Realistically, how safe is it to run pirated programs on w10?
>microsoft collects data about frequently used programs
>elsewhere, bootleg torrents get taken down and stored in a database of hashes
>microsoft can cross reference hash codes of illegal programs with data collected from users
>fbi-knocks-down-your-door,-what-do.jpg
Is it possible for this to happen, or am I just paranoid?
they can and will delete pirated microsoft software, including games.
Just use a pirated Win 7 with pirated programs, you huge cock sucking autistic faggot.
Win 10 is a meme, it's useless.
>>53555153
I don't think that'll happen in the foreseeable future
>fbi
If you're talking about a personal computer or two running typical programs, you're probably legally safe. I've never heard of any instance whatsoever where someone suffered consequences from that. I challenge someone to find a legit story of that happening.
Doing it on a larger scale, or for business use, is different.
>>53555210
>Win 10 is a meme
What does that even mean?
>>53555153
a lot of people have already been arrested from win 10 detecting pirated applications.
I moved to ubuntu and suggest everyone else does too.
>2016
>still using Microshit
What are you even doing here?
Technical people should't use that crap.
It's for girls and gaymers.
Literally every single third-party non-free program on my computer is pirated, even fucking Sublime Text. Stop being a sissy and just do it, faggot.
You know how many people use pirated software?
Hundreds, literally hundreds.
>>53555267
interesting opinion
>>53555289
it's not an opinion it's the truth
no self-respecting tech-enthusiast would use W10
it's for gaymers
>>53555246
But what about the games, mang?
I don't think that's going to happen anywhere other than the US.
In CZ, there's a law that states if you download for personal use with 0 profit, you can pirate whatever. Once you upload, you're fucked.
I've heard that in the past Win10 has actually deleted pirated games or at least what Win10 detects as pirated. You don't need Win10. It sucks. Use Windows 7
>>53555246
>source
>my ass
faggot
>>53555246
>a lot of people have already been arrested from win 10 detecting pirated applications.
citation needed
>>53555301
>self-respecting tech-enthusiast
>tech-enthusiast
well, I'm not. I'm a college student with hobbies, and I like using programs I can't use on linux. and for that matter, there are a handful of linux programs that I would love to have on my laptop, but it's just not conducive for me to run an alternative os on my daily machine (and I'm not saying that because I'm scared to try it, I'm saying that from the experience of having done it for years).
>>53555370
Those articles were baseless. In reality it's most likely that one of the .dll files included with some cracks might be detected by antiviruses, which has happened for decades now.
>>53555378
>>53555380
They track everything you do from typing in your start menu to analyzing every file on your pc and save it to their cloud so it can be processed by copyright trolls.
Windows 10 = botnet honeypot and they only way to remain safe is by using linux (I recomment linux mint or ubuntu).
>>53555153
The fact that you have to worry that YOUR computer that YOU bought might fuck with YOUR programs should be reason enough to rethink your decision to use windows 10. Read the fucking eula, windows 10 straight up tells you it's going to keylog the fuck out of you. The eula allows them to do whatever the fuck they want to your shit and you agreed to it because you are a mindless normie fuck.
tl;dr - delete windows 10 malware immediately and install gentoo
>>53555436
>that YOU bought
kek. only a true freetard could confuse breaking the law by stealing copyrighted material with "buying".
>>53555153
>running windows 10
I am yet to see a reason people do this. Even if you are a winbabby, why not just use w7?
>>53555336
Also Czech, could you link me §§§s regarding it? I'm really interested to learn, but also really lazy to put any effort into searching.
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/09/28/privacy-and-windows-10/
>3. Advertising Data We Don’t Collect
>Unlike some other platforms, no matter what privacy options you choose, neither Windows 10 nor any other Microsoft software scans the content of your email or other communications, or your files, in order to deliver targeted advertising to you.
I think this is why linux users are spreading so many lies about windows 10, their beloved google got BTFO over this and they have to do damage control.
>>53555153
You only need to worry if you're using pirated software for businness purposes. Say stuff like adobe programs, autodesk programs, editing software and the likes. You will eventually get fucked over.
On the other hand if you're a neet you can pirate anything, the chances you'll get in legal trouble are tiny. Not 0 but pretty close.
>>53555540
I would say there's just half truths. There's unnecessary tracking, but blowing it out of proportion actually seems to give some benefit on media. Fearmongering seems to be a little bit overused as a tactic nowadays.
>>53555153
I masturbate to lolicon and run WinRAR pirated on Windows 10 :-)
>>53555410
>and I like using programs I can't use on linux
???
>>53555628
AND DOWNLOAD TORRENTS
MAYBE THE BOTNET IS A MEME
>>53555153
I have full Office suite + Adobe shit pirated and they are still here, even after the TH2 update which "removes" software, everything I installed, pirated or not, is still here.
>>53555433
>Citation needed
>>53555153
Its not even safe to run original W10 alone m8.
>>53555540
>this is why linux users are spreading so many lies about windows 10
read their eula, they scan all your documents
>>53555238
English, motherfucker.
At the most basic level it means people are doing it as an imitation what they see (as opposed to any practical reason).
>>53555628
If lolicon is legal on your country, there shouldn't be an issue. It is 100% confirmed legal in mine.
Of course until some of the women on TV from the extreme left are taken seriously enough. Then it shall be banned like everything.
>>53555647
It's not that it's a meme.
It's that they don't give two fucks.
They want money for data. There's not a single person hired for every other person who uses the operating system. Also it's always more effective to take the content away from people than to bring every single one of them to jail.
Hell I can assure you many people have a legit key of Windows 10 from having upgraded a pirated version, Microsoft knows this well and they simply don't give a fuck. They know full well what they're doing.
>>53555715
>>Of course until some of the women on TV from the extreme left are taken seriously enough. Then it shall be banned like everything.
Don't fool yourself, the right wing hates freedom too, it's just that they generally don't agree with the left about which freedoms they want to restrict. Porn falls into the overlap where feminazis and religious whackjobs would both like to see it banned.
you're right that not many people, MS included, are giving fucks right now, but they have the capability to remove it if they start giving a fuck. That's what should worry you, you shouldn't even give them the capability. Otherwise you'll be complacent and for years think "but I'm just an uninteresting everyman, what would they want with me?" Then one day, they get around to caring about something that you are/do/have, and they'll have the capability to remotely monitor and delete it.
>>53555246
>Suggesting to move from one botnet to another.
Kill you are self
>>53555672
>read their eula
Telemetry has a very specific purpose and does not collect the large majority of the information from the EULA. It also helps to put the EULA into perspective. It's not a technical analysis or blueprint, it's a legal document written (only for lawyers) that must cover absolutely everything Microsoft does across the entire machine even if it does not get transmitted back to the company.
>favorite cities, the teams you follow, the stocks you track
The Weather, Map, MSN Sports and MSN Money apps included in Windows 10.
If you want the weather, map, sports or money apps to show you anything relevant, it needs to 'collect' and 'store' the favorites cities, team information and stocks that you have added and it's the same if you want the Maps app to show you your home address or other favorites, it needs to 'collect' and 'store' the addresses.
>your contacts and relationships
The People app included in Windows 10.
If you want the app to show you your contacts then it's required to 'collect' and 'store' store your contacts when you add them. You can also add birthdays and other data for the Calendar app to show you reminders.
>>53555246
>this is what freetards resort to
nice FUD
>>53555672
>>53555888
>"[Y]our first and last name, email address, postal address, phone number, … passwords, password hints, and similar security information, … your age, gender, country and preferred language, … your location,
You provide this information when registering a Microsoft, Live or Skype account and purchasing things such as skype credit or items from the Windows Store: https://account.microsoft.com This information is also required for account recovery (You will be asked all of the above information when you try recover your account after the password and secret questions have been changed) and purchasing anything online (All of this this information is required by credit card companies to verify the order).
>credit card number and the security code
When you purchase Skype credit or items from the Windows Store: https://account.microsoft.com/billing/payments
>items you purchase
Account billing history: https://commerce.microsoft.com/PaymentHub/Transaction
The ability to view your Billing history is very important, so Microsoft needs to 'collect' and 'store' items you purchase and every company does this for both legal and security reasons.
>the web pages you visit, and the search terms you enter
The Edge and Cortana apps included in Windows 10.
Firefox, Chrome, Google search and every individual website has been 'collecting' and 'storing' the pages you visit and your search terms for over a decade. I can log into Google analytics and view region, device, gender, age, pages visited, time spent on those pages and a LOT more information about you and others than what is currently being collected by Edge (I can also target specific data using Google Adwords).
>IP address, device identifiers
Every website records IP address and device identifiers.
This has been recorded by every website and online service for over 20 years and is very important for online security.
>>53555690
>meme
>English
Pick one
>>53555672
>>53555888
>>53555904
>your documents, photos, music or video you upload
The Onedrive app included in Windows 10.
This information is 'collected' when you upload stuff to Onedrive, then 'stored' in order to show all your data on Onedrive from Explorer or via the website and would be kinda pointless and useless if it didn't.
>subject line and body of email
The Mail app included in Windows 10.
This information is 'collected' during sync and 'stored' to show your emails when reading your email and opening the app.
>text or other content of an instant message, audio and video recording of a video message."
Skype.
Web browsers 'collect' and 'store' your favorites, Hotmail and Gmail 'collect' and 'store' the entire content of your email. Just typing into the forum post reply box is considered 'collection' and 'storage' (by Tenforums.com) since the text and images you're about to post on the forum are 'collected' when you type, then 'stored' inside a memory buffer, before being transmitted and 'collected' by a socket and 'stored' inside database files on the server.
Companies have been sued over not declaring information is 'collected' and 'stored' due to the fact that machines must 'collect' information during an action and 'store' the information in a memory buffer for processing and in a file for logging (For Example; During an online purchase your credit card information is 'collected' then 'stored' inside a memory buffer for the duration of a transaction)... The EULA is a legal document written for lawyers who will sue over things like that. It's stupid but that's why EULAs have to state that you are 'collecting' and 'storing' things even if they are never transmitted back to the company (e.g. Microsoft) and only ever done on the local machine.
There are also zero industry security experts backing up the claims of Windows 10 'spying'... I think that's very damning evidence in itself.
>>53555888
>>53555904
>>53555923
Why are you here? You will never convince the technologically illiterate retards here.
Learn to block botnet traffic on your network you cuck.
If I have CP on windows 10, am I screwed or is this just a meme?
>>53556019
Every image that touches your HDD is scanned for hashes which are sent in line to be checked against databases of known child abuse images.
>>53556019
meme unless you use onedrive
People really like 3d flat lolis?>>53556019
>>53556019
Just reported you. Hope you know how to zero out your hard drive.
>fbi-knocks-down-your-door,-what-do.jpg
>Implying I live in the shithole known as the US of A
ayyy kek
>>53555153
Install windows 7 pirated.
Upgrade to 10.
Get a free valid key.
>>53555640
he's talking about games anon, it's all this board is about, fucking games.
>>53556203
you didn't even read the post you retarded winfag
>>53555153
>microsoft collects data about frequently used programs
If you allow them.
>fbi-knocks-down-your-door
Even if you allowed them to collect your data and they know for sure that you have pirated software, somebody has to sue first.
MS would be dumb to alienate a huge percentage of their user base ... so you're safe. AND after all the "ifs" if the still decide to sue ... there are MILLIONS of pirates ... although knowing America they will probably run with it and jail even more people.
>>53555301
I have to use Win10 to be able to run most of the software I need - I could do with older versions but then I will need to do a lot of manual installations.
SInce the world of IT became so bloated the last 5 years, it's just not possible anymore to stay behind and 'make your own path'
>>53556230
I did.
Thats the whole point.
You pirate 7, you get the free upgrade to 10 which also gives you a free 10 key.
Heck if you are still paranoid after getting the upgrade to 10 you can literally download the win 10 iso off the website and wipe the install.
Heck why am I even arguing I use Linux.
>>53555433
>no citation
>>53555832
>Don't fool yourself, the right wing hates freedom too
I don't fool myself at all, thank you. I know there's a right wing, but it's enchained, restricted and constantly mocked. The future matters, but so does the present. I'll criticize both sides when both sides are able to dance around.
I know one thing. If I have dubious content in my machine, it's been already tracked, regardless of which system I'm using. Having an internet connection by itself helps a lot with that.
If it so happens that they delete content they don't want from your own hard drive, I think having it deleted would definitely be the least of your worries. I don't like that whole "If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear", but I strongly believe that we're not all special snowflakes that will fall under a situation in which, individually, we will lose all that we care about. It wouldn't even be practical.
>>53555238
It's a botnet made for gaymers such as yourself designed to make sure you get shilled.
>bbbut muh pirated games
Have fun in jail, kiddo.
>>53555153
You're a paranoid moron.
>>53556406
if you read you'd see he is already using windows 10...
>>53556312
>MS would be dumb to alienate a huge percentage of their user base
>>53556440
>but I strongly believe that we're not all special snowflakes that will fall under a situation in which, individually, we will lose all that we care about. It wouldn't even be practical.
"First they came for the X, and I didn't complain, because I was not an X...."
of course they won't do it all at once, they'll do it bit by bit. They'll start off with the least-controversial stuff where they have the best chance of winning. Why do you think the FBI picked a terrorism case to try and force Apple to crack phones? Because if you say something is for fighting terrorism, a lot of people will go along with it whatever it is. If MS started scanning files on your hard drive (instead of just in the cloud), and said "Don't worry, it's only to catch pedos", most people would be all "Oh, go right ahead then". And by then they have the infrastructure to scan whatever they damn well please, and the only thing stopping them is a vague promise they made, which they can revoke at any time in the fine print of the EULA that nobody reads.
You can't count on the motives of Microsoft, or of the government, or of any other such organization to protect you, because their motives change over time depending on who is leading them, along with the mood of the times. And if you trusted them, but then things change and they become hostile, you're fucked, they already have their way in, along with whatever data they collected on you in the meantime.
>>53555923
All the information is encrypted you dumbfuck THATS WHY WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK MICROSOFT IS COLLECTING
>>53555153
most of my software is pirated and nothing has happened
you deserve to be keylogged if you're dumb enough to use a consumertard version anyway
>>53555246
>people only use Windows because of how easy it is to pirate for it
>MS cracks down on pirating
>no reason to use Windows any more
Year of the Linux Desktop WHEN
>>53556582
I'm going to say this: Using a different system in order to avoid such future would be the equivalent to having a weak 5 year old kid throw the tiniest stones he can find at a panzer.
And you'd have to throw perhaps a massive ton of weak 5 year old kids at that panzer to put a dent on it. One reason being that even if you were to take everyone into a linux distro not being maintained by corporations, and adapted them well outside of their comfort zone, that would just solve one tiny problem.
>>53556977
>"We can't change it, it's too big of a problem, we have to accept corporate and government surveillance"
That's only true if you believe it is, and give up.
> agency with less employees than a small suburb
> going to come knock your door down for using purble-place-pro-2016-paid-edition-cracked.exe
good one op
>>53556582
>they have the infrastructure to scan whatever they damn well please
They already have but going for pedos and "terrorists" is easy to sell. Going after a huge part of your user base isn't. Look at the number of torrents for popular stuff like GoT, music or some games, and these are just torrents.
>You can't count on the motives of Microsoft, or of the government, or of any other such organization to protect you
Obviously not, they are care about protecting themselves, gaining more power/control and yidda yadda. Trying to jail or at least extort MILLIONS of people, would be a suicidal move.
Obviously all the spying is dangerous and might turn out to be even more dangerous to the public but this goes quite beyond OP.
>>53557010
I'm sorry, that's how it is. This is not like that kind of propaganda "well, everyone pirates music as well, so I might as well". You have no way of measuring how exactly it'd be possible to avoid this future.
>>53557010
I don't think he's saying that. If the problem is government or a company, the logical move is to go against the government, and create legislature that outlaws corporate surveillance. Not to hide in your little bubble.
This obviously needs more people and what is the best way to convince the average user that privacy matters than by showing him/her, how his/her lack of privacy will be abused.
>>53555153
This is a tool of the Illuminati to observe, infiltrate, and ultimately control the population. Can't believe no one talks about this.
>>53557221
This is by far the biggest bullshit I have ever read. There's no need to 'control' a population that's consumeristic and consumes what you feed them.
You don't need to infiltrate something you're a part of yourself. That's like saying you're gonna infiltrate your family.
No one needs to use organisations like windows to observe anything. With enough money you can buy most of the data available of and about people and additional to this a company like google is far more interesting.
>>53555246
Nice source you got there.
>>53555904
That doesn't sound so bad, since I don't use any of those.
What else is bad about it? I hardly ever use real info when I sign up for stuff unless it's important and actually HAVE to enter in real info.
>>53557178
I do believe that indeed, opening refuges is not exactly the top solution to this issue. I don't see how switching to debian for instance would, in 10 years, keep the government from taking your hard drive and smashing it to pieces if they wanted because you're not making it extremely easy for them. If that were to happen, that is.
>>53557659
>opening refuges
Kek'd
>>53557712
Heheh
I just typed that too fast I guess. Refugee centres or something like that.
>>53558098
Centering refugees?
And then what anon, bomb the place?:^)
>>53555153
It won't lead to a knock on the door from the FBI. It might, might lead to some of your pirated software getting deleted or crippled.
The real issue is a more fundamental one. The human right to privacy which includes, obviously, the right to not to be spied on just because of the EULA of a company that has all but monopolized the market and can consequently enforce draconian licence agreements on the users without risking much.
>>53557659
Why smashing hard drives if you can smash faces?
I downloaded a patch which disabled everything tracking related on W10, or claimed to anyway, so I've always felt okay, but I might move over to Linux to be sure.
>>53555153
Most likely nothing will happen until your government has a reason to go after you, but realistically not being a pirate won't save you in that case
>>53555977
Good luck blocking botnet traffic and not having it transmitted while you are downloading a security patch.
>>53555451
>defending intellectual property
>>53558908
I'm a true freetard and I defend intellectual property.
I'm also a keen believer in something called fair use, or homecopy
There is literally no interest for MS to do this.
Your ISP already knows what you're downloading, the only person who cares about what you're pirating is the copyright holder.
MS has no stake, in fact they profit off piracy indirectly (less people would use windows if they couldnt torrent on it).
>>53555246
Can confirm, the campus store's MS rep had a list of the names, dorm room numbers, and webcam photos of everybody who pirated a recent game.
Our whole floor had to sit through a two hour Windows 10 Genuine Advantage presentation because of these gaymers.
>>53559005
Same thing happened at the university I am currently at in the UK.
This was just 4 hours after our flat had the down smashed in at 6am and we were rounded up in the living room in just underwear whilst police took all computer equipment out the door.
>>53555238
(You're) YOUR mom uses win 10.
>>53555977
Lol who has time for that?
You Windows babies are always slamming Linux people for wasting time, now you suggest a gigantic waste of time so you can use a botnet but retain some privacy?
Holy fuck Windows users confirmed for weak retarded babies.
>>53555246
>Zjewbunut
ARCHCH
>>53555286
Under-
>>53555289
Over-
Rated.
>>53555378
>>53555380
Oy Vey.
>>53555651
They keep some smart ass monitored. Let's say a big program got pirated and immediately after the leaked rars are deleted... If you are smart enough to grab it, they could count on you for successive investigations.
>>53555856
POSTING SHIT AGAINST A TRUE INFORMED POST
>fuck (You)
>>53555888
JUST LEAVE HOMOSOFT SHILL
LEAVE
>>53559184
microshaft pls :^)
>>53555436
>this anon gets it
I have to be able to run Win10 for testing for work. So I run it in a VM that's off if I'm not testing. And that VM is setup to be as isolated as possible from the host.
That stinking pile of shit will never be my main OS and will never run directly on any PC I own.
>>53555153
because fbi totally cares about some autist in a basement pirating shit games
Run it.
Been running pirated shit for months.
