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-- PLEASE USE THIS FORM TO GET PURCHASE ADVICE --
>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM

Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.
Isolation ≠ Noise cancellation

>For the newfags that keep replying to the "Belgian shitposter"
http://pastebin.com/rhEPFtRj

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

Previous Thread: >>53495276
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Just did pic related to my MDR-V6s

What are my options for a thick and durable male > male audio cable? My price range is flexible, around $10

Not looking to go full placebophile, I just want a nice cable that will last
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>>53512257
Forgot the image
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>>53512276
Cool, was it hard to mod it?
Also, V-moda cables, those things are made to last and have a 1 year warranty.
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>>53512153
>.I will tell u, should u decide to buy, that u must let these phones have at least 100 hours of burn in so that the drivers relax, and until this is accompished these cans will sound BRIGHT and without a lot of bass extention, but as the drivers begin to relax, then the glorius sound they provide just gets better and better.
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Hey /g/, looking to buy a pair of in-ear headphones just for day to day use.

>Budget
About $100 AUD, can be a bit more if needed.

>Location
Australia

>Music type
Pretty much everything, but mostly rap.

If anybody could please suggest something that would be great. I was looking at a pair of sennheiser momentum in ears, as they are about my price range and I can just walk into a store and get them, and reviews say they're the best for me.

Thanks
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>>53512722
Don't read reviews for crying out loud. Look at measurements.
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>>53512333
Thanks, I'll check those out.

The mod is fairly easy, as long as you get a headphone jack small enough to fit in the existing cable hole. After that it's just 3 wires to solder and you're done.
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>>53512746
I don't know what to interpret in the measurements. I just assumed reviews took these measurements into a count.
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>>53512798
To interpret the measurement just look for something flat like a HD600 and with low THD so you can EQ with it without drawbacks.
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>>53512780
Interesting, i've always wanted to do this mod to my v6 so it's more portable, but i'm afraid i'd fuck it up.
What happened to the coiled cable by the way?
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best
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>>53512722
Bump
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>>53512333
>>53512276
this. I use a v-moda cable on my mad dog. thin and flexible but still very durable and without a huge male end so it can get into portable players and doesn't stick out too far. also 45 degree angle is best angle.
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>>53513146
My coiled cable was broken, which is why I did the mod in the first place.
If yours isn't, you can just put another 3.5mm connector on the cut off end to keep using it
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Are the xpt100's still the most recommended phones in here? Anything new that can challenge them?
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>>53513507
Pro 80s if you're looking for a more V-shaped sound sig, I suppose.
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r8 my waifu and haedphones
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>>53513507
I think the m40x sounds better and it's semi-portable. xpt-100 is more comfortable though.
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Good evening /hpg/, so, what are you guys listening to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syreby0P5Mg
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DT880 or Philips X2
Source Fiio E10K
Genre: Electronic, Metal, Rock
Currently have DT770
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>>53514549
>Currently have DT770
Do you want something similar but better? DT880.
Do you want something better, but with a different sound? X2.
DT880 has the same kind of v-shape as the DT770, but much closer to neutral, X2 has a much darker signature.
Pic your poison.
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>>53513953
Great girl stuck in a godawful show

>>53514108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88_aes7LpUY
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>>53514549
>Philips X2
Wish Massdrop would hurry up and get these memes in again.
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>>53514549
X2 personally. dt880 has good bass extension for what it is but there is no denying it's a bright headphone overall. and to me that's a no-no for that kind of music.
and if I wanted something lighter on the bass I would get a k7xx over the dt880, maybe even an hd600 or 650.
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>>53514751
>waifu is a sand nigger
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>>53514972
Delicious chocolate, senpai.
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>>53514998
Can I ask for sauce?
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>Budget
$400
>Location
Aus
>Source
Magni/Modi 2
>Preferred type of headphone
Circumaural
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
8/10
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral, not bright.
>Past headphones
Meme50x w/ pic related
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>>53515349
You know what you want. You want dat Mudheiser that's warm.
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>>53515349
HE 400i
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>>53515324
装甲悪鬼村正
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>>53515349
hd600 or he400i
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Sup guys, new to this so sorry if i dont use the normal template if you guys have that. I have a 50 dollar giftcard to Amazon so im looking for some headphones obv. Daily use with comfort being my biggest need. Any suggestions? I guess for budget, 100 dollars will do.
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>>53515823
NVX XPT100
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>>53515823
K240
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>>53515823
I should also mention i would probably use them while i play some games on my computer if that makes a difference.
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What is the highest price/performance point before getting into the range of insane audiophilism?
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>>53515939
$16
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>>53512257
>>53512276
Damn he's been looking for 4 years
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>>53515939
HD600 is endgame. Ety MK5 is early endgame. EQ'd Piston 3 / HJE120 is endgame too but only if you learn what HD600 sounds off by heart.
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>>53512257
Thick is annoying, trust me (considering buying thinner HD800 cables, stock ones are so thick and heavy). Get the V-Moda cable, it's solid.
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>>53512257
>>53512276
>>53515955
Woopsie forgot link
http://www.head-fi.org/t/641749/mdr-v6-detachable-cable-mod-need-cable-recommendations
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>>53515939
About $300 for full sized opens.
$250 for full sized closed.
$200+/-50 for IEMs.
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>>53515939
In my opinion it's a bit of an exponential curve. You gain in quality on a pretty steady pace from basic models like the Koss Portapro you gain a lot moving to the sub to mid $100 like with the AKG240, Takstar Pro80, Grado SR60e. Then improvements get a bit more expensive. The jump to the $200-300 range provides a few more improvements but they are less obvious and more nuanced. This is about the break even point before price-performance ratio starts climbing. For most it tops with the HD600/650, HE400i, etc. because from there on the increase quality becomes far less dramatic and far more expensive.
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k550 is the most visually pleasing headphone.
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>>53514108
your albums look like a knock-off coke bottle in the thumbnail.
it's a nice album doe.
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>>53516026
That's not Abyss.
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>>53516099
>Abyss
Straight up unattractive. I'm sure it feels and sounds wonderful
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>>53515965
>>53515981
>>53515997
What would you say would be in the best price/performance ratio category for open, closed, and IEMs?
I'm just asking, discussing different things. I have a pair of x2's and am pretty happy with them.
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>>53516220
IEMs - $100-200
Closed - $200-300
Open - $300-400
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>>53516220
That's subjective.
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>>53516163
>I'm sure it feels and sounds wonderful
You would be surprised.
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>>53516163
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/JPSLabsAbyssAB1266.pdf
looks like it sounds like shit. and it looks heavy so i wouldn't think it would feel good either
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HE-1 is the best open head-phone, buck for buck.
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Does anyone know why there are so many anime pictures of high end headphones? Is it how they're marketing in japan, or is it just because japanese animators and mangaka try using exotic headphones for reference to make the fashion more interesting?
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>>53516508
jap illustrators, neets/hikkis/otaku alike tend to use headphones because
1. they can't afford speakers
2. they live with others or have paper-thin walls
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>>53516534
So you're saying that people draw them just because they're enthusiasts? The otaku market must be huge.
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>>53516546
considering the amount of time they spend in front of the computer it's no surprise they're going to be drawn to peripherals as hobbies. mech keyboards, headphones, etc
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>>53516556
Personally I just like the sound from nice headphones better than pretty much anything else. My mouse and keyboard are shoddy as fuck.
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What are the best headphones for around 20-50$ considering i listen to pretty much everything.
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Please help a brother out!

>Budget : upto 9k inr
>Location : India (buying from Amazon India or Flipkart.com)
>Source : pc and Android
>Preferred type of headphones : an over the ear
>Open or closed : closed
>Comfort level : I'm willing to sacrifice quality for comfort
>Preferred music : mostly chill stuff. Some edm, some hip hop. I'd like good bass.

Thanks in advance
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>>53516998
Takstar Pro80(closed version)/Hi2050(open version), Superlux HD-681, kinda depending where you live and what's available to you.
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>tfw my shp9500's sound better than my dt770's

It's a cruel world desu senpai
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>>53517186
I hope you're getting paid well to shill takstar pro80's. You shit up every thread
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I've got a 5.1 system hooked onto my computer (speakers to sub, sub to motherboard). I'd like to plug in headphone and mic to the motherboard as well, not the front jacks.
Is there good 3rd party software on windows that takes into account the realtek HD audio drivers and the included windows audio settings to easily switch between headphone and 5.1 speakers without plugging out the cables?
I'm having a weird issue where the rear speakers half work when I plug in my headphones and have to change a bunch of settings to get the rear speakers working fully again.
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>>53517048
Designated shitting phones
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>>53512722
>>53513210
Ety MK5 but it's loathed by the anons who haven't tried it or disliked them because they whine about the comfort
Hifiman RE-400 with distant vocals
Or nigger boomy bass SE215.

>>53517048
SRH440, M40X. But both seem to have small pads. M40X seems to be the higher regarded /hpg/ headphone in that price range. SRH440 is a Sony V6/7506 alternative without the treble but a bit more bass.
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>>53517048
Save up for MSR7. It is worth it.
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>>53517244
Are they really so shit? What other headphones would you recommend for sub-50$ pricepoint, as far as full-sized cans go?
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>>53516998
Creative Aurvana Live 1. I'm >>53517318 and I'm kinda good at recommending stuff.
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>>53517318
>>53517344
Thanks so much! Should I consider saving for the msr7? Asking price is almost double the srh440 or m40x. I'll probably be using these throughout University (I'll be heading off in two months).
Is it really worth the upgrade?
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Best headphones under $500

search no further, you will for sure need a nice amp though
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guys its worth to upgrade from dt 990 pro too philips x2?
i will play it on my phone, and on my Pc from the creative card HD or whatever is called
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>>53517508
Definitely. Thanks for the (You)'s. I've heard the MSR7 with other crappy headphones. Like Sennheiser Momentum Overears which sounded not bad but a waste of money and the crappy M50X and the bit better HyperX Cloud (Pro 80).

MSR7's are def worth it. They sound very crisp way better than bassy MDR-1A or the overpriced MDR-Z7. MSR7>Z7.
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>>53515939
Something around 300e/dollarinos for headphones. Depends on what are you looking for. Price is a rather irrelevant spec in headphone performance. Audio gear doesn't really scale well with it.

>>53516220
Price/performance...

IEMs about 30e
Closed about 100e
Open about 120e

As for point of highly diminishing returns:

IEMs 60e
Closed 200e
Open 300e

This is still dependent on what you want. These prices would be my picks based on my preferences.

>>53517516
Nah and they don't need much of an amp.
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>>53517494
>20-50$ ...
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>>53517534
Alright then, I'll go for one of them. Thanks again and have a great day anon!
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>>53517564
http://www.amazon.com/Creative-EF0060-Aurvana-Live-Headphones/dp/B000ZJZ7OA/

A tiny bit over. Is that the end of the world?
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>>53517560
>Nah and they don't need much of an amp.
wrong and wrong

with a proper amp I prefer the HD650 to the HD800, ymmv
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>>53517233
>tried classmates DT770's
>sounds closed af and not all that comfortable as people praise them to be
>he tried my SHP's
>said sound quality on SHP is not as good as his DT
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>>53517632
Nice amp scaling meme. They are a bit insensitive, that's about it.
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>>53517634
I find myself using the shp9550's so much more. They're hands down the most comfortable pair of headphones I've used. But yeah, the dt have a really big bass boost when I was doing a comparison earlier. It feels closed/forced (hard to explain) and realllllly sharper treble. And the shp9500 just honestly sounds like music is supposed to. There really isn't any defining characteristic I can think of that makes me get such a boner for them and I think that's the good thing. They just sound good. I use them with the fiio e10k and since they lack in the sub bass area, I sometimes flip the bass switch on for different genres of music.
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>>53517634
Things like this is literally why audio related reviews are so fucking retarded. Everyone's taste is different.
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Help, I fell for the "just mod a mic on it" meme and my PC only got one jack port.
Am I condemned to usean usb adapter or are there jack ones?
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>>53517583
Yes because in my country they are 80$.
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>>53517730
What about the Takstar that other anon was recommending?

I tried the HyperX Cloud. But I didn't like them. The MSR7's were the closest sounding headphones compared to a HD600/HD800.
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>>53517748
Nobody sells them.
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>>53517518
Get an amp for your phone. A good mobo will easily power the 990 premium, idk about pro may need amp
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>>53512672
Buy a pair of decent heqdphones
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I have the first geb senn momentum over ear. Im considering msr7 how much of an upgrade us it compared to my current headphones?
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>>53517777
Nobody?I even got quads
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Does anyone have experience using the HD 800 with an O2 amplifier?
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>>53518270
Werks, I have it.
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>>53518300
Have you tried it with better amplifiers and does it sound better or is it all memes?
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>>53518270
O2 and Magni 2 drives everything but electrostats.

>>53518312
There is no "better sound" in amplifiers. A good amplifier (O2) should do what it's meant to, amplify, not colour sound (tube amps).
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>>53518252
I recall the Momentum Overears sounded good. But something was off putting about them. I'll have to go back next week to the same headphone store to demo them again. Momentum is definitely worser sounding than the MSR7. I think it was because of the tiny pads.

I tried the Momentum On-ears too. Total poop. Even worse than M50X.
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>>53517516
No, they're low-fi overpriced coloured garbage compared to the HD600, which is the best open heapdhone in production now and delivers a truly natural and neutral listening experience. Besides, HD650 needs an amp, whereas the HD600 sounds amazing even from a Nokia 3310.
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>>53518270
Why getting a HD800, when you can get the superior HD600 for a third of its price?
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>>53516287
Agree

>>53517560
> highly diminishing return for open headphones
> 300e
The Q701/K702 go for less than 200e.
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>>53518312
No, I haven't tried it with anything better but I have tried with it other amplifiers which cost ten times as much as the O2. No difference in sound other than some were noisy and O2 is not. I use O2 with 1x gain when plugged into my ODAC and that gives me 2 Vrms from the output, plenty enough for HD 800.
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>>53517719
are we talking PC or laptop?
I can't imagine a PC having a speaker jack but no microphone jack. Some laptops on the other hand have only one jack which acts as a combo port. If it's the latter get pic related.
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>>53518401
>The Q701/K702 go for less than 200e.
HD 558 is better and cheaper, I was thinking of HD 600. Sorry pal.
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>>53518409
It's a laptop and thank you, I've found many things looking like that but that only divide an audio jack in two
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>>53516026
>k550
>not k553
the k553 is total improvement over the k550
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>>53518255
What do you guys think about 668B?
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>>53518418
The HD 558 is shit and veiled.
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>>53514108
>Reise Reise
Nice.
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>>53518418
> veil is better than clarity
Come one dude....
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Does anybody in /hpg/ have both HD600 and Equalized Piston 3 could please confirm that they both sound alike or close? What about HJE120/HD600 owners then?
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>>53518751
Stop being paranoid, noone wants anything to sound like the HD600. Whatever you have surely sounds better.
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>>53518751
>or close?
Aside from being inserted in the ear canal entrance, equalized pair of any pair of headphones vs in-ears will sound very similar. This depends entirely on the EQ however and by ear it's really hard to get two headphones to match with an equalizer, especially if it's in-ear vs over ear. Open over-ear headphone will sound a bit different even if the magnitude response is the same but it's certainly possible that they'll be really close to each other.

I wouldn't put any emphasis on people's subjective impressions.
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>>53518532
Please RESPOND
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>>53518751
No one here has sennheisers here they are just a shitty meme
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>Budget
$100
>Location
Australia
>Source
Computer (no sound card/interface), phone, electric guitar amplifier (if possible, not too worried about this)
>Type
Full-sized preferred
>open/closed
I don't mind either
>comfort
Super comfy please
>preferred music
Heavy metal, European folk, Ween
>past headphones
Only ever used shitty $10 IEMs from my local shop

Somewhat want something suitable for horror games too for that immersion.

Thanks anons
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>>53518532
Pretty gud, get them and some AKG K240 velour pads to go with them for max comfy
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>>53519495
Are you sure because i really don't want to regret it.
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>>53519600
You really don't have other options in that pricepoint, not to mention that only downside I can think of would be that they feel light and kinda cheap and aren't exactly the toughest of headphones. Try googling out reviews and try to figure it out for yourself instead of trusting random stranger on north-korean shadow figure forum if you're so unsure about them.
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>>53519638
The thing with reviews is that every review is completely different.Some say they have nice bass while other say that they have no bass at all etc.Also by light did you meant lightweight because 681 evo were way too heavy and small for me.
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Did anyone try out the Xiaomi Hybrids yet?
I own the Piston 1, 2 and 3 andthey pretty much always improved the sound.
Is this one just as good as P3?
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just ordered a pair of Beyerdynamic 350m for 50€ to replace my old technics as they weren't as portable.

Did I fuck up?
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>>53519856
frequency says more bass, more treble & overall worse
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>>53512153

Hello
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Sennheiser HD800S or STAX L-700?
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>>53520001
you are wasting big money on those, just get hd600
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>>53520001
HD 800, L700 looks poop.
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>>53512153
What are people thoughts on the Peace UI for apo equalizer?. I just had a quick look and it seems decent but the bass boost option seems to make it sound too muffled, is it worth using Peace just for the simple sliders alone and maybe tweaking it to my own preference?

Cheers.
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>>53520409
The simple sliders are worthless. Use variable EQ
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>>53520380
the L700 would need a dedicated amp as well. A better buy for their price would be a used SR007 Mk1.

>>53520380
Bad seal.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7_edge-review-1409p8.php

And it actually doesn't hiss with my SE535s. Dead silent.
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>>53519487
K240
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>>53514751
>Moodie Black - White Buffalo
Not sure how i feel about this, for a second there i thought there was something wrong with my headphones.
>>53516058
>ftw i preffer Pepsi
>>53518549
Best part is that they are comming to my country in September, already saving for the ticket.
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>>53520498
o-ok :(
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>>53521980
which is the best headphone in this pic AFTER eq? You do use EQ right?
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>>53522329
Sorry Anon, never felt the need to use EQ for my headphones except for a cheap phillips iem that i use at the gym.
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>>53520001
Why consider the 800S?

>>53520380
Looks like the usual Stax Lambda

>>53521216
I really don't like the 007.
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>>53522414
so you just wasted hundreds instead of EQing, just like Zeos but on a smaller scale.
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>>53522723
Two for production, one for on-stage monitoring, one for traveling, one for home use.
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Looking for iems around 100eurupees. Are the shure se215 still g's recommendation?
>preferred music
Metal blues or sometimes some hip hop beats like this http://radiojuicy.net/radio-juicy-vol-153-monnema-dreck-by-funkypus/
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>>53514108
J.S.
I AM KIDDING
I'M JUST KIDDING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZLqCHKfX54
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>>53522780
>those headphones
>production
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>>53522863
ok.
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>budget
$35
>location
United States
>source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
no preference
>Comfort level
5/10 (i realize my budget limitations)
>Preferred tonal balance
I am not an audiophile
>skipped
>Past headphones
Tek Republic TH Pro Virtual 7.1 Surround Sound ($35.00)

I'm just looking for a decent headset to play games on steam with my friends. The Tek Republic headset had terrible sound quality and it broke after only 6 months. I don't want surround sound. I would prefer 2 decent speakers over several smaller crap speakers.

Again, I am not an audiophile. I realize the limitations of my budget.
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>>53523094
Superlux HD681.
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>>53523135
>no microphone
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>>53523094
lol'd at that filename
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I'm in the market for some new headphones. I used to have a pair of Grado sr60i that gave out after 3 years of intensive use. I've been using some 25 euro philips on ear set as replacement for more than a year now and I need to step it up.

I could spend upwards to 300 euro for them, but I'm really looking to spend somewhere in between 150-200 euro.

They'll mostly be used while commuting by train, but I won't be needing NC since I live in a part of europe that has decent tracks.

I do prefer closed back so that no one can listen along.

I'll just be using my phone to drive them, so no studio monitors that require additional power.
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>>53523179
just get out.

>>>/v/
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>>53523179
Superlux HD681 + Zalman Zm Mic 1.
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>>53523259
Dt770 you won't hear the mom with crying baby sitting next to you.
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>>53523355
>beyershill
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>>53523355
I'm sure, but 80 ohms seems pretty tough. Are you sure no amps are needed?
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>>53522794
I appreciate some suggestions with cleaner highs
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>>53523376
Shills? I payed 100€ for them that's a awesome price performance ratio imo not beaten by any closed cans ar that range. Would be surprised if you can proof me wrong.
>>53523435
I've got the 250 ohm and a player that powers up to 300 ohm cans - volume is always set at 60/100. 80 ohm shouldn't be a problem for phones.
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>>53523135
>>53523354
>he's not an audiophile
>clearly looking for an all-in-one headset for gaming

>recommend to him studio headphones only an audiophile would appreciate.

>>53523094
This is what you're looking for
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDRXB400IP-AP-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B00B8MIVXC/ref=sr_1_2?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1458156262&sr=1-2&keywords=mic&refinements=p_36%3A1253546011
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Can /hpg/ help me understand amps? I understand that amps just "amplifies" the sound, and helps drive headphones that have a high ohm impedance. What I don't understand is that with some low impedance cans, people say that when connected to an amp, their music sounds better. Why is that?
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>>53523631
>HD681
>Audiophile
even your shitposting is bad.
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Anyone got a shitty Asus DGX soundcard like me? If so, canyou help me set it up for a dt770 pro80?

I've got it on the exciter mode and on hi-fi with 2 channels, I mostly use it to watch movies. pls help I am retarded
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>>53523680
>"Musical Instruments : Studio Recording Equipment"
>no microphone when he clearly wants one
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>>53523831
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>>53523873
>ridicules gamer headsets
>still insisting his recommendation wasn't audiophile
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>>53523873
>I don't want surround sound. I would prefer 2 decent speakers over several smaller crap speakers.
>I'm just looking for a decent headset to play games on steam with my friends
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>>53523900
>>53523921
(you)
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>>53523900
>gamer headsets
>at all
>thinks headphones, audiophile or not, is bad because it has no mic
Back to >>>/v/
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>>53517233
>tfw finding the dt990's signature better than both dt880 and dt770.
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>>53523962
>I'm just looking for a decent headset
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>>53523962
lol, the kid is clearly looking for a headset and you recommended to him that he purchase headphones that are not a headset solely to impose your autistic standards upon someone who doesn't share your audiophile interests.

Are you really this fucking autistic?
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>>53523999
nice trips
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>>53523999
>>53524044
>/hpg/ - Headphone General
>Headphone

It's not our fault you can't read.
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>>53524086
headsets are a genre of headphone
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>>53524086
In all fairness, if anyone where to attempt to create a 'Headset General', you would shitpost it into oblivion until the person trying to create the general gave up.

Also, anyone who creates a headset thread on /v/ would get b& for off topic. Where are people who are interested in discussing gaming headsets supposed to discuss headsets on 4chan?
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>Budget
$30CDN hard limit
>Location
Canada
>Source
iPhone 5C mostly
>Comfort
will be using them a lot so comfort is important, but not more important than decent quality
>Type
In ear
>Tonal balance
flat is good, but I am not against boosted lows at all.
>Other thoughts
I mostly just want something that will last me at least a year. Preferably longer. if it comes in a case I can reuse for safe storage that's a plus. If the parts are replacable/servicable that's a plus.
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>>53524173
piston 3
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I'd like your advice on what new headphones to get. I'll try to stick to the rules:

>90€ (could be a bit higher if reasonable for the result)
>Germany
>Analog Mixer (reloop RMX-40USB)
>just no IEM (that means in-ear, right?)
>closed preffered (i'm just not sure what difference it makes)
>higher comfort level
>neutral
>mainly EDM (no, thats not everything but thats what they have to go through mostly.) especcially tech house
>i had quite a few discounter headphones such as PHILLIPS SHL3156 but my favorites are the KOSS Porta Pro. I liked how portable they were with such a good sound but i have to solder a new jack onto them cause i wore them like all day and the cable breaks every few month

would be great if you had some suggestions.
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>>53524103
>>53524161
And you're going to be redirected to >>53523873
Trust me, I'm trying to help you here. These guys argue over the 3 same headphone for years (some $300-400 headphone by Beyer, Sennheiser, and AKG). They will tell you to buy a separate mic and ghetto Velcro it to your new headphones.
/g/ hates headsets for some reason You might can slide with a new /g/ topic since the moderation is shitty here. I can't help you, I've only had TurtleBeaches, and that was years ago.
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>>53524200
Might wanna check out a used pair of shp9500.
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>>53524198
sorry for being a noob but how do I tell the real from the fakes?
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>>53524200
AKG K240 or SHP9500, unless you absolutely need closed, open is better
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>>53522794
>>53523444
Bumperino
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>>53524161
this thread is basically /mkg/ for audiophiles and you're asking them to recommend a decent rubber dome keyboard. from their perspective, you might as well be asking them how to find a magic unicorn. they truly believe there is no such thing as a decent headset, because headsets do not meet their audiophile standards.
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>>53522794
Piston 3.
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>>53523631
>>clearly looking for an all-in-one headset for gaming
I wonder if there is a reason why it is stated up front in the OP:
>Headset requests are frowned upon.
Surely it is simply elitism or snobbishness and not anything like pic related.
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>>53524231
those at least look quite nice. thanks for the advice.
looks just like many people take the advice from /hpg/ and combine good headphones with a cheap mic to get the functionality of a headset
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Koss PortaPro or PX-100-II or a Beyerdynamic (like the DTX501p)?

I need something open, cheap and lightweight for office use. I stream music from my self hosted Subsonic. Mainly noisy stuff (hc punk, grindcore, noise rock, post hardcore) but also soul jazz, jazz fusion.
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>>53512153
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>>53524297
>they truly believe there is no such thing as a decent headset
Bullshit. The Hyper Cloud X is not an uncommon recommendation here but that's because it is a repackaged Takstar Pro80 without an gamer tax tacked on. We still suggest getting the Takstar and the microphone separate because it halves the failure rates and is still a bit cheaper.
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>>53523526
Ok then, I ordered a pair, I will report in tomorrow after testing. God bless 24h delivery.
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>>53524267
>>53524231
both have an interchangeable cable (that's a point that i can judge as i don't have a clue on what to look out for)
could you tell me the up and downsides of each? I'm really looking to get into this topic for better results.
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>>53524339
[spoiler]Despera never ; _ ; [/spoiler]
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>>53524103
>Headset requests are frowned upon.
>>53524218
>for some reason
Because it costs way too much for the quality delivered, headsets are just a bad headphone attached to shitty mic. For the same price you can get both, a headphone that sounds better and a mic that doesn't suck so hard.

The whole point of headsets is having a headphone attached to a mic, so what's wrong with buying them separated for less and doing it yourself while also getting a better product?

Fucking newfags assuming everything os hate without a reason...
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>>53524333
If I remember correctly, the shp9500 has a detachable cable, so you could use the V-MODA boompro mic and save a cable. Though I don't know how the audio quality is.
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>>53524303
From a 'quality of thread' perspective, wouldn't it make more sense for us to just have a generic list of headset recommendations we could rubber stamp to get rid of these people? Ridiculing them only makes them reply 3-4 times each in self defense and all we'd have to do is just substitute the 'frowned upon' sentence in the Op for a "if your looking for a gaming headset..." pastebin". Then suddenly the quality of our general would improve dramatically
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>>53524429
>From a 'quality of thread' perspective
From a quality of posting perspective you're an apologistic idiot.

I'd rather provide substantive help rather than appease idiocy, ie. provide an ugly truth than a pretty lie.

>Ridiculing them
I'm not ridiculing them nor suggesting anyone ridicule them but this is 4chan. You're free to advocate "rising above it" but I've long since learned such is a waste of time.
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>>53524429
they want to ridicule gamers.
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>>53524388
They are a classic you won't regret it.
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>>53524302
Yeah no
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>>53524421
This. It's such a simple explanation, why would people have trouble with it...
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>>53524458
You'd rather impose your audiophile preference. Kids looking for gaming headsets don't give a flying fuck about sound quality. They're just looking for an all-in-one that won't break.

Rather than give them what they want to prevent them from derailing the thread, you'd rather establish that you're better than them for reasons. Your motives are egotistical.
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>>53524566
>You'd rather impose your audiophile preference
I'd rather impose a _sensible_ preference. You may want to write that off as hate or "audiophile" but that is your failing not anyone else's.

>Kids looking for gaming headsets don't give a flying fuck about sound quality.
Are you suggesting anyone else should cater or empower such lack of sense rather than impart knowledge or information that they might be ignorant of?
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>>53524245

You lick them. The real ones taste like lead. The fake ones taste like rubber.
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>>53524566
This. I'm really getting sick and tired of this thread always turning into a "headsets suck" thread.
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>>53524609
>Are you suggesting anyone else should cater or empower such lack of sense rather than impart knowledge or information that they might be ignorant of?

Yes. Just give them what they want so they'll leave.
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>>53524200
MDR-7056 if you want closed. It's useful if you want isolation from outside noise.

HD 518 if open but get the HD 558 instead if you can afford it as it is all around better.

>>53524269
>cleaner highs
Can you live with Etymotic comfort? If so, Etymotic MK5. You don't really get clean highs from cheaper in-ears aside from Etys. ATH-IM70 would be worth considering as it is fairly balanced but most in-ears are very bassy. The SE215 is one of those.

>>53524303
>Headset requests are frowned upon.
That's dumb, honestly. There's just a lack of documented performance in headsets. Those "shitty retard gaming headsets" images are cringy as fuck even if there is a point hidden in them.

>Fucking newfags assuming everything os hate without a reason...
I don't think anyone thinks that and there's a more effective way to handle posts asking for something which we don't have any suggestions for than being a dick about it.

You COULD mention that by getting a headset you are often paying premium for an "all in one" solution but that's completely fine for some people. What I despise about /g/ often is how everyone seems to think other anons' wallets when judging anything and that's exactly what most of this headset autism comes from. By pushing your own ideas of what to buy to someone else is only going to start an argument and it's often not going to help the person asking for recommendations either. Give them what they ask within reason. Ruling out headsets from someone who doesn't care about sound quality and want's a headset is fairly unreasonable. If they really were interested in getting high quality headphones, they'd ask for it.

And as a side note, I think the "wireless is frowned upon" is even more dumb. There are plenty of situations where someone would want to get a pair of wireless headphones. They are plagued by the same problem though: lack of measured data.
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>>53524566
Okay, ask yourself. If they don't care about sound quality, why even ask at all? Just go out and buy another set that you think would work.
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>>53524651
>Yes.
You are free to lie to others. I will stick to telling the truth.
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>>53524662
A headset isn't about sound quality. It's about convenience. People asking for a headset recommendation are merely looking for the ability to talk to their friends while they play games on Steam and they don't want to spend more than $50 to do so and they don't want to buy a separate mic.

They don't even know what a driver is. They couldn't care less either.
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>>53524662
Because maybe we'd still have something to recommend, even if it isn't sound quality what the anon is after. Maybe it's just ruling out some completely trash products out or to recommend something with decent build quality, comfort, warranty etc.
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Are there any wireless bluetooth headphones that don't make you look like a fucking pillock if you wear them in public?
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>>53524660
>That's dumb, honestly. There's just a lack of documented performance in headsets
Let me see if I understand you correctly. You are arguing that we should suggest headsets based upon a lack of disproving their shitty quality? Arguing from ignorance of specific measurements and cherry-picking out the past examples of gaming headsets being shit? Ignoring the higher failure rates and increased mechanical complexity of making an all-in-one headset over buying them separately so that if one of the two component fails you can just repair/replace it?

And you say something else is "dumb, honestly?"
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>>53524626
This.
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>>53524626
>>53524626
Ignoring >>53524421
>hurr muh elitism
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>>53524705
>let's turn gamers into audiophiles, the thread
>every tiem
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>>53524779
Yep. Ignored. I don't give a flying fuck if a gamer wastes $10. It's not worth the shitposts arguing with them generates. Fuck em. Let them have their headset recommendation and get them the fuck out of here.
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>>53524782
>>let's turn gamers into audiophiles, the thread
You know, speaking of gamers, there's apparently a subset of people that get upset when people listen for audio cues in games.
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>>53524782
>>let's turn gamers into audiophiles, the thread
It was suggested not to lie to gamers not turn them into audiophiles.
Straw man argument when cannot discuss the facts.
>every tiem
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>>53524734
>>53524746
I don't disagree with you, but still.
Also, for $35, the best that /v/fag could do is buy a separate mic. Headphones aren't even that good at that price.
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Reminder for all people seeking for a gaming headset: get a Kingston HyperX Cloud. Your budget doesn't matter, the HyperX is cheap and satisfies the needs of both gamers and general listeners.
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>>53524746
omg this.
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>>53523715
Use the fornt panel connector.
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>>53524823
>i don't care about others being fucked as long as it doesn't disturb me
Yep, you're an asshole.
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>>53524905
>I can't let a gamer buy a headset without trying convert him into an audiophile because they're wasting $10
Yep, you're autistic.
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>>53524424
thanks mate. that's a good advice
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>>53524905
Don't bother, dude. He's an arrogant ass who cannot fathom the possibility he is wrong. He's just going to troll you and mischaracterize your arguments in every way to "prove he's right."
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I have a pair of HyperX Cloud exclusively for gaming and the JBL lsr 305 for music/movies.


Get on my level scrubs.
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>>53524905
>>53524953
(You)
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>>53524754
I'm asking for people to have reason when recommending products. People who ask for a headset often don't care about sound quality and they are fine with paying for convenience. I'm not saying you should recommend shit but you shouldn't automatically trash every headset request just because they tend to be of lesser value in price/sound quality. Value is subjective and what the person values should be apparent from the requesting template. If you truly think there's no point in what a person is asking, call it out. Otherwise do what you can based on the request or don't reply. It's not up to us to preach about things the person asking doesn't even care for.
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>>53524953
Yeah, i've noticed from that silly reply, still, he suggested doing a headset guide for op, while that's stupid i don't think it's a bad idea to reintroduce to Op the explanation about headsets Vs. Headphones + Mic, most requests for headsets follow the form, só it's not like they don't read the Op.
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Can anyone recommend a good gaming headset for under $25?

Mine broke :(
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>>53525013
>I'm asking for people to have reason when recommending products.
Then your point about a "lack of measurements" is a farce. We have one more reason to not suggest headsets as they are not, by your own admission, "documented." You want us to not speculate?

>People who ask for a headset often don't care about sound quality
Are you now not doing exactly that? Speculating as to the purpose of why an anon comes to /hpg/ to ask for purchasing advice?

>you shouldn't automatically trash every headset request
I don't trash every headset request simply because of audio quality. As it has been pointed out numerous times there are _other_reasons for suggesting against purchasing headsets other than audio quality. They are a poor purchasing decisions when you can save money and get better quality, audio/build/etc.
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>>53525080
http://www.amazon.com/iContact-IC-HP205-Multipurpose-Built--Microphone/dp/B00OPGIN6I/ref=sr_1_1?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1458162084&sr=1-1&keywords=iContact+IC-HP205+-+Multipurpose+Wired+Headphone+with+Built-in+Microphone+and+One-Touch+Playback+Control+-+White
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>>53525184
Thanks!
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>>53525091
>Then your point about a "lack of measurements" is a farce. We have one more reason to not suggest headsets as they are not, by your own admission, "documented." You want us to not speculate?
You have now missed the "not caring about sound quality" -point twice, congratulations. Being reasonable doesn't mean you should just forget sound quality either.

>Are you now not doing exactly that? Speculating as to the purpose of why an anon comes to /hpg/ to ask for purchasing advice?
They come to get help with their purchase. What the need should be obvious based on what they fill to the template. Assuming that they actually want something else than what they asked for or that they shouldn't buy what they want to buy is counterproductive in most cases.

>I don't trash every headset request simply because of audio quality. As it has been pointed out numerous times there are _other_reasons for suggesting against purchasing headsets other than audio quality. They are a poor purchasing decisions when you can save money and get better quality, audio/build/etc.
Sure shitty models exist but it's not inherent to all headsets or even headsets only. Recommend quality based on the request, not by your own ideas. Anon's money is not your concern.

You should go do salesman work to a store where there's not a single decent product(in your mind) on sale.
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>>53525472
>You have now missed the "not caring about sound quality" -point twice
Are you moving the goalposts from "documented sound" to "ignoring sound all together?"

>They come to get help with their purchase.
Is not suggesting a headphone + mic over headset doing exactly that?

>is counterproductive in most cases.
That is a weak argument. Just like stopping a blind person from jumping off a cliff is "counterproductive."

Merely because you cannot be bothered to inquire more deeply and resort to speculating that a person who asks for a headset doesn't care about audio quality doesn't mean the rest of us should do that simply because you deem it "counterproductive."


>Sure shitty models exist but it's not inherent to all headsets
Straw man? No claim was made that it is inherent to all headsets only that most of them fit that trend. When we have evidence to suggest to the otherwise, such as with the Hyper X Cloud, we might suggest something to that effect while trying to point out the failings of headsets compared to headphone + mic. Even when the headset isn't complete shit it is still riddled with shit that doesn't come with non-headsets.
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>>53525582
>Is not suggesting a headphone + mic over headset doing exactly that?

Gamers don't want that and you know it. They want an all-in-one unit and you know it.

Despite knowing it, you continue to recommend what you know they do not want because your autistic.
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>>53525621
>Gamers don't want that and you know it.
No, I don't. That's part of the point. I cannot read their mind. But clearly you can.
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>>53525642
>No, I don't.
Yes you do. You've argued with over a hundred gamers about the value they would save if they would buy the units separately. You have this image >>53524303 >>53523873

...and others in a folder, waiting on standby, ready to be deployed to support your argument. You know damned well that they want an all-in-one unit. Fucking liar.
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>>53525696
>Yes you do. You've argued with over a hundred gamers
Clearly you know more about my experiences and mind than I do. As you make it plain that no matter what I tell you to the otherwise you are just going to disregard it and tell me what I know it is pointless to present any further words to you.

Have you sought professional help for your ego issues? Oh, wait. You are omniscient and can read everyone's mind. I'm sure there are not people who come here with an idea of what they want but change that idea when they get more information of what actually fulfills their purpose and then some. No, they know exactly what they want and have perfect knowledge just like you do.
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TFW $60 shp9500 in the mail

I hope I didn't fall for a shit meme.
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>>53525582
>Are you moving the goalposts from "documented sound" to "ignoring sound all together?"
I literally just told you I'm not in the previous post as if it wasn't obvious enough from the rest of my posts.

>Is not suggesting a headphone + mic over headset doing exactly that?
In some cases yes.

>Just like stopping a blind person from jumping off a cliff is "counterproductive."
And that's an analogy that doesn't even work, the fuck.

We're partly in agreement here too and there's nothing in your post that I didn't cover already.

---

Post what you are listening

https://a.uguu.se/swevbi.mp3

Toshio Masuda — Depths of Winter
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MA900 Master race
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>>53525735
It isn't necessary to read your mind. Your style of writing makes it very clear who you are. I've seen you any many Headphone General threads. You aren't being honest when you say that you don't know that gamers who come here looking for headsets don't want to buy the mic and the headphone separately. You know that they want an all-in-one unit.

You've spent a great deal of time here trying to convince gamers that purchasing the units separately is better.
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>>53525834
>I literally just told you I'm not in the previous post
Let's take a quick look at the previous post.

>You have now missed the "not caring about sound quality" -point twice, congratulations. Being reasonable doesn't mean you should just forget sound quality either.
Nope.
>They come to get help with their purchase. What the need should be obvious based on what they fill to the template. Assuming that they actually want something else than what they asked for or that they shouldn't buy what they want to buy is counterproductive in most cases.
Nope.
>Sure shitty models exist but it's not inherent to all headsets or even headsets only. Recommend quality based on the request, not by your own ideas. Anon's money is not your concern.
Nope.
>You should go do salesman work to a store where there's not a single decent product(in your mind) on sale.
Nope.

Where "literally" did you "in the previous post" did you state you were making a point that did not derive from "documented sound?"

Bullshit defined and defeated.

>In some cases yes.
So we can just ignore the asserted:
>They come to get help with their purchase.
is proven specious.

Bullshit defined and defeated.

>And that's an analogy that doesn't even work, the fuck.
Please elaborate how so? You deem functioning under the belief that people do not perfect knowledge is "counterproductive" and the analogy is an apt demonstration of such folly.

>We're partly in agreement here too and there's nothing in your post that I didn't cover already.
Then there would no purpose to respond to this post other than pursuit of some personal benefit such as being emotionally invested in your posts.
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>>53526560
look at that ego
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>>53526723
it's over-inflated. wish I could be there when it pops.
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>>53526723
>>53526831
You are both invited to participate in the discussion if you actually care to advance it in some substantive manner. Making some vague allusions to the poster's character is shitposting at best.
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What are /good/ sub-$20 bluetooth headphones that aren't ear-dildos?
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>>53526917
The discussion is over and you lost. We have established that headsets are an appropriate topic to discuss in this thread. Your objections are merely manifestations of autism.

gg.
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>>53527017
lol
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>>53527017
LOL uh, no?
Fuck off, seriously. It's there in the OP for this exact reason. We don't give a shit about your /v/ opinions.
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>>53527111
>we
You don't speak for us. Take your autism somewhere else kid.
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>>53527017
>We have established (through fallacies and personal insults) that headsets are an appropriate topic to discuss in this thread.
FTFY
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>>53527017
hahahahahahaha
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>>53527127
>you don't speak for us
Exactly, because you're not /hpg/. You're faggots trying to force stupid shit in here and make it acceptable.
Fuck off.
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>>53527017
I suspect Mr. Perfect Knowledge is so busy patting himself on the back that he doesn't realize how much of an idiot he proves himself to be.
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>>53526982
at that price point, all of your options are going to have significant build quality issues. your budget isn't realistic.
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