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Previous Thread: >>53474883
first for everything is a meme
Need halp.
My Sennheiser HD 429s just shit the bed, need something to replace them. Was looking at the AKG K142 HD, but will take any suggestions.
>$50-120
>USA
>Over ear
>Open or semi open
>comfy
>IDK about tonal balance, but I listen to a lot of rock, pop, classical and blues
>Sennheiser HD 429s
>£100-150
>UK
>Pc or small dac amp depending on price of headphone
>Over ear (big)
>Open
>VERY COMFORTABLE (over super accuracy)
>Warm
>Metal, rock, 80s, jazz big band
M50s are okay but i want something i can ware for hours, at the moment im using my phillips m1 portables and they are nice but i want more, bigger headphones with are more open sound
>>53495293
meme
>>53495896
The K142 is on ear, if you want over ear then go for the K240.
>>53495975
AKG K612 + SMSL SD 793II
Anyone here have the Bifrost/Asgard combo? Worth the money over the intro stack?
Is the SMSL M8 a worthwhile upgrade from the E10K?
>>53496770
Even Schiit shill central SBAF don't really talk about the Asgard much because it's just not worth it over the Magni. (Plus the Valhalla 2 and Vali 2 are preferred anyway)
Asking again.
If I'm going to spend a retardo amount of money, should I go for Ether+LCD XC or LCD X+Ether C?
>>53496979
buy a used car from the 70s
>>53496979
>>53496995
Buy a used headphone from the 70s
for the guy that was asking, yeah I like the x2 for metal, but then I do reduce the bass hump some with eq. too much bass is bad for metal imo, but mildly bassy/v-shaped with good impact is nice. or warm. I don't like totally neutral for metal, and definitely not bright. mid-focused can make some metal sound muffled/congested.
>>53495276
>100-150$
>U.S.
>Wired, if possible replaceable wire
>IEM
>Closed
>N/A
>Bassy
>Rap, EDM, Dubstep, the occasional classical track
>Brainwavs S1, HD419, Xiomi Piston 3, Sony assorted headphones.
>>53496701
the intro stack is already overkill for almost all headphones. you're paying for placebo.
>>53497690
se215? there actually aren't that many IEM with replaceable cables that can be relied on.
>>53497643
I'm still here. Thanks for the rec, I admit I was kind of looking forward to the K712s because the review I had read made it seem like I had found a pair of headphones that had suited all the genres of metal I actually listened to while being in the price range, but I might have to reconsider now. I think I will look more in to the K7XXs as the X2s just look like a slightly better version of the 770s for Industrial that would still have the problems the 770 has on the remaining subgenres.
BLUETOOTH CLOSED OVER EAR HEADPHONES, I NEED SOME. REC ME SOME. THANKS. i know bluetooth is frowned upon but just gibme some good recs to check out. budget dont matta
>>53497730
Thanks the recommendation but the removable wire is just an after thought. I'm just tired of weak wiring...my Brainwavs were my most recent set and they broke after a month because of shitty chink wiring.
>>53497803
>>53497803
To the format.
>pic related
>100-400 Fairly flexible on price. Don't want to spend upwards of 400 if I don't have to, but I'd be willing to if they're nice enough.
>U.S.
>Wired
>Over Ear
>Closed
>Fairly comfy, able to wear for 4+ hours
>N/A
>Pretty much everything but country. Some days I could be listening to classic rock, rap, or pop. Classical music. Other days it could be deep house, nu disco etc. Sometimes I listen to podcasts. I want to get the most out of all my music pretty much.
>I currently use an in ear pair of jvc earbuds for my ipod (if i'm out and about), TB X22s for my pc, and TB 420xs for my xbone.
I want to get into a nice pair of headphones, I don't want to use shitty headsets anymore. I plan on getting a stand alone mic down the road as well so this will help when I eventually go that route.
>>53495276
Hi.
>$200
>US of America
>Portability on the go and what not.
>On-Ear
>ULTRA COMFORT
>Balanced with bass raised a little.
>I've used Hifiman HE-400i, Sennheiser HD-600, Aiaiai TMA-1, Shure SE-215, AKG K-550, and Audiotechnica M50x.
>Post-Rock (Swans/GY!BE), Math-Rock (Battles), Hardcore (Converge/Dead Kennedys), Post-Punk (This Heat/Joy Division), Progressive Electronic (Tangerine Dream), Ambient Noise (Tim Hecker/Ben Frost), Progressive Rock (King Crimson), Krautrock(Faust), RnB(Marvin Gaye), Jazz (Charles Mingus), Folk (The Microphones/Bob Dylan), Hip Hop (Madvillain/Kendrick Lamar), Art Pop (Bjork/Kate Bush), Black Metal (Burzum/Altar of Plagues) and Classical (Steve Reich/Philip Glass).
Basically headphones that are all around balanced with all music genres please. Just threw these names in to get a reference of some kind.
>>53497765
the guy who said the k712 is shit is full of it. it's the same damn thing as the k7xx, and both were originally the k702 annie. it's the pads that make all the difference. different pads = more bass, slightly different upper mids and highs but still pretty close to the 701 and 701. it has warmer bass, but the hump is broad, so it doesn't have the same kind of driving bass with lots of impact that the dt770 or x2 have. depends on what you like. headphones with a broad bass rise tend to not have enough thump thump for me, but many bassy (bass hump) headphones have too much. if you liked the dt770, you will like the x2, it will be familiar to you. if you want something different, get the k7xx. I think you're covered on closed with the 770, and if you want something open that doesn't have rolled off bass your options are actually pretty limited. k7xx, hd650, x2 are the best imo. all the other good open headphones in that range tend towards bright or mid-focused.
>>53497962
I guess should also mention that at this point in time they'd just be going into the jack on my pc.
>>53497765
oh and if by problem you mean the mids dip, yeah x2 has that as well, but bring it back up with eq and it's fine. my hp50 has a bit better mids. sennheiser in my experience always wins if you want those delicious mids. love female trance vocals on my 598, but then those have disadvantages as well, I almost never use them for metal.
>>53497827
I've heard of multiple IEMs that have removable cables where the jack actually introduced an extra point of failure in the housing to the point where they went back to fixed wire. I think some vsonic IEMs did that. I stick to cheap stuff partly because replacing $7 IEMs is easy. and really my hje-120k has lasted way longer than I expected it too and I'm not easy on it either. main drawback if the se215 is some find the bass too powerful, but if you're ok with that level of bass they do have excellent build quality and isolation. they're not going to sound dramatically more detailed than your piston 3 though.
>>53497803
meelectronics air-fi matrix I think it's called. alternatively:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/innerfidelitys-wall-fame-wireless
>>53497962
oppo pm3
>>53497966
never tried them myself but I've always wanted to try the zoro 2 hd because they measure great on paper.
>>53497803
If you really need bluetooth get regular wired headphones and a bluetooth adapter. At least you'll have decent audio when you can hook it up directly to the source.
>>53497690
>>53497730
don't the ath-im50/im70 have replaceable wires?
Any Beyerdynamic DT880 Premium owners here? Can you contact them and ask if they have replaceable headbands? http://north-america.beyerdynamic.com/contact.html
SHP9500s are $60 on eBay. Debating them, but my need has really shifted to needing a really good behind the head set of on-ear bluetooth headphones for running.
E12 or E12A to drive PM3
>>53498786
>head set of on-ear bluetooth headphones for running.
enjoy them falling down every five minutes retard
>>53498786
I got a pair of shp3500 last week for $75 on Amazon. They're amazing and well worth every penny
>>53499221
>E12 or E12A to drive PM3
You don't really need that but either one works.
>>53497966
K545, if you like your K550 it is basically just a more portable version of that.
>>53499725
I've been thinking this for the longest time. And I think your onto something. I liked my AKG K550's, but the bass was too thin for me.
>>53499824
>too thin
the fuck does that even mean
>>53499846
It means the bass is too light or basically tinny.
I prefer more thump in my bass like the HE-400i's or HD 600's. That's all my concerns are with the K-550's though. And I've heard they've improved it with the newer versions.
>>53499846
>Thin - Fundamentals are weak relative to harmonics. Bass light.
http://www.head-fi.org/a/describing-sound-a-glossary
>>53499876
isn't tinny the treble?
>>53499883
so why not say bass light you fucking twat
>>53497966
>>53499824
fuck portability, 770
>>53499932
Because thin is shorter and to the point. Tinny means that it has peaking mids (which the K550's have) and thin/meh lows. I had to fool around with an equalizer to get to sound right.
>>53499932
>770
Of what? Beyer DT770? Isn't that a little crazy?
>>53499932
tinny, is the upper midrange. AKG are often described as tinny because of their signature 2khz bump.
>>53499967
>Because thin is shorter and to the point.
there's a one letter difference between light and thin you retard
>Of what? Beyer DT770? Isn't that a little crazy?
Oh I didn't see you were asking on ear, move along then
I think even if you asked god or satan to give you a very comfortable pair of on ears, they'd draw a blank
/hpg/ I have a conundrum
I want new headphones. Well more correctly I want them.
>$400-1000 AU
>Australia
>Over Ear
>Open
>Neutral/analytical
>Jazz/Classical/Metal/Pop/Rap anything
I really really liked the sennheiser hd600 and was wondering if the hd700 are similar? Does hpg know?
>>53500048
That was meant to be need > want
I think I need to go to bed. I also want to.
>>53500014
Fine. Then give me a good over the ear headphone that is portable and is alright to look at in public (Yes, I'm considering this, because I don't want to look like a clown).
>>53500048
HD700 is one of the worst Sennheiser headphones to be produced. It's basically their 'what-the-fuck-were-they-thinking?' model. If you like the HD600 then go with that, the 700 is only worse.
>>53500048
K702 + ODAC and O2
>>53500048
HD600 is quite overrated and if you are looking for neutral you dont want the HD700. You would be better off considering the HE 400i or K702 and a good amp/dac combo like a Schiit stack or a O2 + ODAC
>>53500048
friendly reminder not to take K702 shitposting 'recommendations' seriously. it's just a shitpost. now watch as the autist replies to damage control his shitposting, along with multiple samefag replies to your post recommending the K702 or other AKG headphones.
>>53500123
This. When I got the HD-600's. I wondered if it was for me, because the "veil" or pretty much the whole thing sounded kinda distorted to me. Where as when I got the HE-400i I was sold on the sound because of how it sounded a bit cleaner.
>>53495276
Asking a specific question in regards to two different headphones.
I currently have a pair of Superlux HD668-Bs. I enjoy the amount of bass they have, but sometimes feel that they don't have -quite- enough, though extremely close. I enjoy the clarity, though feel they are a little grainy at higher volumes.
I listen to a lot of indie pop, folk, nothing that is extremely fast and intense like metal. I play a ton of games, CS:GO mainly. So I'm looking for a great soundstage.
My two headphone choices are currently the Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro 250 Ohms, or the Audio Technica ATH-AD900X headphones.
From what I understand, the DT990 will have boomier bass, but a reduced soundstage and possibly painful treble. The AD900Xs should have beautiful clarity from the mids to highs, but the bass isn't quite there.
What I can't find is a comparison of the bass on the AD900Xs to the Superlux HD668Bs. If it's equal or great, I feel like those are the better choice, since the rest of the headphone should beat the DT990s. But if the bass is lesser than the HD668Bs, I feel like I'd need to chose the DT990s, but I'm worried about losing clarity because of the "boomy" not tight bass and sibilant highs.
Would anyone be able to weigh in on this?
>>53500149
Then again my HE-400i's looks like this.
>>53500154
Oh, I'm powering headphones through an SMSL SD-793II DAC/amp.
>>53500133
http://pastebin.com/rhEPFtRj
no one cares
>>53500072
>(Yes, I'm considering this, because I don't want to look like a clown).
come on now laddy
m40x is portable, alright to look at in public and is decent, but it's the exact opposite of what you want
7506/v6 is decently portable, sort of alright to look at in public (varying responses due to age) and is great, but it's the exact opposite of what you want
doesn't change the fact you won't find a comfortable pair of on ears though you twat
nevertheless you'll look even more like an idiot with on ears because honestly who the fuck wears on ears
Maybe the VModa M-100? I think you'll get varying responses, even more so depending on which plate you have on it
>>53500154
DT 990 a shit
>>53500173
end your life welfarecuck. you'll never be able to afford the he-560
![graphCompare[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/WfR6lmh.png "graphCompare[1].png")
>>53500154
the treble is the same, the sub bass is much stronger, the bass is slightly stronger
>>53500173
If I had enough autism, I could pretty easily make a similar, much more detailed pastebin for the AKG shill complete with archive post links, but it would be like winning the Special Olympics.
>>53500189
I don't want a He560, what is your obsession with that guy?
>>53500177
I said I'll get Over-Ear headphones. I understand that On-Ear isn't comfortable and isn't as portable as IEMs, but I need something for relaxation while at work. And IEM's hurt my ears within 30min. Which is not enough time for me to listen to shit.
>>53500189
>>53500209
Samefagging no one is shilling akg here your just a paranoid autist.
>>53500196
So based on that I should really like the DT-990.
It's a shame they don't have the same details for the ATH-AD900X, I'd love to see that comparison in the lower range.
Thanks for the input!
>>53499875
>>53499929
>>53499965
>>53499983
>>53500033
>>53500087
>>53500158
>>53500197
>>53495998
>>53497018
>>53500102
>>53500173
>>53500214
back to r/headphones welfarecuck and stop shitting up the board
>>53500225
Last time you called me a samefag, you gave up pretty soon and started calling me inbred or something after I posted poor seal measurements for K550.
Keep it up man.
>>53500225
>can't check for samefag
fucking newfag welfarecuck end your life
>>53500234
>being so mad that he has to shitpost in other threads
pathetic
>>53500244
>shitposts in every thread he can
>tries to claim anyone else shitposts
sad
>>53500229
if it's anything like the original ath-ad900, which it usually is
then no
just no mate, just stop it
just don't mate what the fuck
they're so weak in both bass & treble mate come on now
>>53500216
so check out vmoda M-100, unless I fucked up and those are the on ear ones
>>53500154
>>53500196
In the superlux 2011 product catalog it says dt990 and hd668b
>>53500250
I know thats what your doing
>>53500262
>i know you are but what am i
it's not surprising welfarecuck has the cognitive abilities of a preschooler
>>53500257
well I'm not sure how accurate that graph is, but you can still see some consistencies
aka, sub bass on 990 is significantly better, the rest of the bass is prety close, treble is pretty close too
>>53500102
>>53500123
>>53500149
I have k712's, are the 702 more neutral than these?
Also my end goal is to go high end with the amp and DAC, will I really not notice the difference between say a $3000 dac and a $200 ODAC?
>>53500262
you are just proving that your a newfag by replying to this obvious regular shitposter http://pastebin.com/rhEPFtRj
>>53500262
>>53500294
samefag
>>53500292
I highly doubt you'll notice the difference between e10k & ODAC solely based on the dac
>>53500292
Yes the K702 is more neutral than the K712 and there is no point in getting anything better or more expensive/better than the O2+ODAC.
>>53500255
What type of sound signature does it have. Also does it have atleast okay soundstage. It doesn't need to be K-550's level of good. Also M-100's are $270 which is above my budget.
I think your talking about LP-2. Which makes me more skeptical.
>>53500048
The HD700 shouldn't be considered, it's actually one of the worst high-end headphones in production. If you liked the HD600, you'd better take a new HD600, even though I'm a bit puzzled by your saying that you want a neutral/analytical sound, because the HD600 is really far from that. HD600 may succeed in presenting "natural and unfatiguing" sound walls, but when it comes to details, instruments' separation and generally clarity it can't simply compete with either the DT 880 600 ohm or the AKG K7- series.
>>53500292
K712 is a sort of an AKG counterpart of the Sennheiser HD700, aka it's not worth the extra money over the cheaper models of AKG. Q01/K701/K7XX/K702 are all more neutral and balanced than the K712, as well as HD600 is generally better than HD700. The main difference is that Sennheiser products are usually overpriced (and inferior) compared to the AKG or the Beyer models belonging to the same cathegory,
>>53500316
Why don't you change your routine up a bit? you literally are the easiest person to spot on this entire board.
>>53500331
bassy
like bassy to the bass
it's hard to find something that's portable, comfortable, bassy and in your budget
>>53500257
>>53500196
So for the purposes I listed in >>53500154, how much would I have to spend on phones to notice an appreciable difference in sound quality? It seems like I should like the DT990s more, but they won't necessarily blow me away after using the HD668Bs for so long.
>>53500355
you literally cannot prove you aren't samefagging because you're too brain deficient to avoid the posting timelimit and your shitty attempts and trying to pretend you're someone else are so obvious, end your life.
>>53500365
No, I didn't want something extremely bassy. I said a little bassy, but mostly neutral/balanced.
>>53500375
>implying your shitposting deserves my utmost attention
Dont flatter yourself.
>>53500370
It's just not boomier or ringy if you see the CSD graph
http://en.goldenears.net/4251
http://en.goldenears.net/10634
>>53500375
What headphones do you have?
>>53500390
>>53500410
end your life welfarecuck
>>53500417
why don't you tell us?
>>53500421
why don't you stop shitposting in every thread and samefagging half the posts in them once they go to shit
>>53500344
where do the hd800 fall on that line?
Also why are people mentioning he-400i? From what I can find they don't appear to be all that neutral? Or maybe the people reviewing them are fucked?
>>53500436
>I AM RUBBER YOU ARE GLUE
guys you're responding to a west block prepubescent dota scammer
>>53500380
that's what k550 is, hell k550 is more than that
>>53500437
>where do the hd800 fall on that line?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0QrsBzmVVw
"world's best headphone"
>>53500436
These threads are only shit at night and that's because you are here so tell me why don't you ever tell us what headphones you have.
>>53500048
HD 600 is the best you can do there. HD 700 is awful. There were at least two vendors in AU which had a sale on the HD 600, too. Prices over there are pretty weird and HD 600 seems to go cheaper than Beyers or AKGs which tend to cost less than the HD 600 here. If you need an amplifier, Objective 2 or Magni would do the job. Not sure about the pricing over there regarding these but your budget is huge.
>>53498591
Bump. Am I literally forced to buy a DT880 Pro pleather headband wrap if my DT880 Premium gets damaged and peeling?
>>53500450
Okay. Here's a better descriptor. Natural/Easy-Listening like the HD-600, but in smaller form and closed.
Anyone knows/ can measure the cable diameter of the akg k701 ? I need to buy a new jack to fix it and I can't remember if it's bigger or smaller than 5mm.
>>53500457
>HD600 is cheaper than beyers and AKG
Canadian detected
>>53500454
why don't you end your life welfarecuck
>>53500475
Why dont you tell us?
>>53500451
Sometimes wish I could get a straight answer every time from hpg.
Do you link this because of the mods that people supposedly have to do to make them "world's best headphone?". I mean I guess it means they're not as good as everyone says, if those same people have to go out of their way to modify the things to make them not hurt to listen to.
>>53500437
HD800 are the best Sennheiser headphones in production now. If you're willing to spend that much for them, they're a huge jump from the HD600. HD800's treble is harsh out of the box, then they must be EQ.
> HE-400i
Chinese shit. People like it only because it has the planar magnetic's distinctive bass. They aren't as good as open headphones costing half of their price for the rest.
>>53500470
The diameter of the cable of the K702 measures around 3mm. I don't know if it's the same size as K701 cable.
>>53500473
Just stated how it is over in AU usually where the anon requesting purchase advice lived. Where I live the pricing is... normal? HD 600 being somewhat over 300e and the rest in the 200e region or less. Nice try.
>>53500470
I need a new mini xlr for my k712's.
>>53500484
why would i tell you when the only reason we know what garbage headphones you have are because you're the k340 welfarecuck and everyone knows it yet you still try to deny it and pretend you're 2 different posters and try to switch up punctuation.
literally the thought capacity of a 10 year old if you think you're fooling anybody.
>>53500500
HE400i>HD600
>>53500512
I don't own a K340 i have a SHP9500 as im sure i told you before so why are you constantly dodging my question?
>>53500514
Of course, but:
AKG K7- series/Beyer DT 880 600 ohm > HE 400i > HD600
>>53500512
Im not pretending to be anyone btw and i always punctuate.
Is there a big improvement in sound quality between the k612 and the k702?
I'm thinking of buying the former, since its over $100 cheaper than the k702
>>53500500
>Chinese shit.
But it could also be that you're just saying that because you like another brand. /hpg/ is fun like that.
Anything that they're weak in to give me an idea of why you say that?
>>53500543
So you dodge the question because you have a knock off AKG. Nice.
>>53500561
it's better than the k702 but it's a bit harder to drive so if you don't already have an amp the price difference may be pointless.
>>53500496
Being moddable is important for people who for some reason don't like EQ but want to address a FR problem area. The HD700 failed partly because it's like a worse unmoddable HD800. Come to think of it, the K812 is like that too.
>>53500524
>i have a SHP9500
Are you still using this alter ego? Remember how utterly unconvincing that was when you first tried it?
>>53500570
Is it really better? Thats surprising given the price difference. I already have an O2 so that's not a factor.
>>53500500
>HD800 are the best Sennheiser headphones in production now.
>then they must be EQ.
>they're a huge jump from the HD600
Really now? As someone who owns HD 800 and has used HD 600 and HD 650 quite a lot, that's just bullshit. If you apply EQ to both, there is no "huge jump" anymore and if the HD 800 needs to be EQ'd, it certainly doesn't sound like a jump to the better.
>>53500527
Nice meme.
>>53500561
K702 has better sound stage, removable cable, better build quality and better low end and highs.
>>53500465
so now you want dark & bass heavy?
what the fuck is wrong with you
>>53500584
How am i trying to convince you? If you don't believe i have a $60 headphone then ok.
>>53500602
Not bass heavy. As I said easy-listening similar to the HD-600. It is a warmer sounding headphone, but it isn't too dark/bassy to make me feel noxious.
>>53500588
it isn't a meme everyone knows >>53500527
is right
>>53500588
Here we go with the HD800 hate train from the objectivist neutralist Franz.
>>53500561
> Is there a big improvement in sound quality between the k612 and the k702?
Not at all. Since when AKG moved the production to China, the sound differences between the different models have become thinner. See >>53500601
>>53500563
> Anything that they're weak in to give me an idea of why you say that?
Everything but bass.
>>53500588
Could you give me your opinion on their sound signatures?
I'm looking at 600/650/700's
>>53500391
CSDs don't tell you much useful information, least of all Goldenears heavily smoothed charts.
>>53500437
What do you mean by that? HD 800 is a V-shaped headphone, with low distortion values.
Things like neutrality or the natural response don't actually matter too much. Nothing is really that neutral, nothing has that much clarity, but everything can take to EQ.
>>53500563
>you like another brand
There isn't a thing as a "good" brand, just brands that suck less. Brands are all over the place with their tuning.
Audeze and Stax have strong "house" sound that someone might be inclined towards, but even they can drop the ball with tuning or production capability.
>>53500625
>>53500602
bass light*
>>53500629
The production move to china literally did nothing but drive the price on the headphones down and that's it.
>>53500647
>audeze
no
/hpg/ what is your opinion of the beyerdynamic t90?
memes aside
>>53500680
Absolutely disgusting. I heard it once. Like it. Heard it again after a month again. It sounded like shit ringing into your ears.
>>53500048
If youre getting the HD600. Order a Piston 3 too and EQ out the bass. There now you have a IEM that is like a HD600 too.
>>53500680
that thing being ear rape the headphone is no meme
>>53496979
The latter.
>>53500675
>audeze has build problems
>no
Really?
>>53500680
It would be okay if it didn't have such a large and focused treble peak. But it does.
>>53500437
400i isn't neutral. But nothing mentioned in this thread so far has any pretensions to neutral.
The trick is that you apply EQ to it, and take advantage of that the distortion performance is excellent.
>>53496979
I would avoid LCD-XC. I don't know what Ether C sounds like, I don't expect much.
What is your use case anyway? Maybe in-ears would do better or a set of loudspeakers?
>>53500629
>Here we go with the HD800 hate train
Far from it. It's the only full sized headphone I ever use... after EQ. I hate the fact how people paint it as something magical, especially those who don't own it and repeat the audiophile bullshit often surrounding "flagship" headphones. HD 800 does everything else right except the frequency response - the most important part. If you bother with precise EQ(or some mods), it's fantastic. If you don't, it's meh.
>>53500637
HD 600 is the most neutral and in my opinion the best sounding open back without equalization. It has slight boost in mid bass but overall the response is well extended and it's particularly accurate in the upper midrange where most headphones show siginifact variation from any target curve and which is a region where our hearing is the most sensitive to amplitude differences. HD 600 is very accurate on diffuse field target and it sounds really clear to describe it with one word.
HD 650 is fairly close to the HD 600 but the larger midbass hump and rolled off treble/upper mids make it too warm sounding for my ears. It's easy to EQ with only a few filters though but I don't see its value over HD 600 given that it's more expensive and subjectively sounds worse. Some people prefer warmer sound signature and for them the HD 650 is great as the response is smooth and extended but with a warm tilt.
HD 700 is horrible. It has nasty treble peak and signifactly recessed upper midrange. It sounds harsh and piercing and thanks the recessed upper mids it lacks "clarity". It should cost one third of what it does now, maybe even less.
>>53500680
Awful.
>>53500814
Really I dont feel like buying a $1000 headphone with build problems
>>53500840
Thank you. That clearly and eloquently described exactly what I wanted to know about those headphones.
do you happen to have recommendations for someone who is now considering beyer dt880's after reading that they are neutral, have great imaging, and don't have the treble peaks of the t90/hd800?
>>53500848
I don't think the wood cracks that often.
If you want someone who has had problems with Audeze, there used to be a poster here whose Fazor drivers blew out three or four times in one year before finally ditching it on someone else.
Neither Audeze nor Hifiman are great on the build.
I missed it in the mess of thread crapping, but what did you like about HD 600 again?
>>53500984
>implying sennheiser had better build quality than hifiman
wew lad
>>53500984
Not him but I like that they're mostly neutral with a bit of warmth in the upper mids. It's a nice midground between kill-it-with-fire niggerbass or trebleheads and dead-cat-in-a-concrete-box stale levels of monitoring neutrality.
>>53501000
I have beyerdynamics that i have to keep wrapped in a towel or they'll melt onto your scalp because the leather they used melts after a year of use.
I have AKG's with broken cables after a few months of careful use.
Every brand has their problems. It's about how they handle them that sets them apart.
I'm looking for a babby first headphone purchase. Mostly for playing video games because i'm a giant manchild.
I heard about the D770 PRO.
>>53501042
K553 is better
>>53500872
DT880 is bright as it has a treble peak at the same frequency range as the T90 but of much smaller amplitude. It doesn't sound as piercing. They are good if this is what you are looking for.
>>53501042
check the op and give it a go in the proper request format
decide if you want open (better stereo, sound leaks) or closed (more bass, no sound leak) cans first
>>53500625
HD650
>>53500628
>One man's opinion on headphones
>This same fucker is still available for hire in hotpockets
Do you have second thought before shilling the K7- series.
>>53500872
The DT880 mostly just has a massive treble dip at 5khz(5db left and 12db right). Otherwise they would be neutral.
>>53501000
In general with every brand.
Plastic still terrible alone; Go metallic hybrid.
>>53501042
MSR7 trust me m8, you'll never be disappointed. >>53501053 I also have the K550, it's not really the type for games like CS.
Just fuck my shit up family, I got these headphones yesterday and they're great, gonna try out some mods later.
>>53501145
>implying the K702 isn't master race
sennheiser is total garbage AKG, hifiman and beyer are all better choices
>i have a K550
sure you do :^)
>>53501231
>having to mod a $1500 headphone
just admit that you fucked up somehow
>>53501231
I can give you my EQ later on today to try. Some people here liked it a lot and I've made small adjustments to it since I last shared it.
>>53500840
>HD 600 is the most neutral and in my opinion the best sounding open back without equalization
It's not difficult to believe if you never listened to a DT880 or a K7- series.
>>53501250
>better choices
I prepare Mad Dogs instead. ^.:.)
>sure you do :^)
fucker don't make me timepost in the morning.
Don't act like a kid about it.
>>53501231
>>53500840 says that they're shit compared to HD600. You should feel bad now.
>>53501265
>$1500
Try $800 brand new w/ warranty Americuck
>>53501335
That'd be great.
>>53501145
Why would you recommend the MSR7 for gaming when it's closed back?
>beyershills
>snapheisers
>>53500814
>What is your use case anyway? Maybe in-ears would do better or a set of loudspeakers?
Apartment dweller, so speakers are a no. There's often something loud going on so, such as construction, so I need both an open and closed pair.
>>53501440
you might mean 800 pounds
theres no way those things are 800 brand new in anywhere except britain
>>53501472
The bass range(20-125hz) doesn't overlap the rest of frequency range. It's kind of a big deal for games like CS where you have to hear the footsteps over the gunshots.
>>53501543
But the soundstage for closed headphones are shit compared to something open or even semi-open.
>>53501483
>akgay fagboys
>>53501515
No, literally ~$810 on the check. In any case, I like how they sound as it is, I just want to mod them out of curiosity, since people say it's better.
>>53501568
>akgay fagboys
>>53501573
where are you from and do you have a source for that price?
>>53501365
I have listened to both. Never liked a K7-series AKG. DT880 is quite good but the response in upper mids and treble peak aren't to my liking. Both of those are different kinds of bright and harsh and K701 and K702 were both considerably bass light.
>>53501623
Doctorhead store in Moscow: https://doctorhead.ru/product/sennheiser_hd_800/
At current exchange rates and the discount they gave me it works out to about that much. surprises everywhere when traveling abroad.
>>53501472
Someone explain this "closed back not good for gaming" -meme?
>>53501766
All closed headphones are shit
>>53501766
They tend to have a narrower soundstage and muddier bass as well, both things that games could otherwise benefit from. Even if you're using surround software, it's only as effective as the headphone's natural soundstage.
>>53501802
Untrue but let's assume perfect response.
>>53501817
And the "soundstage" is a good thing how? I can think of immersion due to the sense of space in some games.
>>53501565
Open yes definitely but, semi-open leeks exactly like open headphones would do. Don't believe this is "semi-open" terminology
>closed headphones are shit
Does that include the K550/553 also for being loose on cramping force compared to the MSR.
A good seal on the head helps a few bits for the soundstage.
>>53501766
Usually depends on people's preferences.
Let's say he doesn't want to annoy Neighbors then he picks closed instead.
>>53501864
Assuming the question is actually about positional audio queues, I think that soundstage would help with that, but it's been too long without true HRTF in games for it to matter imo. Maybe the coming of VR will fix that. My 7506's sound just fine while playing games.
>>53501913
I'm on a boat which doesn't really see any benefits in soundstage in terms of positional audio. I see flat response as something far more important if you want to hear what is going on in the game world accurately. A proper HRTF built into the game would have benefits but I've never seen it done well.
>>53501709
even at 850 american they're cheaper than here in australia
>>53501871
>Open yes definitely but, semi-open leeks exactly like open headphones would do. Don't believe this is "semi-open" terminology
Wrong. My roommate has grado open headphones - sr125. They leak like fucking hell. I have porta pros - semi open - they barely leak.
Beats Solo 2 for $60. Worth?
>inb4 fake
trusted site. And i mainly listen to hip hop
>Budget
About $100 AUD, not 100% fixed though around there.
>Location
Australia
>Preferred type of headphone
In-ear
>Comfort level
As comfy as possible.
>Preferred music
All types, but a lot of rap. However also listen to jazz, rock, soul etc.
>Past headphones
The ones that came with my HTC One m8 lel.
Thanks /g/
If I want to buy Piston 3s on Amazon in Euroland, how can I make sure I don't get fake ones?
>>53503178
fake or heavily damaged
they're decent
have a look at xpt100
Iv had the original ath-m50 but I seem to have lost them. So I impulse purchased the ath-m70x and then realized I'm a baby casual and muh bass. So now do I get Beyer Dt770 studio 80 ohms or athm50x. I don't mind getting a portable amp if its truley worth it. Powering with Nexus 6p
>>53503372
bigbargainonline on ebay, personally bought from them & they're real
I'm in EU
>>53503467
You should have just EQ'd the bass on the m70x with Equalizer APO
>tfw summer is soon here and im gonna need new headphones again
Just got my KZ-ED4 in the mail. Anyone else having the problem that they don't really fit that well. Are there caps i can use or something?
>>53503467
It's not worth I got the 250 ohms and I'm still fine without an portable amp.
Thinking about to get some low range in ears and currently looking at the shure se215. High isolation and warm sound should be delivered with these right?
>crtl+f Zeos/Zreviews
>0 results
Are you guys pleb or something? Why don't you guys listen to good advice?
>>53503621
/hpg/ are just a bunch of inbred troglodytes who don't take anyone else's advice except their own.
>>53501707
> K702
> bass light
Sub-bass is as rolled-off as the HD600, which has even less sub-bass than K702 according to some sources, but K702's mid-bass is great. People simply consider it lacking because headphones like the HD600 and the DT 880 boost the mid-bass around 90-200 Hz. I had a Fidelio X2 before, but the K702's mid-bass don't sound much lighter in comparison.
>>53503467
Agreed on the anon above. Just EQ out the treble or maybe mids on your M70x's. I have dollar store IEMs and I use the 5 band EQ on my mp3 player and it's scary on how close it sounds like to my other expensive headphone while without EQ it sounds like ass and AM radio like. I use them for side sleeping beaters in case I break them.
>>53503682
Because the rest of the response of K702 is more elevated than HD 600 the overall tonality definitely comes off as bass light.
>>53503682
>>53503738
K702 has too much midbass and strong treble dips. It's pretty dull sounding.
>>53503593
>Thinking about to get some low range in ears and currently looking at the shure se215. High isolation and warm sound should be delivered with these right?
Pls don't ignore me senpai.
I did a detachable cable mod on my ath m50, everything's working when I'm listening to music or videos but when I plug it into a digital piano the sound is muffled, like a lowpass filter
I thought there was something wrong with those particular frequencies but there's nothing discernibly wrong when listening to piano pieces on youtube. Nothing strange when listening to a frequency sweep either.
>>53503467
Maybe my head is just too big but my dt770s headbands broke. Not to mention the velour pads get dirty and crusty very fast.
So far my only headphones that lasted over a year are the ath-m50's. Though they have a very weak hinge on the cups held back by only a thin strip of plastic
>>53495276
>>53497833
>anime
Fuck off and die. stick your akg's up your ass
What are some good BASS headphones around 30-40$
>>53503818
Bumperino
>>53503980
Did your beyerkeks rape your ears too hard?
>7.1 headset
is there a proper explanation for why so many relatively high end headphones appear in all these anime images? Do mangaka just look up random cans for reference, or is it how they're marketed in japan?
>>53500848
just go all in and buy the hd800 if you're gonna go into those price ranges, it has amazing build quality.
>>53504449
NOBODY?
>>53503738
> more elevated
Do you mean in the treble? The dips at 2.5 kHz and 7kHz aren't that powerful to be honest and they don't overshadow the bass at all.
>>53503751
You mistyped DT880.
Oh boy buddy ol pals. Its me again, your probably dont know but i jus lurk and stuff. Anyways, I had a pair of MM30i's and they were fuckin bomb. I loved those pairs I had em for about 2 years and then I lost them. I wanna get something new but not something too expensive like under 40 CAD. Any help /g/?
>>53504961
Cmon I have to buy headphone today and Ii dont want them to be gimmick headset with "deep bass"
>>53505183
get BEATS solo 2
So my T20RP Mk3 planar memephones came in today. I immediately tried different pads, as the stock pads are pretty shallow, and I settled for Shure SRH1840 memory foam velours for comfort's sake. SRH840 pads put some uncomfortable pressure on my jaw.
I taped off two baffle vents in an attempt to get bass extension back up, but this made the bass a bit overpowering and bloated.
To compensate, I taped off the rear cup vents with masking tape and poked a small hole in the bottom vent with a pencil in order to try to control the bass a bit more.
I'm fairly satisfied for now, although I'd still like some more mids (or slightly less V-shape, I suppose). I have noise dampening foam on the way, so I'll be able to experiment a bit more when that arrives.
>>53504449
HD681 Evo
>>53505392
Have them and the bass is not enough but they are also too small for my head.
>>53504841
>not having 7 ears
Are they decent?
I use Marley brand headphones, but mine just kicked the bucket after a good 2 years of service. I think they were the Positive Vibration over the ear variety. I'm looking for a good replacement at a price range up to around $100 bucks.
>>53505827
>eardildos
>>53505843
>buying on-ears for looks
>>53505861
>eardildos
So they sound like sex?
Anyone with a Rotel amplifier here? Specially RA11 or RA12? How is the built in headphone amp, would it run a pair of Hifiman 400s?
>>53505861
Okay, then what over-ear headphones are the ones for me?
So now that the dust has settled.
Should i get the HD800s or just get the HD800?
>>53506023
According to >>53500840, which is the most brilliant person here, the HD800 sucks compared to the HD600. Get the HD600, it's the best open headphone in production, it's detailed, it has great bass, it's neutral, it's better than speakers, it's by the best audio company in the world, nothing can beat them, even Harman uses HD600 to test headphones, everything else has fake details compared to them, their natural balance is absolutely amazin, they sound more natural than everything else.
>>53506023
get the 800s, it has better assthetics
Just received two headphones I bought online.
A Genius GX Lychas, and a Phillips Shibuya SHL5205.
The Genius I was going to use for the computer, mostly gaming. I just tried it out and the mic barely captures my voice, and the right ear is not working.
The Phillips one I bought to listen audios in my phone while outside. I don't even know if the volume thing works, because it is only one button and it doesn't seem to make any difference. I have to hear everything on my phone very low because otherwise the sound is saturated.
Pretty dissapointed, first time I buy some nice headphones to give myself a treat and be able to enjoy nice quality music, audios, and games, it was a total failure.
>>53505490
>>53505970
I doubt anything will support your need for bass
Thanks /g/, got my Panasonic HJE's today. Decent for what they are, not amazed, pretty bassy and a lot of noise seems to leak out but for £6 it's fine
>>53506346
You need to EQ them with Equalizer APO or else they're worse than shit. Have you done this? I can share my EQ file if needed
>>53506346
With a little EQ they can become as good as the HD600, which are the best headphones in the world and are 50 times more expensive. Good job anon!
>>53497966
giles corey, grouper and suffocate ffs - nice taste my man
A slightly updated guide. Added R70X, replaced K7xx with K702, adjusted some descriptions and pricing. Any comments?
>>53506023
HD 800S has better response due to the reduced 6kHz peak and comes with a balanced cable if you want that for whatever reason. Difference is small, up to you.
>>53506248
Should I try one more time and get new ones, or just give up entirely on headphones?
>>53506419
>>53506612
I haven't, truth be told I don't really even know how to.
>>53506801
It looks good to me. Consider that the Q701 is basically identical to the K702, the Q701 is more convenient in the USA, while the K702 is more convenient in EU.
>>53506880
Tell me what model HJE you have
>>53506914
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-RP-HJE125E-K-Earphones-Black/dp/B00CBU0IV8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458070266&sr=8-1&keywords=panasonic+hje125
I got these, I know some said I might as well go for the 120 but I saw the replies too late desu
>>53504552
>>53503818
>>53503593
I'm the drummer that usually shitposts. You won't be disappointed with these. I use them for drum monitoring and listening to music at work. Their isolation is amazing especially using the foam tips, the sound is great for the price too. I've never used any of the higher end SE but there is a reason these are the staple in gigging musicians IEM. Even professionals use these as a back up. Get em' desu senpai, they're great. (also the philips she3850 or wtf ever model it is) is sadly amazing at $10 for v-shaped.
>>53506981
You're definetly going to have to EQ those. Learn Equalizer APO mate
>>53506987
Finally an answer thanks.
Uhm do you recommend to get these Philips instead of the shure?
These http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-SHE3590BK-10-SHE3590-Headphones-black/dp/B007BOLAFW ?
>>53507025
Won't the Equaliser settings really just apply on one machine?
I said in the other thread, I just bought these as a temporary pair until I get my Piston 2's in about a month or so, is it worth it? Sounds like useful stuff but it's generally beyond me
>>53506822
First you bought a FUCKING HEADSET instead of headphone and microphone.Second if they dont work as intended return them FFS
>>53506264
There were this gaming headset that had really great bass but they are out of production.
>>53507132
Honestly, if all you're wanting is listening to music, I'd recommend the philips. I have both and while the se215 have excellent build quality (detachable cables, carrying pouch, valor cable) I can't justify telling you to spend $90 on them. Both of them are v-shaped to an extent and the philips are hidden gems that used to be recommended widely in this general.
>>53507159
>First you bought a FUCKING HEADSET
What's the difference? They are still headphones right?
>>53507322
They are the prebuild computers of headphones.
>>53507255
$90 extra**
The only downfall that I forgot to mention is microphonics with the philips. You can hear the cable jiggling sometimes, but it isn't that annoying. With the shure, there is very little and they use an over the ear fit that help with musicians playing live or drummers. I ordered 2 pair last year off amazon just to have around the house/mowing the lawn. For $10 i'd just get those and if you aren't impressed, get the shure
>>53507357
Uh, ok. So for next time I buy one. How can I tell the difference between headphones and headsets?
>>53507415
headphones - no mic, always 2.0 sound, accurately reproduces stereo sound, which is what 99% of shit is mixed in
headsets - overpriced for quality, microphone attached, virtual surround sound sounds fake and gimmicky after listening to a solid 2.0 pair of headphones
>>53507369
That's what I'm going to do now thank you.
>just to have around the house/mowing the lawn.
So they isolate fine?
Im here for the memes
>>53507438
Wow, you guys sure are fancy. I bought them because they looked good, and since I don't know much about audio I just took a shoot.
They are both 20-2k Hz, 102dB, and 3Ohm. Is that good?
>>53507542
stop
