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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/UtEixUJD
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
>>53562080
>>53562110
Let this stand as a reminder that we aren't trying to fool you when we say to avoid the E series.
>muh 7 row keyboard
Enjoy your flex.
>>53562690
but my keyboard is in perfect shape anon.
>>53562752
From the T400-T430 era the quality of keyboards took a step back, they thinned out the keyboard backplate which lead to the flex.
On the newer machines the keyboard is properly reenforced so there's no flex.
>>xir doesn't have an egpu
Should I pay 20 bucks more for an IPS X220?
>>53562939
u kiddin rite
of course
Had my T520 for a few days now and I'm loving it, the keyboard is so amazing, the space bar is linear as no matter where you hit it and the keys have a really nice kind of break point to them. I went from a shit Microsoft membrane keyboard to this and its great, Pretty sure I will have to get a mechanical for my next desktop, but that will be in a long time since my T520 is my desktop.
Once I have my egpu adapter its going to be running my triple monitor setup from my old desktop (or dual, cos I donated one to my mother and probably wont get it back) and when the i7 gets here I'm going to have twice the CPU power as my desktop (phenom ii x3) and half the power consumption.
Now I just need to buy memory, a battery and a SSD. I don't mind spending heaps on this project since Its still cheaper than buying a new laptop with similar performance and I get to have the awesome thinkpad chassis and keyboard.
Also, no one told be it would have a light that shines on the keyboard, its so damn cool! Feel like a spy whenever I use it.
>>53562976
It also has less ram (4GB compared to 8GB) but it also has a 320GB HDD w/ W10 instead of a 120GB SSD W/ W7, so that seems to be a better deal.
What ram should I buy for this puppy?
>>53562690
No flex on my T420, or X301
>>53563072
>but it also has a 320GB HDD w/ W10 instead of a 120GB SSD W/ W7, so that seems to be a better deal.
triggered desu
>>53563072
OS shouldn't matter and the SSD could be an old cheap shite one
>>53562690
>7row keyboard has no flex due to solid steel backplate
>>53562898
>clean and simple egpu setup through advanced dock
T60 continues to prove itself to be the ultimate Thinkpad.
>>53563091
7200 RPM drive makes up for SOME of the speed lost and it has much more space.
W10 also has a smaller base footprint before I decide which blend of Linux to install.
120GB SSD + Windows 7 would leave like, what, less than 100GB of storage?
Yeesh.
>>53563102
It is.
>>53563120
nonessential storage is cheap
>tfw showing people the business-class laptop light
My buddy got an Elitebook 2970p, It's fucking beautiful.
>>53563315
keeping the fujitsu dream alive senpai
>>53562690
Isn't this like thirty seconds before or after he talks about how you WANT components to flex when pressure is applied so that they don't break?
>>53563315
man last I went to visit my highschool the teachers were using these lifebooks
So even after I replaced the thermal paste on my x60s, it runs around 60 when using firefox to surf the web but watching webms makes it jump to fucking 80+.
Is this normal?
>>53564053
post your acpi -V
>>53564075
Just turned it on. I'm not sure if it's actually a cooling problem, since it cools down pretty fast after I close all videos.
>>53564137
never had a X60s, but i guess 47ºC is a normal temp for idle
>>53564268
This is after it's been online for a while and had a webm on loop.
I found a x220 in pretty decent condition, I upgraded the ram to 16gb, and samsung 512gb ssd, I bought a battery slice, and installed linux and finally have the best configuration for it; its my road warrior; the only issue I've noticed with the screen is (IPS) model has a lot of ghosting, image retention; when I suspend the computer it's gone..wheres a good reliable source for a new screen? I see a lot of fakes and bad reviews.
so far this looks the most legit. but highly pricing, almost as much as I paid for the laptop itself.
http://r.ebay.com/PoFZ7r
>>53564053
> X60s
Related - replace your wifi card and your system will run significantly cooler (all of that heat you feel on the right side of the palmrest is from one component). You'll need to flash a new BIOS to remove the hardware whitelist but it's not hard.
>>53564484
How much would a new card cost?
>>53564496
Chump change.
I think the model most people go for is the Intel 6200, which is less than $15 online (although you'll probably need a half height to full height bracket for a few extra cents).
If no one chimes in here with the info than check the X6x section at forum.thinkpads.com and there will probably be a tutorial in there somewhere.
>>53564374
https://www.laptopscreen.com/English/model/IBM-Lenovo/FRU%2004W1545/
$70
>buy two W500's
>check MTM
>both have WUXGA screens
>one has T9600 other has P80... something
>install shit on the P8600
>find out screen is WSXGA+
granted I find these panels very good though for TN, hopefully the other is WUXGA so I can get more shekels
>have Pixel 2 listed as buy it now
>get low ball offers
>someone says its only worth $400 top kek
>someone bought it today at $900
I had taken photos of it for an auction, and I was gonna do a laptop review of it today or tomorrow night.
Sorry /g/ I had failed.
Will do a review about the 8570w this weekend and a tear down as well!
I got a FirePro M4000 and Quadro K1000m to play with.
>>53564496
Should be less than $15, worth it IMO
>>53563104
14" 4:3 T60p was probably the best built TP I've played with since Lenovo took over.
That thing felt like a fucking tank.
>>53563057
Good to hear anon, if you're using Windows, i think you can get the Dolby drivers so you can have better and louder speakers.
I think it's available for the T520, not much different than a W520.
>>53562939
Yes!
>>53562556
Was that the guy who got it for under $400?
Have the opportunity to grab one of these for dirt cheap through work. Is it worth it? I'm a bit skeptical of the more recent Thinkpad models, but the most recent iteration of the Yoga has an i5-6200u and 940m which is pretty killer if I can get it for ~$400.
Also, my x220 is amazing but it's started to heat up a lot. It is an i5-2540m model and I don't want to stop using it. Would re-applying thermal paste actually affect anything significantly or is that just a meme? What should I do with it to help it out? For reference it will hit 90c sometimes if it stays on for too long while charging which just doesn't seem right.
>>53565157
> Chiclet keyboard
> Touchpad with no hardware buttons
Normie trash is what it is.
>t420
Ah /tpg/ I'm having some issue with some noise coming from an antennae or the motherboard. Every time I open an application or use something that requires the cpu there's a staticy buzz and I can't pin point what it is. It's in the area of the centrino wifi card anyone have any ideas?
>>53565186
the model I'm looking at does have hardware buttons. its more like this
I'm in the market x220 Tablet. (possibly none tablet)
I'm curious if there is a significant difference between the i7 and i5 concerning power, heat and power consumption.
Also I would love to hear any opinions on Tablet or no. OG has more battery life, but part of my uses for this machine is note taking involving lots of diagrams and DMing, so the touch screen has its uses for me.
Also, according to the Lenovo datasheets, only the Tablet has Bluetooth? Can anyone verify that?
>>53565230
i get this too, teres nothing wrong
>>53565277
If you're going to use the tablet, get the tablet. If you don't want tablet features, don't get it. It's more fragile and a bit less graceful than the X220 because of the extra tablet features.
>>53563334
lifebook is love
absolute best feature of the T-series are the protected screens. The back has a magnesium alloy plate and the front bezel has a thick sheet of clear plastic The actual digitizer unit is mounted to the back of the LCD panel. You can grab and lift the laptop by the screen without damaging the display, or put it in your bag in tablet mode without worry.
The T5010 has a great screen for drawing because of it's flush bezel, though calibration is tricky because there's a small distance between the protector and the panel.
The T730 and T900 series have a raised bezel like the Thinkpad X200t, but the benefit is that the drawing surface is closer to the screen. The T730 has a corrugated-looking screen bezel that seems to exist so that you can hook the pen nub into one of the valleys and accurately scroll down a page.
Also got a box of T730 screen protectors. After trashing about half of them trying to apply, I've found they have an interesting tacky surface to them that does a pretty good job of replicating the feel of writing on paper.
>>53563938
they seem to be popular business machines in some sectors despite Fujitsu's high prices.
My T5010 came from a CDW distributor and my T731 seems to have come from some kind of metalworking facility, judging by the metallic dust, heavy wear, and flecks of iron caught in the fields of the speaker drivers. It's also from St. Louis.
Isn't it fun to give these hard working machines a loving home?
>>53565547
forgot pic
>>53565277
if you want a cheap tablet with Thinkpad power, the answer is Lifebook. They use the same Wacom digitizers, most of the newer lines have BT modules and multitouch, though both of mine are pen-only. Also if you're DMing, the bidirectionally-rotating screen should come in handy.
I'd recommend a T901, as it's got a 2nd-gen i5 that's a little faster than the X220t and you can drop an i7 in it later, as they were available with a i7-2620M from the factory.
>>53562509
great for $20
no lag and runs 720p fine
waiting on new cpu and 9 cell
>>53565277
I have an x220 and I haven't figured out the bluetooth yet
is a t400 for 50 pounds a good deal? i need it just for schoolwork
>>53565844
that seems awfully heavy for a computer...
>>53562509
>tfw T520 arrived in the mail today
Time to install win7 and some other distro
>>53565863
>manlet detected
>>53565887
>manlet detected
i guess...
my computer is only like, 5 pounds
>>53565349
Do you know what causes it?
>>53565703
Huh, I'm intrigued. I love the ThinkPad pointing stick and I'm not crazy about the color scheme, but hard to argue with the specs. My concern would be how available accessories are such as slice batteries or CD drive batteries etc.
>>53565909
that's pretty cheap
>>53566038
cheap?
>>53566076
>>53566038
5 lb =! 5 bongistan bux
>>53565950
There's a battery that goes in the optical drive slot, as well as a hard drive caddy. The stock battery is pretty good by itself too, I get about 6 hours in Windows on my T731.
The T5010, T730, T900 etc all use the same accessories and batteries, and even a lot of the same plastics and hardware, so parts are rather plentiful, especially as Fujitsu merely updated the chipsets with every revision. The T901 is a T900 with a 2nd-gen CPU, and the T900 is merely an upgrade of the Penryn-powered T5010 with a redesigned screen.
if you absolutely must have a trackpoint, you may be able to swap keyboards with one from a Lifebook E8420. I've never attempted this, but it appears to have the exact same dimensions, layout, and connector from the pics I could find on the internets. Unfortunately, it's rather rare. If I see one pop up for a good price I'll try it.
and yes, they are rather ugly but it's what's inside that counts.
>>53566378
I take that last bit back, the trackpoint on those keyboards has a separate connector.
My x130 just came in today.
I'm not saying it won't do what I need, bu there's a noticable lag. Even as I type. It's probably just Firefox being bloated as fuck, but I'm not entirely sure. It does have an AMD E-300..
>>53566564
memed poorly
>>53566579
Explain
>>53566585
Those models are budget computers with the thinkpad name and a trackpoint on them.
>>53562509
Fellow T420 users who use TLP, could some of you pastebin your TLP configurations? Trying to tweak for more battery life. I also would like to know if it's possible to increase the max powersave governor frequency to 1Ghz, because I would like to sacrifice some battery life to be able to process webpages a little quicker, but for some reason setting MAX_FREQ_ON_BAT to 1Ghz doesn't seem to have any effect.
Anyone have any recommended settings for TLP for this model? Appreciate the help, /g/. Thanks!
>>53566564
Not to shit on you personally, but the X130 series is fucking garbage imo, I deploy them at the school district I work at and they are slow as fuck, not to mention the trackpad grit + height makes it just absolutely awful to use for more than 5 minutes. Hand starts cramping instantly.
Guise I need help on finding an IPS screen for x220. So many sellers, so many prices. I don't want to get a ghosting one :(
>>53566623
I mainly got it as a $50 laptop I could lie in bed with and do basic things. Nothing too intensive, just Netflix and maybe some programming and videos and other personal stuff. I thought it'd be fine for that. I wonder if I underestimate how old this is.
>>53566660
It's not really the age, it's the CPU it uses. AMD E-series are notoriously slow, even for light usage. Nice deal for $50 I guess, though.
is there any reason to buy a dock with keys besides to just have them?
is lenovo still preloading bios with crap? got a laptop from work and not sure what to do
>>53566950
Depends on model.
>>53566961
apparently it's a yoga or something, can't find anything else, came with windows 10 instead of 8 so it can't be too old
i forgot to reset my battery thresholds before i deleted windows 7 on my t420. Is there a way to fix it without reinstalling windows? http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi says that its possible, but i don't want to blindly fuck something up.
>>53567037
depends on your model, on my T420 I use the tpacpi-bat service to set them with acpi_call
>>53567049
my t420 wont charge past what i set with the windows app. its really only used as a desk queen, but there are times where i would like more then 50% battery.
>>53562509
I'm using HP's, mostly because they were free.
1 - Elitebook 2540P (i7 640M/8GB/160GB SSD)
2 - Elitebook 8570W (i7 3740QM/32GB/1TB SSD/FirePro M4000 + 2 docks, 3 AC adapters)
It's times like these that I really like working where I do.
>>53567116
>Free sandy and Ivy Bridge portables from work
anybody has the same problem in firefox 44?
top bar just fucks up
x220t hd3000 intel gpu
>>53567448
Seems like a FF specific problem, I don't use it on Aero Basic much but should it have the title in the titlebar like that?
Try installing a different fork or running like portable Cyberfox or something to see if it's your config and not the iGPU.
>>53567463
thanks
maybe 45 will fix it
Finally managed to sort out my T520's gpu driver issues, didn't know that it had the nvidia gpu until I realized that the intel one couldn't install properly
Is it possible to swap the screen (currently 1600x900) to a FHD one from a W520? Are there any IPS mods available?
I come here looking for guidance.
After doubting a bit at first if getting a T400 or a T420 I already settled for the T420.
Did my research and I'm probably buying one of these, I'm looking for input on the price/bang for buck.
http://www.ebay.es/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Core-i5-2540M-2-6GHz-8GB-160GB-SSD-Win7-UMTS-1600x900-Cam-G-/311535679191?hash=item4888f936d7:g:e5MAAOSwFqJWnjpx#viTabs_0
>Minor damage, see pics
Something I should be worry of?
>A-ware
Already on the 300 bucks mark
And final option
http://www.ebay.es/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Core-i5-2520M-2-5GHz-4GB-320GB-Win7-1600x900-Cam-UMTS-/311504516811?hash=item48871db6cb:g:7rAAAOSwwPhWl1s0
He takes offers on this one, so I considered trying to get it for 20 bucks less, upgrading the RAM to 8GB myself, and buying a 128Gb SSD to use along with the HDD, or just getting a 256Gb SSD.
Thoughts?
>>53567987
I say get the T420 with 'minor damage' and 8gb ram, it probably isn't that bad and you don't have to mess with memory when you get it.
>>53568021
That was my first thought, I'm also really tight on free time and I have never touched a laptop in my life.
This is the kind of damage I should expect on those laptops, unless it is something that could impact temps I don't really care.
>>53568045
That's the kinda scuffing I've got on my dells that I ordered, no big deal. I myself was off laptops since 2009 until I got my Latitude in early '15.
Am I missing something which would make temp2 through 8 display a value or is that information (the hardware sensors) just missing? This is on a T410.
Also: what exactly do acpitz-virtual0 and thinkpad-isa-0000's temp1 measure?acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +44.0°C (crit = +100.0°C)
thinkpad-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
fan1: 1979 RPM
temp1: +44.0°C
temp2: +0.0°C
temp3: +0.0°C
temp4: +0.0°C
temp5: +0.0°C
temp6: +0.0°C
temp7: +0.0°C
temp8: +0.0°C
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0: +36.0°C (high = +95.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
Core 2: +38.0°C (high = +95.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
Hey guys,
First time thinkpad owner here. I just received a W700 for free from a friend who was about to throw it away.
Checked with ThinkWiki and the important features that can change between W700 versions that I have are:
NVIDIA Quadro FX 3700M (1024 MB)
Intel® Core™2 Extreme QX9300 (4×2.53GHz, 2×6 MB L2, 1066 MT/s, 45 watt)
17" TFT display with 1920x1200 (WUXGA) resolution (400 Nits)
2x250 GB 5400rpm 2.5" SATA HDD
Intel Wifi Link 5300 (AGN)
Serial UltraBay Enhanced Blu-ray Burner
Integrated Fingerprint Reader
1.3MP Integrated camera
WACOM Digitizer Pad
4GB DDR3
It has botnet 10+avast on it and lenovo proprietary hardware obsoleting drivers + gameworks style manager app. I Immediately covered up the camera and made sure to disable any wireless connectivity. I still have to backup files for him but once I am done I'll wipe it and install something normal.
So how lucky am I, what should I install that has drivers that support the draw board(is it even good?) and am I going to recover from having the lenovo shit installed? The battery has 30min lifetime and there's an error showing up during boot for the second hard disk but it seems to be mounted and working when Win is up.
>>53568432
>W700
throw it in the trash
>>53568458
No way, It's a Penryn quad with dual drives and a 5ghz AGN card, that a great laptop for shitting around on.
>>53568458
Why anon? I like that it's literally a tank
>>53568463
>>53568470
>not the ds version :^)
>>53568432
Lucky fuck
I'd want one or a W701 just for collection value as the W701ds is even more expensive and rare
>>53568432
>about to throw it away
what a fucking pleb
wipe it, download drivers from lenovo's site, dual boot 7 and your linux of choice.
>>53568482
This, I'd collect and preserve it, considering a QX9300 was the fastest laptop processor at one point.
Is it normal for the nvidia control panel to be unable to open if you have an optimus card?
>>53567987
Forgot the link for the A rated T420.
http://www.ebay.es/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Core-i5-2520M-2-5-8GB-160GB-SSD-Win7-UMTS-1600x900-Cam-T430-/311443785173?hash=item48837f05d5:g:DlYAAOSwKtlWl1vH
It also comes with a T430 cam, something I don't really care about.
>>53568045
my latitude has that. i bought it new. on the second case and its totally broke through.
>>53568493
Speaking of preservation, where do I find a new battery?
Also, are there any upgrades that I should do?
>>53568486
Yep he is pure pleb
>>53568766
Third party chinese batteries are your best bet sadly, but you can put two SSDs, maybe raid them if the laptop allows it, and get 8GB ddr3 and you'd have a really nice laptop.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/9-cell-Laptop-Battery-for-LENOVO-ThinkPad-W700-Series-/291697054483?hash=item43ea7fd313:g:9JgAAOxyfVtSMc63
>>53568766
I just read the W700 is raid capable, what a beast for being made in the Vista era.
what is the best battery threshold setting, mine is currently set to start charging if under 35% and to stop charging when hit 85%
Recommend me a laptop that :
> is durable
> has a good display
> has good battery life
> is less than $850
> dGPU preferred
Looked through the past threads, main one I've seen meeting are the W550s and T450s, though I'm open to any suggestions
Where can i get a usb keyboard that is as good as the thinkpads? I don't like mech btw
>>53569547
read the sticky faggot
>>53569627
>>53569627
My favorite external keyboard for anything.
http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Enhanced-Black-Keyboard-SK-8115/dp/B00496FELQ/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1458393414&sr=8-7&keywords=dell-keyboard
>>53569661
Fuck what I suggested, get that.
>>53569672
My schools library has the keyboard and it feels like shit. Are you sure it's as good as a thinkpad keyboard?
>>53569627
you might like topre switch mech. they're exported from japan so they're expensive, but they're different. also you can order samples of mx cherry mechs to see what you like. there is a couple different versions. you can also use "silencers" on some mechs.
>>53569692
They had them in my continuation high school with destructive ass kids and they stood up to the abuse, and I liked the way it felt, it's okay if you don't like it.
>>53569661
Do you know where i can get one cheaply? The cheapest i can find is like 80 bux on amazon.
>>53569692
>Are you sure it's as good as a thinkpad keyboard?
you really need to be more specific
>>53569735
somewhat low profile. tactile feel. Not loud. I like the older ones like the x60's. uhhh my keyboard vocab isn't too high.
>>53569723
this. they are indestructible. the logitech k120 is a pretty good basic keyboard too.
>>53569750
>uhhh my keyboard vocab isn't too high
you're thinking to hard about it
just go to /csg/ and get a apple knock-off. meets your criteria.
>>53569752
also a good suggestion
>>53569723
>>53569752
But it doesn't have a blue enter key.
>>53569833
>Back of keyboard looks like an extended battery
That's pretty damn clever, Even as a fan of Dell hardware.
>>53569833
seriously i never got why they have this
>>53569853
It's a pretty handy place to put pens. The design is still unchanged from the IBM days, they didn't bother changing the USB device name either, it says 'IBM NetVista keyboard'.
>>53569878
>pens
>>53569921
Sorry, I also have a pencil sitting there as well.
>>53563747
You want flex where high pressure will be applied (screen, edges), you dont want it to inferfere with your typing experience.
>>53567987
>>53568632
Any more input on this?
I'd like to order it this weekend.
>>53570402
I'm good, definitely get that 2.6 with 8 gigs, I'm aching to get a T420 myself and join you guys.
>>53570402
just get the cheapest t420 in working order you can and you're set. definitely get an ssd for your main drive and a caddy like http://www.ebay.com/itm/Second-SATA-hard-drive-Adapter-Bay-Caddy-LENOVO-Thinkpad-T420-T520-W520-12-7mm-/221167722191?hash=item337e9f9ecf:g:x84AAOSwPe1UG61H for the original HD.
What keyboard layout is this, \g\?
>>53570549
That was my idea after checking prices for a while, also I rather use a brand new SSD.
The 4GB extra RAM (that I probably can live without) would cost me only 18 bucks and I figure it isn't hard to install, I'm just worried about incompatibilities with the already included stick.
>>53570579
a yurocuck one
>>53570579
no idea, but similar to portuguese layout
I have a T60p with Linux that recently fucked up. It says that it suddenly can't recognize the GPU and I can only get command line. Its time for something new anyway, since the CPU and GPU just don't cut it in this thing, but I absolutely love the design so I'm torn. I've heard about Frankenpads for squeezing some more juice out of these old machines, is it worth it to do or would I be better off just picking up a new Dell or something?
>>53570783
nvidia gpu?
>>53569627
Get the IBM Spacesaver 2. Its 30-40 dollars on eBay. I love mine. It feels more like the t60 keyboard than the t420 keyboard.
>>53570783
Have you tried just booting into a live boot of a different distro to see if your installation is fucked?
>>53566605
>MAX_FREQ_ON_BAT to 1Ghz
You also need to underclock the GPU since when it wants to go into Turbo mode, it also boosts CPU in the process.
The max. frequency is controlled at
/sys/class/drm/card0/gt_max_freq_mhz
Set at 600-650 to disable GPU turbo.
Which is better for a larger Thinkpad option? T520 or W520?
I've had a T400 and a T420, but have never looked into the W-series. I need a laptop with a 1080p option so I'm looking at 520's now. What sets the W520 apart from the T520?
>>53570579
>>53570751
isn't br-abnt2 (brazil) or iso pt (portugal). how can i solve this shit?
>>53570979
GPU mostly. The w520 has a stronger GPU. If you aren't doing anything too intensive, I would just go with the t520.
>>53571007
solve what exactly?
>>53570889
>>53571044
How do you like it? I was looking at getting the mechanical M2 with trackpoint too, but the trackpoint is the first version, which isn't very good.
>>53571033
find out what layout this keyboard is
>>53571032
Ah okay. Actually, I might be able to make use of a nicer GPU. Definitely informs my decision, thanks.
>>53571065
I don't own it, just wanted to post an alternative.
IBM still manufacture those ultranav keyboards for their KVM gear so you can pick it up as new. Looks like they'd feel like a T4x keyboard.
>>53570979
>>53571092
Quadcore W520s also have four RAM slots, while quadcore T520s only have two. The W520's 1080p screen is better, too.
>>53571095
I got my Spacesaver new in box from some Canadian. I would have gotten that keyboard, but I don't use the trackpad so it would have just got in the way.
>>53571124
Oh shit, that seals it I think. Going to spring for a W520 then.
>>53571143
good luck, they're at least twice as expensive compared to a W520
>tfw been on the watch for a cheap W520 for months
I love my X230.
>>53562556
Kek
How fucked am I then?
>>53571427
Better get the noose ready.
>>53571427
very fucked
>>53571389
How does the keyboard feel? I heard the curved keys contour nicely with your fingers.
>>53571474
>>53571500
Kek
For some reason I'm not even worried about it, probably because I've used some pretty dogshit laptops in the past so anything is seen as an improvement
Damn I miss my HP DV6 though
>>53571427
Your fucked
>>53571317
What price range would you say is worth it for a W520?
>>53571688
read the buyer's guide in the sticky
I'm trying to get one for 300 or less with gpu, fhd and quad core
i only ever used a thinkpad once that red dot bullshit confusing a hell when do you get used to it
>>53571729
Disable the trackpad and use it for a week. Once it clicks with you you'll never want to go back.
I need a bit of buying advice chaps, everything I look at seems to be an unhappy compromise, I'm trying to get a laptop that:
-Has a good quality, IPS, display, with resolution of at least 1080p (preferably 16:10, but it doesn't matter). 17" formfactor is preferred, but again, not essential.
-Has a well performing quad core CPU (or the ability to upgrade to one), which, more importantly, is well cooled. I'll need this to be able to run all core at 100% usage for weeks on end without throttling.
-RAM etc. seems to be a nonissue, everything has plenty
-A dedicated GPU is preferable. I use CUDA for some things, and I also enjoy being able to play a few games - I don't care about graphical fidelty, just 30fps+ at native resolution. This bit seems to be causing me the greatest issues, again this may need to run for weeks on end without overheating, so a separate heatsink is probably best.
So, with this in mind, the Dell lattitude/precision laptops seem best, but they don't (at least in the UK) appear to be competitively priced. Anyone have suggestions?
>>53571526
It feels pretty damn great. Took a little while to get used to it after using the old school Thinkpad keyboard on my X200, but now I prefer it.
>>53562690
Look at the mouth-breathing chicklet keyboard lover.
>>53571994
>Pick two
Cost
Quality
Performance
I've got a problem with my t420 ultrabay lock.
As in, it effectively doesn't exist.
Second-hand, almost perfect besides the fact that it has the plastic sliding part that actually pushes the drive out, but the plastic lock piece has no spring or anything to hold it in place. So the drive just sort of... falls out. Luckily I barely use CD/DVDs or this would be a horrible problem.
I've looked at the manual, but I can't find a detailed enough diagram to see exactly what's missing.
2000 called they want their laptop design back
>>53572356
Tell them to fuck off, it's mine now
>>53572305
if you've got a lock piece but no spring, then you're missing a spring
you can just take a few different clicky pens apart to find a spring that'll fit
however, it is literally mountains of effort to reinstall that plastic lock piece
iirc, i had to take the entire palmrest out a few years ago when mine fell out (nbd, since i was replacing the cpu with a quad core anyways)
Guys, suggestion for someone looking for a solid ThinkPad that can run Linux w/o driver issues?
Reading up and it looks like the X220 is going to be the winner at around $240 on Newegg. Is this a good deal?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834319687&cm_re=thinkpad-_-34-319-687-_-Product
Why get a thinkpad over a Dell xps , if you can afford one?
t450s for $580. 1600x900 1tb hd 250 sdd, 8gb ram.
Yea or nay?
>>53572591
why not a t420 with the same config for 280$
>>53572591
forgot to mention, i7 5600u.
>>53572043
>not reading >>53562779
what a faggot
>>53572601
because t450s has ips screen and is lighter overall?
>>53572163
>competitive
Not the same as low cost. What I'm asking for is information on laptops that meet those specifications, especially with regards the cooling solutions, that are not necessarily dells.
I know a large majority of you don't use your thinkpad for playing games, but I purchased a fresh T420 with no drive for cheap. Good specs and I'm pretty sure I installed everything properly, but I get some odd stuttering in some online games when I'm on a wireless connection. Is there a recommended set of drivers you guys have for the networking card? I just installed whatever from the Lenovo site. I suspect it might just be my wifi connection, but I wanted to see if I was missing something.
Beyond that, my T420 is incredible. I spent about $400 total for it including an SSD and extra memory (only came with 4) . I'm not a fan of how the slice battery ruins the sharp boxiness of it all, but I can't complain about the battery life. Thanks for making me fall for the meme.
Is a T400 good enough for Office and general use?
I can get one with 4GB of RAM for about 110€, a T420 would cost me more than twice.
Should I get an x200 for £70 or an x220 for £180?
How comfy are thinkpads for in-bed movie watching and skyping?
Do they overheat easily?
Should I even consider a thinkpad or should I look for something like a tablet?
>>53572591
yea.
that's a really good deal for the price, considering you get a nice resolution screen, a respectable SSD capacity, a good processor too.
>>53572800
>How comfy are thinkpads for in-bed movie watching and skyping?
Very
>Do they overheat easily?
Unless you're using the workstation models with restricted airflow, no.
>Should I even consider a thinkpad or should I look for something like a tablet?
Yes, some thinkpads can even become tablets.
>>53572746
I'd get the X220. I have an old X200, and even with an SSD it is slow as fuck.
I have a X200s and a pretty good desktop, and I'm thinking about replacing both with
- X260/T460s
- a dock
- maybe also a NAS
What could go wrong? I've stopped gayming but still downgrading from i5-4670K @ 4.2 GHz and GTX 660 to ULV i5 and integrated GPU worries me
>>53572800
They're very comfy yes, and my T420 almost never gets above slightly warm. Even when running heavier programs.
For movie watching, though, keep in mind that most popular mid-size thinkpads come with 1366x768, which is suffering. You can upgrade to 1600x900 with an extra HD+ cable and a new screen, or get a bit more expensive model with 1080. But most of them are not not the best for HD movies unless you're okay with 720p.
>>53572591
That's a good deal.
A lot of people in this thread worship T420's and think that paying more than $180 for a laptop is a waste. Just get what you want man.
>>53572730
Honestly no, the CPU is too slow, and on a laptop that old youre gambling 110€ that it'll even last more than a few months.
>>53572921
Why not just get a W541 or P50 if you want desktop performance?
>>53573086
Well the reason Im considering getting rid of my desktop is precisely because I don't think I need desktop performance anymore
And I don't want anything bigger than 14"
>>53573058
I'll go for the T420 then since it is under 300€.
Also considering the x220 but I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to trade 1600x900 screen resolution for more portability.
>taking a shit with my T420
>>53572589
XPS is Dell's gaming/performance line, not applicable.
>>53571317
W520 can be had from 250 to 400... good luck tho lol
>>53570783
Its probably the distro.
>>53569878
>ibm netvista keyboard
god I have to see this
>>53567116
Wow, nice.
I'm selling a 8570w right now hahaha, they are worth about $250-400
>>53566564
Any computer with an AMD E-3xx should be at least an E-350 for basic use.
We should talk about eBay strategies.
I'm not great at winning bids at low prices yet. How do you approach it? Hold your bid until the very end and then bid? Or put a high max bid and hope it doesn't get too high?
>>53574293
Best strategy is always sniping. Find a website that will do it for you. Nothing good comes from bidding early.
>>53574669
There are websites that will do it for you? Damn. I have a lot to learn.
>>53574729
Yeah. The first couple snipes are free. After that you gave to pay a monthly fee.
What is the newest and best Thinkpad model I can get and be as libre as possible? I'd like something I could flash libreboot to and also run parabola with a fully functioning system. I have an X60s and everything works perfectly, but I would like to upgrade to nice hardware.
>>53574792
Newest libreboot supported systems are the **00 series.
Can anyone suggest a decent adhesive for the bezel sticker on my T440S? the whole right side doesn't stick anymore and it's driving my crazy.
>>53574895
**00 series?
>>53575024
X200 t400 etc
>>53572876
>>53572999
What about for $600, still a good deal?
I'm talking to the seller atm.
Full specs:
>t450s
>i7-5600U
>1600x900
>8GB
>1TB HDD
This is my first thinkpad (first laptop in general), I'm excited and nervous.
>>53570783
>Arch update broke X again
>situation normal
http://www.ebay.es/itm/CHEAP-FAST-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-i5-2-5Ghz-4GB-320GB-HDD-3G-Win-7-Laptop-Webcam-/262183172067?hash=item3d0b55b7e3:g:hIAAAOSwo0JWFo-i
http://www.ebay.es/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Core-i5-2520M-2-5GHz-4GB-320GB-Win7-1600x900-Cam-UMTS-/311504516811?hash=item48871db6cb:g:7rAAAOSwwPhWl1s0
Which one would you buy?
>>53575549
neither desu senpai
>>53575650
fug
I just can't avoid getting jewed in EU.
>>53575680
That's the price of free-oh wait.
>>53575696
There's no such thing as freedom anymore.
>>53575758
Some places are more free than others.
Is the edge series good?
Like the E520?
>>53571086
Shouldnt the OS tell you somewhere what layout it's set to?
>>53575941
Read the fucking OP
>>53575201
pls respond
t450s for $600 shipped.
yes/no?
>>53571007
It is definitely Portuguese.
>>53570837
ATI
>>53570899
It probably will, but the point is that it's getting old, and absolutely will not play even the simplest of games. I tried playing Braid and it was completely unplayable. I don't know if I care enough to spend the time to fix it, I just want something with a GPU that doesn't suck donkey cock, and if I can swap boards with a newer ThinkPad, I'd prefer to do that.
>>53570579
Blur, the layout
Anyone had any problems with the SD card slot? I have a T500 running Debian testing and the card reader shows up in lspci, but nothing shows up when I pop a card in it. Thinkwiki only has some old stuff about patching 2.6-series kernels to see it.
>>53576016
That's a better deal than anything I've seen, I'd say go for it.
>>53576590
I just realized the 1600x900 isn't IPS.
I don't think it's worth, considering purchasing the FHD panel would cost $100-150 anyway.
>>53576016
jesus christ dude, two people have already responded previously for your buy.
fucking buy it u indecisive pleb.
heres my take: no
>>53576639
Where are you buying from? Ebay or CL?
>>53576287
Do the T601F with an Intel board, get the Advanced Dock, and get a desktop GPU to put in it. You'll get greatly improved performance all around, but the GPU in particular will be way better than any internal card you could get on a T60 or T61 motherboard, and you won't have to settle for a newer, inferior Thinkpad. The R7 240 I've got in mine effectively obsoletes my Nvidia T420, with better performance in every game I've tried except Metal Gear Rising, which is known for being CPU-heavy.
Anyone possess a 240x??
What's the best place to buy a good, inexpensive battery for a T420? a 55++ maybe.
So, I've got an X230T that I've recently loaded windows 10 on. It is just...horribly slow in the oddest ways. For instance, when typing this, the screen rendered it horribly slow.
I've had a couple of other problems to. Like, I can't run things very well in virtual box.
The laptop isn't slow either. It has a 3rd gen i7 and 12GB of ram. What gives?
Just bought a t550 for $425. How'd I do gents?
>>53578209
update gpu drivers
>>53563080
X300/301 had the best keyboard.
>>53578448
no 600 series did
Can I upgrade my t420 to a quad core i7?
Goodbye /tpg/, I'm moving on from the thinkpad. Good luck to those still waiting, I hope the anniversary edition actually comes out and it doesn't suck.
>>53578506
Yes, but you'll have problems with cooling.
Hey guys, I know its not a thinkpad, but I wanted to ask about a change to my laptop.
I have an acer aspire e5-511-p0gc
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-15-6-Aspire-Laptop-E5-511-P0GC/dp/B00ODERZ8E/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1458430301&sr=8-6&keywords=acer+aspire+e5+511
That guy.
I have pretty good battery life, and use it while I'm learning programming, I was wondering if swapping out its 1tb drive for a 128gb ssd would add much to the battery life if I'm using it for something like programming?
>>53578532
I've never seen a more hideous laptop jesus christ
>>53578579
The aspect ratio is nicer than anything Lenovo's been shitting out though.
Funny thing, my x301 is actually lighter than the surface book which is weird. The x301 was so close to my ideal laptop, too bad about the screen and battery life.
>>53562509
Ah the cheap chink shit posing as quality meme...
Hey /tpg/ I have a pretty puzzling question.
So currently I own a kitted out T400 with the dGPU. It does great for everything I like to do but being able to play games and run multiple monitors well from it would be really cool for when I visit my parents and things.
So I looked into an eGPU setup and in my search the Advanced Dock came up. Problem is, there isn't a definitive list of what is and isn't supported by it.
Does anyone have experience with these? It seems like a neater and cheaper option than an external GPU mount and such. It doesn't need to be a great card so long as it is capable of basic games and multitasking (even my old GT220 I have lying around would be enough).
Which laptop models does the Lenovo Superfish spyware/malware/botnet affect?
HOW DO I CONVERT MY X220T TO BLUETOOTH 4.0?
>>53579102
New bluetooth card or expresscard extension.
>>53578943
Actually I'm wondering about this too.
>>53578943
>>53579439
It's a bit buried so I won't berate you for not reading the OP:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkPad_Advanced_Dock
There's a list of supported models at the bottom.
My question is -- what's the best video card that will fit in it that's reasonable considering the bus limitation?
>tfw auction is about to end and the price is still great
>>53579891
I lost, but at least that last second bid war cost the winning asshole a good $40 extra. So I still feel good.
What the hell is this listing??
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-14-TouchScreen-Ultrabook-Intel-i5-128-GB-SSD-Win-8-1-/111941720408?hash=item1a103f1958:g:wHMAAOSwu1VW7fn-
>>53580597
>more then 10 available
should i?
>>53580597
Just got 4. I'm going in for more.
>>53580729
I won't be greedy. I only got 6.
>>53580755
Surely that'll be cancelled when they realise their mistake
>>53580755
Ok. I lied. I got 8.
>>53580597
Am I about to be keked?
>acpitz-0 : temp1
>coretemp-0 : Physical id 0
>"" : Core 0
What are the physical positions of the temperature sensors?
(T430 specifically, but I'm assuming it doesn't change all that much across the same series)
>>53580711
just got one and a y series gayming laptop to replace my shitty G50-80.
>>53580788
it's a risk we are willing to take
Why have Lenovo stopped making laptops like pic related?
I got one about 10 days ago off eBay in basically pristine condition, its like its been used for 2 weeks then just put in a box and left for the rest of the time until it was sold again.
Its a brilliant size and looks great, the size of it means its much more comfortable to use the trackpoint and its buttons, its got decent power and its just brilliant, its my favorite ThinkPad.
Its basically an updated x121e, the shell is identical minus the silver accenting.
>>53580828
If I wasn't in the UK I would also, but I wouldnt get my hopes up
>>53580828
>it's a risk we are willing to take
Just checked on PayPal, the email for the seller isn't registered, he has other listings for dirt cheap items like this, seems very scammy.
>>53580978
I'm confident in PayPals buyer protection. Between them and AmEx, I should be able to get my money back.
>>53580828
Seller does not offer returns. You are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee if you received an item that is not as described in the listing.
Hes probably going to spam sales and dip with what ever eBay lets through.
>>53580597
Can you get a PayPal refund or is a way that they can prevent you. He only has 20 sales so this looks like a scam.
>>53581078
eBay doesn't release the money to a new seller until 3 days after the tracking number has been marked as delivered. So how could he scam? His listings are copied straight from Lenovo though.
>>53581078
they are described as new, so if i get shipped a brick in a box, im probably ok right?
>>53581130
You aren't getting shipped anything m8.
