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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/UtEixUJD
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
Anon who wiped windows 7 before removing charge thresholds here. I found a fix!
Shutdown and remove the battery for a few minutes. I feel a bit stupid now.
>>53586075
remove the battery and press the power-button to prevent thresholds for best results. same is for mobile phones
anyone run GNU/Linux on this? how is the wacom and sytlus support for rough drawing?
>>53586296
ive always wanted one of those but they get pricy fast
>>53585978
convince me to buy T420 /g/
>>53587000
no arguments kek
>>53586296
i think it runs pretty good senpai
Latitude E5420 i5 8GB Ram 180GB SSD.
Paid around £100 including upgrades
>>53587491
Fucking idiot kek. heres pic
>>53587491
>>53587502
very nice
>>53587502
That thing looks sweet, and for so cheap, god my hardware is aging.
>>53587502
Left handed devil dog!
May you burn in hell devil dog.
>>53587522
I like thinkpads but I dislike the T400, always breaking and theyre relatively old. T410/20s are nice tho.
>>53587541
>T400
E6400 was king in the core 2 Duo days imo because it came with a displayport and Lenovo's ATI graphics switching had issues.
>>53587528
Got an amazing deal from work. ( We sell refubished machines usually business range)
>>53587534
I can use both, but prefer to vape with my right hand because Vapelord cuck fag
>>53587568
I'm a leftyfag too, but I use my desktop mouse right handed anyway.
>>53587541
T400 is reliable as fuck
And I prefer the T400 design compared to T410/20 imo
>>53587624
That thing is mint.
>>53587624
In my experience is what im saying, we have sold 1000s of ex-bussiness laptops, and T400s are the most common ones to break. I suspect it may have something to do with the fact they are one of the oldest models we carry, but after having to diagnose and repair so many I just dont like T400s
I want to upgrade my laptop with the SXGA+ display the x60t and x61t use, think it'd be cost effective to look for one with the display so I've got a laptop to put my old XGA display in or should I just buy the SXGA+ display?
What's a decent old IBM thinkpad that's old and powerful (obviously for its time). I want a Windows 98 machine for playing some old games.
Thinking of changing from this to X220T. Will newer models ever have 7-row keyboard again? If not, X220T might be my last Thinkpad
>>53587756
deprecated shit
get x230t
>>53587768
And hold Fn key to use function keys? Never..
Also can't live without the insert/del/home/end/pgup/pgdn arrangement. Well, maybe not so much insert, but I do need the rest.
>>53587815
Just swap it round you dingus.
Thinkpad 11E for $130 yay or nay?
>>53587815
This, I just can't go back to consumer delete key positions, especially when editing video.
Does anybody here use a docking station?
>>53587921
I use one for my Latitude XT2, it's become a requirement for all of my future laptops
Is this a good deal in EU?
>T420
>A-ware condition
>1600x900
>4GB of RAM
>160GB SSD
254€ + 20€ shipping, but the seller takes offers.
>>53587959
got a T420s, with 250gb SSD and 8gb of ram for 240 pounds :^)
>>53587715
R30 with Windows 2000, upgrade to 1gb of ram and that shit runs like usain bolt.
>>53587943
I couldn't see how practical it would be until I got one.. one connection to plug in mouse, speakers, monitor, 6 USB cables. Incredibly functional
>>53588008
That doesn't really answer my question and upgrading the RAM and SSD would put me on that price range if I can get this one for 20-30 bucks less.
>>53587921
Currently waiting on mine to ship.
>>53587959
yeah, its okay for european prices
i got mine for 90€ but its all fucked up and needs some upgrades
>>53587000
Trips is reason enough.
I'm looking for a laptop with good Linux driver support and around $200. I'm thinking a T420. Suggestions?
>>53588789
T420 sounds good, and anf if you're spending $200 you'll get something in good condish or really high spec.
>>53588811
I just want good Linux support. My MacBook died and Apple has gone way downhill, it's not worth trying to find a good deal on a used one anymore. And now that I'm not in school anymore, I don't have to worry about making proprietary software work. I'm ready to go back to Linux.
>>53588878
Yeah the T420 will give you that, there's nothing that doesn't run on the HD3000, and you can disable your iNvidia in the BIOS.
Hot coffee was spilled on my thinpad x201, destroying the keyboard and damaging the screen. (Big burned region, brighter and with almost a 0 angle viewablity)
I will replace the keyboard but I want to upgrade the screen with an IPS one, from the x220. Is it possible?
>>53588942
if the damage to the screen was caused by liquid on the keyboard, it probably damaged the board. A new screen might not fix the problem anon...
Though it also could have caused the screen to short or something. Hard to say with liquid, don't get your hopes up too much though, man.
>>53588918
Why disable the nvidia? Is there something wrong with it? I've never had issues using the closed source Nvidia drivers in Linux
>>53588963
Some people like me would like to disable the Nvidia to save battery and heat, even if we are using a 3D application, but want less power being used.
>>53588963
I think its from the heat
>>53588974
>>53588990
Good to know. I don't think many of us expect much video performance out of Linux anyway. Gaming is like the only thing Windows is still good for
>>53588789
what $175 got me. (every option OEM max except graphics)
9.7/10 condition T420
>>53589203
t420 OEM max is i7 2640 bro
>>53589636
eh, 100mhz difference
I'm watching a w520 with an i7 quadcore and Nvidia Quadro 2000M gpu. And 12 gb of ram. Fuck I want this laptop.
Hopefully for less than $400
>>53588878
>>53588811
I got mine for 160 on ebay and its in fucking MINT condition. I got the i5 2520M and 8GB RAM variant, definitely worth the cash. I actually had a T420 issued by my school when I was in high school and hated it because it was so slow with Windows 7 and all the bloat they had on it, but now I am loving this new one with Xubuntu.
I didn't mind the new/chiclet keyboards until I just realized right NOW that they no longer have the fucking fn+num lock numberpad.
And they've been doing it since the ivy bridge chiclets.
I don't want to buy a 15" laptop just for the numberpad
guess I can never upgrade from X220, at least not to another thinkpad
>>53589203
Damn thats a fucking steal, I got this for 160. Sadly got the shit tier screen.
>>53590065
>>53590095
Nice T420, when I get my money up and get one, I'll load xubuntu on it as well, and use windows 7 for my sony vegas.
Can any anon that has or had both a T420 and a X220 (not necessarily at the same time) tell me which one would he choose if he could only choose one?
Is there any way to get a T450s with the 940m other than ordering from Hong Kong? It would suit my needs pretty much perfectly.
On the other hand, how do you feel about just getting a W550s, they seem like pretty solid ultrabooks.
>>53591321
T420, 14" screen is far more comfortable to use
>>53591321
X220, honestly. The resolution sucks for sure, but at least there's the option for IPS and even the TN panel is much less offensive to the eyes than the T420's.
>>53591321
had both
x220 if you go outside/to class and want something portable to take notes on (bonus: i also put os x on mine at the time)
t420 if you never leave your basement and want to stuff a quad core into it and shove it on a dock to use as a desktop replacement
between those two, i'd pick the x220 since i like getting cozy in bed with a laptop
>>53591321
Went from T420 to X220t.
Wish I still had the 9-cell battery of the T420 (X220 had them too, but the tablets did not).
Also miss the screen latch and how easily the screen was to open yet still being sturdy, have to use both hands on the X220t and it's a little wobbly, but that's because tablet.
T420 was easy to grip by the sides, X220 not so much because the keyboard goes edge to edge. It was just something to get used to after using the T420 for awhile. Now I just grip the battery and throw it around.
The smaller footprint of the X220 is great and they use the same size keyboards.
Definitely don't miss the turd shite display from the T420. Very sharp and bright IPS in my X220t.
Also tablet mode is fun to use every once and awhile.
Paid $425 for a T550, how'd I do?
I have a pretty large budget and I want an extremely light/thin thinkpad. I debated a surfacebook for a while but I can't bring myself to it. I'm thinking an X1 Carbon. Am I spending too much for too little? I'm getting a portion of it covered by work.
$550 for Dell Precision M4700 (3rd gen i7, Nvidia Quadro K1000M @ 2GB, 8GB RAM, 750GB HDD, FHD) in Eastern Europe, worth it?
>>53591954
Replying only because that picture is fucking hilarious
>>53592531
>White CD-RW or whatever in a black case
kek.
My refurbished x220 on the way has an English/Russian keyboard.
How will this affect my autism?
>>53592749
> cyka blyat
Is the T420 display really /that/ shitty? I was erring more towards the T520 since people seem to feel so strongly about the T420's screen, but I'm starting to think that maybe it's a tiny bit too fuckhueg. Furthermore, assuming "yes" to the earlier question, are there any IPS 1080 screen replacements available for the T420?
Oh, and lastly, are factory T520s with the FHD screen rare? I wasn't able to find any (although I didn't look particularly hard).
>>53593219
I used a T420 with the 1366 x 768 screen for 4 years during HS, and currently use one now with the same res. Its not horrible, but if you really value a nice display there are certainly better thinkpads with better screens on the market right now.
I've just bought x220 with 8gb ram for 22k rub(~325$). How fucked up am I?
>>53593302
Thanks. I'm not a displayfag, so a decent screen is fine enough. I intend in large part to use it as an HTPC so it's mostly going to be hooked up to an external display anyway. Outside of that usage, though, I've heard some people describe the screen as "one of the worst screens in existence", so I was a little bit concerned.
>>53593302
>T420 in H.S
Lucky guy, I was in HS form 2010 to 2014 and all I had was C2D, not even business class stuff until 2015.
>>53593219
It really is awful. I've never even seen an IPS screen before, but the T420 screen is horrible even among TN panels. Definitely get the T520, having a screen that you won't hate to look at is well worth the increased size and weight. You don't even have to get a 1080p screen, even the 900p one is vastly superior to the T420's.
>>53593431
The year I left they were switching from X220s to Macbooks, but they werent "rentals" from the school, you bought them when you entered the school and they came with the spy bloatware and editing programs for our classes.. I worked in the IT dept doing repairs, we had an extra stock of 50-75 T420s and X220s. Shame I didnt think to take some before I left, didnt really get into the thinkpad or linux ways until college.
>>53593501
Thanks for you input.
Really, my main gripe about getting the T520 is size. Granted, it's not going to be a particularly mobile laptop by any means, mostly just going to be something I use around the house. Is it at least reasonably portable enough for the occasional excursion, however?
>>53593408
Really the T420 is a perfect laptop, except for it's screen. If it had an IPS panel, I would fug this laptop. But the screen really is so dogshit I can't use it.
>>53594148
soon
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=118070
Might buy a T430 with:
Intel I5 3320M
16gb ram
256GB ssd
Is it worth 500€?
>>53594442
not really, you can find T430's for under $300 and the RAM+SSD is about $200.
>>53594495
I should note I get the docking station, bag, etc with it. Also a screen for a bit extra & I can pick it up so don't have worry about shipping.
I found some cheaper ones for which I could buy the bigger ssd & such but most don't ship to Belgium.
>>53594383
I've seen that mod before, but a lot of people have problems with screen flickering. I don't want to chance it, and I'm not that experienced in modding hardware. Already sold off my T420 for a T520 anyways. Don't regret it.
things are about to get messy for the young chromebook
>>53587000
Last 7 row keyboard for a while. You can hack the BIOS into accepting an Ivy Bridge chip. USB 3.0 can be added through your Expansion card slot. Weed lmao.
Another question:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XFmfFSjcQo
Has anyone tried this? How much more power does it suck up?
I want to be pretty mobile but a swappable ssd to dualboot Linux alongside Windows sounds pretty nice.
>>53595275
you can set the second HDD to turn off when not in use in Windows and Linux, so it doesn't suck any extra power up
>>53594724
lewd
Hey anons I could use some advice. I'm looking to get a memepad and I have available to me a T420, a T430, and a Dell E6410, each for around $220.
They're all apparently in good condition, so which should I go for? I'm guessing Lenovo parts will be more common, but Dell is very popular where I'm from so maybe not.
>>53595275
I've done this before. On Windows, you can download HDDScan to forcibly spindown your drives, though the power benefit isn't obvious.
I fucking love my T420. I've dropped it so many times and it hasn't malfunctioned. Why doesn't everyone buy a ThinkPad?
>>53595993
Some people just prefer newer hardware.
>>53596025
Yeah. It does get really hot sometimes. Other than that this is the best thing I've bought in a while. I don't even use my desktop anymore.
>>53585978
Thinkpads are fucking gay
>shit graphic cards
>that stupid red thing in the middle of the keyboard (just get a usb mouse)
>lenovo
>>53596151
>I'm 16 and what is this
>>53596151
wew D:<
>>53596151
>not designed for gaming, designed for business applications
>clitmouse makes it easier to type and use the pointer with one hand, developed before touchpads were really a thing, became iconic and stuck with the machine
>aka IBM
>I'm 16 and what is this
>>53596151
>USB mouse on a laptop
Mouses are for desks, anon.
>>53587714
anyone?
what trackpoint cap do you prefer? just bought pic related. hopefully one of the two is better then the default one.
>>53596233
>not designed for gaming
Step it up nigga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNJsFURpMT4
>>53596591
>Counter strike
Nigga that shit can run on a toaster.
>>53596546
Soft Rim is godly, use it on all my DankPads.
>>53596546
I recommend the fuzz clit just cuz
>>53587502
>Douche flute.
Top kek
>>53585978
thinking about buying a Latitude e6440.
Mainly I want a small form factor, 14inch or less, an m.sata ssd slot, a dvd/cd burner slot, and a 2.5" hdd slot.
Are there any thinkpads that match these qualities? Are think pads shit to work on? I have the most experience working on Dells, their consumer class are decent, but their business class laptops are a dream.
I haven't worked on any HP or Lenovo/IBM business laptops, but I abso-fucking-lutely hate their god damn consumer products.
>>53596546
Classic dome on my T430s, X61T, X300
Soft Rim on T43p, A31p, T30, X61
Cats tongue or eraserhead on some old clunkpads.
>>53596151
I worked on some Asus ROG G501j or something that got ran over by a car in a backpack
that fucker got dented, some screen push damage but nothing shattered and I just needed to bend back the fan housing and bottom plate...
Will replace screen and unbend top lid assembly as well.
I was fucking surprised, I'd say its well built.
>>53594724
Reminds me of Kite. :3
>>53593219
Depends what you have used in the past.
It wasn't as bad as I thought, it is usable, its better than the X300's screen in some aspects
>>53591630
Hey, who is the owner of this picture? I should have the sandy bridge guide done by tomorrow, I will use this as the first photo.
Would like their permission, thanks.
>>53596546
soft rim
dome is a piece of shit
Dank420 checking in
>>53596936
Dank meme anon
>>53597022
how hot does that quad get under heavy loads?
>>53588942
Don't think they are compatible, X201 is 16:10, X220 is 16:9, not sure if they even have a different LCD cable/pinout.
>>53588789
T420, T420, X220 should be all fine.
>>53587880
Paid like $90 but it was from a school and was bios locked.
So be careful if it has a laptop lid sticker.
eh, yeah, no trackpoint and /g/ will hate you. Celeron processor isn't the greatest but like, its better than a X130e, dat IPS and touchscreen is nice, I liked it for the most part.
>>53587624
agree 100%
>>53597022
Like 90c max, they say it throttles at 85 but I haven't noticed it. Playing csgo, editing video, etc it never goes over like 80.
>>53596936
Say that to my face fucker not online
>>53597049
Oops see
>>53597228
Anyone here have an X220t, and NOT use the tablet feature much? I wanna get the tablet version, almost purely for the novelty of it. Is the larger size that much more burdensome to carry?
Put it this way. Say the X220 normal version was the size and weight of the X220t, but without tablet functionality. Would it have been a ridiculous laptop?
>>53597595
X61T owner here
Depends what you have used in the past, but I've only noticed the difference when I had bought an X61s of how bulkier it is.
I've gotten used to the bulkyness, sometimes I like how it feels when I have the X61 with the ultrabase, just feels a bit more secure.
if anything it would feel like a 14" laptop at times.
I like to use my tablet features to draw, but I am not really an artist... just like to doodle :3
I haven't used the thing much since I've had it due to performance.
>>53585978
is it possible to change the screen of a x201 to a x220?
>>53597868
yeah uh huh stop trying to pretend that all X series tablet owners on /g/ aren't furry artists
>T520 w/ 1600x900 screen, 8GB RAM, 128GBSSD (no HDD), i5-2520M, NVS, very good condition
How much should I try to pay for this?
>>53597228
I'm pretty sure you can fix the throttling if you have the advanced bios menu.
>>53596960
Those ROG series G750s are absolutely solid laptops, only sold mine because my MSI Ghost had better specs. The build is like none other.
Why 1600x900 is better than 1366x768
Just got another Thinkpad after I got my T420, literally perfect for everyday computing, pretty comfy. I just bought the Thinkpad X200 with the free Libreboot BIOS and all the proprietary blobs removed along with cleaned fan, 8gb tails usb stick, 4gb of ram (upgrading to 8) and 1tb HDD (upgraded from 140 gb) did i get meme'd hard for a freetard or did i make the right decision? im also a richfag so why not waste more emone
also here is the pic of the librebooted x200
>>53598163
because it has more number
anything with more number is better
this is basic rule of technology
>>53598254
this guy gets it
>>53598254
Except power consumption, or heat output.
>>53598295
high number is still good
just negative number
>>53597940
Top kek m8
>>53598163
Never mind the fact that one is bigger than the other; it's not just that. They're both 16:9, but 1600 x 900 is acceptable because it is the only resolution where you actually gain pixels over the 16:10 equivalent, 1440 x 900.
>>53596950
just fyi everyone's consumer lines are shit even lenovo
>>53587815
>hold Fn key to use function keys
kek
that was introduced in X240 and newer series
got a t430 with 768p screen(ugh) and standard keyboard.
What should I do? replace keyboard with backlit one or replace screen+cable with the 900p panel?
Pic related is going for $350 lads. On a scale of one to yes is this a scam?
Latest acquisition: Thinkpad 600X with original manuals and install discs, PCMCIA networking equipment, floppy drive and a screen that is somehow brighter than my T42. Not in pristine shape but certainly less beat up than my T400. $40 off Kijiji.
I'm actually surprised at how modern this thing feels considering it's 16 years old. And the build quality is outstanding.
>>53596546
Classic dome all the way. The eraser clit reminds me too much of the Dell Latitude C600 I used in high school.
>>53598608
backlit keyboards are nice but useless
more pixels is nice and useful
>>53598626
Honestly, I had one at work and you could not PAY me to use a T440. Absolute trash.
I have a T540p at my new office and it is just leaps and bounds better.
>>53598626
i can't tell what model that is because i do not deal in chiclet keys
>>53598633
nice
the anniversary ThinkPad should come with those kind of manuals or a full-size HMM.
>>53590095
>>53589203
>3.2 GHz
>3.4 GHz
What's up with all the thinkpads having turbo turned on under Linux
>>53598676
>>53598682
I can also get a T420 or T430 for a similar amount from a more reputable site. Should I go for one of those instead?
>>53598731
If you don't mind the chiclet keys and the loss of the 7th keyboard row, the T430 is the way to go. Better screens than the T440 (but still pretty fucking horrid) and much, much quicker by virtue of having a full-voltage CPU.
>>53598731
what site is le T440 on?
what country are you in? in Burger a T420 is well under $200 on ebay
>>53598633
what are you going to do with that thing, anon?
>>53597595
I've had a X220 for years and recently got a X220T. The weight of the X220 is noticeably lighter than the weight of the X220T, but it doesn't make much of a difference to me. To me, it only matters that I can securely pick it up with one hand while it is open so that I can move from room to room, and I can do that with both laptops pretty easily. If you look at the picture of the X220, you can see that the top of the screen has a curvature that makes it easy to grip it with a thumb on the front and your fingers in the back - that's what I'm use to and I've done it for years without a problem. The X220T doesn't have that curvature and instead is sort of a smooth single panel and it does not feel good to grab which bothered me at first. However, above the Delete,Home,PgUp keys there's an empty space where I can stick my thumb and grab the laptop. There's also a spot above the Esc key where I can stick my thumb and grab my laptop. I don't know if it was intentionally designed that way, but it is a super comfy way to grab the X220T while it's open and carry it with one hand.
If you know you aren't going to use the tablet features, then the X220 is obviously a better choice. If you think you might even want to play around with the tablet features and don't mind paying like $30 extra, then the X220T is a better choice. They are both smallish enough for me, although they aren't as slim and light as currentyear laptops.
ANNIVERSARY THINKPAD WHEN?
>>53591386
I was thinking of getting one of these badboys because my x230 was getting a little too small but it was taken off the lenovo website. where can I find one?
>>53598787
I'll probably replace the screen with one from an X1 Carbon if I go for one of the older models, so that won't be a problem. Is the T420's keyboard much better? Because the T430 on offer has slightly better specs.
>>53598792
It was on Gumtree and I'm in South Africa, so I think my suspicion is justified. Both are actually about $200 but I'll have to add around $100 on top of that if I end up replacing the screen like I said above.
>>53598961
the X1 carbon swap is still a TN panel, unfortunately.
The T420's keyboard is incredibly comfortable, and the 7 row layout is unquestionably superior. But people say that, in use, the newer six row chiclet keyboard still has a good feel to it (aside from the function key row). I wouldn't buy a T420 just for the older keyboard
not to mention, you can swap out the T430 keyboard for a T420 one if you really want.
>>53598721
I think screenfetch just shows what the max CPU frequency is for the chip. If it was sitting at that frequency there would definitely be problems.
what settings do you guys use on your clit mice? I've had my T420 for a year and I've tried the clit a few times and just don't find it appealing. Do I want it firm or soft? do i want push to select? Why do you guys like this thing when there's a perfectly good multi-touch touchpad right there?
>mfw I fell for th thinkpad T420 meme
:D
opinions on an thinkpad x120 exe ? it got 1.5 gh so thats already turning me off, normie parents want a laptop thats good and cheap but wont listen to me about the pads.
>>53589203
I don't believe you. I paid $230 for mine, same specs, but there was some stuff in the speakers
>>53598163
>Windows 10
But why?
>>53599069
Ah damn. I'll look into the T440s swap then. The guy selling eDP to LVDS converters should have new stock now.
Thanks for the advice anon, I think I'll go for the T430 then even if the screen swap doesn't pan out.
>>53597078
The bios are unlocked so there wont be any problem with that.
I just want it to replace a asus x205TA.
>>53599365
The T420/430 panel *really* isn't as bad as people make it out to be. It's not great, sure, but it's totally usable
>>53599265
windows 10 is nice
>tfw just ordered a e6440
>>53599622
Oh I'm sure it'll be usable. I was just thinking that I may as well upgrade it if I can since the entire setup's so (relatively) cheap.
>>53598809
Play Starcraft and Age of Empires II, most likely. Maybe Rise of Nations if it can run.
I mean my W520 is great and all, but I want that True 4:3 Experience ™
Should I get a refurbished w550s or just go with a new P50? Im upgrading from a x230 because its just too small for me now
>>53598829
Hey thanks anon. Maybe the size won't be too much of an issue. But now I have another concern..
It seems like the screens of tablet version wobbles. Some videos make it seem quite significant, like, even typing on it sort of heavily might wobble the screen. Have you noticed anything like that on your x220t compared to x220?
>yfw mechanics still use a T30
https://youtu.be/kYnwJ3_St0k?t=1m10s
>>53600960
>Still using that shit in Oct 2015
Welp, I guess I can keep the E6400 forever even after I move to 32nm hardware.
>>53599231
best pic i have. the corners of the lid are shiny, along with the keyboard, but no scratches or anything ive noticed. 90% health 6 cell battery too.
>>53601030
>Classic iPod
>Cute T420 in a cozy shop
That shit is nice.
Hey /g/ just got this for $200, how'd I do?
T520, i5 2520M, 8 GB DDR3, Nvidia 4200M
>>53601030
I just got an ipod classic 7th gen from a friend for 7USD. Needs a battery but otherwise I think I made a decent investment.
>>53601030
>>53601105
remove trackpad sticker
>>53601105
Damn good deal, it looks like a pretty high res too, what is that? a 900p screen?
>>53601113
That's one hell of a deal, you popping in an SSD while you've got it cracked open?
>>53601082
It works nice with rockbox on it. put a new battery in it so its not too shit. i rarely use it though.
>>53601113
Looks like batteries for it are $16 on ifixit.
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPod+Classic+Battery+Replacement/561
>>53601143
I've been considering it, but i kind of like the texture.
>>53601157
Yes. I couldn't find any Full HD T520s, and the T530 was more than I cared to spend.
>>53598955
Ebay, they come at decent prices every once in a while
>>53600572
Nope, never noticed anything like that on mine. Probably depends on how often the owner rotates it, which I rarely do and the previous owner probably didn't do it too much either.
btw x220t is guaranteed to have an IPS screen, while not all x220 have IPS screens. I wouldn't get a x220 with a TN screen, I heard they aren't as good.
The x220t ips screen should be either outdoor or multitouch. You can only use a pen with outdoor, but multitouch you can use the pen or fingers. Some sellers don't specify if they are selling multitouch or not, so you need to either get lucky or ask. Most units are multitouch, I think.
Also, the X220 IPS screen seems to have more vivid colors and the X220T screen looks like it has a plastic screen protector embedded on it, which I suppose is supposed to help the digitizer function or something I guess. Not a big deal for me, but I suppose the X220 IPS screen is better.
>>53600996
Can't beat whats broken
They use it as it was one of the last supported ThinkPads with an RS-232 port
With the exception of a X6x utlrabase and T61 with Serial/Parallel ultrabay.
>>53598633
Nice anon, although I've heard great things about the 600 series, I was somewhat disappointed by the build quality.
Its an amazing machine though, sad that its form factor wasn't carried still once the T20 came out.
>never leave the house
>still want to buy a 9 cell and a slice battery for my dankpad.
>>53601647
Could always make excuses like extended time on the toilet
>>53601488
Most would be yes. The outdoor was an uncommon option and sometimes not available at all. And yes it's a plastic overlay - which is the touch digitiser itself (although the wacom digitiser is underneath on the other side). Note that there's also an air gap (much like the previous XGA X61t and whatnot). The outdoor one has no gap, instead being glass glued to the panel (not unlike the SXGA+ X61t)
>>53601783
>needing to spend more then 3.75 hours on the toilet in one shitting.
>using your laptop while shitting
>>53601849
>taking a long shit
>not bringing your laptop
Keeps you warm for winter shits as well
>>53601849
I sit on the toilet until my feet fall asleep.
>>53591321
T420 all the way.
X220 has unusable touchpad, lack of screen latch, tiny resolution screen. It's also just too damn small.
>>53601910
4u. T420 is just too damn big
>>53598633
gonna run windows or windows?
>>53601938
*windows or linux
I spent $50 on an x130e. Honestly I really would've probably preferred the x120e. Shit, the x120e still has the sexy Thinkpad look.
I bought it on an auction via eBay. It's a laptop meant for the education market, meaning it's pretty durable. Probably explains why they chose a shitty curve lid. The inside is a Thinkpad design with a chiclet keyboard. I like it.
It came with a SHITTON of bloatware. Since when did Thinkpads come with bloatware? Windows 7 was slow as hell. Yeah it's like a 1.3GHz AMD E-300 APU but it's not that bad, so I'm blaming the bloatware.
I'm on the Xubuntu livecd and it's pretty damn smooth right now. Going to install Xubuntu side by side with Windows 7 (since I'd still like to keep Windows 7 for other tasks).
Any tips or advice on this thing? Anyone have a x130e? Just interested in the thoughts of other people on this laptop. i'm feeling a bit of buyer's remorse but really I just wanted a cheap $50 laptop to have until I can afford something better.
How do you guys clean your keyboards?
My T430's keyboard is pretty disgusting, and I don't even mean whats under the keys. The keys themselves get kind of shiny and that pretty easy.
I wash my hands all the time and this still happens just by sweat alone. I want my keyboard to keep that gray mate, "just as new" look.
>>53602327
This is why I love my x130e's chiclet keyboard. Water and crumbs won't ever significantly inconvenience me in regards to my keyboard ever again.
>>53602327
Wipedown with wet tissues and some soap or the like and a vacuum cleaner set to low (be careful not to let it suck the keys off)
If you're ballsy, you could remove the keyboard and rinse the top side
>>53602230
You'll look like the kids in the 4th year of the (now discontinued) DER program. That was kind of the market anyway
>>53593397
very. I got mine for 90 on ebay, minus ram, storage and charger. All in all I paid less tan 180 for the whole thing.
>>53602230
It's still a netbook CPU so Windows 7 isn't going to be as quick. Linux is ideal, it will make your purchase worthwhile and efficiently utilize your hardware. It will feel like a normal laptop.
Is the new keyboard design on Thinkpads decent enough?
I want to upgrade from X201T and I could take e.g. X240T, but it has this new flat keyboard. If not, the last Tablet with decent keyboard is X220T.
>>53602712
I think the Sandy bridge 220 would be enough for your tablet needs, I still use a Penryn and can still puke out my little shitty videos on Vegas Pro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiAfvgcdcEM
I'm considering buying Thinkpad T560 for $1500 USD, with 256G ssd and intel gpu.
I would like to hear opinion of you, more experienced Thinkpad buyers of whether it's a good deal or not I'm making.
Please note that the lack of nvidia card is actually a pro in my case, as I'm a linux user who doesn't use much graphically demanding programs, so having nvidia will simply drain power and add hassle of configuring things.
>>53603519
>they still haven't gone back to the old seven-row keyboard
sigh
>>53593219
Having used an IPS monitor for my desktop for years and having replaced my vomit-destroyed MBP with a T420: yes, absolutely. Everything is washed out and the viewing angles blow. I'm not too down on it since this is basically just a means of funposting and watching youtube videos on the go, but if high color quality is a big selling point for you then you should seriously consider looking elsewhere.
Kinda hurt me to type that though. I've never loved a laptop more than I've loved my T420.
I can't believe I fell for the Thinkpad meme.
>Buy a Thinkpad
>Trackpad is shit
>Battery life abysmal
>Keyboard is okay, but not that great
>Given free Macbook Pro from work
>Keyboard is amazing
>Battery life is amazing
>Trackpad is amazing
Why buy Thinkpad?
>>53604713
which thinkpad model did you get?
What's the best battery I can get for X201T? Is there something with more than 8 cells? Or with 3000mAh+ cells?
>>53601143
just remove it, or replace it?
>>53604756
notice the lack of a response
>>53604713
>>Keyboard is amazing
How well would a magic eraser work for getting the scuffs off of the outside of a T520? They aren't that bad, but when I'm posting pictures of my rad riced out memepad running Arch with my anime wallpaper, I need every bit of cool-cred I can get.
>>53586296
most distros I try have it working out of the box (really anything but straight Gentoo or Arch)
Although mulititouch/gestures are kind of a bitch to get working. But if you just want it for drawing, it works great.
Does anyone else have issues with bluetooth and bluetooth headphones for the X220? It has trouble staying connected, frequent audio skipping, etc.
T61p and X200T user here. Don't use the T61p anymore, considering either selling it or using it for some server thing. Also need a new 9-cell for the X200T, the one it has now is full at just over 50% capacity.
What's the deal with the keyboards getting shiny? Is there some way to get rid of that or would I have to just replace it?
REEEEEEEE STOP BIDDING SHIT UP EARLY YOU MORONS REEEEEEE
I HATE EBAY SOM UCH
>>53606077
The auto-bid feature is fucking cancer on that site.
>>53606077
The first time I saw an item go up from 200 to 340 in the last 4 seconds of it's listing duration, I knew non buy it now items were not for me.
>>53606134
I fucking agree. Did they always have that shit?
>>53606156
I despise bidding, too, I try to avoid it wherever possible. There have been people that have been doing this shit for like 20 years, I know I'm no match for them.
Still, I'm trying to get a T520 for cheap to leave myself some room to slap in a 2820 and maybe a 1080p screen.
>>53604713
>trackpad
Found your problem.
>>53602230
AMD E-350 or bust
Good durable machine that can take some damage without much sweat, love the bumper lid, its neat.
>>53606253
Looks like it started in 2008
>https://community.ebay.com/t5/Bidding-Buying/automatic-bidding-is-unfair/td-p/2070692
Not my fault everyone likes to watch then bid on items. then again it is my fault for starting it at 99 cents and getting 30 watchers for it. :3
>>53606034
replace it, or unlikely repaint it... good luck on that.
>>53602327
My backlit keyboard seems to attract more shine than the not backlit model.
Kind of shitty.
>>53606077
>>53606134
>>53606539
>2016
>not using an ebay sniper
>>53606539
>start bid at 99 cents, set reserve for 400 dollars
wtf eBay, why do you let sellers do that
>>53606609
I didn't set a reserve for any of my items, save I was going to on the Chromebook Pixel but then someone ended up buying it at $900 the night before.
Reserves cost sellers more money too, some of them are fucking retards.
It would of cost me like $8 and some change extra to set a reserve of $300 and a buy it now of $900 on that pixel.
If I didn't have a reserve, it would of just been the normal 10%. :x
>>53606597
Meh its too much of a hassle, I personally find better Buy it Now deals than waiting for biddings to end.
>>53606597
I do intend to use a sniper. The problem is, when people bid shit up early, it really serves no practical benefit and makes shit worse for everybody involved.
>>53585978
wow, the T460s WQHD screen looks pretty good, however it uses PWM to adjust brightness
>>53607495
>owever it uses PWM to adjust brightness
whats wrong with that?
>>53606597
>not sniping yourself
>>53607542
some people are sensitive to the flickering(not necessarily me)
I'm looking to buy a ThinkPad X230. What is a trusty site that I can buy a refurbished one off of?
>>53606891
How does this make it worse for everybody involved?
This is how I see it.
10 day auction, someone laptop starts at $20, but then gets bid up to $300 that same day, laptop stays at $300 for the rest of the auction.
People who wanted to get that laptop for under $300 are discouraged, they look elsewhere.
10 day auction, laptop started at $20, it went up to $80 on last day, a lot of watchers because laptop was cheap and everyone wanted a good deal. Last 10 minutes, laptop is at $100, bids are going everywhere, laptop hits $300, everyone who is on their phone or on eBay gets notified of it ending.
People all bid at the last hour and minutes, what I have seen is that people would watch it if its a low price rather than it hit the price they wouldn't want to pay.
I don't know the full knowledge of how the sniper works but I do know that if two or twelve people bid on the same amount, eBay will choose to let the person who bid that amount first win. So even if you did use the sniper at $300 you would lose it as it would of bid on it last. What I don't know is if the sniper is that fast to bid on it the nanosecond before it ends, even so, I would presume eBay would sort out that the person who bid on it first, would still of won. Plus you could only snipe for so long before you'd have to pay that percentage of it.
The benefit I would guess is that the sniper would let you cancel snipes if you see better deals you want to win.
Received my ThinkPad Edge E330 today
I don't know why you faggots bash it so much, shits great; easy to type on, not bad battery, sound is great.
Seriously for £150 it exceeded my expectations
>>53601030
Whats the battery life like?, Where can I get a new one for my t420?
>>53608099
ThinkPad enthusiasts didn't like those models as they were not built without a magnesium frame and had a lesser durable build quality than the R series.
Its mainly the keyboard layout.
But honestly if you've never had a ThinkPad before, I don't think it would really matter, they are good. I'm one of the few who liked the Yoga 11e.
Besides there really isn't a 13" ThinkPad other than the X300, X1, or the ThinkPad 13, so even so if you wanted a laptop that was smaller than the T420 but not as small as the X230 then yeah, I see a good reason to get the E330.
W-why would you pay more for less SSD space?
I'm close to buying my first T420. Is there a quick rundown of the particular hardware differences in the various T420 models that I should be wary of? I've been looking after a 200 eurocuck machine with i5, 8GB RAM, an SSD and a brand new battery, what other specs I should double check?
>>53608080
I'll just copy this from the Gixen website:
>As eBay is using proxy bidding, legitimate question is - why snipe at all? If you submit your bid at eBay early, and if your maximum bid is higher than that of a sniping user, you will win regardless. While this fact is true, user experience and even some scientific research conducted says that sniping does pay. Here are some reasons why.
>Your early bid is an important information for other bidders. This specially applies to rare items, value of which is directly determined by interest. Other bidders may realize true value of an item only after you submit your bid. By bidding early, you are helping them, and that's against your own interest.
>Bidders tend to be overly optimistic, and therefore enter value lower than what they are really ready to pay. Leave them time to bid again after being outbid, and you will end up paying more, or lose the item you are bidding on.
>Bidders get excited during auctions, and are often ready to bid way more than what is rational.
>Ever been victim of shill bidding? It's a fraudulent practice used by some sellers to inflate the price of an item by using another eBay ID to bid on their own item (and retracting bid if they go too far. Be especially careful if bidders' IDs are kept private). If you use sniping, fraudulent sellers have no time to conduct shill bidding.
>You can change your mind at any time before auction ends by deleting your scheduled snipe. This is much easier than retracting a bid on eBay.
>It's almost always good for you to use sniping. In the worst case, you may end up paying a tiny fraction more, because early bidder has a small advantage in fact that your bid has to be a bit higher (search for "Bidding increments" in eBay help), however situations 1-4 above by far outweigh this. Generally, less known the fair value of an item, it's more beneficial to use sniping.
TL;DR - Early bidding almost always results in a higher end price, for little benefit.
>>53608327
Anon, thank you for understanding, good to see someone on this board still has a functioning brain before shitposting or shilling
>>53585978
Whats the cheapest thinkpad with an i5 in it? Or are they all shit now?
I like my Dell notebook ! Its the best for all that I need. I dont understand peoples buying Mac Book paying double price for half of my Dell.
>>53594724
So I'm thinking about a x220
Could I just buy a cheap one and boost it with an ssd, put a i7 in it(the one in the i7 version) and put 8g of ram?
Is the build of the i5 the same as the i7 version?
>>53608885
first gen i5's are poo
look for t420's
>>53609893
you'll need to swap the whole motherboard if you want to swap the cpu
the rest is modular, yes
>>53608715
>I'll just copy this from the Gixen website
You know they are selling you the product and making it as nice as it sounds so you can use it, right?
Their sniper isn't guaranteed against other people who bid at last minute or snipe.
While yes, I agree that early bids may bring up a price of an item, but guess what, that's how demand works. There are people on eBay who scourge auctions only, with the mentality of getting a better deal.
Also I've found buying items/best offers work far far better in getting deals than auctions, granted some people may not bid on certain items because they don't like how it looks, regardless of someone 'bidding early', there are lots of parts laptops out there that get 1 bid and they are under $100.
The whole premise of them selling their sniper is based upon other people not bidding it up high. It will not benefit you at all if there are x amount of people bidding and doing the same thing and will bid last hour/minute, because guess what, they'll bid the same amount you probably will or more.
No point in using it after the free sniping offer, as you'll end up paying the percentage to them rather than none if you did the same shit on eBay.
>>53609893
I think i7 units came with USB 3.0, but yeah you'll have to mobo swap.
>>53598676
I got a T440s for cheap, it's ok so far, but using a mouse is a pain in the ass. I'm waiting for the non castrated trackpad in the mail, it can't come soon enough.
>>53609920
>>53609946
How can I know its a mobo for the i7? I looked on ebay and there not much info about the cpu version.
Anyway I make an approx. calcul based on ebay:
X220= 60$
i7= 65$
ssd= 90$
ram 8g= 65$
battery=40$
powersupply= 20$
around 320$ without the mobo
Should I just buy the i7 version and just add ram and ssd?
I got an X220 in great condition yesterday. Came with the docking station, Windows 7 pro, and two AC adapters for $180.
It was cheaper than the Chromebook I had already.
>>53610247
Yeah I would buy i7 or it will be a huge hassle. I have the top class i5 and it runs super smooth. I'm sure you'll love the i7
>>53610247
the difference between the i5 and i7 is almost nothing, they are both dual cores anyways
unless you really need that extra .2 GHz for rendering or whatever you're doing
Most important x220 upgrades IMO:
IPS screen>ssd>RAM>i7
Any of you used Gixen for eBay sniping?
I just want a cheap T420 in EU.
>>53610314
Do you render with it?
>>53610360
I want to do CAD on it and use it as my portable station for multimedia(numeric installation) art.
>>53610484
Yeah but I use kdenlive so I don't know much for Windows editing.
the JDM laptop collection grows ever larger
>>53610558
>$15
Nice find
>W550s
>FHD, i7
>$830
How'd I do, /tpg? I just needed an good ultrabook for the next 5 years
>>53610558
We can finally program our girl game and stop being hikkikomori
Also How can we know if the screen is IPS?
>>53610802
check viewing angle
>>53610828
Holy shit that is a big difference
>>53610655
yep, all she's missing is an AC adapter, but my Fujitsu ones work fine. Also came with an Win7 Pro key, and I'm really diggin' the hand strap.
Camera's batteries just died, ffs
>>53610558
Nice
>>53610247
I did an ebay search of 'X220 i7 motherboard' and gotten a few good results.
It will cost you more if you go this way though, unless like you take a risk on a bad machine, or get a bios locked X220
>>53610828
like this?
non ips
>>53610955
Post your ebay store link. I want to go window shopping
