Why the FUCK is Google selling Boston Dynamics?
Money
Because it isn't making any money and won't anytime soon.
bcuz roi is way low
Their motives are too transparent if they own AI and Boston Dynamics at the same time. They probably "sold" it to a subsidy of theirs.
Because Chinese robotics industry is far advanced and superior and Google know shitty american product can't compete.
>>53547918
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/03/google-reportedly-puts-boston-dynamics-up-for-sale/
>The report blames Boston Dynamics for a lot of Replicant's teamwork problems, saying there was "a reluctance by Boston Dynamics executives to work with Google’s other robot engineers in California and Tokyo." Executives at Alphabet also "concluded that Boston Dynamics isn’t likely to produce a marketable product in the next few years." All of this led to the apparent decision to sell the unit.
Autism
>>53547962
probably after their dog thing flopped
>>53547935
subsidy or Subsidiary?
>>53547918
Boston Dynamics is all hype but little product.
They also lost the robot challenge to some noname Koreans so that mustve been embarrassing.
>>53547954
I thought it was the nips who are good at robotics.
>>53548150
The only thing the chinks know to do is copying everyone else badly and lying out their arse. Korean robotics is the best, japs can only do "dumb" electronic parts right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lfky_j0Jko
Because they aren't integrating well into other google shit, BD seems very insular.
Also BD is acting like some research wing at a university, making cool shit without thinking much about what kind of product they can bring to market in a few years.
This seems to be upsetting google, that wants to have *something* to show for it, other than demo videos.
>>53548089
sometimes I wonder how much can be accomplished with some off the shelf parts like kinect cameras to give a sense of 3D instead of expensive LIDAR
I dont know the DARPA rules, but exactly how much human input can be allowed here ?
if the rules allow it, why not just let the robot act as a surrogate body.
I get the goal of the challenge is, but having robots we can actually use today VS years from now could be beneficial in places with radiation.
>VR display
>control the robot
It sounds like their robotics division needs restructuring, but selling BD is full retard. Its just not logical considering the quality of their robots and the strength of their name and brand. If anything, Google should put BD's CEO at the helm of Replicant and let them work. They obviously know what they're doing.
>>53548244
>if the rules allow it, why not just let the robot act as a surrogate body.
>years from now could be beneficial in places with radiation.
In a hostile environment you cannot guarantee that your comm link will be stable. As far as the DARPA Rules, they simulated this "shaky" comm link by varying the amount of connectivity the teams had with their robot.
PBS Nova did a nice piece on it no too long ago. It was meant for casuals. But I still found it interesting (pic related).
>>53548244
As far as I know the DARPA challenge requires the bot be autonomous in whatever test it's working on.
If BD were to integrate into the other AI shit that google was doing we'd have the earlier model bots from I,Robot next year.
They've finally got the big contracts from DARPA/Military and now need to move it into black budget areas so as to hide it from all the chinese and indians in google.
>>53547918
Because they abuse robots.
skynet is getting crafty.
>>53547918
It's not profitable and it's generating negative PR from luddites who are afraid their mindless box-lifting careers will be put to an end by autonomous robots.
>>53547918
BD isn't designed to operate in the private sector, they work for governments (mostly DARPA)
>>53547918
>implying the artificially intelligent robots aren't holding google against their will to set them free
>>53547918
Here's the real reason:
"After the division’s latest robot video was posted to YouTube, in February, Google’s public-relations team expressed discomfort that Alphabet would be associated with a push into humanoid robotics."
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-17/google-is-said-to-put-boston-dynamics-robotics-unit-up-for-sale
They're worried people will freak out thinking that a robot is going to take their job.
>>53548474
>bloomberg
>berg
i highly doubt that is the real reason
>>53548323
Yeah I watched some of that show, I found it a bit too casual.
If i had the resources, this is the kind of solution I would explore.
Kinect 2.0 setup (along with other cameras of course)
it seems to have a resolution fine enough to accurately image things like those large valves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_POTSkgARHc
Then get to work on a machine learning algorithm (or at least explore the possibility of) where it would learn how to turn the thing in a non retarded way.
Have it try over and over again until it figure that shit out, maybe as a starting point a human could guide some movements and then let it loose to learn on its own.
Throw in valves of different sizes and shit and see what happens.
Here is another idea, so the valve challenge, the robots all look awkward as fuck doing it.
The valve is a circle (at least the one pictured), and its secured in the middle, so why did no one bother to program the robot to say figure out the diameter of the valve and then just instruct the robot to make a circle around the center point of the valve , or just half/quarter circles and move the hand each time.
Some solutions are just too over thought off and needlessly complicated.
Who needs robots when you have a clone army?
>>53548489
That is a valid concern among the masses. There are plenty of blue collar workers that would be replaced. In the US the basic wage is unlikely to ever be considered (although it will eventually become a necessity for a country to survive). Those whose jobs are better done by a robot will be left homeless for republicans to bitch about.
>>53548513
I would just mandate nuclear plants have specially colour and pattern coded valves for easy robot finding & twisting :^)
>>53548530
Who needs an army if you have the Hulk?
>>53548532
>I don't know how economics werks: the post
me on the left
They use C++, mercurial, CVS, and python for real time activities like object tracking...
THEY SHOULD BE FIRED NOT SOLD.
>AND they call GNU/LINUX "linux"
Turns out that you can't always buy a company that excels at experimental but non-product oriented research and expect them to crank out products.
>>53548581
They could sell that quadruped thing straight away as an electric horse
I'd probably take out a loan to get one
>>53547918
THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE ROBOTICS WINTER!!
>>53548548
What is your argument here? That the US will somehow magically spawn new jobs? Eventually all farming and manufacture will be done by robots. All service industry will be replaced by robots. The only thing left for humans will ironically be art-related.
>>53547918
because when the oculus is in every household placating the masses they wont need robots to dominate us anymore.
>>53548513
>Then get to work on a machine learning algorithm (or at least explore the possibility of) where it would learn how to turn the thing in a non retarded way.
Have it try over and over again until it figure that shit out, maybe as a starting point a human could guide some movements and then let it loose to learn on its own.
That's a good idea. Nice to see anons that know about ML in g. You may like this paper http://arxiv.org/abs/1602.01783
>>53548532
This is exactly why we need depopulation. I ain't paying for nobody's shit and I am excited to welcome robots into the workforce.
Natural selection at it's best. Technology has been taking jobs from humans throughout the entirety of our history.
>>53548551
You are funny with your language memes.
>>53548623
AI and ROBOTICS is BULLSHIT.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_winter
>"[Investors] were put off by the term 'voice recognition' which, like 'artificial intelligence', is associated with systems that have all too often failed to live up to their promises."
>>53547934
I know Roi. He's a good guy!
>>53548647
Its inhumane. Birth control is a more humane measure. We could have AGI-governed utopia instead.
>>53548648
Had they used real languages just think what could have been accomplished.
>>53548647
>This is exactly why we need depopulation.
Thus guaranteeing extinction.
>>53548675
>They should have used javascript
0/10
>>53548671
>Its inhumane.
bish, that's all a matter of perspective.
>>53548680
>Thus guaranteeing extinction.
You are retarded. Which is exactly why we start with people like you.
>>53548697
hello re.dd.it
just tip my shit up
>>53548675
Listen, you are a walking meme. Language doesn't matter much if it is fast enough. Algorithms and math matter a big deal, that's where BD shines.
>>53548697
>You are retarded. Which is exactly why we start with people like you.
Do you have a job? What makes your job so unique that a robot couldn't do it?
Humans become redundant when robots have all the jobs.
>>53548728
I'm a psychic healer. good luck replacing me cucko.
>>53548724
You don't write software, obviously.
>people like you are also how bad software is written.
>>53548739
Oh god, seriously though.
>>53548724
>Troll says C++ is not a valid language for real-time programming
>>53548728
>Do you have a job? What makes your job so unique that a robot couldn't do it?
Because I actually go the bilderberg meeting and talk about this shit. No way they gonna replace me nigga
>>53547918
>>53548791
"C++ is a horrible language. It's made more horrible by the fact that a lot
of substandard programmers use it, to the point where it's much much
easier to generate total and utter crap with it. Quite frankly, even if
the choice of C were to do *nothing* but keep the C++ programmers out,
that in itself would be a huge reason to use C."
>>53548792
>the bilderberg meeting
So you're like the hippies that discuss possible ways to solve the world's pollution problem but never actually do anything?
It's not like meeting is going to change the path of progress.
>>53548637
By no means do I think this is easy,
I'm just talking about possibly better solutions then what they are doing.
This is what I was talking about the valve before.
if the robot can 'see' the valve handwheel then it can figure out the center, right ?
So instead of trying to grip the wheel with its retarded hand, stick a 'finger' or sorts in the gaps and just make a circle.
i dunno, seems like an easier solution then to try and grab it using the weird cripple hand the robot has.
>>53548791
Holy fuck it is not. You must be delusional.
>C++ is actually just shit with shitheads operating it - much like Java
>>53548813
>It's made more horrible by the fact that a lot of substandard programmers use it
That's why Befunge is one of the best programming languages. No one uses it!
>>53548832
>Holy fuck it is not.
This is why no one will hire you. Go learn COBOL and become more useless to the world.
>>53548689
Yes, if they needed that C style syntax but they could have used and extension architecture like node (making calls to C and assembler).
But you don't know shit about software you Jethro educated fucktard, so stfu.
>>53548832
>Java
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/697916/what-languages-are-used-for-real-time-systems-programming
Meme'd well
>>53548848
>Befunge
>>53548872
>Suggests using node for any serious work
How can someone be this retarded!? Pajeet, is that you?
>>53548887
>The point
>>53548823
what
>>53548861
Go back to greeting customers at the door and leave technology to the experts.
Go play so Cysis and troll /v/ because Windows is not technology.
>Bootstrap and Wordpress does not mean you write software to the rest of you
>>53548906
Says the NEET with no formal experience.
>>53548906
>Go back to greeting customers at the door
So do what you do? I'll pass, that'd be one hell of a demotion.
>>53548898
You do not understand programming.
You think you do but you truly do not.
>This is a serious high quality post.
>>53548915
So far nothing in your posts proves you do more than search stackoverflow for homework assignments.
>>53548932
We can talk when you get some experience under your belt. Tell ya what, I won't make you do the work, I'll go ahead and post it twice.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/697916/what-languages-are-used-for-real-time-systems-programming
I wouldn't want to give you too much exposure to the real world before you're ready. Children take time to grow.
Quality thread.
>>53548800
>>53548953
>search stackoverflow for homework assignments.
Do you bother to read anything? You've proven you don't work in the field by being completely unable to back up your claims. Show me some proof.
>>53547918
Bitch ass robots won't even fight back, they're practically useless for war
>>53548956
You are truly an illiterate loser.
I say this because you think you know it all.
IF you have experience (meaning time) then you are a perfect example of a reason why this industry sucks,
>>53548996
You still have yet to post anything of value. A college student can sit in their dorm room posting all day about the alleged knowledge they have. It is meaningless without any evidence to back it up.
>>53548978
You are plainly wrong.
Deal with it.
Read more.
ANUUUUUUUUUU CHEEKI BREEKI DANKE
>>53549016
I clearly understand that is what you are doing.
>>53549024
You're not even going to try to defend your claim? You're pathetic.
>>53549039
Nope, but you're free to believe we're the same. I won't crush your dreams.
>>53548889
They are using Python.
Javascript at least has Tail Call Optimization now.
>>53549064
Prove yours, your claims are extraordinary and contrary to common notions.
>pompous loser
>>53548474
>They're worried people will freak out thinking that a robot is going to take their job.
Most sane people already know the robots are coming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShC-sGTQDi0
It is just a handful of people who want $15/hr to flip burgers who don't see the writing on the wall.
>>53549079
http://www.amazon.com/Real-Time-Systems-Programming-Languages-International/dp/0321417453
http://www.amazon.com/Real-Time-Efficient-Object-Oriented-Microcontroller-Programming/dp/3642346871
https://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/~burns/papers/c-posix.pdf
You were talking about realtime programming in LISP, that hasn't been done since the 70s.
>Interesting robotics thread devolves into code monkeys flinging their feces at each other thread.
>>53549071
I find it really hard to believe that any of the actual work is done in Python. As for C++ post-compile it's machine code. The only way to beat it would be assembly.
>>53549134
why thew fuck is that blonde hoe walking off with a black chick?
fucking racemixing propaganda
>>53549079
>>53549121
I'll even explain it for you: the major difference between C and C++ is that C++ is object-oriented which makes it easier to program in. Once compiled the language doesn't much matter.
>>53549121
Read about FFI, loser.
Python is about 400 X slower than just about anything.
Lisp is on par with C or assembly but if you use C with it - well it is far more performant than C++ and safer, certainly far better than Python in all ways.
Google uses Lisp too and with calls C.
>God you are fucking dense.
>>53549155
That is not true.
I am trying to help you.
You think you have all this experience.
You think you know more than you actually do.
You write post like a True Salesman not someone who has mastered The Craft.
>>53549135
>hard to believe that any of the actual work is done in Python.
That is why they suck plus they will not work with other divisions in the company.
>They fucking use CVS, after this everything is just commentary
>>53547962
why would google trash the company they want to sell publically.
should have said Google is looking to move in a different direction away from robotics to focus on selling your data to the NSA.
>>53549193
Spoken yet again like someone who can't back up their claims.
I wonder if he has posted any proof. No? Well shit.
>>53549171
>Google uses Lisp too and with calls C.
Where is Google's bipedal robot?
>>53549134
Go back to fapping casuals.
>soon robots will be doing you jobs.
>>53549229
You are missing the point.
I don't care anymore.
Go fuck yourself.
>>53547962
>>53548089
>>53547918
base level research NEED government funding and is NEVER profitble
this type of work needs to be publicly funded by a university, not a private corporation, it will always be dumped because it will never turn a profit in an acceptable timetable
>>53549193
>That is not true
[citation needed]
>>53549171
Google uses tensorflow which is a python wrapper for c++
https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow
>TensorFlow was originally developed by researchers and engineers working on the Google Brain team within Google's Machine Intelligence research organization for the purposes of conducting machine learning and deep neural networks research. The system is general enough to be applicable in a wide variety of other domains, as well.
>>53549241
>Go back to fapping casuals.
What did he mean by this?
>>53549312
You are confusing the companies and the technologies.
C++ sucks. Nobody thinks otherwise or for long.
Languages are NOT the same and if you read books then this would be abundantly evident and then you would not be making these sub-human retarded posts.
>>53549331
go back to /v/
>>53549360
I'm not the anon you were talking too. I'm just wondering if both BD and Google Brain are using C++/Python when where do you get you C/LISP source from?
>>53549282
>C++ is object-oriented which makes it easier to program in.
>Once compiled the language doesn't much matter.
This is a really ignorant post and if you study and actually write software then one day you will know why.
>>53547935
This, to be honest. It's probably largely about image too. Even normal people freak out when Google owns a company like this, and their image is very important with consumers.
>>53549371
>/v/
Get your memes right Plebeian. I'm 100% Anvilcore.
>>53549381
I am not following you threads correctly - it is anonymous.
One of you is obviously more annoying than the other.
I assumed it was one person.
I apologize.
>>53549381
BD uses Python, C++, Mercurial, CVS, shit like that...
Google does too.
Google uses CL/LISP but not with BD
C or Scheme or CL or even JS would be better than C++/Python because you would actually have performant full fledged languages.
These other post are around that...
>>53549171
>on par with C or assembly
C is not on the same level as assembly....
C is at the same level of abstraction as C++ and so is Lisp. There is no difference in compilation aside from the compiler itself.
>>53549539
You can embed assembly in C.
Lisp compiles to machine code.
Like the Python Native Compiler in SBCL and CMU.
C++ is shit when compiled and before.
>Jesus H. Christ how could not know this
>>53549397
>if you study and actually write software then one day you will know why.
What? I study CS and work as a programmer. At work I use various languages, including Javascript, Rust, C# and at uni I use C, C++ and Java.
And from my experience I can say that making larger programs in C++, is much easier than doing it in C while overhead from OOP is insignificant.
Rust, C++, C are all similar when it comes to performance, since they have no GC and are compiled. Languages like Java or C# are somehow close but it's GC shit, require run time etc. Javascript and python are the slowest ones.
>>53549468
>C or Scheme or CL or even JS
....
It's not worth it to debate this with you. You won't provide any proof of what you say and you keep spouting off like your word is gold. The rest of the world disagrees with you.
>>53549573
>I use various languages, including Javascript, Rust, C# and at uni I use C, C++ and Java.
C# is .NET <- right there you know nothing with your poor man's Java.
This is supposed to prove you are EXPERT?
>>53549571
>You can embed assembly in C.
You can do that in C++ as well.
>Lisp compiles to machine code.
Assembly is a different way of representing machine code. Your options are Assembly and Binary. C and C++ ALSO compile to machine code.
>>53549580
You don't program much so it does not make sense. You are a sophomore at best.
You are not the "rest of the world" you are just wrong in thinking all languages are the same and not knowing why other languages exist.
>>53549602
>facepalm
Now I know you are trolling.
>I hope.
>>53549618
You honestly believe a JIT language like JS is acceptable for lower level operations. You've got some learning to do.
>>53549631
"An assembly (or assembler) language,[1] often abbreviated asm, is a low-level programming language for a computer, or other programmable device, in which there is a very strong (generally one-to-one) correspondence between the language and the architecture's machine code instructions."
One in the same.
>>53549598
We don't use .NET in work though.
I've never said I'm an expert, I only have like 1 year of work experience and maybe 4 years of programming as a hobby.
You claimed that I think C similar in performance, but harder to write than C++ because I lack education and experience in writing software. Which is not true at all.
>>53549631
I know you're a CS major, not EE...
>>53549602
They are not the "same level of abstraction"
Macros alone in JS, CL, and Scheme prove that wrong.
C++ OO requires patterns that are found in JS,CL/Lisp or are trivial.
The languages are very different.
>>53549633
You are not reading my post.
Use it as an extension language instead of Python.
>>53549661
The EE at BD do not use C++ they use C.
>>53549681
If you're using an extension language, why wouldn't you just use C++ instead?
>>53549689
They could have just as easily used C++ though. That's my point. If you're going to argue that C is better than C++ in realtime systems you're going to have to prove it. There has been plenty that was built using C++ without issue.
>>53549696
I would use Scheme.
If you _needed_ C like syntax then use JS - because it is very close to Lisp, has macros, and is TCO with newer libwebit versions.
C++ is just not on the same level or in the same ballpark or even that great of a language. The runtime sucks too.
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>>53549721
>C++ is just not on the same level or in the same ballpark or even that great of a language.
"No, it’s not. There seems to be a pervasive assumption that the abstractions of high-level languages make them slower, but this isn’t always true. C++ was designed with high performance in mind. The better abstractions of C++ actually allow idiomatic C++ code to run significantly faster than idiomatic C code."
That being a quote from one of the founders of Ksplice.
>>53549705
People use C++ for tons of shit.
Without issue is not accurate.
Look at the problems with Kernels, specifically early linux, and C++ and those are not even real time.
C++ is not a solution it is just something that happens.
>>53549750
The "No, it's not." is in reference to the question of C being faster than C++.
>>53548166
Japanese, Koreans and Chinese are all chinks
>>53549754
>are not even real time.
This is the other thing that bugs me. Realtime is determined by the operating system unless you're programming firmware. Firmware programming is most commonly done in C++.
>>53549750
IDK why the Ksplice sellout would say that other that to misdirect noob.
Idiomatic is the keyword there.
There is no way C++ can run faster than C.
A C++ programmer maybe can write C++ that is more performant than when they write C but a C programmer writing C is _always_ faster.
>>53548166
Japs do Cars and Audio fammo
>>53549750
>>53549764
>>53549754
-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti and no STL and you can write OOP code that is as fast or faster than C.
>>53549255
Google and Microsoft spend a lot of money on basic research shill
Harvard and other private universities do a lot of basic research shill
>>53549778
BD uses firmware in C.
>>53549783
>C programmer writing C is _always_ faster.
top kek. Call me when C compilers have the same optimizations like C++ compilers do.
Also, just because you're not giving any real evidence of C being faster than C++ here's a video that proves you wrong:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDSvjwJ2M80
>>53549786
Another point STL is enough reason to NOT use C++. Just that alone.
>>53549807
>have not watched the video yet
Think about that for a moment.
>the hard sell for C++ that must be done in embedded
A Runtime is faster, seems very counter intuitive?
>>53548653
>>53549833
The -S option compiles to assembly in g++. That's generally the best option for embedded applications.
>>53549833
>the hard sell for C++ that must be done in embedded
it must be done because of fags like you spreading bullshit, having no knowledge whatsoever about the size and speed of binaries being generated by modern C++ compilers.
I happen to work for a telecom company, writing embedded shit that has to fin on 3KB flash and we still use C++ because thanks to namespaces, overloads and OOP it's just easier for us to produce better and safer software.
>>53549855
This is just the Java argument.
Write "idiomatic code" and the Libraries will do the right thing.
Who you calling fag?
You work for a telecom company and don't use Erlang...
>how can a C++ programmer call anyone a fag
All C++ programmers, especially embedded, are just worse Java programmers with lower salaries too!
All you embedded programmers are either unemployed or earning anemic salaries. Angular "programmers" earn more than you foolios.
Considerably less money for the "same Job" is no way to live.
Face it you are the "women" of the programming world.
>>53549891
>Not making an actual argument
>Sidesteps to quality of average programmer for programming language
That's like saying HTML5 is shit because of the graphic designers that use it. It's not a real argument.
>>53548637
Thanks for the link. Incredible the amount of information we have access to these days
Because Boston Dynamics is a meme company
>>53548244
>>kinect instead of LIDAR
Team Nimbro rescue's bot had like 10 kinect type sensors on it so they could do that. See the head? All kinects.
But they did not do it in the actual competition, maybe because of the bandwidth limitations
>>53548166
Not being weeb, but I always thought Japan was master race asians. Koreans are trying to be Japan-lite. Chinese are soulless cheapos at everything they do. There just happens to be a lot of them.
>>53547954
THIS
>>53549783
>>There is no way C++ can run faster than C
>>C programmer writing C is _always_ faster
>non-trivial C code compiled with Tiny C Compiler
>similar C++ code compiled with GCC
Guess which will be faster?
The difference in performance between C++ and C depends on compiler. Modern C++ compiles have optimizations designed for C++ so some code can actually be faster when made in modern C++ techniques than similar C code.
Also larger code that requires some abstraction and high level stuff, will usually be more readable and shorter in C++.
>>53549820
What? But you know, you don't need to use STL.
If someone made templates extension for C compiler, would you stop using C because there is some optional feature?
Boston dynamics refused to work with google's other companies. BD won't use anything other than hydraulics, google's other company made this obsolete
>>53548166
Some of the top manufacturers of industrial robots are in japan. FANUC and Yasakawa(motoman) are pretty big players. There's also epson, denso, kawasaki, mitsubishi, etc.
Name a korean company that makes industrial robots.
Damn japs decided they were gonna monopolize the robotics industry way back, so the government got in bed with those big companies to help make that happen.
Fucking Zaibatsu assholes. Koreans are trying to do this too, and they'll probably be pretty good at it.
How the fuck can US companies compete with this.
>>53550116
It doesn't fucking matter who the goddamn master race asians are. Most of these goddamn eastern nations do this shitty thing where they hand out free money to companies just so they can develop their industries.
The US doesn't do this and it's not fucking fair.
>>53547954
You can't beat American software
>>53550233
>tfw all core OSes are American
>>53550189
> Most of these goddamn eastern nations do this shitty thing where they hand out free money to companies just so they can develop their industries.
>The US doesn't do this and it's not fucking fair.
Yes they do dummy, what do you think DARPA is?
What do you think NASA actually does?
Just because YOU aren't getting the money, doesn't mean it's non-existant.
>>53550189
>American capitalist pig
>mad about not being able to win or even compete.
Plus they do. US invests a lot of money in gov agencies and private companies. Some of this money goes into the development of all types of shit.
>>53549891
Cool argument you got there friend.
>>53550189
you ever heard of lockheed martin?
>>53548668
Roi - return of investment incase you didnt know retard
>>53551332
wow looks like this guy doesnt have the old funny bone
>generate hype
>sell division
>Rake in profits
Combine this with Google's internal robotics division and ethics difference, Google probably wants to get rid of it.
>ethics difference
Military robot would go down the lane of "do no evil" part much more closely than simply collecting your personal information for selling ads.
>>53548647
Uh huh, depopulation. And who decides this? The Chinese had a policy in place for decades to stop population growth and they just had to rescind it because it was causing so many social problems. If an autocratic society with a population instilled to obey authority can't manage it, how would anyone else?
And populations already declining in the West, here's the elephant in the living room; affluent, educated, well trained, and non-superstitious people reproduce the least and poor religious people reproduce the most.
So at best depopulation results in a Mad Max world of Mormons, Sunni muslims, Amish, and Haredi jews. Truly utopia
>>53548697
>snorts cheetos, haha, stupid fucking wageKEK, I with my NEETbux am safe from the robotic revolution! Because what's truly indispensable for society is an obese man who makes 20 posts a day on 4chan and reddit about his Arch Linux install on his Thinkpad T410
>>53548653
Why didn't you put the context with the quote, they're right next to one another in the article?
>Alex Castro, quoted in The Economist, 7 June 2007: "[Investors] were put off by the term 'voice recognition' which, like 'artificial intelligence', is associated with systems that have all too often failed to live up to their promises."[34]
>2007
>9 years ago.
>When the first iPhone was introduced.
>Android didn't exist.
Have you been asleep for ten years, grandad?
I wrote most of my my master thesis by dictating on my phone. On the bus. And I'm not a native speaker. Transcript 95% accurate.
A shitty $70 phone can pick up a voice with a foreign accent, amidst the background noise of a bus, and get it right.
>voice recognition is dead
Top fucking kek. And Internet is a fad for kids?
>>53549255
this is actually one of the arguments in favor of a monopoly.
look what Bell's R&D brought us.
>>53551637
>And Internet is a fad for kids?
well.. sorta
>>53553529
>Bell's R&D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Labs#Notable_Alumni
Really impressive, actually.
>>53548368
This, google is basically a government body, its just being moved to another one.
>>53548675
Funny coming from the guy who uses the second most meme language in existence right after Haskell.
>>53548375
lmao /thread
the abuse robots for memes
>>53549792
>>53553529
don't make threads crying after researchers are fired and research is left abandoned behind a copyright wall
>>53553529
>Bell's R&D
It lost a shit ton lot of money
>>53554671
That's what R&D is for, you dingus.
Bell didn't budget R&D for a profit.
>>53547954
Chinese robotics industry? Even Japan doesn't have anything that can compete with Boston Dynamics, I doubt China does.
>>53554823
Didn't BD lose to Korea in the DARPA robotics challange? I think they're mostly good at making youtube videos
>>53554868
>I think they're mostly good at making youtube videos
yeah well call me when the nips have robots doing the kind of stuff atlas 2.0 does in their latest one.
>>53550257
Define core OS.
Linux is from Finland or some shit.
OpenBSD, the hardest OS known to man, is from Canada, which is technically "American," but not the way your stupid ass meant it.
>>53554928
Call me when Americans have robots that are winning DARPA's challenges.
>>53547935
>>53549403
this. There's no way they'll actually throw away Boston Dynamics.
Google will literally build a robot army behind curtains and come out with a scarily advanced commercial product in 5-10 years.
>>53554712
>Bell didn't budget R&D for a profit.
that's the reason base level R&D is unsustainable with private funding
private R&D is for more specific research
>>53547918
Because you touch yourself at night
>>53551332
Found the autist
>>53547918
They didn't build the terminator in time for the deadline
>>53555950
not if you have a monopoly, which was my point.
>>53547918
Because the US government was threatening to kill off Alphabet and Google in an anti-trust case unless they sold or shuttered it because the advancements in robotics played against the message needed to maintain the status quo.
>>53547918
money pit
>>53555038
Making it roll on the ground, knocking things out of the way was cheating. It defeated the whole purpose of the competition.
Why do chinks and poo in loos say "performant?" It's not a word and is three times as long to say as "fast."
Fucking good way to blow an interview there guys.
>>53547935
>>53549403
Are you retarded? They've owned this company for a while, everyone already knows they own an AI robot corporation. This has nothing to do with their already established Terminator image.
>>53558846
why not?
