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Why is the iPhone camera the best smartphone camera?
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Why is the iPhone camera the best smartphone camera?
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>>53551855
Because the sensor is made by Sony.
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>>53551855
Its fucking not though. Have you seen the reviews for the S7 camera?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR3vHEjeDrU

The iPhone probably has one of the worst bumps too.
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"it's a sony"
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>>53551890
>Samshit spend months toiling after iPhone 6S is out
>end up with something marginally better, subjectively

top kek
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<iShit
<not Lumia
meem harder
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I keep seeing ads with the caption "photograph taken with a iPhone 6s" but the camera is only 12Mpx, not something to brag about
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>>53551855
why not?
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Daily reminder that cameras are the reason smartphones are so thick.
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>>53552374
You must be retarded to think the MP count is what makes a quality photo
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>>53551855
I had better luck with Lumia cameras. The Lumia Camera app is fucking unbeatable.
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>>53552302
lol iFaggot tiptopkeke Sm.H t.BH f-Ami
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>>53551870
This.
/thread
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>>53551855
whats is Samsung Galaxy s6 edge plus
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>>53552399
I have sony z5p with 23MP. Pictures are a shit
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Why do people care about phone'camera quality? If you want to take great pics use a fucking dslr. Phone camera are shit and will always be shit
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>>53552847
Because fuck taking a DSLR + lens everywhere you go.
Also DSLR isn't a magic word for quality, most dumbfucks these days with DSLR cameras use the piece of shit 18-55mm kit lens that produces worse pictures than any modern smartphone camera.
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>>53552878
Thats what I said. Dslr + good lense and all what you need. Also its not because you use a dslr that your pics are good. The big difference is to be able to use the camera manually. Phones cams are all auto whicch is shit.
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>>53552970
Sure, I'll just go around with a 1000 $ camera + lens instad of using a 600 $ phone for my casual pics
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>>53552970
Lumia, LG, Sony, iPhone and Samsung all support fully manual shooting. You get to manually adjust ISO, Shutter speed and focus on those phones.
iPhone sucks the most for manual shooting, as the shutter speed can only go as low as 1/4 compared to 30 sec - bulb on the Samsung, LG and Sony.
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>>53552847
This nigga buying groceries and getting oil changes while carrying around a dslr camera.
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>>53552502
So why can't Sony make their own cameras decent? I got a Xperia 3C and even iPhone 5s camera looks much better.
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>>53553024

It's because Japanese companies are paying a constant game of catch-up when it comes to software. They have a strong tradition of solid hardware.
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>>53552985
>I need an amazing quality phone cam for my casual pics.

I don't get the concept of taking the time to snap a pic while you ain't living the moment to the fullest. Immersion in the momment is the best picture since its living in your memory
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>>53551855
iPhone users are conceited self absorbed assholes so they focused on the only thing they care about?
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I was kinda disappointed when I saw this review showcasing the video quality of the iphone vs the nokia 1020 because I don't like ios. The review makes the iphone's video capabilities look great. While it is known that the iphone is worse compared to other flagships photo wise, I haven't seen anything with comparable video quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvEfK1F-mkc

When the fuck will nokia release their next camera phone flagship?
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>>53551855
Nope, check the G4 camera or the G5 camera.
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>>53553093
Sometimes you just want to snap a quick pic and have good details
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>>53553158
Well, in lowlight Nokia is still better but with enough light, it sure gets slaughtered by 6s.

Are there any WPfags here? Is the shutter speed as annoyingly slow as on Android?
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>>53552970
>Phones cams are all auto whicch is shit.

Truth.

Any compact with manual controls is a huge improvement.
Some even fit in your skinny jeans.
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>>53553314
The Lumia 1020 doesn't have fixed function support for the 41MP camera so it takes a while to take and save each shot on it, compared to almost instant on modern flagships.
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>>53553314
I found this via google for the lumia 950
>max 4 seconds and 50-3200 iso

no info on min shutter speed.

Can anyone recommend an android phone with comparable video quality to the iphone and an sd card slot?
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>>53553403
1/4000 is the minimum for manual mode. Even faster on auto.
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>>53552878
>piece of shit 18-55mm kit lens
can' t find bait. jpg
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>>53551855
No idea, I use one of these when I want to take good pictures
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>>53553022
Why do you need to take high quality pictures when getting groceries or doing an oil change?
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>>53552878
>18-55mm kit lens that produces worse pictures than any modern smartphone camera
No replacement for glass
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>>53552878
>18-55mm kit lens that produces worse pictures than any modern smartphone camera.

Nah, even the kit lens is way better than a smartphone camera.

Still a waste of a decently big sensor though.
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>>53552433
>windows phone
>smartphone
Pick 1
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>>53553596
>Nah, even the kit lens is way better than a smartphone camera.
Not on a crop. Go ahead and try, you will fail.
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>>53551855
Plenty of other phones use identical or superior cameras.
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>>53551855
The camera is not a higher megapixel rate than most run of the line best buy tier camera.
But from what I have gathered is Apple has done a very good job optimizing it.
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>>53553022
>getting oil changes
>he can't change the oil in his car himself
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>>53553611
Yes, even on a crop.

You have to remember smartphones have about a 8X crop factor.
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>>53553637
Not him, but the cost to get your oil changed is marginally more expensive than the cost of the oil. Why even bother dealing with it and disposing of the old oil if someone else will?
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>>53553618
Processing fails on other phones. Although some can shoot in RAW, which the iPhone definitely can't do.
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>>53553259
Based G4
>F1.8 aperture
>laser autofocus
Never once used the flash.
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>>53553666
That's another argument though. The camera is the hardware, not the software.
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>>53553403
>Can anyone recommend an android phone with comparable video quality to the iphone and an sd card slot?

S7. Even technigger called it the best smartphone for video right now in his latest review
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>>53553631
>megapixel

Ah, that magic word people who know nothing about photography love to use.
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>>53553684
He's such a massive samshill it's not even funny.
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>>53553664
It's only marginally more expensive if you go to some shitty quick lube place that uses the same crappy oil grade for all cars and is employed by technicians that don't know what they're doing

It takes 20 minutes to do an oil change your self at home instead of wasting time driving to a chop and waiting there, and you can dispose of the oil at a recycling centre the same time you dispose of old light bulbs and batteries
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>>53553664
>tfw car has been in and out of the dealership for a month because the mechanics keep fucking up simple brake work
You do it yourself because you want it done right.
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>>53553694
>considers nexus 6p the best phone of 2015

Though his fetish over ugly samshit glass s6 was pretty fucking weird. Don't even get started about how in love he was with the gold s6.

Gold is such a fucking ugly phone color god damn
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>>53553724
I don't disagree, but you can say that about every single thing ever. I don't want to learn how to fix a washing machine, a refrigerator, an air conditioner, plumbing, electrician work etc...

There are some things I care to be proficient at and some things I'll let other people be proficient at them.
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>>53553788
And this is why you'll keep getting skinned for your shekels
>Paying someone to do something you can easily do yourself on a lazy Sunday
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>>53553788
>Why fix a computer myself? I can just take it to the proficient people at Geek Squad to do it for me!
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that 120fps slow-mode video capture iphone has is nice, why dont other phones have it
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>>53553806
I can afford the extra $10 every 3000-5000 miles.

>>53553827
For normies that aren't technologically inclined it makes sense.
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>>53553860
They do, it's just the software for it sucks.
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>>53553863
>$10 labour
see
>>53553706

They're using the shittiest and cheapest oil and filters imaginable. You're slowly killing your car
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>>53553860
6p and s7 have 240fps 720p slow motion.. I'm sure other android flagships have that too
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>>53553827
I don't know how to fix cars. I can change a tire but with runflats I can usually make it to a garage and let them do it.
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>>53553940
It's easy. Bleeding brake lines and the cooling system is the same, probably even easier, as setting up a custom water cooling loop
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>>53553910
I'll check to see what kind of oil next time. I take it to the dealer to get the oil changed during a regular maintenance check so it is technically "free" with the check.

I probably wouldn't take it to my local shitty jiffylube, but I admit I have no idea what kind of oil they put in my car.

Your picture demonstrates not changing oil in like 60,000 miles. That would never happen if you got even the cheapest new oil every 5k miles.
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>>53553706
Don't they have annual checkups in your country?
That's when normal people get their oil changed, as it's in the garage anyways.

Also I think it's illegal to change oil without a special floor here.
But then I don't even have a garage and it's certainly illegal to do it outside.
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>>53554019
>America
>annual checkups
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>>53553684
thanks, looking up his vid now
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>>53553314
My 930 runs fine
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>>53552878
>8-55mm kit lens that produces worse pictures than any modern smartphone camera.

You probably bought a cheap DSLR kit and now you're mad because you don't know how to operate it manually.
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>>53553580
Don't know, you'd think the camera on a phone easily stuffed in your pocket would be suitable enough for most daily situations.
But clearly we're not on dslr guy's level, who is disgusted by your shitty cell phone pictures. Better be carrying that dslr around with you everywhere in case you happen upon a photo opportunity, my friend.
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>>53553338
What about the LG G4
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>>53554125
I think DSLR guy will be fine with whatever pictures a phone camera takes, it's when people start comparing high quality phone cameras is when things get reetarded
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>>53553637
You think a guy who carries around a dslr with him at all times instead of a cell phone is a guy who would actually change his oil himself? Wouldn't dare risk getting oil on his scarf.
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>>53553024
Oh but they do,holy shit they do. Take a look at their higher class mirror less cameras, best in their class definitely. The A7s2 almost sees in the dark dammit.
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>http://www.businessinsider.com/iphone-6-vs-dslr-and-point-and-shoot-2015-2?IR=T
Obviously not on DSLR level but shit, it's nice.
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>>53554207
Anon, we're talking about phones here.
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>>53554172
But why does someone need to take high quality pictures wherever they go?
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>>53554323
Don't ask me, ask the guy who said cell phone cameras are shit and the only thing worthy of taking photos is a dslr. Which means either missing photo opportunities due to not having your fancy camera with you, or carrying it around everywhere so you don't miss out on those opportunities.
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>>53554414
More like you don't need a super fancy camera in a phone on a day-to-day basis
If you're going to be taking fancy pictures it'll be at an event like a wedding or party or something, that's where you'd take a DSLR
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>>53551870
Then why is the Z5 camera so bad in comparison? Software seems to matter more than the hardware.
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man the iphone's video still looks better to me. something about the s7 edge makes it look like the contrast is too high or something. also the s7 edge has some weird sharpening that makes the metal fence look pixel-ish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2psXg8CSn1w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egWkKFnMYzQ

i think i'll just wait for nokia to release their new flag ship.
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>>53553689
Considering it is just a digital term for the word instead of saying picture resolution because the dimensions of standards don't exist. Fuck, your response made me 3/10
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>>53554152
I agree that comparing cell phone cameras is pointless considering the differences are marginal and not noticed by average users or casual photos. A steady hand with good framing and lighting is a bigger difference than different phone cameras.
Though, saying phone cameras are shit and to only use high quality cameras seems ridiculous. If I'm going for top notch photography then it makes sense to use a good camera. But people wanting better quality cameras on their phones drives the industry to keep improving them. I enjoy the decent quality photos my phone takes compared to the shit we had 10 years ago. Not wanting better would be like quitting after CRT TV's because 70mm projection is the only thing worthy and there's no point in wanting more out of cheaper, more affordable, commercial TV's. We wouldn't have plasma or 4k, just like we'd still have 1.3mp phone cameras because why bother innovating when there's a better, rich, fancy version already.
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>>53554472
Exactly. But why settle for shit cameras on phones? Just because there's a quality way of taking photos, why not improve phone cameras to not be shit? So your only options aren't a crappy phone camera or a big expensive camera and lens.
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>>53554703
Most phone cameras are great though, the pissing contest between Samsung and iPhone owners is just getting old
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>>53554720
I agree. Knowing how to take a good photo makes a bigger difference than the current varying phone cameras.
Also, I have a turbo so I'm just over here quietly enjoying my phone and not being a part of the Samsung vs iPhone meme.
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Stand aside smelly peasants.
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>iphone
>taking quality images

nice meme
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>>53553689
But we aren't talking about photography, there is a board for that. We are talking about why the iPhone takes good pictures.
The reason has nothing to do with the hardware as much as the optimization done through the software.
Good enough optimizing can make shitty cameras take good pictures. It is automatically optimized, the default is good but not great. A dumb ass can take a terrible picture on an iPhone.
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>>53551855
>best smartphone camera
KEK
That title belongs to the Pureview 808 and lumia icon
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>>53554033
Euro bros. Americans don't get their oil changed every year. They get it changed every 3-5 months on average. We drive a lot more than you.
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>>53551855
>OnePlus X
>literally 5x cheaper
>13MP
>8MP front
justify yourselves, apple fags.
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>>53551855
Its good, but useless without raw.
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>>53555466
Shot on iPhone 6s Billboard quality shit right there
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>>53553913
>6p and s7 have 240fps 720p slow motion.. I'm sure other android flagships have that too
My nexus 6p does
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>>53555514
>>13MP
>>8MP front

>MP means anything

How about the lens, dynamic range, iso capability, chromatic aberrations etc...
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>53555555
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>>53555552
>>53555559
ur le fail
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>>53555552
kek
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>>53555555
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>>53552847
spoken like a true fedora
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iphone cameras have always been shit. My cheap as shit chinkphone was able to take better pictures than my sisters iphone 5 when we went on vacation.
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>>53555550
>lens
better than ishit
>dynamic range
better than ishit
>iso capability
better than ishit
>chromatic aberrations
better than ishit
>etc...
better than ishit
don't even try.
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>buying iPhones and expecting the best camera

I'm an Apple fan and I still don't buy the phones for their cameras. You buy them for the speed, ease of use, security, nice look, and the compatibility with your Macintosh if you own one.
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>>53555604
im not saying that the iphone camera is good, im just saying that mp means nothing.
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>>53555621
this.

Megapixels are pretty much irrelevant.
And that's coming from someone who owns a 36MP camera, btw.
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>iShit
>best anything
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>>53555742
All phones have tiny sensors.

We are essentially comparing turds to see which one is the least smelly.
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>>53556097
>All phones have tiny sensors.

Poorfag detected.
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>>53555612
SHOE IN THE LOO
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>>53556192
>1 inch
>not Poorfag

I have a $3000 full frame DSLR and $4500 worth in lenses.
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>>53555612
>You buy them for speed, ease of use, security, nice look

No honestly, you buy them because the big burly dude ramming you in the ass is telling you to.

>using an iphone
>ever
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>>53553024

I have a feeling that they're seriously gimping their phones on purpose, so that their lower end point and shoot camera sales wouldn't hurt as much.
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>>53551855
it's a "camera is le sticking out phone"

this meme needs to end
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>>53556303
There just isn't enough room for the optics.

The thinner you make the camera, the shittier it will become.
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>>53556303
It's the "le phone needs to be get ever thinner for no reason forever" meme that needs to end.
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>>53554079
Look up for GSMArena's S7 review too, that one was shot entirely using another S7 and the quality is absolutely stunning
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