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Welcome to /flt/, we are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will literally work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
First for BSD
Second for Windows
Third for OS X
Forth for Alpine.
n-th for Xorg+mozilla+linux
n+1 for UNIX(tm)
>>53556449
I'm running out of bateman pictures for next threads. Fuck.
Please respond >>53556511
Thnx I now understand that you get more power using Linux and more freedom. But is it beter to use linux only for work or can i use it for my free time like gaming and watching movies. Because I know most games aren't compatibel with Linux.
>>53556545
you dual boot to windows for games
and be careful with the "freedom"
around these parts it might mean different things
Tell me all the bad things about manjaro, compared to arch
For example, what's one common package (office software?) that I can have on arch but not manjaro
>>53556563
Explain ???
>>53556595
well you first install windows, and then install whatever distro you want, it will take care of booting choice and detect windows
then you use linux for general shit, meaning almost everything, and for games or photoshop you boot to windows
>>53556587
The point of Arch is to tailor it to your needs and to avoid useless abstraction layers. By installing Manjaro you lose those two. If you really needed or wanted to use Arch as your operating system, you'd follow the 10 command beginner's guide and install it yourself while profiting from its basic idea.
To the guy who decrypted my mem snapshot: Well played. I've learned something today: I'm a faggot. Luckily I only found some stuff about my CPU after reversing.
>>53556674
Next time feed some urandom to it and you're fine.
Help:
>>53556648
>>53556718
KDE is great. Best DE bruh.
My awesome window manager has another set of workspaces on the top of my screen, how can I get rid of them? It's weird seeing another set of 1-9.
I have a luks home partition on Fedora. If I'm moving to arch would I mount this the same as any other home partition or is there an extra step?
>using GNU shit instead of superior alternatives
CVE-2014-6271, aka Shellshock, allowed complete compromise of systems running GANOO BASH. After looking at the 20 year old, shit spaghetti code researchers discovered CVE-2014-6277, CVE-2014-6278, CVE-2014-7169, CVE-2014-7186, and CVE-2014-7187. More secure/faster/better alternatives include csh, tcsh, and pdksh.
CVE-2015-7547, a glibc getaddrinfo() vulnerability that allows anyone able to send UDP packets to your computer to compromise it, affects basically EVERY PIECE OF SOFTWARE that uses GANOO glibc. More secure/faster/smaller/better alternatives include musl and uClibc.
>>53556513
Other stallmanposter here, I still got a few. I'm gonna make a few more in GIMP.
how does /g/ ensure battery life with linux?
>>53556513
Noooo. You always make my day with the ending of the thread and that I know I'm looking forward to the new one.Thanks for your hard work anyways.
>>53557074
Not running a DE.
>>53557074
Make sure to recharge them occasionally.
>>53557074
Download AAA+ trap porn daily and your hardware will have a healthy life.
I fucked up a Xubuntu install (yes I know, hold your applause) and now I just reclaimed the partition used by it
Never saw GRUB with my own eyes, Windows kept booting itself, do I still need to "fix the windows boot loader" when it was the only thing working the entire time?
Why not do it anyways you ask? Because I'm too lazy, I'm praying I get to save a few minutes of my life
>>53557090
It's not only me, others anons are helping. Feel free to join:checkem() {
curl -s "$1" | grep -Po "'\d+(\d)\1+'" | sort -u | sed "s/'\(.*\)'/>>\1/g"
}
>>53557151
I can barely understand what you're trying to say, is it
"do I need to remove GRUB after I've already removed my linux partitions?"
in case that's your question, no, GRUB is usually on your linux partitions, unless you specifically installed it on a separate /boot partition or even on the windows partition (I don't know if that's even possible)
>>53557203
From what I understand the Linux boot loader persists in some way because that's what it says on the guide to remove Ubuntu, requiring me to create a Windows system repair disc, rebooting and replacing the Linux boot loader with Windows'
But if it's as you say, then I won't need to do shit since it went poof with the rest of the Xubuntu partition
>>53557294
Kekekke. Post the one about macfag getting BTFO
>keyword: mother
>>53557031
>>53556502
>>53556494
>being an anti GNU shill in a GNU/Linux thread
lmaoing @ your life
>>53557401
>I have done your mother
Aw, yiss. This one always gets me.
>>53557294
>>53557401
Can always count on RMS to have the best jokes and comebacks.
>>53557425
>not getting actual /flt/ humor
>>53556855
Bump
>>53556820
Guess it's not very awesome then
>>53556820
Read the wiki, read the manual, edit the configs. For awesome: rc.lua. Please don't break it.
>>53557093
What do you use instead?
>>53557294
>Sended from myiPad (not dualbooted!).
Hah.
>>53557478
>m'lady
>>53557031
You know, what you call shellshock, we call freedom. GNU/Linux isn't made to deny things, instead it's made to run any program the way you want it to.
>>53557666
No it isnt.You even called it gnu/Linux.
You have to abide by stallmanss views or you're a heritic(not only using free(libre)softeare
>>53557031
Fill a bug report for rm.
It allows deleting all the files.
What's a good backup solution which can be used as following:
1. backup
2. restore
3. (optional) clone to other HDD (including fstab update automagically)
i've tried one time with rsync and a second time with some rsync based gui wrapper. I failed twice, so i tend to completely reinstall from scratch from time to time..
>>53557889
is there some dumbproof gui for it?
like
[ ] /home
[x] /
>>53557925
bruh
>>53557937
only used dd for writing isos on usb so far, dude
>>53557889
cli buddy, if = input file, of=output file
basically dd if=/dev/myhd of=/mybackupimage
for more: man dd
Is there something like the perapera add-on that makes Chinese characters have a color corresponding to their tone AUTOMATICALLY ON THE PAGE, without even hovering over it?
>>53558011
What is signified by this comic?
>>53557425
this is /flt/ thread, not /fglt/
I think I will move from windows 10 to ubuntu mate. What's wrong with windows mate?
Suppose I have a live CD for a Debian-based distribution. I have some drivers for my shitty wireless hardware that I would like to use in the live desktop, but the build-essential and make packages are not installed.
How would I go about setting up a build environment in a live CD with no network access? Would I just download the Debs via a different machine and transfer them over?
Why are file pickers in Linux so lackluster? Why don't programs open a standard file browser window with an "OK" button slapped on, instead of this shit?
>>53558380
because you open the file manager on your own
then drag 'n' drop
>>53555034
Can I do that with Debian thoigh?
>>53558380
https://launchpad.net/~helkaluin/+archive/ubuntu/gtk2-filechooser-iconview
>>53558454
That's great for loading a file, but doesn't work for saving.
>>53558508
really? works fine for images on 4chan, on my system. using thunar
>>53558380
> Filepicker pasta:
Tippers:
https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/jkisielewicz/gtk2-filepicker-iconview/
Amazuntu:
https://launchpad.net/~helkaluin/+archive/ubuntu/gtk2-filechooser-iconview
Arsch Linux:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view/
Absolute Madmen:
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/01213036b58e510dc074
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/49c1d0eea4b64f24c4c7
>>53558566
>go to settings and set default folder
>right click image/file and save
>magically saves in to the folder
>>53558570
why hasn't it been patched upstream yet?
>>53558599
Because GNOME are faggots.
>>53558566
I mean saving a new document you're working on, for example.
>>53558586
i just
>open thunar to folder i want
>grab image on 4chan
>drop image in thunar
>>53558047
When you have an idea, but then back off in defeat after realizing it's not as good as your initial thought.
>>53558618
Are the gnome people the same people that do Nautilus? Because that shit is getting run into the ground. I mean seriously who thought it was a good idea to remove the feature that every single file manager has that tells how much space is left on a drive?
https://addons.mozilla.org/EN-us/firefox/addon/save-image-in-folder/
https://addons.mozilla.org/EN-us/firefox/addon/save-link-in-folder/
Once installed, you'll never uninstall again.
>>53558599
Because it's not thoroughly tested and for GTK2, which is in "bugfix only" mode.
>>53558660
Well what was it?
>>53558672
Yes, they also removed stuff on other things like the gnome-terminal. Don't ask me why.
>>53558722
Too much settings are too confusing for normalfags.
>>53558722
They want people to start using Qt and KDE?
>>53558747
Not enough settings which makes you have to edit config files is too confusing for normalfags.
>>53558754
I see nothing wrong with that
>>53558599
It actually was. GIMP got a picker with thumbnails, but it never found it's way to default GTK and at the end, they removed it also for GIMP.
>>53558244
mate is absolutely fine.
especially if you have a hard time abandoning gnome for objectively inferior gnome3
>>53558702
Dunno, I wasn't the guy who had it.
redshift or xflux?
>>53558829
Yes
>>53558829
redshift with redshift gtk for taskbar icon
>>53558380
>why are GTK file pickers lackluster
GTK isn't "Linux". Use a Qt-based browser, for fuck's sake.
>>53558790
>not using english for every tech thingy
If I install 2 different distros if I only have 1 partition for swap will this cause problems?
>>53558871
>if I dualboot will it cause problems with my RAM
>>53558895
Stop being a faggot you know swap is used for hibernation
>>53558380
Move over to the superior KDE master race
Free yourself from the gtk slavery
>>53558863
not a cuck tho
>>53558829
>flux
>redshift
BLOAT
LOATB
OATBL
ATBLO
TBLOA
sct: http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/sct-set-color-temperature
>>53558916
the way those folder images are crooked triggers me
>>53558968
>Folder preview
You can turn them off if you wish
>>53558998
I want folder preview though...
>>53558722
I forget, what have they removed from gnome-terminal that they haven't readded? Only thing I actually remember them removing was transparency, but that was because they were cleaning up the code and it has since returned.
>>53559026
Go away GNOME shill.
>>53559065
Fuck off KDE shill.
>>53559065
No really, do tell me, I'm honestly curious.
>>53559094
Fuck off MATE shill
>>53558938
Neat as fuck, but claiming that it looks
>much much better
than what redshift can achieve is a blatant lie.
I just compiled it, on 3500K (which is what I use) the only difference comes from different gamma setting (I didn't bother changing the stc one), color temperatures are otherwise comparable, if not the same.
>>53558938
Redshift is actually pretty light. As the individual on the other side of your link says:
>Now to be fair most of this is the result of OpenBSD ports choosing to build and package optional dependencies, including the GUI.
It's no wonder it looks bad looking at that list.
>>53559119
Script it to make it flicker betweem 2-3 different values to imitate CRT. :^)
>>53559119
It's much much better in a sense that his autism wasn't triggered due to the fact that he didn't have to install that one extra unneeded dependency
Just some real quick tips for beginners that are wondering if they want to install Arch or not.
>1.
Arch is not a special snowflake. Plenty of other distros offer minimal iso's (sometimes called net installs) where you can setup/install only the things you want. Some popular distros that offer this are ubuntu, debian, and fedora to name a few.
>2.
The beginners wiki article for installation is great, but bear in mind if you have trouble with that article you are in for a nightmare afterwards. There is a lot more stuff you need to do afterwards and the rest of the arch articles are not as friendly (they are full of information, but they will not hold your hand).
>3.
Consider setting up a virtual machine first and doing an arch install from there. This experience will help you plan your actual "hard" install as I like to call it and you'll understand things more.
>4.
Consider alternatives, do you really need Arch? I understand the want for a completely custom distro with only the packages you need. However, unless you have an older PC with poor specifications there is not a whole lot of point to it. I have an i7, 16GB of Ram and a 1TB SSD. I really don't care if I have over 1000 packages on my system from a default install. I have been using Linux since the late 90's and have more terminal time then a majority of people on /g/. I do not run Arch, I don't want to waste my time. My desktop is meant for entertainment, enjoyment, and as a workstation. If you use your desktop to "blow off steam" maybe using Arch is not for you as it can be a bit of a headache for a couple months.
>>53559215
tl;dr
>>53559228
>TL;DR go eat a bag of dicks for not reading it
>>53559246
I would if I could.
>>53559215
Forgot to add:
>5.
Or just use Architect.
Finished.
how do you pronounce ubuntu?
>>53559228
tl;dr: arch is a waste of time
>>53559215
1. Fedora's minimal ISO isn't really that minimal. It sets up a bunch of things which Arch doesn't (after doing pacstrap). Debian (and Ubuntu) also need the --no-install-recommends flag to keep the potentially unwanted dependencies at a minimum.
The rest is true, I guess.
>>53559394
you banned you
>>53559394
Ugga bugga bugga
>>53559289
A-are y-you a f-f-fag?
>>53559215
>claims 20+ years of linux exp.
>cant install arch
I think thats a you problem and not an everybody else problem.
4 is completly factless.
>>53558570
For fellow meme hat tippers.
I just patched the newest gtk2 version and it has been recompiled and is available on the copr.
Works, you can safely update.
>>53558570
>Arsch Linux
lost it
what do I do with tarballs? For example I just downloaded Popcorn time, extracted it and then the executable won't actually run
>>53559481
>copr
Who thought that was a good acronym? Surely I'm not the only one thinking about poo when I read that?
>>53559532
I'm with stupid.
>>53559215
Fags on /g/ like others to think they are smart doing Arch installs but in all reality they just used Architect...
>>53559517
>popcorn time
Nigga, install qBittorrent and click "Download in Sequential Order". Not that it's recommended, since it's impolite and fucks things up for other peers.
>>53559532
That's redhat for you
>Surely I'm not the only one thinking about poo when I read that?
Yes, kopros is greek for feces.
hell even the logo looks like a nigger vagina in a circle.
>>53559517
Did you give it execute permissions?
>>53559549
nah this is easier and I have low standards for quality unless i'm downloading some masterpiece
>>53559517
>Popcorn time
Good lord no.
It was recently taken down and went back up in suspiciously short time.
Supposedly by the same team/people behind it but the software changed.
DO
NOT
TRUST
IT
>>53559493
What a huge hassle.
>>53559557
I think so, based on "allow to run as program" being ticked in permissions
>>53559583
whatever man I'm asking about all tarballs, just assume I said "super freetastic tarball.tar.gz"
>>53559595
Trysudo tarball.tar.gz
>>53559604
huh? sudo isn't a command on its own is it?
>>53559595
>.tar.gz
>not .tgz
BLOAT
>>53559595
>sudo tar xf charedballs.tar.gz
>cd path/to/charedballs
>sudo ./conf
>>53559595
tarball is just an archieve file.
It was developed for the purpose of storing multiple files as a single file [tar stands for t(ape) ar(chive)]
the .gz behind it means the .tar file was additionally compressed with the GNU zip utility.
Post the contents of the "untared" directory and the output of the software you want to run, maybe then someone will be able to help you.
>>53559628
>not .lrz
>>53559669
>not .lmza
>>53559640
ok so it extracts to 3 files
libffmpegsumo.so
nw.pak
and the executable (with permissions)
I tried to do ./executable but Terminal says "error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" even though I'm in the right directory
>>53559680
>not .rar
Use the fucking standard.
>>53559694
>not .kgb
It's like you want huge file size
>have old windows laptop
>create ubuntu bootable pen drive to install it
>can't see the windows partition for some reason
>give up
>download fedora and create bootable usb
>it can see the windows partition
>after fighting with the shitty installation menu, it will let me delete it and format the drive
>but the option on the menu for selecting the installation iso is greyed out
>because there isn't enough free space on the hard drive to install the OS
>won't let me format the hard drive... until I already have enough space on the hard drive to install it
Do people actively work towards creating such a shitty user experiences?
>>53559694
Joking around aside, can't we just take flipping rar out behind the shed and shoot it? We've managed to get rid of the necessity of having Flash, really wish we could do the same here.
>>53559715
Yes.
>>53559715
I'm not sure I understand your problem. If you want to format anyway why do you care if the ubuntu disk sees the windows partition? It gives you an option to erase disk and install
>>53559715
You were actually supposed to press make free space or something like that. Only then will it format the partition
>>53559682
>error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
You don't have it's dependencies installed.
>>53559747
Same opinions here, I was joking. The problem are the rlz scene standards. The day when the warez are packed with 7z or related, the day rar will die, just like avi did.
>>53559789
oh alright. So look for libudev in Synaptic then?
see this is why they should provide repositories or lists of dependencies instead of just tarballs
Anyone knows how to get the current URL of the currect tab from Firefox? Would like to write some scripts.
How is openSUSE? I have been using Fedora for quite some time (6 months) but want to try something different.
>>53560072
yast is poop doe.
Otherwise it's no different than <put any other mainstream distro>
Supposedly the best out-of-the-box KDE experience you can get. Won't opinion on that, used KDE like 3 times in my life
How do I make this as an equivalent LaTeX file, senpai?
https://u.pomf.is/hyjxxr.odt
Hello guys
I want to dualboot linux and I have a MBP already partitioned. Dual boot doesn't want to recognize my drive and sometime the laptop runs a little bit too hot while hit posting on my lap?
Any recommendations for doing all of this?
I want a light distro for shitposting and listening too music and then switch back to OS X for work related stuff.
So AMD just released their AMDGPU userspace driver with Vulkan support:
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Hybrid-Linux-Driver
Too fucking bad I'm still using a 7950, which isn't supported by the driver (yet).
Whats a good resource to learn how to make an app for openbox or for X?
I'm running openbox on gentoo and I want to write a simple app like xclock and be able to have it be something i can launch when i run startx.
MATE vs XFCE?
Winbabby here
Installed Ubuntu GNOME earlier today.
All went fine until I tried muting my porn a bit ago and my mute key didn't work, neither did my volume up or down keys
Went into the Sound settings and it has no output devices listed, even though I'm listening to music right now
pls halp
What's a good distro for a touchscreen convertible laptop? About to pick this up for a steal the touchscreen was really just a nice bonus. I've been out of the GNU/Linux world since Crunchbang's demise, so I'm not sure what's a good fit for my machine. I was thinking Debian with KDE5 since it looks well optimized for touch, but I've only seen bad things about it. Any ideas?
>>53561168
Alright figured some things out
Turns out Pulse Audio isn't running and I can't get it to start
>Oh no! Something has gone wrong.
I don't even know what the fuck happened. I just turned the computer off after 5 days and turned it on recently with the very helpful GNOME status. I don't even.
What now? I can boot up to a terminal using the integrated GPU, so it's hopefully a Nvidia problem with their drivers, right? Fucking hell. This is very frustrating.
>>53561193
Fixed it myself :^)
I added tsched=0 to the PA config (As per http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/system-wide-pulseaudio-equalizer.html) and that cause it to fail loading
thanks guys
>>53561173
>touchscreen
hisssss
>>53556508
p(n) for UNIX™
>>53561089
mate if you want a more complete desktop experience (it's a fork of gnome2 and gnome 2 was a very mature DE before retarded gnome devs scrapped it in favour of the shitty behemoth gnome3 is)
mate if you want working multi-monitor setup.
Don't know what the actual stats are but xfce "feels" lighter than mate.
>>53561259
xfce can't do multi monitors? What.
>>53561259
I thought gnome3 was supposed to be good, if orange.
>>53561269
He's full of shit
I ran XFCE a while ago fine with two monitors
>>53561286
GNOME3 werkz fine for me now, he's probably just a luddite stuck in the gnome2 era, which would explain his boner for mate)
>>53561240
Very helpful
>>53561237
Doesn't seem like something anyone could've really helped with. Good on you for figuring it out; users messing around is the cause of a lot of issues like this. I know I've sure been there.
>>53561294
So in your opinion what makes xfce > mate?
>>53561173
Many people think Gnome looks like something adapted for touchscreens but I honestly think it's pretty bad for it. Nothing else really comes to mind, so just throwing that out there.
>>53561269
It can.
It's just broken to the point where it doesn't work on half of the setups.
the culprit is that xfce's multi display solution fail to recognise/accept the user's choice of the "default" monitor.
XFCE will always display the panel/icons on the monitor which is closer to the 0,0 coordinates on the xrandr grid, which means it's always the monitor you set on the left.
Of course you could always say "just use the left monitor as the default lelele" but that's a temporary solution at most.
>>53561294
Fuck off friend.
"Werks on my machine" belongs to a windows' tech support forums, not here.
>>53561286
Gnome 3 is trash
Can someone help me with this.
I'm using i3. I have monitors 3 1 2. I have my browser on monitor 1. When I get a browser toast or html5 notification, like when someone gives me a sweet sweet (You) or X-Notifier says I have mail, it pops up on monitor 3 (luckily on the right side).
What the fuck. This only happens for my browser, other shit that gets popups like that - though I cannot recall which programs do... - all work fine.
>>53561394
It's actually really nice after running through gnome-tweak-tool and looking at the first few pages of extensions.gnome.org.
>>53561423
i.e. its trash
So I have music on my desktop PC, I want to keep specific music files on my portable player and on a server (based on, let's say, m3u playlists). Is rsync the best solution here?
>>53561430
Was a hell of a lot quicker to customise to my liking than anything else I've tried, and I'm happier with the end result to boot. That makes it pretty good, friend.
>>53560604
That happened a lot faster than I expected. Also have a 7950, currently debating whether I should buy a new GPU sooner rather than later.
Guess it all depends on whether Polaris has support when it arrives or if it takes ages for the reclocking support to land like it did for the 285.
>>53561571
It's kind of amusing how it feels a lot more comfortable these days to get an AMD GPU over an Nvidia one.
Why doesn't this command execute the shell script?bash /home/user/Downloads/icecat/run-icecat.sh
>>53561670
It either can't read the file (typo or no read permission or something; pretty unlikely) or there's some other external factor. Hard to speculate with so little information to go on.
>>53561670
Because you didn't press enter
Post the error message you dumb fuck
>>53561649
About the only reason to get an Nvidia GPU now if you run GNU/Linux is if you're a kid who absolutely has to have 300+fps in CS:GO or you'll 'feel' the dropped frames on your 1080p 60hz monitor.
AMD meanwhile has handled 4k@60 perfectly since I got my card. I've been really impressed. Its even handled the little bit of gaming that I do much better than I expected.
>>53561742
>>53561748
But it works if I'm in the actual directory
>>53561765
From what little information that is, it makes me suspect the script assumes it's being run from the current working directory and that makes it muck up. You could probably give us even more information, like the error message for instance, which the other Anon so eloquently asked for.
>>53561753
Well I have a 144hz monitor. Which I value a lot over 4K. Also AMD is 'better' than Nvidia for linux but it's still shit.
>>53561753
I hear you. My HD6850 is not a top performer by any means but it gracefully handles what little gaming I throw at it, and has presented me no issues whatsoever since the major breakthroughs in the free driver a few years back. Even the Sandy Bridge IGP which I used to use has been more of a hassle.
>>53561823
>>53561748
The error message readsrun-icecat.sh: Cannot execute .
>>53561910
Right. That makes me believe I was right. Can't say for sure without looking at the script itself (another thing you could've posted, in some pastebin or other) but no matter. A way you can get around this is by instead of running «bash /home/user/Downloads/icecat/run-icecat.sh», you run «(cd /home/user/Downloads/icecat/ && bash run-icecat.sh)».
A few other things not pertaining to your question as such could be said, but I'll leave it be.
>>53561841
Believe me, once you've sat in front of a 40" 2160p monitor you never want to sit in front of a tiny 24" 1080p display again.
What the hell happened? I just restarted Arch and this shows up. Please help
>>53561993
<insert snarky comment about thinking you should run fsck manually here>
>>53561987
Uh say it.
>>53561991
>40"
Holy fucking dropped. Get the fuck out of here.
Also FPS trumps resolution every time, luckily 1080p offers both and looks good enough still.
posted in /sqg/ but i'll post here too:
other than speed, what's the downside of running my linux in a VM inside windows?
the UI is a little clunky but it's usable. the benefits are amazing:
>no need to reboot to switch OS
>great security, completely isolated from my personal shit
>not afraid of messing things up because i can always go back to my snapshots
>OS side by side, dragging and dropping files, copying pasting shit
>never have to worry about windows update fucking up my GRUB or other shit
i don't think i'll ever go back to dual bot again
>>53561993
>What the hell happened?
It's right there on the fucking screen! There is some inconsistency in filesystem on sda2, run fsck manually!
This means filesystem was damaged, probably because of a failing drive. After running fsck and fixing the problems, check SMART to see if the drive is actually failing. Another option is that since you're running arch and asking questions like these, you might be dumb enough to have an unjournaled filesystem.
>>53561987
That is correctMOZ_APPRUNNER_NAME="./icecat-bin"
...
elif [ -x "$MOZ_APPRUNNER_NAME" ]
then
MOZ_PROGRAM=$MOZ_APPRUNNER_NAME
fi
...
if [ ! -x "$MOZ_PROGRAM" ]
then
moz_bail "Cannot execute $MOZ_PROGRAM."
fi
>>53562074
the obvious downside is having to run windows
>>53561993
>arch
of course you can't read error messages. of course.
Why isn't this working!
is gentoo the best linux?
>>53562103
I was talking about the filesystem check failing, but okay. Fucking idiot.
>>53562103
i use windows for basically everything that's not related to software development
>>53562117
Make run-icecat.sh executable
Set "command" to run-icecat.sh
Set "working directory" to the location of run-icecat.sh
>>53562144
i'll add that i used ubuntu for a couple of years as my OS, but i always found myself having to go back to windows to do some things. plus i don't like the fact that things are usually more complicated than they should be. most of the time windows jest werks
>>53562022
Well, for one, try to supply as much information as possible when asking for help. It makes providing that help a lot easier. Note how by your original post, the issue could be pretty much anything under the sun.
There's the question of why you aren't making the script executable and putting it in a folder within your $PATH (typically ~/bin or something) but I guess with how the script is touchy about from where it's run, there would be all sorts of issues with that.
I also wonder why you're running Icecat like this in the first place. Does your distribution really not carry an Icecat package? It's well odd how you're launching it from a script like this, is it from an official portable release or something?
>>53562058
Put your two 24" displays side by side, see how wide that is? Its not quite that wide.
Now turn one of them vertical, see how tall that is? Its not quite that tall.
It sounds huge, but its really isn't that big. You just think its too big because screen sizes and resolutions have been stuck for so long.
Its not even ridiculously sharp or ridiculously blocky PPI is around 114, a bit sharper than your typical 24" 1080p display and you have more usable space to get shit done than with any other type of setup.
>>53562201
My two 24" displays are pretty big side by side, I can't make out the edges of each while looking in the middle. A monitor is not a fucking TV, it's not meant to be super sized. I doubt I'll ever own a monitor >30"
>>53562131
Yes
>>53562136
It failed because fsck doesn't fix errors in automatic mode by default to avoid potential data loss or the error message going unnoticed
>>53562172
>I also wonder why you're running Icecat like this in the first place. Does your distribution really not carry an Icecat package? It's well odd how you're launching it from a script like this, is it from an official portable release or something?
It's from an official binary tarball, yes. Most sane distributions have dropped icecat as a security threat because it always lags behind upstream.
>>53562201
>>53562216
Being able to see the entire screen clearly shits hard on big and pretty for gaming any day of the week. When I'm playing Quake I don't want to miss or notice a guy peaking on the edge of my screen too late and fuck up because of it.
>>53562136
it would appear that
"Entry 11405974 has an incorrect filetype (was 2, should be 1)."
and that you should
"RUN fsck MANUALLY"
idiot.
>>53562159
having used xubuntu for many years, i find that pretty much everything just werks
things like flashing a SD or backing up my files (to another linux machine) or scraping images from a thread
without needing to understand some obscure gui or wizard or shareware program from sourceforge
what skill level would someone need to install gentoo?
>>53562253
[TRIGGER WARNING]
i was talking about things like ms office, itunes, gaming...
>>53562216
That's my point, a 40" display is not as big as you think it is. Once you sit in front of one it makes perfect sense. Its like a multi monitor setup but it is both wide and tall simultaneously and there's no bezel in the way so the middle is actually usable.
Playing Quake? You set the viewable area so that the space in the middle of the screen is like the viewable space you'd have on a smaller monitor with the rest of the area as peripheral.
>>53559350
Architect just got BTFO by the youtube normies
>>53562356
There's no such thing as less important screen space though. Being able to see everything is important. You can play with fov to compensate but why, just don't get a stupidly big monitor that offers absolutely nothing.
I want to contribute to the KDE community.
There used to be a package written in Qt3 and no one is porting it to Qt5.
The package was named KTechLab. It is a very good CAD software for electronics
Is learning C++ the first step?
>>53562377
I'm not sure what you're not getting about this. You can see everything that you could see on a smaller monitor, plus more. You know those 21:9 displays that attempt to replace dual monitor setups? Imagine that but with usable vertical space.
Plus you're getting caught up in thinking about it for gaming. Think about using it for work.
>>53562542
21:9 is a fucking joke why would you even bring that up.
For work I can't see TOO much benefit for a 40" one, maybe 30, even 36, but 40? Why. How much text do you actually need to see.
Anyone here has the arch installer guide ?
(NOT the shitty apps guy version)
>>53562074
>Is learning C++ the first step?
If KTechLab is written in C++ (most likely it is) then yes
>>53562593
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/installation_guide
>>53562593
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide
>>53562561
30-36" is large for a single display, but not really large enough to replace a multi-monitor setup.
38-42" on the other hand is and gives you opportunities to do things that you can't get with multiple smaller displays.
Does anyone use Trisquel?
>>53562358
What you mean
>>53562630
Why are we replacing multi monitor setups again? Having 2 monitors is much better than having one larger one of equal size because of organisation.
>>53562633
libre distros are a joke
>>53562633
I can't because I have an Intel WiFi chipset, but I would if I could
>>53562646
how does having one large display hurt organization? We're not using Windows here, we have good window managers.
>>53562709
Because each monitor can categorise its content workspace but also be viewed at the same time as another.
>>53562648
Wtf why
>>53562648
How so?
>>53562131
Yes
Ive been fucking around with Ubuntu for awhile now close to a year I have switched between dual booting and maining my desktop with it.
I am going to do a weekend dba class for 7 or 8 month starting in May.
I need to wipe my desktop right now and wondered if people think I should try Debian or some other more admin style distro. Any admins I have seen using Linux use debian.
Centos seems to be a thing as well.
Anyone here actually work in Linux?
>>53562646
>>53562630
Anyone know a economical way to get monitor arms for 40 inch monitors?
>>53562633
It appears to be the most active of the fsf distros, i plan on running it on an old rig soon to see what it's like to use a rms approved distro
I'm a stupid person trying educate people even stupider than me to bring them up my level.
I'm trying to create a command called "ccd" that will change the directory, ala "cd", and promptly afterwards killall open instances of caja if there are any, and open a new instance of caja in the directory you are now in. My code looks like this.ccd (DIR) {
echo "Now moving to $DIR"
cd $DIR
killall caja
caja $DIR
}
How bad am I fuckin' up senpai?
>>53562719
That's a limitation of your Window manager workflow, not an advantage of multiple monitors.
The future I see is you will have a single large display and then within that display you will be able to set up or destroy virtual screens just like you can automatically create and destroy virtual desktops today.
>>53562774
Debian and CentOS (which is RHEL with different branding and no expensive support contract) are the big ones. There's also a server version of Ubuntu LTS that some places use.
but really the fundamentals are the same no matter what distro you use
>>53562823
Not my environment, I use i3. However most people don't. Even with i3 though I'd prefer to have each workspace have its own type of content and not merge them. With one monitor this would mean I have to switch back and forth to see their contents, with two I don't.
>>53562798
They're compatible with the same kind of mounts you would use with a TV so they're readily available. I have mine wall mounted a few inches above my desk.
![snapshot_07.30_[2014.07.29_02.34.44].png](https://i.imgur.com/NVq1Dge.jpg "snapshot 07.30 [2014.07.29 02.34.44]")
>>53556449
begone Jehovah's Witnesses
>>53562845
This is a good idea actually.
Anyone know a cheap desk mounted arm though?
Hell these screens are big enough and my wall is right behind me might just use a much cheaper tv mount.
>>53559625
Yes, it elevates permissions then executes its arguments
>>53562840
Imagine for a moment that you have two large monitors side by side with a different workspace on each one. Now imagine that there is no bezel between those screens. That if you wanted to instead of those two workspaces you could have one central workspace with two additional workspaces on either side. Or one single large workspace with two smaller workspaces stacked on the other side. Or if you did have a task that you wanted to take up all of your usable space it could without any obstructions.
>>53562896
To my knowledge i3, or hell ANY DE or WM, cannot break screenspace into multiple workspaces. T hat'd be pretty cool though.
>>53562896
This plus monitor will soon be able to be integrated into a surface like a wall.
They are already working on paper thin flexible shit.
Probably at least ten years before you see real shit for the market though. Maybe more.
>>53562911
I've been meaning to ask a related thing. I have a two-monitor Linux box that I run Xfce on. I'd really like it if switching workspaces changed one monitor, but the other one stayed constant no matter what workspace I was on. Is this kind of thing possible? If so what's it called and where would I look for information on doing it?
>>53562958
Independent workspaces per monitor certainly exists, all WMs can do it. I assume there's some way to do it in xfce but I don't use it so can't tell you. Google?
>>53562971
>Independent workspaces per monitor
well you formulated a better search term than I was able to, so now I have a few leads. thanks
>>53556619
It is not that easy if you have the uefi winblows boot manager.
I dual boot the distro of my choice and that fucking winblows boot manager is a fucking pain in the ass. I have settled upon the esc button on start up, then the f9 button, then my linux distro, then finally I get the grub boot manager to choose my os to boot. Lost way too much time I will never get back fretting over it, next up it will be the balls deep install of my choice distro, fuck winblows.
>>53563124
I dont have this problem. Not the guy you are talking to but I set os to other in the bios and install linux second the grub loader takes over gives me a nice list to choose from when I boot up.
>>53563124
When will you tards learn to stop using uefi.
I'm looking for a new distro and have no idea what to choose. I was previously using funtoo which was great but I don't have the time to maintain it and compile everything these days. I jumped to manjaro because it has more or less fresh packages, and quick to install. That was a mistake because it is a broken piece of shit and after two separate installs I'm looking for something else. Fedora doesn't have packages for a lot of the pro audio stuff I need so I'm looking at debian. There are repos for 90% of what I need and I'm sure I can find the rest in the default repo, I'm just a bit unsure about it. Which branch should I use, I don't want stable but even the debian wiki says that testing is possible the worst to use because problems can stay in that branch for a while. Unstable could be a candidate, I can deal with occasional bugs but I more or less want it to work without having to spend ages fixing things with an update.
I don't want to use ubuntu really either.
So what would be best for me?
>>53563188
I have tried everything recommended on the forums, and by others other than third party software, still can not get the grub loader to take over and give me the comfy list to choose from
>>53563268
Since you're not a noob, try Arch if you haven't. If you don't like it, debian is good, or maybe dip into bsd.
>>53563314
Yeah I wouldn't mind using arch but I just feel like I don't have the time to dedicate to it, I haven't really got a spare day to dedicate to setting things up and configuring everything. That said, it would be a better choice than manjaro after the time I've spent on that so far. Never used it though so perhaps it is time.
>>53562774
if you're doing database administration it really doesn't matter what distro, since practically everything about databases are distro agnostic, so the only real OS level stuff you'll be dealing with will most likely be distro agnostic as well (like backup and maintenance tools)
If you're looking to dip your toes into sysadmin territory, CentOS will be your top priority to familiarize yourself with. It's RedHat Linux without the enterprise support tacked on. Basically every company that uses linux on it's serverspace and isn't hosted in one guy's garage uses RHEL.
Debian is kinda popular for the extremely small business and home server crowd (as well as CentOS itself), but in the end if you're familiar with Ubuntu already, then you know Debian and aren't really doing yourself any favors by swapping one for the other (unless you have a fetish for outdated packages in the name of absolute stability, or a "rolling release" distro where something is always broken because the packages are too new)
>>53563268
Why don't you want to use ubuntu? It's pretty much debian with different repos.
I would use Debian testing or Ubuntu.
What distro does everyone ITT use?
Arch for me.
>>53563358
>Why don't you want to use ubuntu?
I don't particularly like their practices and just associate it with bloat, even though I know it doesn't have to be. I could possibly use it but I'm not sure what advantage it has over debian if you don't use one of the DEs it comes with.
>>53563336
Mmm, if you can't even spare a single day then yeah Arch probably isn't the best choice since it is literally a build it yourself OS. If you need something that just werks now get something else. Although you could just install bloatDE on it after installing and shit would 'just werk' since it includes basically everything someone could imagine a PC doing.
Does anybody know a lockscreen that can play video?
>>53563397
Ubuntu is just a Debian fork anyway.
>>53563400
>Although you could just install bloatDE on it after installing and shit would 'just werk' since it includes basically everything someone could imagine a PC doing.
Yeah that's kind of what I was planning with manjaro, I was thinking it would just be quick easy arch but I've had so many weird little issues when I trim it down for what I actually need.
>>53563435
Tbh the actual install process for Arch is not difficult or time consuming if you know what to do. It takes 5 minutes tops (excepting download times) to do everything that's not the partitioning.
>>53563397
If you use Ubuntu over Debian stable you would get newer packages. Aside from that, there's not really much difference.
To avoid installing bloat just use the netinstall .isos
>>53563268
try Arch.
personally, i NEVER recommend any of the arch spinoff distros because all they do is slap a default DE and hack together some shit installer script and call themselves a distro. Their package management is always a nightmare and i have yet to find an arch spinoff distro that can simultaneously handle using their own repos as well as the arch repos.
Arch itself seems like the perfect middle ground for you. it's a bit less "involved" compared to Gentoo and it's derivitives, but it's not absolute hand holding and coddling like Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, etc...
>>53563474
Antergos literally offends me, how that can call itself a distro I have no idea.
Manjaro is just disgusting.
>>53563474
You have some good points, I might give it a try. I have always been put off by the install process, even in gentoo you can be in a nice comfy bloated gui live session and install it. I have a Broadcom BCM4312 which never seems to work in any live sessions so I always just assumed I would have problems there. I might look in to it though, you have kind of inspired me.
What distro does everyone ITT use?
>>53563465
>>53563567
basically this.
the current arch install is literally just
>partition/mount
>pacstrap
>edit a few basic config files
>install bootloader
the majority of the work is done by pacstrap, and unless you have some specialized hardware that you have to compile drivers for, or are absolutely braindead, it should take you about 30 minutes total to get a base system up and running. Of course from there you need to do some more basic tinkering for your display, sound, and whatever else you need out of your system, but those are mostly straightforward as well (barring any edge cases of specialized hardware/software).
>>53563596
linux from scratch
fuck off
>>53563567
bcm43142 fag here
Manjaro works ootb in live session
>>53563615
Not for me, the openrc isos work for some reason but the default doesn't in live mode. When I install they do but not live. Fuck knows why.
>>53563610
>fuck off
What? Why?
>>53563631
>I'll ask a spammy meta question
>no one answers
>I'll ask again in a different way 5 mins later
>>53563631
Most people run Arch and debian
Newfags run *buntu/ mint
Psychopaths run Fedora.
How do I stop fedora updating?
I need to stop it and switch to fastest mirror, by default fedora picked up the slowest on earth - it took 10 minutes to check repos.
I just want to cancel it without fucking things up, wat do?
>>53563567
This is the install process, assuming you're on lan not wifi which adds some steps I cbf typing:
Boot disc
# timedatectl set-ntp true
Partition, see beginner's guide for information
Mount / partition to /mnt
Create /mnt/boot
Mount /boot to /mnt/boot
# pacstrap -i /mnt base base-devel
# genfstab -U /mnt >> /mnt/etc/fstab
# arch-chroot /mnt /bin/bash
IF your locale is not en_US edit /etc/locale.gen and uncomment your language, make sure en_US stays uncommented too though. If your chosen LANG comes after en_US move it above.
# locale-gen
# ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Zone/SubZone /etc/localtime --where Zone/SubZone is the TZ value from # tzselect
# hwclock --systohc --utc
Install bootloader, see beginner's guide.
Edit /etc/hostname to contain the hostname you want for your PC and nothing more.
Enable your network adapter for your OS. If on LAN it's real easy, # systemctl enable [email protected] --where interface is the device displayed when you do # ip link --eg. mine is enp3s0
# passwd --set root password for OS
# exit
# umount -R /mnt
# reboot
Done, you'll boot into an installed version of Arch unless I missed something. From there login as root and create your user and set sudo to allow the wheel group, then logout and into your new user.
>>53563664
it's still downloading so it should be safe to just kill the process, switch mirrors, and then update again
>>53563679
Nvm I just reinstalled fedora it was faster :).
Couldn't find process, it was interconnected with desktop environment process itself or maybe had retarded name and little to no usage.
save us based stallman
>>53563656
antiX
>>53563676
first of all, use the code tags
secondly, having a separate /boot partition isn't required (and in some cases might actually cause some problems depending on bios type (legacy or UEFI) and dual booting)#Boot disc
#Sets
timedatectl set-ntp true
#Partition. It's a good idea to create separate root (/) and home (/home) partitions, just in case anything goes wrong you still have all your personal stuff saved. It's also a good idea to make a separate boot partition unless, like i mentioned above, you know it'll cause problems with any dual booting or your BIOS/UEFI setup
mnt /dev/sdaX (your root partition) /mnt
mnt /dev/sdaY (your boot partition) /mnt/boot
mnt /dev/sdaZ (your home partition) /mnt/home
# Pacstrap installs the system. "base" and "base-devel" are the core tools needed to install and configure your system
pacstrap -i /mnt base base-devel
# Fstab generation. the -U flag labels your drives by their UUID, or you can replace it with -L to label them with their partition names (like /dev/sdaX)
genfstab -U /mnt >> /mnt/etc/fstab
# Be sure to check your fstab file to see if everything is there
#chroot into your system to start configuring files as necessary
arch-chroot /mnt /bin/bash
# IF your locale is not en_US edit /etc/locale.gen and uncomment your language, make sure en_US stays uncommented too though. If your chosen LANG comes after en_US move it above.
locale-gen
# Sets your timezone.
tzselect
ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Zone/SubZone /etc/localtime (where Zone/SubZone is the TZ value from tzselect)
hwclock --systohc --utc
#Install bootloader, see beginner's guide.
#Edit /etc/hostname to contain the hostname you want for your PC and nothing more.
#Enable your network adapter for your OS. If on LAN it's real easy,
systemctl enable [email protected] (where interface is the device displayed when you do "ip link")
#Set your root password
passwd
exit
umount -R /mnt
reboot
>>53563364
Gentoo
>>53563758
graphical tool will be under a different name
>>53563849
>first of all, use the code tags
True, was lazy, doesn't matter too much though.
>secondly, having a separate /boot partition isn't required
Also true, but this way your / can have btrfs as its filesystem.
>and in some cases might actually cause some problems depending on bios type (legacy or UEFI) and dual booting
I'm dual booting with Windows with legacy bios, /boot is ext4 / is btrfs. No problems here. Never even seen any warnings about it either.
What the fuck manjaro?
>install manjaro openrc
>has lightdm, everything works nicely
>get rid of lightdm
>pamac doesn't work, authentication fails even though I have a polkit frontend running
>reinstall lightdm
>no xdm service available
>reinstall xorg-server
>still no xdm service available
what the actual fuck
>>53562810
>ccd (DIR)
You can't have named parameters in the bourne shell, use "$@" or $1, $2, $3...
Also quote your variables of they undergo word expansion.ccd () {
dir="$1"
echo "Now moving to ${dir}"
cd "${dir}"
killall caja
caja "${dir}"
}
>>53563884
>falling for the manjaro meme
Jesus christ just use Arch if you want to use Arch.
>>53563884
>>has lightdm, everything works nicely
>>get rid of lightdm
>>pamac doesn't work
Allergic to a working environment?
>>53563898
manjaro seems to be yeah.
why would pamac be dependent on lightdm?
>>53563895
Also you might want to skip killing your process if cd fails, for example if a directory doesn't exist.cd "${dir}" || return
>>53563878
>I'm dual booting with Windows with legacy bios
I think it's mostly just UEFI that shits the bed with a separate partition (or maybe it's a filesystem thing where it has to be FAT32). legacy bios will be fine so long as your boot manager supports chain loading the necessary files to get windows to boot (which both GRUB and Syslinux do)
also
>btrfs
>>53563884
manjaro is shit m8. just install Arch if you can't live without pacman. the entire install process is outlined for you right here, no Beginner's guide necessary
>>53563849
>>53563676
>>53563910
Probably there are some conf files to be tweaked
>>53563922
>I think it's mostly just UEFI that shits the bed
Figures, why the fuck is this WORSE than bios, makes no sense.
>>btrfs
It's up and coming senpai, give it a few months and it'll be the default over ext4. It's already superior in those cases, the only things it's not deemed 100% stable at yet are high end RAID shit like RAID 50 and 60.
>>53563922
Does Arch have KDE4?
>>53563932
>Probably
This is pretty much exactly the problem with manjaro. Run in to one of million issues it has and no one has any idea.
>>53563944
>>53563944
>why the fuck is this WORSE than bios
because muh DRM boogeymen
>>53563948
yes
>>53563952
no so much that one one has any idea, just that the forum is so fucking broken that anyone who could help will never see your request for help.
>>53563967
>because muh DRM boogeymen
Figures. Fuck that shit.
It's actually amazing that bios is still so fucking good after all this time. That said it has the simplest job ever, which is why it's hilarious how bad UEFI is.
>>53563948
>The Plasma 4 desktop is unmaintained since August 2015.[1] It is no longer in the official repositories since December 2015.[2]
That said just because it's not in the official repos doesn't mean you can't install it. It's still just a linux distro.
Fucking fedora is hell.. I don't know how to fix it up - it downloads updates with bytes / second.
>>53564080
If you don't like Fedora don't use it?
>>53564090
Then use what potato?
I think I'm rather more interested in trying to find a solution for this than to just 'meh close it.
>>53563234
Never mind genius, with a command line I fixed it my self and now using the grub boot manager. Working like a fucking champ now.
>>53564097
*buntu if you're lazy, arch if you're not.
>>53564111
I don't imagine how arch is going to have less problem if not much more.
Maybe it's a fun to go distro for sys admins that have years of experience and at this point do it for fun - but for a noob... notyvm
>>53564129
So jump on buntu. I haven't personally had Arch give me any issues I didn't give myself.
So something weird is happening with Compton. On a fresh xubuntu install I installed it, configured it from that link on the arch wiki for screen tearing, and set it to start on startup with compton -b in the Xfce settings.
Then I wanted to log out and back in to test it. When I tried to log back in it just hung on the Xfce logo. I uninstalled compton via tty and I was able to log in again so it's obviously compton doing this
What is wrong?
>>53564538
Does it work if you run it manually (compton -b in terminal) after logging in?
>>53564538
try addingcompton -b <your settings> &to your startup script
>>53564590
No. I even turned off the xfce compositor, and compton -b did nothing for screen tearing.
>>53564604
What do you mean startup script?
>>53564538
Don't use the -b option, it doesn't work for all graphics cards/drivers.
>>53564695
compton doesn't fix screen tearing by default, are you sure the config in use is set to fix it?
>>53564702
So I just use "compton" in the command box in the Xfce sessions and startup section?
>>53564729
I'm stupid, I made the config file wrong. Compton -b now crashes everything.
And yeah I'm sure the config I'm using works, because it works on my laptop.
>>53564730
that should work, despite what the anon says. But you can create a config file for it, just follow any instructions you have found but just exclude "-b", it has never worked like that on my hardware and makes little sense anyway, it's a kind of pointless option.
-b, --daemon
Daemonize process. Fork to background after initialization.
Causes issues with certain (badly-written) drivers.
>>53564604
Why & when >>53564885
>>53564851
I just tried it. It didn't crash, but things were fucked up. Items weren't loading on the taskbar, some things froze, others didn't.
I've never had this happen before.
I'm using this config btw
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2144468&p=12644745#post12644745
>>53564851
>>53564885
exactly, never understood the point of it, it's compton, a compositor, it's not like it runs in front of other programs by not daemonizing it.
>>53564921
delete that or rename it and just run it simply as
>compton --vsync opengl
>>53564928
I don't think you understand what it means by daemonizing it. By daemonizing it it self sustains, if not run with -b then it's a child of whatever initialised it. It's visibility means nothing.
>>53564945
It runs as a background process anyway, if you start it with X then it dies with X, in which case you wouldn't need it anyway. I understand what daemonizing a process means but there is very little actual point to it in compton's case.
>>53564970
Well it depends on what you're using to start it.
>>53564944
And that worked....weird.
I've never had the config fail me before.
>>53564991
Ok so next, comment everything out in our config and enable things one by one until you get to the problem.
>>53565005
Every line? This will take some time
>>53565005
Also, should I use the same command
>compton --vsync opengl
each time I'm testing it?
>>53565029
That config is mostly bloat anyway. Personally I wouldn't bother and just use a simpler config with what you know you actually need.
>>53565049
Not if you use a config, those things should be set in the config if you use one. You can specify the config with something like this:
>compton --config ~/.config/compton.conf
>>53565051
How do I figure out what I need?
>>53565061
Ok
>>53565095
If you don't know what you need then stick to what you know you need (no tearing and something that works - compton --vsync opengl).
If you want shadows or fades then look how to add them to the config, it's all documented. Work your way up, if you don't know you need something then you probably don't right now.
>>53565029
Well what I always do in these cases is comment (or whatever) half, test, if I find what I'm looking for I halve the half and repeat, otherwise I go to the other half.
>>53565095
try this one https://bpaste.net/show/da8bbd2009ee
enable what you need
>>53565133
Well, it doesn't break anything, but it severely lowers my framerate.
I'd try disable some of it, but I really don't know what most of it does.
>>53565290
>but I really don't know what most of it does.
You don't need it then. Try changing fading = true; to false, that's the obvious one. But that config with that set to false is about the same as using compton --vsync opengl, just stick to that unless you need to use something else.
>>53565325
That's probably what I'm going to do, though compton --vsync opengl doesn't completely get rid of the tearing.
It gets rid of about 95% of it, but there is an occasional tear every so often.
>>53565361
I also found the problem line in the original config that kept breaking everything
>glx-no-rebind-pixmap=true;
though without it, the entire thing is pretty shitty
Is there a way to have your refresh rate set-up by the time you get to the log-in screen?
Right now for me it's always
>login at 60hz
>screen flashes, goes to the 144hz I set
Speaking of 144hz, why does 120/144hz go choppy as fuck for video playback, 60 is fine.
wat do?
not really relevant but has anyone tried the amiga OS recently?
considering it since someone i respect uses it.
>>53566120
Shut down, install Arch properly.
>>53566139
My time is not worthless
>>53566148
Probably shouldn't install Manjaro then.
>>53566148
then anything but manjaro too bee onest
So what's the better way to do:
Install Kubuntu desktop and remove unwanted apps.. and it's all functional
OR
Install minimal ISO - then install kubuntu-full without any shit in it.. and try to do everything alone
^ I attempted to do the one above and I've spent my last 40 minutes fixing windows boot.
Maybe second time will be with luck.
If I go with option one what's the best way to uninstall unwanted software? Like what commands should I use or maybe there's a functional gui for that.
>>53566321
Better or easier? Kubuntu will require you to learn nothing.
