/wt/ watch thread:
This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that is required to make a fine watch.
Required viewing for newbies:
https://youtu.be/508-rmdY4jQ
Previous thread:
>>53540157
Just got my 5 perlons from cheapestnato. One hundred times more comfortable than natos, but a little fidgety to do the strap up.
Posted this last thread right when it died, really enjoying it.
>>53564006
Bracelet a bit tight there fella?
Any watch with similar shape? Thats a 39mm. Im thinking of explorer 14270...but meanwhile what kind of watch you guys suggest?
>pic related my gf quartz
>>53564051
No, I'm just turning my wrist.
Looking for new watch, do any of u have suggestions
> currently own an Armani chronograph watch (pic related)
> also own a digital g shock
> looking for a new chronograph watch that is very durable and reliable. Work in a warehouse doing a lot of manual labor, so I want a time piece that looks good, but can also take somewhat of a beating
> I need something below $200 (minimum wage + college expenses + gas = not a lot of funds)
> I was looking at some Timex ones, but if you have any better suggestions, please let me know.
>>53564115
SSB025/027.
>>53563954
Have bought a ton of straps from there, sophie making me spend 40 on retarded colors because of the 5 for 4 deal
>>53563954
How are they comfort wise? I've heard that their perlons are not nearly as nice as EULIT perlons.
FYI: A 40mm AUTOMATIC feels enormous after wearing vintage Seikos for a while.
>>53564504
I've never tried a eulit perlon. I just heard praise for perlons and decided to go with 5 of them. It's definitely a stiff material, but it doesn't bother me at all. All of my natos feel worse in terms of comfort, and never sit on my wrist the I want it to. As soon as I put the perlon on I could immediately feel a change in comfort coming from natos. I also got the regular, non-adjustable ones.
i got this new
I'm looking for a field watch.
Around 36-39mm. Budget of $1000. Don't mind quartz or mech. Prefer new. No Seiko 5s. Pic related is my ideal but I can't find it new.
No Hamilton.
I've seen most of Marathon, really leaning towards it.
>>53565329
Why no hamilton? It's almost identical to this.
Is Bernhardt any good? Looking at the Binnacle Anchor III. I just wish it had different hands.
>>53565404
Not him but hamiltons are really boring looking, I don't get people spending 300+ on them
>>53565404
I just don't like the name. I know this guy named Hamilton and he's a twat
Was just out at a bar and met a guy who works at hodinkee. First person to notice my watch
what's the right tool for spring bars for a collection that's got both pierced and non-pierced lugs?
>>53565907
Wasn't Ben though, right?
>>53565907
aren't they at basel
>>53565917
A regular spring bar tool. Mine is like this but cheap and Chinese, you can use the fork side to get under the lugs for non-drilled lugs or use the round side for drilled lugs. It also has interchangeable tips with different sized forks and stuff. What does your spring bar tool look like that it wouldn't work with any kind of lugs?
>>53565939
>>53565941
No he's a dev on their new sales platform.
Though I am friends with Jack Forster otherwise
>>53566039
i don't have one yet. the few times i changed my watch with pierced lugs, i made do with a paperclip and a razor blade.
>no end links
>regular PVD, not DLC
>4250 CHF
>not even SUPERLATIVE
This is worse than just getting a regular black bay and sending it off to get custom coated later, at least they can do proper DLC.
>>53565329
Why does it seem that Seiko used to make better watches in the past?
>>53565329
My issue with tritium lume is that it has a useful lifespan of ~20 yrs or so. Lots of watches get handed down to the next generation, with tons of people wearing watches from the 50s-70s. I choose to not have a feature on my watch that has a limited lifespan. I don't need lume, I need a watch that, with proper care, will last more than a lifetime.
Your needs and choices may vary.
Good luck with whatever watch you decide on.
>>53566236
Because you want what you can't have
>>53563954
I think it looks great.
What was the watch that everyone recommended on aliexpress? I forget the name
What's a good quartz watch for a starter who isn't ready for the commitment of having to maintain a manual/automatic watch yet? No Casio please.
>>53564115
Seagull 1963
>>53566039
is it worth it to get the caliper-type spring bar tools?
also did AP come out with anything neat at Baselworld?
bulova curv chronograph
>>53566469
Depends what style you want and your budget.
Anyone actually like those square Bell&Ross watches?
>>53564173
This, Seiko 6t63 movements may be quartz, but the chrono is still hibeat and instant reset like many mechs have.
Hoping the orange one looks good on the ob explorer ii.
>>53566395
Just search bagel
>>53566692
People with more money than taste
>>53566676
I'm fine with both analog and digital, but definitely not with rectangular analogs. Budget is $60.
>>53566849
Timex Easy Reader.
>>53566160
The dial is also worse than the normal black bay. Why go to three lines of straight text and go back to the shield logo?
>>53567490
>>53566849
Yeah the cheap Timex are good. Expedition, Weekender. Just keep in mind they they tick pretty loudly.
Are expensive (200$+++) replicas worth it?
>>53567757
Nah man.
>>53567562
I hate nearly every new model from every watchmaker except for a few seamasters.
>>53565329
How about a SARG007?
What is /g/'s opinion on automatic quartz like Seiko Kinetics?
http://www.watchuseek.com/baselworld-2016-citizen-live-report/
New Eco-Drive is pretty skinny.
>>53564533
Can relate to that.
SKX feels fuckhuge after wearing the qt LM special for a while.
>>53568262
That's pretty cool,
I didn't realize the watchuseek website has a huge fucking banner at the top covering half the god damn screen.
That was difficult to read.
>>53567820
>>53567847
why tho? i saw this and my dick got hard
http://puretime01.com/seamster-300-spectre-limited-edition-v6f-best-edition-on-007-nylon-strap-a8400.html
>>53568565
because it's a fucking fake
>>53568565
No. Just no. You asked if it was worth it and we replied with an answer. You're trying to convince yourself already so why ask us. I say yeah, go and waste your money on some shit tier rep, I'm sure it'll come in peak condition with just as good of quality as an original Omega :^)
>>53568565
A not even tapwater proof Seamaster
Buying fakes is emberassing
>>53567757
The highest end ones are objectively the cheapest for anodized aluminium, ceramic or carbon composite parts or full cases with sapphire, AR, movements with jumping hour and long power reserve etc etc. Though paying $400+ and getting chink QC and then no one to return it to isn't all that neat. $200 won't give you much more than a Parnis with nicer finishing at best. Definitely the cheapest way to get a new microrotor (that'll break after a short time and be serviced by no one).
:^)
>>53568681
>non-saturation diving tier waterproofing is difficult or expensive
You can say a lot about replicas but I'd rather buy that than a laughably overpriced genuine model like that. Clearly, a vast majority buy it for the aesthetic and won't actually dive with it regardless Not that it's at all relevant to me since I don't want nor particularly like the model.
>>53568780
Post SBGD001 any any textured dials
>>53566325
The perlon from cheapestnatostraps has the shittiest shink quality ever.
>>53568451
Have you seen their mobile site? It tries to work like an app in a browser and not only I seem not to be able to use context menu (only registers taps, not holds), but it makes my phone heat up like I was playing games on it (IIRC more than watching Youtube or whatever).
>>53564533
What ref is the AUTOMATIC?
It looks great tho
>>53568787
>>53568681
>>53568612
>>53568661
AS the guy who made pic related, the boardanon guide which was one of the few pieces of actual work to come out of this thread I must say I'm heavily disappointed in the degeneration of these threads
>LOL ETA IS SHIT
>Everything that is Swiss is shit
>reps are all Canal Street tier tourist shit with 0 craftsmanship LOL
>Seiko is the greatest watch brand ever and literally does nothing wrong lmao
>lol being anything but a poorfag is shit
>lol Nomos is bad because other people like it
These are basically /tv/ levels of contrarian for is own sake
There are many high quality fake watches:
http://time.com/money/4207990/how-to-tell-rolex-fake/?xid=frommoney_soc_socialflow_facebook_money
The reason for this is largely the Chinese domestic market, where rich embezzlers or people who want to become somebodies need expensive watches (or things which approximate it). There's also nerds who like getting close to the real thing because autism. Regardless the point is most reps go inside China or other countries, either to people who want to climb the social ladder or those already at the top who need something convincing to give.
He also posted puretime which is a real dealer who will include real water pressure testing.
I don't even like fakes, they're not my thing but fuck do some research rather than buying ebin menes and think for yourselves.
And newsflash: ETA may be overpriced, but it isn't shit. I'll say this much: many companies buying ETA, even Steinhart, are much better than the 9 gorillion 100% made overseas watch companies on Kickstarter.
This isn't even taking into account that, yes, many "Swiss" watches are in fact majority Swiss. In a global economy many parts are guaranteed to be Chinese until you pay top dollar. It sucks but it's a fact.
>>53568780
Niiiiiice
>>53569150
SDGM003
I'm also considering getting one myself.
>>53569163
Ya know, this version of the guide is pretty decent.
A few things to add, both the vintage Soviet mechanicals and the Amphibia's suffer the same long shipping time.
And despite being the one who suggested the Glashutte originally, it can be changed to general vintage Swiss/German/Czech/European watches. So many different brands to choose from and you could easily score vintage watches that were actually made in Switzerland entirely.
>>53569163
>ETA is shit
It actually is though. All of the supposed "innovations" it has introduced in the last 10-20 years have made the movements graced with them objectively worse. ETA literally peaked with the 2824-2, 2892-A2 and Lemania 5100.
>Reps are shit
Why would you trust people engaging in large scale fraud to treat you fairly or produce a quality product?
>Seiko is the greatest
They are pretty good though. From BTFO'ing the Swiss at the Observatory competitions to a whole slew of horologically innovations, they are certainly able to hold their own.
>Nomos
I agree with you here. Even if the designs aren't my cup of tea, they should be celebrated for innovating in this age of boring, vulgar, marketing driven watches. They designed an ultra thin automatic movement from scratch after all.
Are smartwatches a gimmick?
>>53569163
>high quality
it's still a fucking fake. it could be literally identical and it would still be a fucking fake.
>>53569314
Pretty much. I'm guessing some specific people can have legitimate use out of it, but for the general public they're pretty useless, given how expensive they are.
>>53569163
A lot of people here make the legitimate argument that using a relatively cheaper movement and marking it up exorbitantly generally represents a bad value.
Others who don't know much about watchmaking see that and falsely assume ETA = bad.
ETA obviously has benefits though - namely a quality movement at a good cost and presumably the ability to get them serviced easily since there is a lot of volume out there.
>>53569163
Could you upload all the images and text or just the .psd?
Also how about that rep guide :Δ)
>>53569311
>It actually is though
Except innovation is different from production. Those movements themselves are actually good and, before their dick business decisions, a good value.
However this anon put it succinctly
>>53569388
The 2824 and 2892 are great they're just overpriced. I don't debate that at all, however I think ETA has many advantages.
I got shekeled $600 just to get my Sinn serviced because it broke the crystal. Had it been muh in house it would have cost double for the same performance.
>Seiko are pretty good though
Nobody's debating this
What is being debated is that people shill and defend them not only ad nauseam, but without reason here. Some of their designs are SHIT. They make a lot of their money selling ugly, boring SHIT to the masses. Oh sure, they innovated and continue to do so. But their parts policy for GS is pantsu-on-headu retarded.And this isn't even getting into the fact that people bitch about "wah Swiss made isn't made in Switzerland" then ignore when the beloved SARB family is largely made in Malaysia
Not that SARB's aren't good. But they're treated like the 2nd coming. In reality, truly and really, they're comparable to any mid-range $500 "Swiss" watch and are often just as "Japanese." They win because of having better designs and Swatch jewry raising the price.
However a basic Hamilton or Tissot is, in essence, the same thing. And yes, no matter how boring some of those designs they do have large scale in-Switzerland production.
>Nomos
I agree with you I don't like their designs too much as it's ripped off in totality from a famous 1924 Lange but they're still a good company. People shit on them for the wrong reason - LOL IT'S POPULAR SO IT"S SHIT
What they should be focused on is: it's a good watch, but popularity is significantly driving the price up so its value is now obscured.
>>53569576
Here's movement guide
I never got to midrange and rep guide due to working and the bickering.
>>53569321
>t. Richemont Group
>>53569610
>2016
>expecting high quality watch discussions on 4chan out of all places
>>53569610
I meant something editable.
t. guy who offered to edit the guides like 3 months ago
>>53569651
It's honestly better in these threads than many, many watch forums.
Average non-shitpost here is miles ahead the average post on WUS, Rolexforums, Network54, TZ-UK, RWI or KS just to name a few I've actually checked. Though there's a lot more shitposting.
>>53568803
Sorry, it was nowhere to be found. You can have the first GS ever made instead.
>>53570206
Neat!
It's their newest microstudio platinum spring drive ref which I thought they'd show off.
http://www.grand-seiko.com/collection/sbgd001/
>>53570350
Yeah, it's fucking awesome, and I'm also puzzled as to why I couldn't find it.
Only 8 of them will be made, if I recall correctly.
>>53570455
Did you go to ACHI / ching chong watch ltd too?
>>53565559
I have never seen anyone else on /wt/ with a bernhardt.
I like mine enough to give you a quick and dirty
Good
>case and bracelet are well made
>held up to surfing and swimming in Puerto Rico
>the hands are better in person
Bad
>Miyota 8215 is subpar at best, don't pay full price if you can help it
>lume is shoddily applied, takes a lot of light to charge and doesn't last at all
>the gayest lugs/fake end links in the history of watches leading you to ONLY be able to use the original bracelet.
I'd buy a bernhardt again but not my anchor. They make watches with better movements that don't have the retarded lugs
>>53570521
The font looks like something out of an indie Diablo clone
>>53568813
It still feels one hundred times better than a nato.
>>53570474
Didn't go to Ching Chi, sorry.
My stop at AHCI was also quite brief, as there was way too many people there, to get a close look at the wristwatches.
You can have this AHCI UFO, though.
>>53570561
it's a bad lord of the rings font
>>53570521
The corsair ii looks nice and it is upgraded, but I already have way too many divers.
>>53570521
https://www.bernhardtwatch.com/
Great website, too.
If it wasn't for the watches on the website, I'd guessed, just from the aesthetics, that it was a 12-yo's blog about live action roleplaying.
>>53564006
Bracelet is top notch, really well made. that dial tho
>unnecessary/huge bezel that makes the watch bigger and creates bad proportions
>ugly hands, only the seconds hand is really nice
>that blank middle plate needs some texturing, contrasting the lines
>AUTOMATIC print looks cheap and out of place
>date window needs to go
BUT
It's still fine for the price you prolly paid. Still better than swiss cock sucking faggots who buy some dogshit tissot and praise it here like the second coming of christ.
>>53570575
what is this sorcery??
>>53570661
Coordinates at end lead to:
https://www.google.de/maps/place/47%C2%B037'00.0%22N+7%C2%B036'54.0%22E/@47.6167483,7.6149561,63m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0
Next level swag
>>53570830
No. Back to your hole, namefag.
>>53568262
The only innovation here is that such a movement will be packed into hard to open case. The slimmer battery will get empty faster and of course you will have to send it in to get it changed or else you lose the warranty.
If i were citizen i'd
>give slim movm. watches a long warranty period of like 7 years, but exclude battery changes and damage to the glass
>make it hard to service
>jack up the prices for these slim, proprietary batteries
Voila, you built a money printing machine.
Normies will buy it because of muh warranty and send it in every year for an expensive bat. change.
Why bother living without this?
And of course. Every single watch holder can be set to rotate, as to keep your automatic watches alive.
>>53570561
>>53570591
The hobbit text doesn't bother me as much as the other negatives. Most of bernhardts 9015 powered watches are probably good buys especially slightly used for a hundred off the pricetag.
I have heard their diver bezels are loud and tinny though
>>53570928
>as to keep your automatic watches alive
Ironically, this will kill the watch faster. The movement is constantly working and will need a service faster.
Sometimes it can be annoying to always set the date on an auto watch, after you did not wear it for some time. But i'd rather not set the date than replace worn out parts after only 5 years.
>>53570834
>Back to your hole, namefag.
U mean you're mom?
>>53571014
I think anybody who can afford >>53570928 and have enough watches to fill all the spots, don't need to worry about the costs of servicing his watches.
I sort of want this
http://toureiffel.sainthonore.com/en/tour-eiffel/1852-tour-eiffel-42-mm-automatic.html
Just so I can see "Wanna see my Eiffel Tower?" without being a disgusting sleezebag.
>>53567820
>>53567847
I wish you guys even knew what you were talking about, however I'm glad the highest quality replicas aren't known to the wide public.
>>53571134
Agreed. And it's perfectly fine, still pretty dumb, if i were that rich, i would waste my money on more fun things than collecting shit. Good god, you live only for so little years on this planet, how little fun would you want to have during this time?
>>53571276
My best guess is that the people who are serious about collecting watches, do it because it's an expensive hobby in which you need to invest very little time, compared to travelling and such. Mainly because they don't have time for the time-consuming things.
Pure speculation, though. I'm as poor as the next Seiko-owning anon in here.
>>53571183
wow, that's awful
Anything less than a Rolex is shit.
>>53571316
Agreed. I have also one, they are boring people. And also love to show off the collection to similar boring folks at parties.
I'm not hating on people with money, but i just don't get it. There is so much more to be done, if you have money.
How much will it go up?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Used-Tudor-Heritage-Ranger-Field-Watch-/121922482665?hash=item1c632571e9:g:de0AAOSwu1VW5FBE
>>53571332
Less in what way?
And why?
Please enlighten us.
Hey /g/entoomen. Someone posted a picture of a white Casio f91-w that was an Olympic edition. It might have been a 1980something Olympic edition Casio. It was blue with red and white stripes on it. Does anyone know what i'm talking about?
>>53570928
I keep one per house, filled with high quality replicas
>>53571378
>How can different people like different things? I just don't get it.
>>53571379
It's already above what I'd pay for it.
>>53571379
I'm guessing it'll go for less then 2k.
>>53571401
Yeah. I'm too lazy to browse through the archive on mobile, but it was in response to an anon about a watch that fits the style of an old microcomputer. I also mentioned the Blade Runner watch and some Casio, so that should have enough keywords to find it.
It also wasn't the terrorist Casio itself, but some of the later iterations.
>>53571262
Let's see your high quality fake then. Every time someone posts their 1:1 SUPER HIGH QUALITY 100% AS GEN REP it looks like garbage. All I know is I've never actually seen a wrist shot of someone wearing a fake watch that doesn't look like a fake.
You're not the guy with that pelagos that has lume haphazardly caked on all over the bezel, are you?
>>53569610
Err.. That Swiss Made part is incorrect.
As of a few years ago, it's actually 60%.
Also, the movement must be made in Switzerland, must be cased up in Switzerland and the final inspection must find place in Switzerland.
Should perhaps also state there's a big difference between "Swiss Made" and "Swiss Movement".
http://www.victorinoxwatches.com/en/2015/10/swiss-made-what-does-it-actually-mean/
>>53572284
They also have fun weird rules like the movement may not exceed 50mm width, or 12mm height.
>>53572284
>base grade ETA put into chinese made case glanced at by extra working Swiss student
>>53572360
Yes, yes. We get it.
Japan > Russia > Germany > India > Rest > Switzerland.
We know.
>>53572386
That's not at all what I said.
Just that SWISS MADE is extremely abused.
If they hadn't added the canton requirement to the Geneva Seal, it'd still be a a great and actually used seal of something being truly Swiss and well made.
I own no Seikos and English is my third language :^)
>>53570653
Actually the dial is my favorite part. The middle is a sunburst texture, and the ring is an actual cut into the dial the indices bridge over. It catches direct light very beautifully with the different surface types and the hands change color depending on the angle. The chapter ring is really my beef with it, its too big and there's the wrong number of ticks on it. The bracelet is fucking blowing my mind with how comfortable it is, now I understand what people mean when you can definitely feel the difference between a really nice bracelet and an okay one.
>>53572481
Movement is pretty nice looking too.
>>53572555
digging the Citizen Phoenix on the rotor.
Not really showing off jewels or anything
>>53571780
Can you even tell the flaws?
99.9% of the population wouldn't even know it's a fake. Most plebs even confuse 150$ grade shit subs for gens.
>>53573236
For untrained eyes, one is gen, one is rep. They're totally worth the thousands of dollars difference right?
>>53572555
That looks pretty nice and the 9015 is a good movement but every time I see that watch I can't help but think it's an uglier SARX
>>53572432
>third
1 and 2?
>>53569163
Thanks for all the info! and thanks to all who replied.
I do not just want to buy a rep without knowing somethings about it before hand, so sorry if i sound dumb or w/e i just dont know that much about watches or the mechanics of who/what makes a good watch.
i figured im gonna spend around 300$ on a watch, so why not a watch i find to be stunnning, and since i cannot afford the real seamaster 300 limited edition, i figured i might try a knockoff instead.
but im still learning this stuff, so the replies you guys are coming with are greatly appreciated and im learning as i go!
so far from what i do understand is that some of these replicas are actually really really well done.
im also curius about a 900$ Patek i found, a replica that costs 900$ must be either very well made or the biggest scam since sliced bread.
thanks 4chan.
>>53573836
>a replica that costs 900$ must be either very well made or the biggest scam since sliced bread
You couldn't have described it better. Though why go for a replica instead of a genuine good looking watch?
I got quite a bit of compliments on both my Orient Ray and even my Amphibia.
>>53573836
The only reps that I have seen that are very good are all subs. They are so popular and they have been making them so long that they are something close to good at it by now.
Pateks, APs and other high ends might be harder to replicate because they don't have the infrastructure to do so
SMARTWATCH FTW
>>53573950
>>53573905
>>53573836
If you want a Rep because there's nothing else with that aesthetic go for it
I wouldnt pay that much for the Patek though, there are some good Patek at that much but you may as well just go full nigger and get the Royal Oak Offshore for that much
The best reps are some of the Noob factory Rolex, but don't forget that theres other great reps. Primarily Hublot, IWC, Bell and Ross and Audemars Piguet. I'd actually state some of those reps are truly incredible on the face and indistinguishable, factories like Noob and ZF can even make ceramic cases. Some of the Royal Oak Offshore are 800 dollars and they are actually works of superb fakery
But think about it: this lines up with the reality of the Asian market. Obly the flashiest, most expensive/prestigious watches people want to show off wealth get repped
why buy a rep? shitty quality, not waterproof, likely to break or stop working for no reason. Yes, esthetically they may look the same but you will always know deep down you have a piece of dog shit on your wrist.
Is where a watch as good and cheap as komandirskie, but not from Russia?
>>53574836
Vintage Komandirskies come from the USSR instead.
>>53574836
>>53574876
Or most other vintage soviet watches.
But the other options are either going to be vintage, or at 45~60 bucks or so.
>>53574836
That's mechanical? No
That's quartz? A fair amount
>>53574836
There are many good cheap quartz watches.
>>53574836
Seiko 5 if you're into Malaysian child labour
>>53571017
>you're mom
He's mom?
Best watch incoming
>>53575638
That watermark is strangely appropriate for this thread.
Drawanon here, its been a while. Decided i may as well find something to pass the time and decided 'Hey maybe I'll design a watch with the power of autisum'. I'm planning on drawing a completely new design and i hope to at least come up with an interesting design. It wont be anything too spectacular in CAD etc, just some sketches. So any advice on what /wt/ would like to see in a watch? Should it be a divers, or a dress etc watch? Should it have a textured dial? Should it have a chronograph feature? Etc etc. basically I'd like /wt/ to describe what they'd like to see in their design and I'll go through with drawing it whenever am free of time.
>>53575863
rare pepe on the caseback
>>53575882
Or watch waiting Akari.
>>53575882
Kek didn't plan to draw the back of the watch, mainly a side view of the dial and the watch.
>>53575947
A complication that makes akari rock from left to right at the press of a button.
>>53575991
Like Ulysse Nardin's minute repeater!
>>53564060
Your gf has quite a manly arm.
>mfw all this stainless
step up family
Sap /wt/, I tried the /fa/ thread a few time before I thought to check here, and I don't know shit about watches, but I know that they're fucking idiots over there.
Anyway, got a promotion at work and I'm gonna get myself a real watch. I've been wearing some old stuff I got at a garage sale for cheap, looks nice, but nothing good. All I know is like Rolex and Omega, people shill those all the time, but is that a real life meme?
Looking to spend $1000-1500. Thoughts or flames?
>>53577034
What are you looking for, apart from a "real" watch?
Rolex watches are actually very good. They may be a little overpriced, but you're not getting ripped off compared to other luxury brands.
Omega is a different story. A phrase that's often used around here to describe them is "asking 90% of Rolex's prices for 10% of the effort". Their watches are not terrible - although this varies depending on the models - but they're mostly driven by marketing.
That being said, if there's an Omega design you really like, it wouldn't be a bad watch by any means. Just be aware that the price isn't totally reflected in the quality of the watch.
For $1500, you're not getting a new Rolex, by the way. Are you considering vintage, new, both? Is the brand being well known a factor for you?
>>53577034
That price range chronometers are available. So if you're buying new you can get one of those. Otherwise great vintage pieces can be got for under 1500.
Well /wt/, domed or flat?
Personally I'm a domefag.
>>53577237
by the way, some of us really needs to find a good deal on a good condition Curvex. You could get some stellar pieces for under 1500, assuming you can find one.
>>53577257
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Flat sapphire or domed acrylic are both the best options depending on the style of watch, mineral glass is a shitty worst of both worlds middle ground where it still gets scratched a lot but can't be polished.
>>53577257
Flat crystals for tool watches, domed crystal for casual or dress watches.
>tfw when still not done regulating pic related.
>>53577257
Domed acrylic
Don't fall for the sapphire meme. It shatters quite easily. Happened to some guys Sinn on WUS, cost him a few hundred bucks to fix
>>53577343
Proud, chamfered flat or not?
>>53577343
>mineral glass is a shitty worst of both worlds middle ground where it still gets scratched a lot but can't be polished.
And shatters into six million sharp pieces.
>>53577362
>Flat crystals for tool watches
B-but my Amphibia is domed.
>>53577388
I don't get why mineral glass is so prevalent now.
>>53577004
I feel like that design with gold makes for a gaudy watch. I like gold dress watches
>>53577532
Cheap, and normies are too lazy to handle the responsibility of regularly polishing acrylic to keep it in good shape. Now that sapphire is easily available and not very expensive I don't see what advantages mineral glass has. I guess it's less reflective than uncoated sapphire is, but I'll take glare over scratches.
Domes sure are fun to look at though.
>>53577004
>cheap shit
>>53577532
It's not really. It's just a matter of price.
Most people's lifestyle is such that scratches are a bigger threat than shattering. So basically you want the most scratch resistant watch crystal for 98% of watches.
That means plastic/acylic for watches much under 50, mineral crystal for stuff under 200ish depending how cheap you can get the movement/case and then some form of sapphire past that.
The other 2% of watches don't follow that rule because they're going for a heavy dome or hesalite moonwatches. The natural taper of a domed crystal certainly slides under a cuff more nicely than a case of the same height.
>>53577676
Are there any other nice watches that use hesalite or is it only the speedy MOTM
>>53577257
Domed always. Even a very slight dome is acceptable.
>>53578057
A lot of vintage pieces use acrylic. As for modern watches with acrylic, there's not much I know of. A few sinn models, obligatory MAN ON THE MEEEEUUUUUUN, and that's all I can think of at the moment.
>>53578057
Hesalite was ordered by NASA because it doesn't splinter, it's a type of plexiglass. I don't know of any other watches that use specifically hesalite.
>>53578196
Junghans uses em a lot
>>53577142
Vintage is fine, I even like the look of some older watches. As far as "real" I'm looking for more quality over name, I don't care about people seeing it. I want it more for me you follow?
>>53577237
Chronometers, have multiple dials on the face right? I'm not in love with that look. It seems busy. I like a simple style.
My dad has a old Rolex that I specifically do not like the look of, watch and band. I'll try and find an example of it.
>>53578802
>Chronometers, have multiple dials on the face right
No, a chronometer a movement certified by the Contrôle Officiel Suisse des Chronomètres (aka COSC) to be highly accurate, adjusted for position and temperature.
You're thinking of a chronograph.
>>53578802
>he doesn't know what a chronometer watch is
>>53578869
>not a superlative chronometer
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>>53577257
Domed acrylic
>>53578869
Nah, that's not specifically important to me, I def want mechanical, because just the mechanisms behind how that is put together astounds me. But I don't need anything certified. As long as it doesn't make me late I'm fine.
>>53578880
Nigga, I literally said I don't know shit. I was looking on /fa/ before I thought of /g/ for watches.
Also, here's the Rolex. Not exactly the same. But I'm not a real fan.
>>53578984
>Nah, that's not specifically important to me,
I'm just telling you what you can look for in your price range as some sort of assurance of quality and focus on mechanics of the watch rather than buying some fashion piece of dogshit.
>>53579049
Oh, gottcha. Would it be too much to ask for a short list of some quality brands? And I check out their new and used in my price range.
Draw anon back, heres my first attempt at a concept i just made up of a watch dial. Am starting off simple since I've never drawn a watch before in my life (as it shows in the lack of measurements i probably should've taken into account as you can spot such as the lugs being fucked up and the center of the hands). Any feedback, mostly about how shit my drawing is will be appreciated. Hopfully I'll make a few better concept drawings soon that I'll spend more time on.
>>53579263
generic/10
>>53579133
Most any brand has shit not worth buying. And used/vintage could be a 6 years Master's course just to scratch the surface.
Tissot and Mido both have chronometers in the price range. But for the most part there's not much going on, in terms of new watches, between 500 dollars and 3k. You can spend like 500 dollars on a Seiko Sarb, or Sarx, or get a hamilton Khaki or something. And for the most part going up to like 2.5k you have inexplicably more expensive watches that often have no mechanical difference and reflect very marginal differences between those 500 dollar models. Then once you get to like 3K you start to get unique pieces that bring new things to the table. The one exception is around 1k you can get a chronometer, which is why I bring it up.
Also, for around 1.6k you can get a Grand Seiko 9F quartz. That's worth mentioning as well.
>>53579263
>>53579314
also get a compass or learn to draw cirlces famagusta
and use your ruler for the hour marks
>>53579314
Gotta start somewhere/10
>>53579333
Will do anon, just need more practice with drawing watches.
>>53579323
Sweet, thanks for all the info.
As for the quartz I'll pass, the idea of mechanical is too cool to pass up, even if that's dumb.
>for around 1k you can get a chronometer
Rad, I'll check out Tissot, already looked at some of them and I like the style. Any specific to avoid?
>feels good
>>53579588
>same color scheme
>Pope looks better
So when are you planning on offing yourself?
>>53579588
It can't feel too good if you are wearing it on your hand instead of your wrist.
>>53577673
>36K
>cheap
>>53579705
Gottem.
Saving up for this masterpiece
The JG2002
>>53580715
Only $300
I need this.
>>53580715
I have the JG2000, it's a nice watch for the $150 I paid but definitely not worth twice that. It has some flaws, the bracelet being the most egregious. I put mine on a eulit perlon and it was much improved.
>>53580802
The JG2000 looks like dog shit desu senpai. The JG2002 on the other hand.
>>53580832
They're exactly the fucking same only the one you posted is hideous fake gold.
>>53580847
The gold makes it look glorious, faggot.
>>53577004
it's funny that you are saying that wearing the royal oak that was the first luxury watch to use stainless steel and exposed screws. Something unthinkable in that time and considered turbo pleb.
>>53579263
Could be pretty hot. Do another and actually use proper drawing tools. Get the checker aligned in the center. Align the indices. I like the points on the hands. Dunno about the tail of the seconds hand, or the dot below the 12. Maybe have that index pointed like the hands.
>>53581483
Thanks for the feedback. Once i do a fully fleshed out drawing i was planning on making the dial blue pattern (where the darker areas are a darker blue and lighter areas a light blue of corse) wouldn't look too bad in red or white either.
The idea with the index being pointed with the hands isn't bad idea though, only reason i added the dot was to distinguish which was the 12 hour mark since i didn't want to ruin the dial pattern with any branding, date or sub dials (which i may leave to another design). Maybe i could either do a completely straight seconds hand or add one of the diamond checkard shapes on the dial to the tail of the seconds hand, could be pretty neat. I need some advice on how i should do the case and lugs though since i wasn't too sure what to go with. Once i get more gear together (i only had a pencil, pen, ruler and a shitty rubber with me) I'll do a more accurate concept. But any advice for lugs and case? I think the crown is alright on it, cant do much with the crown, i tried an onion styled crown first but looked retarded and took away from what i wanted to be the main focus of the watch, which was the dial.
I'll try to get more stuff together and practice more with drawing watches since I've never drew a watch before compared to what i studied a while ago in art. I hope to one day create something pretty neat.
>>53581732
Two toned blue might be more tacky, rather than just a texture of raised and lowered squares, or matte and gloss squares. You want it to be subtle, so the watch is still easy to ready. At a glance it would look like a solid plane of blue.
The 12 index could also be slightly thicker like my watch above.
A simple symbol-based logo in a single one of the squares could suit for branding. I find any symbols on the second hand tail tacky in most cases. A diamond might work. If the hand is kept mostly physically balanced for sake of the movement, a shape on the long end of the hand like my red dot above can look nice too.
The case isn't bad as is. It reminds me of the Helvetica, although dropping the stupid "1" shaped lug lines it has. Perhaps instead of having the surface of the bezel being flat across like pictured here, the line you have drawn between the dial and case edge could be a raised point. Also unlike the picture here there would be no line separating the bezel and case, or it at least wouldn't be visible from above.
>>53581946
Another example, kind of the bezel style I'm getting at. I'm not sure exactly how to the join the edge of the crystal of the bezel, perhaps also with a thin chapter ring or something.
>>53577034
Do you have any preferences ? Since you care more about quality than brand, you won't be one of those fags that scream "swiss only" and there's a huge selection then
Do you like divers, casual, dress, flieger, anything like that?
There's so many fucking styles of watches that I want but I can't decide on one.
>>53582577
Just take your time until you find a particular watch that really speaks to you.
>>53582607
Good advice - go try a few on
>>53569163
Why should people stop buying the SARB cocktail time? I thought it was well regarded here
What do you guys think of pic related
>>53582965
bambino is pretty well received overall.
>>53582320
Casual or dress. I dislike divers. And nah idk about Swiss only. Currently looking at Tissot
>>53582965
Is that an acrylic dome I see?
>>53579588
Could they make this watch any more simple and generic? No logos, arial font, everything flat and untextured, nothing unusual or interesting. I guess I can't even really dislike it because there's nothing to dislike, it's just the most boring bland watch ever.
>>53583276
Specs say it's hardened mineral crystal.
The orange doesn't look too bad, but the end is pretty burnt at the top. There was some jaggedness to the buckle end so I took a lighter and melted it down.
>>53583499
Nice memesplorer.
>>53583636
Thanks bud, you too.
>>53575947
mfw i'm actually waiting for a watch in the mail and cant use akari bacause of a duplicate file u fucking kike
>>53580953
stainless steel is not a precious metal. it does not have the properties or value of a precious metal, and it never will. AP came up with that idea to sell cheap watches to scrubs who couldn't afford their legit models
>>53584153
Then use a different one.
>tfw when i got 3 outgoing watches, and 1 incoming
Still though, wondering if i should trying getting a Cosmotron or an Amphibia, or wait for the Neptune in april.
>>53582965
would buy if the case wasn't the size of a pie plate. at 42mm it's kinda of large for my girlish wrists
>>53577004
>>53563934
>>53584249
>look at that clunky, ugly-ass watch
>damn I wonder how much that chinese watch costs, $5?
>hrm, the factory sure chose a fancy-ass euroname
>twenty one thousand fucking dollars
this is why I never really got into watches, even though I occasionally look through /wt/. The dumbest looking garbage slapped together by a retard will get worshiped just because it costs a lot
>>53567585
Anything without ticking noises?
>>53583023
Take a look at SARX015, it's much less than your budget but it can easily be used as a dress/casual watch, depending on your outfit
Maybe take a look at bauhaus(I think that's correct) Max Bill selection, they have some who aren't chronographs and they look pretty good, at least to me
>>53584688
Yep, you've figured it all out. Time to retire from the thread, there's nothing left for you here.
>>53584619
40.5mm
>>53584688
m9 you're looking at the price for a stainless steel watch. the all gold model pictured above goes for around 50 thousand dollars American
>>53584688
The AP Royal Oak was designed by Jean-Claude Biver, arguably the most respected watch designed in the world and the man who single handedly saved the Swiss watch industry from the quartz scourge
get the fuck out
>>53584688
>The dumbest looking garbage slapped together by a retard
I hate the design too, but you're just talking out of your ass. AP makes really good watches.
If you have the opportunity to try one on, I'd recommend it. The quality is not anything like your $250 Seiko.
Sup
>>53585079
>all that empty space
>>53585079
>compensating
>>53585079
What is this?
>>53585079
Nice, where's the button to open up the chewing gum storage?
>>53585109
I just googled "invicta garbage" to get some easy replies 2bh fämäläm
>>53585109
>>53585079
>Now introducing the new Tag Heuer "Town Clock"
>Designed in mind for self respecting Asian business man
>Impress all your friends by having a watch so heavy that you can't lift your arm
>Brand new in-house Tag caliber 26, which is completely not based on the NH26
>>53585140
>get some easy replies 2bh fämäläm
typical leddit shitting up the board
What's your watch for you? Timepiece? Slice of the time we all have? Nothing special? Investment? Luxury? Or is it crucial for your day to day businesses in some way?
>>53585197
Timepiece and jewellry.
Mainly jewellry, otherwise I would've just bought a cheap quartz Timex.
>>53585197
Need to show my swag off. The only person to ever look at it was some nerd trying to show off his nato strap
how is the Certina brand regarded? And are there movement accurate?
>>53585163
God my sides our drying, fucking kek.
>>53585079
That watch seems a bit too big for you anon :^)
Look at pic related. Notice how well the lugs curve with the wrist to make a snug and comfortable fit.
Notice how low profile the watch is to his wrist so he can easily pull his shirt over if need be but always has the convenience and class of a watch at his disposal.
Notice how the watch doesn't smother his wrist unlike yours which reminds you of that really fat girlfriend you met in college who you had sex with twice and then didn't talk to again.
Am sorry anon but that watch is just too big...Kinda like that girl you met back in college.
>Grand Seiko
>Large amount of Asian/Nip buyers with small wrists
>Most GS watches are 40 mm or larger
ayyy
SEIKO BTFO
>2016
>Buying inferior Jap shit
>not even once
>>53586314
That infographic isn't autistic enough to be /g/ approved famagusta
>>53581946
I like your raised and lowered squares idea anon. In a more accurate drawing I'll express the indexes a lot more better, they're actually slightly pointed simaler to a Seiko SARX015, but i will go through with the addition of an expressed point from the hands onto the 12 hour mark. As for the seconds hand i may use the Patek Philippe Calatrava's seconds hand instead where it gently expands to counter the balance of the seconds hand which i like more than the original moon tail. I think you're right with the case too, i wasn't a huge fan of the case and lugs but i do like the idea of a simple transition between the dial and glass to the case bezel.
Also that Helvetica doesn't look half bad for a smart watch. I might pull the trigger on one in the future since I've been looking for a watch to keep track of my health whilst i go to the gym. One of the things i hate about most smart watches is having to sacrifice the look of a watch for something autistic like a touch screen. I've looked everywhere for fitness watch straps so i could still wear my watch whilst having the fitness aspect, so all i had to do was change my watch strap to it but there's no smart straps that are within my price range. But that Helvetica really isn't that bad of a smart watch, it isn't in your face, still looks like a watch and has fitness tracking. Is the sub dial a date indicator and a power indicator?
>>53586532
You could just wear a mi band on the other wrist
>>53586572
I may now that've seen the price of the Helvetica. I could just get a Mi Band and wear it till i have the funds to get the Helvetica.
>>53586314
>spd
>instead of s/d
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>53586314
So let me get this straight: Seiko is literally the third most accurate brand measured WITH their results dragged down by 7s26s and 6r15s?
So basically that graphic says that if you only count Omega and up price points, Seiko BTFOs the other two?
And you failed to realize this?
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>>53586967
Nice try Seiko cuck.
>>53564006
Not all too often you see a mech Citizen. Very nice m8
>>53586981
Maybe we should add all of the Powermatic 80s and Swatch Sistem51s to Omega's results and see what happens? :^)
>>53586981
:^)
>tfw when new watch arrives.
