160
Truth hurts anon
Just because you want him to be real doesn't mean Santa Claus is real
>>53587180
not the guy you're replying to, but...
i agree with you, but asking why apple would do something is an incredibly pointless exercise. they're famously opaque on their reasoning for doing shit.
>>53586803
>Expected
>Rumour
>Speculation
>this is news worthy
I want the Apple hypesters to die
>>53587180
There's literally no reason to modify the camera. It was on par with the S7 which came out this year and it had a noticeably smaller bump than this one.
Should've just made it a little thicker, remove the bump and improve battery like you said.
Apple being retarded again, the iPhone 6 Plus really takes the cake when it comes to ugly ass phones.
>>53586863
Consider me a mudslime ,then.
>>53586917
>muh wireless headphones
literally lmaoing at your life
>>53587129
You do realize the Xperia Z phones are dead now because Sony is so incompetent at making phones?
>>53587261
so the absence of a wire really gets you lmaoing?
it sounds like your life is full of laughs that nobody else gets or cares about.
>>53587129
>pay for muh premium bazillion $ phone
>can't even take a good selfie with it
My fucking sides, man. Sony faggots get BTFO again.
Apple pushed better touch screens, ultrabooks and simple app design. I expect them to push wireless headphones as well but why cut the cord just yet? Unless they phone comes with earphones that have AMAZING battery life, people will complain about charging.
>>53587162
shit when you can compare a $800 phone with a $310 phone
>>53587282
Wireless headphones sound like shit dude
>>53587304
>He actually buys Chink shit to feel better about being poor
>>53587113
I know a lot about headphones
I've made cheap 5$ Chinese headphones bluetooth by combining them and a mono BT earpiece, I've made insanely good audio from just an 8 bit ADC and an 8 bit microcontroller, I've extended high quality headphones by several terns of feet with thick copper wire and homemade shielding to extend their length.
I have even made my own shitty headphones with speakers from toys and metal wires
>>53587282
Bluetooth audio quality is a fucking joke when compared to wired audio. They cannot be compared, wired audio quality is awesome because it doesn't have to much loss.
In Bluetooth audio your phone has to transmit Bluetooth packets and retransmit them in case the headphones don't receive them, that takes battery life. And battery consumption dependent upon the distance between your phone and headphones is fucking retarded
>>53587308
you're overestimating the amount to which people will observe audio quality, but this is normal for audiophiles who are out of touch with the rest of the world.
the vast majority of iphone consumers are exclusively listening to mp3s from itunes and streamed audio from spotify or something like that. are you seriously going to try to sell people on the horse shit claim that they'll be able to tell the difference between wired and wireless when listening to 192kbps audio streamed from spotify?
>>53587375
Yes because with wireless headphones it doesn't matter what quality the source is, you can fucking hear static constantly.
>>53586917
I would love if wireless headphones sucked less. I have some bluetooth headphones and they're really convenient. No cable in the way at work, not tethered to the computer, move convenient for walking around. But pairing still blows, battery life is less than infinite, and they're kinda big. My friend had bluetooth earbuds and they were pretty cool but shit battery life. God tier for phones would be bluetooth with a flat wire and flexible solar panel and some standard replaceable earbud/driver portion.
>>53587282
The fact that you get your panties wet over a wire literally nobody cares about gets me lmaoing
>bbbut muh evil wires
>but muh back strains from the heavy wire
>but muh risk of suffocation
>but muh improvement
Have fun with your wireless headphones that sound like shit.
>>53587096
they really made that camera bump uber ugly
If I buy this amplifier crapbox thing will it make my speakers louder or is it chinashit?
If it makes any difference Im using a Dell E5420 its all connected to the docking station. Also using Linux Mint Rosa 17.3 KDE
Pic related- its my speakers.
>>53587367
you seem to be honing in on all the most inconsequential shit, which might be because you're an audiophile or something else out of touch with reality.
iphone customers
brace yourself
don't care about the audio quality you're talking about.
wired audio can provide more data than current bluetooth spec, but the technology exists to satisfy a huge proportion of consumers with wireless.
yes, it'll be one more thing to charge, and yes the technology isn't really fully there yet, but this is exactly the half-baked state that the MBA was in when that got announced and they introduced their first new laptop without an optical drive. And now we look back and try to downplay what an autistic shitfit /g/ had
>>53587096
Fuck that looks so samsung tier. Into le garbage it goes.
6s masterrace here
If this phone isn't < 3.5mm thick then why the fuck remove the 3.5mm audio jack?
>>53587448
5s here
What do you think about the 7 bro? I'm pretty torn between buying it out sticking with the current one
Turns out lack of 3.5 jack is a big issue for me
>>53587479
What do you think the reason is for it not being under 3.5mm Einstein?
>>53587308
It's not 2008 anymore.
Wireless tech has improved quite a bit in the recent years.
I have the AKG K845BT and these are great.
No problems with the sound quality and the battery lasts well over 12 hours.
>>53586917
What if you want to charge your phone while outputting sound.
>>53587489
How's the audio quality as compared to, say traditional wired headphones?
>>53587489
Oh I didn't realise Apple were going to include $300 headphones in the box
My mistake :)
>>53587487
not the 3.5mm jack since it'll still be thicker than that even without it
>>53587480
if apple drops the 3.5mm port, there's no going back. the 7S won't reintroduce it. so you're either going to get a 7 and find a way to make it work for you, or you're going to leave the ecosystem and go android.
so just wait till the 7 comes out and then buy the best android device if you don't like the setup apple came up with.
it's also unlikely that apple will just push generic old BT audio - they'll make up some profoundly bullshit magical fairy dust specification that only Apple devices conform to and then tell everyone about how it's the best thing since steve jobs farted on sliced bread. and it might be marginally better than bluetooth for audio in some very specific contexts, but on the whole it'll be a wash (if that).
>>53587479
>>53587503
>>53587501
KEK
>>53587487
The battery, the circuit board
y'know, the phone
>>53587480
I need my 3.5 jack, bro
Maybe they will include an adapter who knows
>>53587519
>apple removes 3.5mm jack in iphone 7
>it'll still be 6-7mm thick
what's so hard to understand?
>>53587529
>The battery, the circuit board
Both under 3.5mm
>>53587537
3.5mm jack is the ONLY reason the phone can't get thinner
>2016
>still buying crapple shit
When did /g/ become a normie cesspool?
>>53587533
Adapter is fine and all but I'll hate to carry another peripheral in my pocket.
Guess I'm buying 6s then
>>53587162
Post the right picture faggot.
Look at this disgusting camera
>>53587536
>>53587562
Friendly reminder that it's 2016 famalam. Who fucking cares about the S6 anymore.
>>53587573
>moving goalposts
>>53587304
I was planning to get the Mi5 initially, I am now in dilemma after trying out the S7 Edge today. The focus on the S7 is amazingly fast, picture quality is superb for a smartphone. But the price is too steep. I have seen the camera comparison between the Mi5 and the S7, the S7 camera performs way better than the Mi5. It's not even a competition.
Now, I think I'll just get the Redmi Note 3 Pro instead. Then get a better portable camera.
>>53587498
we don't even have an announcement from apple that they're dropping 3.5mm jacks yet, so asking me to predict how you'll charge this shit is stupid for 2 reasons.
the guess with almost no thought about this is that it'll either have a pass-through OR it'll be like the apple pencil, where you essentially had to charge the device, then the peripheral.
apple's position in that case would be "hey, here's an idea: don't let all your fucking devices die on you at the same time and you won't have this problem".
i'm not trying to defend apple here. i'm just trying to imagine what they might do without pretending to be outraged about shit that barely affects my overall quality of life.
>>53587500
I have the AKG q701 lying around and the sound isn't that far from them.
>>53587501
What does that have to do with anything?
It doesn't matter what the hell that company is including with the purchase.
Of course wireless is going to suck ass if you're using 50$ tier chink shit.
Any headphones are going to be sub par if you're using a cheap product.
The point is that nowadays there are good wireless options out there.
>>53587641
>The point is that nowadays there are good wireless options out there.
For $300.
>>53587498
What if you want to charge your phone while connected to a display? Oh wait, you can. I'm doubtful there won't be an adapter that does this.
>>53587540
There are already phones that are thinner than the iPhone and still have a 3.5mm jack, and phones that got rid of the 3.5mm jack yet are thicker than 3.5mm. Google "thinnest phones", there is nothing even close to 4mm
>>53587297
>taking selfies
Kill yourself
>>53587659
>Needing to carry a bulky adapter to be able to use headphones with your phone
It's like some of you guys want an impractical device. What do you benefit from not having a headphone jack? It's not like smartphones aren't thin enough already.
>>53586895
hahaha I made that image and posted it in a neogaf thread, nice to see it spreading. im a professional memer now
>>53587703
I already carry an adapter for my PMP, I honestly wouldn't mind. I'm in no way arguing for Apple though, removing the 3.5mm jack is retarded. I'm just saying you'll probably still be able to charge while playing music.
>>53587385
Have you tried the Philips SHB5800? I'm using them (Christmas present; I wasn't very fond of the idea of bluetooth earbuds) and they're pretty darn good. Battery life is okay: 6 hours playing, charges in no time, and they're pretty comfortable.
>>53587703
not the guy you're replying to, but
>>Needing to carry a bulky adapter to be able to use headphones with your phone
no. this is needing to carry a bulky adapter to be able to charge your headphones and your phone at the same time.
and it's increasingly difficult to imagine a scenario where you're carrying the USB cables and AC adapter (or your laptop) and yet you can't fit an adapter roughly that size (or smaller) anywhere.
i want to emphasize that i'm not in resounding favor of this plan, but it seems like the one they're going to go with, and it's hardly as bad as you're making it out to be. if you need to exaggerate how problematic this setup is, then you only make it seem like you're making a mountain out of a mole hill to everyone else.
so get some perspective and chill out. and bear in mind that we don't know if any of this is even true. there's a lot of rumor and no official announcement.
>>53587658
Yes for 300$ but don't pretend that this is somehow a bigger than life kinda sum, when many people even in this thread blow this amount of money in fast food under three months.
>>53587766
Just leave.
>inb4 Apple iPhone removes wired charging
Screencap this for your children
>>53587725
Here's your you
>>53587599
Yeah, same here. I don't think I can justify spending double the amount of a Redmi note 3 pro for the Mi5 when I'm not going to use it for any gaymen.
>>53587658
Not only that but they still use the same 2.4GHz RF, still compress audio and still drop signal. Buying any pair of bluetooth cans is retarded regardless of price.
>>53587403
Are you disabled
Do you know what a headphone amp is
>>53587428
So basically yeah, general consumers are the "live, love, laugh" basic bitch. They will be listening to music when their Bluetooth headphones die and they will just go "oh... :(" and just not listen to music. They're bitch made people who have no real thoughts or personal control. They're usually responsible for nothing and have low impact lives.
>>53587799
I don't think they'll remove it, but if they remove the headphone jack, and it's fucking 2016, I'm sure they'll have wireless charging, or maybe their own form of quick charge.
>>53587823
thanks mate
