Welcome to /flt/, we are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU + Linux, you can:
1) Install a GNU + Linux on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
2) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU + Linux experience".
3) Dual-boot GNU + Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU + Linux)
4) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU + Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU + Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will literally work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
>>53507865
First for use the fucking wiki OP
>>53507865
>Install a GNU + Linux on a VM
>>53507894
GNO
>Shell pasta:
The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/
The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/
The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html
Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml
The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/
Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/
>>53507417
Can I report this to launchpad somehow?
>>53507894
>>53507928
you know that people can see the amount of individual IPs in a thread right?
are you shitty apps guy trying to force an anti-GNU agenda?
>>53507968
you should have logs of the crash that you can use for reporting it.
>Filepicker pasta:
Tippers:
https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/jkisielewicz/gtk2-filepicker-iconview/
Amazuntu:
https://launchpad.net/~helkaluin/+archive/ubuntu/gtk2-filechooser-iconview
Arsch Linux:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view/
Absolute Madmen:
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/01213036b58e510dc074
>>53507999
I couldn't get back into the OS to obtain the logs though, the kernel panic won't let me past that point, I've just been wiping the system in an effort to try and diagnose the problem and it is to do with btrfs and happens after I try to install the nvidia drivers.
>>53507999
I posted the comment about not using the wiki OP before I noticed the modified one the current OP is using doesn't even make sense.
You faggots complain if people use trips, and complain if anyone posts more than once without waving a fucking flag to say "here is a list of the everything else I have already posted".
Shitty apps guy never posted or promoted the wiki OP either you fucking mong. Get your memes straight lad.
>>53508052
>Install dolphin
>Install Qupzilla
>Enjoy kde filepicker in your browser
Does this work?
Currently on KDE right now, Can someone test this shit for me?
>>53508120
chroot in with your installation disc (or something like system rescue CD)
>>53508120
well then a picture of the screen might be the only way.
if you boot into a live distro, can you access the logs?
>>53508184
shouldn't qupzilla have this by default as it is qt?
>>53508145
i asked if you were shitty apps guy, not accused you of being him. and i am fairly sure he started using the wiki as he made a list with games and wanted to put it on there.
Weechat chops my long messages up in to tiny little ones, much smaller than say, hexchat, does. Why? How fix.
>>53508256
Actually Qt's native file picker is even shittier than gtk file picker. I just hope qupzilla prefers dophin over Qt. It doesn't take Qt in KDE, it takes dolphin by default
>>53508271
you mean this? https://github.com/freshprince/weechat-fish/issues/15
>>53508298
Could be related but I'm not using fish, zsh.
>>53508241
>>53508256
Didn't even try using a live cd/sysresccd but I could. Dunno if I can be fucked now that I wiped again and I have everything how I want. Guess I should do it for the sake of science.
What logs should I get, and will they be easily available to me, or will I need to fuck around to obtain them?
>>53508292
thanks for informing me, i never used qt when being able to avoid it.
try it but i don't think it will work without tinkering.
>>53508359
if you didn't encrypt everything they will be easily obtainable. if you have the time and nerves for it, it could help the development a bit.
I just got a new job and while they don't require that I use it, they only support Ubuntu 14.04, so I might switch.
I have been using plasma 5 for a while, and I am not sure I want to go back to kde4.
What would you recommend?
Installing a ppa so I get the newest KDE and still keep all the old libraries that is supported or install another DE?
I don't care about bloat, but would like to keep my transition as stable as possible.
>>53508765
>they only support Ubuntu 14.04
What are they even doing to "support" it?
Is dmcrypt plain mode the right way to go if I want plausible deniability?
What benefits does LUKS even give?
Just found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0rGyajWdlg
>>53508899
>Is dmcrypt plain mode the right way to go if I want plausible deniability?
how's that giving you plausible deniability?
normal people don't have drives with random data on it.
>>53507865
what do you think he's doing on that laptop when he's out and about
>>53508994
reading mail, responding to literally all of it and maintaining his website i guess
Why I cannot ALT + TAB to switch window when I play full screen game in Xubuntu?
>>53508987
Because random data on a drive != encrypted data.
There's no way I could deny having encryption when there's a LUKS header right fucking there.
I can deny having encryption if the file or drive has zero evidence of being encrypted.
Plus, it wouldn't be too hard to hide the encrypted data, it would be quite easy to file the drive with random data, create a plain filesystem with normal files on it at the start of the drive only taking up a part of the drive, then place the actual encrypted container right after where the filesystem ends or at least somewhere after it.
>>53509118
>Because random data on a drive != encrypted data.
nope, prosecutor will exactly argue that.
if you don't have any plausible counter-arguments, any judge will side with him.
>>53509106
probably because the game blocks it. did you try borderless fullscreen?
whats the best distro for under 2 GB of STORAGE SPACE
Not 2GB of ram. im trying to install it alongside windows on a 32GB SSD
>>53509189
>I messed up when creating the filesystem, giving it a little less space than the drive can actually hold, but I only realized it after I put all my files on it, and I didn't really need the extra space so I didn't worry about it.
And as for why there's random data at the end:
>I always make sure to completely wipe drives I bought off ebay, you never know what kind of data they may have previously held.
>>53509228
something minimal like gentoo (if you cross-compile) or debian minimal (if you make --no-install-recommends the default)
>>53508884
Their software doesn't compile on newer libraries. Don't know why. But I am not in charge of porting it. Somebody should though... 16.04 is about to be released...
Can someone give me a decent MPV config? I havent been on linux in ahwile
also where and what file do I make?
>>53509225
Well it is supposed to be able switch regardless of the application isn't it? I used Linux Mint and other Ubuntu distros and I have no problem to switch window over my Steam games. Only in Xubuntu I cannot switch window.
>>53509356
applications can make this not work. i use xfce aswell and in my games it works.
>>53509281
You don't build in clean change roots?
>leave desktop on overnight
>come back to it
>monitors are in sleep
>pressing keys doesn't wake it up
>can't ssh into it
what the fuck happened?
>>53509421
This happened in all full screen games. Danganronpa, DotA2, Civ5. I have no problem like this with MATE or Unity.
>>53509341
~/.config/mpv/mpv.conf
>>53509483
does it work with supertuxkart? if it does then it's a game fault, if it doesn't you should check out what's wrong with your installation of xfce.
>>53509467
Kernel crashed.
What kernel version and distro? this is happened to me a few times on new kernels, right now I'm on LTS 4.1.19 because 4.4.5 currently has this problem for me.
>>53509517
4.4.5-1-ARCH
>>53509243
cryptsetup devs themselves believe that a Deniable File System is impossible.
way too many infoleaks:
https://gitlab.com/cryptsetup/cryptsetup/wikis/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#5-security-aspects
https://www.schneier.com/cryptography/paperfiles/paper-truecrypt-dfs.pdf
>>53508359
>>53508422
what logs do I need to get? none of the ones available in /var/log/ mention the damn kernel panic, so I don't know if the whole exercise was even worth it
I also know exactly why the kernel panic happened, it was the processor microcode after all, not the nvidia drivers
So I guess I could live without the microcode and use btrfs anyway
>>53509563
Same, except I was on 4.4.5-1-zen on Arch Linux.
I'm glad that I'm not the only one.
Can you tell me what hardware you have so we can get a clue as to what may be causing it?
I have an Intel i3 550 and AMD HD 6870 using open source radeon drivers and Dell motherboard.
It seems to happen at random times after around ~6 hours of operation, sometimes less, sometimes more.
>>53509510
I solve this there is setting in Window Manager. I changed the default ALT + TAB to switch window instead of cycle window.
>>53509684$ inxi -Fz
System: Host: spaceheater Kernel: 4.4.5-1-ARCH x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Gnome 3.18.4 Distro: Arch Linux
Machine: System: Supermicro product: X8DA3 v: 1234567890
Mobo: Supermicro model: X8DA3 v: 2.01 Bios: American Megatrends v: 2.1a date: 04/06/2012
CPU(s): 2 Quad core Intel Xeon X5570s (-HT-MCP-SMP-) cache: 16384 KB
clock speeds: max: 2934 MHz 1: 2400 MHz 2: 2000 MHz 3: 2933 MHz 4: 1733 MHz 5: 2667 MHz 6: 2934 MHz
7: 2934 MHz 8: 2000 MHz 9: 1600 MHz 10: 1600 MHz 11: 1733 MHz 12: 1733 MHz 13: 1600 MHz 14: 1600 MHz
15: 2133 MHz 16: 1733 MHz
Graphics: Card-1: NVIDIA GK104 [GeForce GTX 660 Ti]
Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Juniper XT [Radeon HD 5770]
Display Server: N/A driver: N/A Resolution: 115x55
Audio: Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Juniper HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5700 Series]
driver: snd_hda_intel
Card-2 NVIDIA GK104 HDMI Audio Controller driver: vfio-pci
Card-3 Intel 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.5-1-ARCH
Network: Card-1: Intel 82573E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper) driver: e1000e
IF: enp3s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Card-2: Intel 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: e1000e
IF: enp4s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Info: Processes: 344 Uptime: 29 min Memory: 13811.9/24169.9MB Init: systemd
Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35
>>53509867
Well there's nothing we have in common here.
The problem must be non hardware related.
>>53510004
I'm using vfio-pci for pci passthrough, you mentioned that you're running a zen kernel, which I think are related
>>53507894
>the fucking wiki OP
wiki OP is a faggot
- "Jimmy Savile smoking a cigar" never happens
- aswell as the "overuse of the /pol/ and 8ch/pol/ term "cuck""
- has problems with calling the core OS by it's corret name: GNU/Linux
nope, /flt/ is /flt/ - the community, and we post what we want, not what wiki OP wants it to be
>>53510036
My motherboard doesn't have an IOMMU, so I'm not using vfio-pci.
And I think you're getting confused with xen, which isn't zen.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernels#Official_packages
The Linux Zen kernel is a set of patches to the Linux kernel to improve desktop performance.
>>53510081
I'm with this guy. kek
>>53510113
well, shit
good thing nothing terribly important runs off my desktop
>>53510081
>has problems with calling the core OS by it's """"""""""corret"""""""""" name: GNU/Linux
>""""""""""the"""""""""" core OS
There are lots of OS combinations that include the linux kernel. Many of them do not include GNU whatsoever.
There is no single "core OS", so there is no single correct name.
Linux and Linux alone is the most encompassing.
>>53509228
i installed ubuntu once onto a terminal with a 1G flash rom
just a case of starting with core/base and installing only what you need on top of that
i'd use arch now, though
also, try btrfs with zlib compression, it'll save some disk space
>>53509228
Arch base install(base not base-devel)
Is ~250mb
Neat. I'm on Arch now. If nothing breaks, I could use it like this quite a while.
I've got 2 NIC's, why can't I just pci passthrough one of them to a VM?
I've tried, but it won't show up in dmesg under vfio
Would I use GPT or DOS when partitioning the 1TB hdd on my laptop when installing Arch? That will be the only OS on it.
>>53510458
>There are lots of OS combinations that include the linux kernel. Many of them do not include GNU whatsoever.
Name some other than Alpine and Android.
>>53510929
gpt for efi
dos for bios
>>53510936
I'm using BusyBox/Linux.
You can also use:
cqlibc/Linux
musl/Linux
etc
>>53510458
How about Trisquel, Parabola, etc? :^)
>>53510994
Doesn't change the fact that we mainly discuss GNU/Linux distributions here.
I use redhat at work and at school. What should install at home? Something other than redhat.
>>53511129
But forcing me to call it gnu/Linux is the same to you as calling it just Linux.
You cant want it one way and not accept every way
>>53510929
read the wiki, watch out for EFI because you need to mount /boot on a FAT EFI partition and other stuff...
>>53511143
Nobody is forcing you to call your Busybox GN/Linux, enjoy your stay in the GNU/Linux thread.
>>53511161
Its not gnu/Linux though
Its Linux
>>53510936
You could argue that every new version of Android counts as it's own new combination.
Also plenty of embedded systems that use the linux kernel but use cutdown utils to save space, so no GNU (or so little GNU that including it in the name is silly).
>>53511093
What about them?
Are their users unable to find the large font [Start a New Thread] option at the top of the board?
>>53511190
We don't discuss the kernel here.
>>53511234
Fuck off anti GNU faggot. You're cancer and you know it.
>>53511267
"gnu/Linux thread"
"we dont discuss the kernel"
So you only talk a bout hurd?
I dont think ANYONE has a HURD problem as NOONE uses it
I use redhat at work and at school. What should install at home? Something other than redhat
Linux is capable of loading a.out, elf binaries and using a libc all by itself. It also performs many of the device functions by itself too, such as connecting to wireless networks or graphics management. GNU is just the frontend that makes operations easier like heirloom and busybox are. Don't get tricked into thinking "GNU is an OS!"
>>53511301
Fuck off.
I am dual booting.
I have Windows and linux installed.
If I delete Linux partitions. Will Windows boot or wil grub still exist?
>>53510994
you are conveniently forgetting that you can swap out the kernel too; kFreeBSD, HURD, Linux-libre, etc.
and that's just one single component you have to replace. Swapping out GNU requires replacing tons of different programs. In any case, the only reason you have the freedom to swap out any component you want is because of the GNU project's ideals.
>>53511306
Fedora ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>53511280
That's strange, here's me thinking that forcing GNU into the OP to the point it no longer makes grammatical sense is cancer.
It's /FLT/, not /FaGLeT.
>>53511301
I guarantee you more people talk about GNU programs in these threads than the Linux kernel. Particularly bash and coreutils.
>>53511280
>>53511343
Such eloquent rebuttals :^)
>>53511368
Um no.I can adhear to any mit/bsd(you know the license4 out decades before stallman was a thing) license i want and still not ever have to use anything stallman ever shit out of his mouth.
>>53511368
What would you rather transplant, just your brain, or a number of vital organs from your torso?
Surely a brain transplant is easier, it's much smaller compared to the rest, and changing one thing is easier than changing lots of things :^)
>>53511368
>tons of different programs
How does bsd do it?
How does ios do it?
How does android do it?
oh wait
What is this: "Mount the root partition to the /mnt directory of the live system"
Is that the boot partition?
>>53511397
Im pretty sure i see more zsh rice issues then bash issues.
How low do you want to go on the totem pole?
So ANY code ANYWHERE DERIVES from gnu?
>>53511353
Grub will still be there. Check how to restore Windows bootloader depending on your version then when you have it figured out and your PC boots directly in Windows, delete Linux partitions.
>>53511447
what do bsd and ios have to do with it?
>>53511467
think of it as mounting the entire disk you want to install Linux on, if you have /boot on a separate partition then you will have to mount that as well.
>>53511510
They dont use gnu and are well off from ever wanting to use them,or programs which derive from them
>>53511520
>I don't get it
>>53511437
>I can adhear to any mit/bsd(you know the license4 out decades before stallman was a thing) license
>MIT License
> Published 1988[citation needed]
>Prior BSD License
>Published 1988
>In the mid-1980s, the GNU project produced copyleft free software licenses for each of its software packages. An early such license (the "GNU Emacs Copying Permission Notice") was used for GNU Emacs in 1985,[7] with subsequent revisions in 1986, 1987 and 1988 taking the name of "GNU Emacs General Public License".[8] Likewise, the similar GCC General Public License was applied to the GNU Compiler Collection, which was initially published in 1987.
>mit/bsd
>out decades before stallman was a thing
>>53511520
they also don't use the linux kernel, so what the fuck are you on about?
>>53511542
You're a true stallmanist.
>>53511549
>EMACS
>EMACS
>EMACS
If ONE program uses it,who fucking cares. MIT/BSD were fully adapted and used.
There are people in this thread who don't know that they have to thank RMS that todays BSD is free.
>>53511565
and...? you're still wrong about them coming first, and it sure as fuck wasn't decades earlier
>>53511583
Show me the first program that was not gnu that used any sort of license from stallman.
You Cant
If i write up:
Anons best copymiddle liscense in all of the universe kek lol boxxy plus pocky is loooove Liscense.
And only ONE PERSON/PROGRAM uses it,who fucking cares lol
>>53511601
you're straying from the argument, that's irrelevant
>Anons best copymiddle liscense in all of the universe kek lol boxxy plus pocky is loooove Liscense.
oh, underaged
Isn't this the best browser? Secure, lightweight, keyboard driven, not a wannabe bloatware like luakit.
I'm serious, try it.
>>53511631
>irrelevent
You mean you cant provide a single instance?
Does anybody here use virtualization software on their GNU/Linux machine to run Windows on it with PCI-E and other passthroughs so they can play high-end video games?
This is the future. Use GNU/Linux normally for everyday activities, then you go into the non-free Windows sandbox to play games and Telemetry spyware shit won't matter because, according to them, you do nothing but play video games on Windows.
I like how stallman mainly goes to shitskin poo in loo countries on his adventures
>>53511647
a single instance of the first one? there is only one instance, and i'm not going to dig around to find out exactly what the first one was, because it's irrelevant. the MIT and BSD licenses exist BECAUSE of what stallman started
>>53511720
>being this underage
I hope this anti GNU thing is just general 4kids trolling and you guys aren't serious.
>>53511712
Which video games do you mean?
Unity/Video Game
Unreal/Video Game
Source/Video Game
?
>>53511712
>implying the NSA doesn't know how to break a sandbox
Remember:
Ignore Microsoft/anti-Linux trolls.
Ignore BSD/anti-GNU trolls.
Ignore anti-Upstart/anti-OpenRC/anti-Mir trolls.
Point them as bait and share/create copypasta when in need to dispel doubts.
Okay I have a Windows ISO
All I need to do is just run it and that'll wipe Linux completely from my PC right?
I decided to use fedora for my desktop pc.
But I have a question are there any disadvantages If I decided to use a fedora spin: Fedora KDE.
Over the default GNOME Shell - workstation distribution?
Are there application limitations between different desktop environments?
Which one of the two would make me more happy and satisfied with the system? Hardware wise - I do pretty well on that side so there is no problem related to resource usage.
And If I take either of them and I update gnome shell to latest version or kde to 5.5 + would it fuck up the distribution? Are the desktop environments modified for the specific distributions?
>>53511799
Get two heavy industrial hammers tie them up to a central point on your pavement.
Lot hook each of them parallel to each other on the walls, and use some ropes to unhook them fast as needed.
Now position yourself in the middle of the room, also position your body so that the hammers will both meet at your head position.
Inhale deeply, relax and release the hooks - enjoy the experience, thank you.
Anyone know where I can get an archive of all the win8 fonts?
>>53511723
>>53511631
>>53511583
>>53511510
>>53511368
>>53511343
>>53511267
>>53511161
In March 2003, SCO filed suit against IBM alleging that IBM's contributions to various free software, including FSF's GNU, violated SCO's rights. While FSF was never a party to the lawsuit, FSF was subpoenaed on November 5, 2003.[11] During 2003 and 2004, FSF put substantial advocacy effort into responding to the lawsuit and quelling its negative impact on the adoption and promotion of free software.[12][13]
>>53511839
You should be able to just install another DE and swap to it. There aren't really application limitations, beyond the fact that the general feel/aesthetic is meant to fit together within a certain DE. You should still be able to run GNOME applications when you're using KDE.
>>53511723
>>53511631
>>53511583
>>53511510
>>53511368
>>53511343
>>53511267
>>53511161
The FSF holds the >>>>>>>>>>>copyrights<<<<<<<<<<< on many pieces of the GNU system, such as GNU Compiler Collection. As holder of these copyrights, it has the authority to enforce the copyleft requirements of the GNU General Public License (GPL) when copyright infringement occurs on that software.
>>53511891
>>53511906
i don't understand your point
>>53511799
Actually yes. Windows is a nigger who doesn't care if theres another OS or GRUB. It claims the whole thing for itself for best surveillance.
>>53511639
Kind of neat. Default keybindings are throwing me off, though, what with being vi-like but with some differences here and there. Way too much for me to bother getting into it and setting up my own.
I could see myself using it on something really low-powered like a Raspberry Pi, but I'm sticking with Firefox with VimFx and all my other extensions.
>Secure
Is there anything special about it?
>>53511922
True stallmanist comprehension level.
>>53511949
so...you weren't making a point?
>>53511949
>stallmanist
troll detected
>>53511949
With "stallmanist" you refer to being aware that the GNU/Linux community is about freedom?
>>53511972
>>53511996
Im part of the Linux community. You will not force your gnu tools in to my distro.I will use busybox/musl/cqlibc, forcing me to call it gni/Linux,when i am not using gnu,but using Linux,is asinine.And is no different to you when people call it just Linux in your philosophies
>>53512032
Nobody said it should be called GNU/Linux if you're not using GNU software.
>>53512051
this
>>53512051
>GNU/Linux community
Blatently putting a blanket association to being linux with gnu,sure is
>>53512032
>Im part of the Linux community
No you are not, BSD scum. We had your trolling before in this thread, go away.
>>53512082
Just because you're not using GNU/Linux doesn't change the fact that Linux by itself is not an operating system.
>>53512126
It is
>>53512133
>meme image of fake accounts on google plus proves my point
I installed baobab. When I plug a USB stick it opens baobab instead of Nautilus.
DROPPED.
It's the same fucking asshole, THE SAME. Shitting thread after thread like a robot. How is this idiot not shill.
Hey guys, I need to download linux onto my personal computer so that I can write and test things that I've written for a hadoop cluster that I'm going to be working with.
My personal computer is a MBP with about 80GB free at the moment. I am interested in a dual partition. I don't plan on using my linux partition for anything other than hadoop testing and developing.
First - is there anything I need to know before I set up the gnu/linux partition? I assume I have enough free disk space. Additionally, what distro should I use: are there any that would be especially good to use with hadoop and the hadoop ecosystem? Any comments?
Thanks
>>53512230
lel, normies: http://www.howtogeek.com/189036/android-is-based-on-linux-but-what-does-that-mean/
>>53512133
I'd just like to interject for a moment. The person you're referring as
Linus has, in fact, done just a kernel for the GNU operating system, or as
I've recently taken to calling it, nothing. Linus is not a programmer unto
himself, but rather another leech in a fully functioning software team made
useful by GNU developers.
Many computer users run his lackluster version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the Finnish reject
who is widely popular today is often called a "programmer", and many of
his followers are not aware that he stole his ideas from the GNU system,
developed by the GNU project.
There really is a Linus Torvalds, and these people are worshiping him,
but he is just another attention whore in the software world. Linus is an
egotist: someone who wastes resources to develop his knockoff kernel that
you run. Linus is not an essential person in the project and is useless by
himself; he can only function in the shadow of a complete software team.
>>53512133
>RMS
>google account
>as Richard Stallman
>>53512278
>or as I've recently taken to calling it, nothing
>>53512278
Linus made git over the span of a few weeks. In fact, most things Linus has actually contributed towards have had very quick development times for stable initial releases.
>Meanwhile hurd
>>53512126
Linux by itself is not an operation system, it's just a kernel.
>>53512433
that's what i said
>the fact that Linux by itself is not an operating system
Can anyone recommend me some good beginners books on learning bash/shell scripting?
>>53512476
Sorry I see blurry - I just woke up 10 minutes ago, and It's around 3:58 am
>>53512506
the last link in the OP
>>53512544
>3:58 am
Holy shit. It's happening!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DR. STALLMAN!
>>53512552
>>53512570
Oh man, I really messed up, sorry guys.
>>53507865
>Calling a distro just "linux" is >>bad<< because it doesn't give fair credit to GNU
>Linux is just a kernel anyway, therefore we shall call a generic distro GNU + Linux (lol who cares about X contributions anyway).
>Oh wait, there are plenty of distros that have linux but no GNU, now what do we call those??? Can't call them just "linux" because it's just a kernel.
>Oh fuck it, call them GNU + Linux anyway
How can you take advice about your freedoms from a man who doesn't think the creator of a distro should get to decide how they name their own fucking stuff?
I don't kick in your door, and tell you that you cat's name is actually Jeffrey, not Carlton like you thought, because I have a hamster called Carlton and no two animals can ever have the same name.
Much besides the point, I have been owning animals in this street much longer than you so you stole the idea to "have pets" from me.
>>53512681
>implying neo /g/
>>53512690
Nigger a distro is actually a distro, not a kernel, not a operating system. It's a collection of everything and should be called by it's name, eg. Arch, Debian, etc. The core Operating system is GNU using the Linux kernel, the default torvalds one, or deblotted.
inb4 busybox+alpine fags
>>53512757
you're in after them
How do I dopragma table_info(X)without it looking like complete unreadable garbage in sqlite3? I want an actual table shaped table.
>>53512757
too late
>>53511765
Do they? Can it be done?
>>53512620
happy birthday dr. stallman
>>53512433
LInux is 90% of an operating system
By the rule of majority,it is an operating system
>>53511353
How to geek has an easy guide to follow
>>53512852
No, it's not. It's just a kernel.
Nobody would call NT an operating system too.
>>53511947
With a built-in ad blocker is lightweight and secure. dwb all the way.
>>53512955
>dwb all the way.
You like dead software?
>>53512727
So operating systems can only ever ever use gnu.And everything else is a lie?(busybox/musl/cqlibc)
What is it called without gnu,NAOP(Not An Operating System)
>>53512852
On average 9% of a distribution is taken by Linux kernel. and around 13% or more by GNU components..
Use linux alone and is faaaaaaar faaaaar from an traditional operating system.
Use Linux with GNU components many other components and desktop environment and you have a proper operating system such as ones in GNU/Linux distributions.
So GNU Components + Linux kernel over them = operating system.
>>53512974
>implying
Is just webkit what is not updated, but you already knew it didn't you?
>>53513005
>Is just webkit what is not updated
lol no son, the creator of dwb jumped ship ages ago. There is one person hacking patches in to it to basically make it build, it will never receive a proper update again.
>>53512995
Busybox + Linux Kernel + X11 + DE/WM = Operating system
Logic broken
>>53513031
Linux kernel + Bionic = Embedded system
Distributions and what you use on desktop / laptop is GNU/Linux - and the same logic applies.
>>53513028
Strange way to describe a developer, faggot.
I'm not sure what is your problem. Ah yes, the smear campaign against safe browser alternatives.
>>53513052
>enjoy your gnu/Linux thread
I will enjoy my Linux thread,because we have the same Linux kernel.
>>53513031
my distribution didn't come with X or a DE or WM
>>53513080
No we don't. I use GNU Linux-libre as kernel.
>>53513094
this
>>53513075
And that embedded system is Linux.
>desktop/laptop
Again you are incorrect, you do not need gnu to have a Desktop Enviornment on a Laptop or Home Computer
>>53513094
Which is a derivitive of the linux kernel,with its own third party patches
>Son, back in my days. we spend hours every day debating about the correct name for the GNU/Linux system.
>>53513081
Then you chose to interface with the LInux Kernel in a more personal level.
>>53513135
the Linux kernel isn't a person
>>53513156
It is a Kernel,and you are directily interfacing with it,to control your Operating System
will linux provide me with a safe space and respect my pronouns?
>>53513167
Are you referring to the kernel or the operating system?
>>53513179
linux and his pal gnu
>>53513166
See, a kernel isn't a operating system. Proven by yourself.
>>53513191
Then what are you interfacing with that will allow you to control and modify your system,without the use of the Linux Kernel>
>>53513166
The interface being the shell GNU bash.
>>53513220
What is sh
sh (or the Shell Command Language) is a programming language described by the POSIX standard. It has many implementations (ksh88, dash, ...). bash can also be considered an implementation of sh (see below).
Because sh is a specification, not an implementation, /bin/sh is a symlink (or a hard link) to an actual implementation on most POSIX systems.
What is bash
bash started as an sh-compatible implementation (although it predates the POSIX standard by a few years), but as time passed it has acquired many extensions. Many of these extensions may change the behavior of valid POSIX shell scripts, so by itself bash is not a valid POSIX shell. Rather, it is a dialect of the POSIX shell language.
>>53513238
Ok, and I couldn't do anything with the Linux kernel at all without a shell and other utilities.
>>53513077
>developer
He's not developing it though, he's struggling to keep it together. It's not the same thing.
>>53513108
Sure if you want to configure your fridge it's a great to go option, if you want to have an easy to use, functional desktop environment you'll have to allot use GNU components which will add up more as % compared to Linux.
So tell me what do you use for your desktop?
Android? BusyBox - WTF are you doing with it - it just provides some simple UNIX tools, so it's far from a functional desktop environment.
Basically yes you can run kernel with small libraries or with little or no GNU components, but it serves a different purpose than what we do with our desktop environments.
>>53513264
But you dont need GNU(GLIBC) to do that
>mfw the ylyl thread got more replies than the rms birthday thread
>>53513268
Go away troll.
>>53513273
but GNU is by far the most often used.
>>53513272
Busybox provides more then enough to have a equally sufficent install
You just wont have to deal with the biggest gas bag in the industry.
Is there a tool like the import command that captures a video instead of an image?
>>53507865
Which laptop is this?
>>53513345
ffmpeg
>>53513302
Missles and bombs are most used in warfare.
Should we use missles to stop a peaceful protest?
Hitler wanted the most common genes to be garnish to the future.,
>>53513345
ffmpeg -f x11grab -s <your resulution> -i <your display, usually :0.0> and other options.
>>53513356
>>53513386
I'd prefer it to act more like the import command, where you can select a specific area of the desktop with a cursor.
basically it would be
>import -v -[duration] filename.mp4
>press enter
>select specific area
>records specified desktop area to specified file for specified duration
>>53513295
>I don't know what I'm talking about so I'll try name calling
>>53513422
I don't know a way to do that with ffmpeg alone so I'm using <https://github.com/gvalkov/xrectsel>. Great tool, wich also fixes the glitches that show up sometimes when using import or scrot.
What is FreeBSD good for?
I know it is somewhere used in PS4 - obviously used in PS3, used by yahoo, usually mail providers and many other big companies.
But it's usually for data storage and manipulation.
So is it even recommended for a normal user? What can it do more special that makes it worth using?
>>53513457
Just script it like this:
geometry=$(xrectsel -g -s dash -b "#dddddd" -f "-s %wx%h -i :0.0+%x,%y")
ffmpeg -f x11grab -s $geometry ...
>>53513491
Well, fucked up the example but youll get the point.
>>53513457
So I would use that tool to get the coordinates of what I would want to capture, then use them in my ffmpeg command like >>53513386 Interesting. Sort of a round about way of doing it, but if there isn't a tool to actually just do it like import I guess that's the only option. Thanks.
>>53513440
>I claim to know more to disqualify people
Fuck off.
>>53513527
>I don't know the difference between developing a program and adding a simple patch
I use xfce, but wanted i3status functionality.
I need a status bar.
What's a good way to display the output of i3status without using i3?
>>53513580
lemonbar
>>53513575
>I claim to know an obvious fact
>while I claim the ignorance of others
Fuck off.
>>53513629
>claim
>claim
>hurr durr fuck off
Your reasoning skills are epic hun
>>53512974
>Isn't
>>53513028
>>53513268
>>53513440
>>53513575
You don't like it? Don't use it.
>meanwhile at the Friendly GNU + Linux Thread
>>53513643
Faggot troll.
>>53509228
my massive arch install is only like 1gb in size. You probably don't even need to go arch-level autism to get what you want
>>53513657
>Don't use it.
I don't, it's abandoned.
what's a distro that's fast, bug-free, easy, and has a more mac-user-friendly interface?
>>53513701
Why you lie? What do you gain? Is incredibly annoying, but that's it.
>>53513727
I no lie amigo, if you like dead software that's coolio
>>53513719
>asking /flt/ about distro opinions
inb4 >>53513677, round 2
>>53513719
I don't know buddy. But try Kubuntu.
>>53513719
ubuntu
>>53513771
Yeah, I think Unity is pretty macish.
>>53513743
>>53513793
dank meme brosef
>>53513719
Go with plain Ubuntu. Suits everything newfriend needs.
>/flt/ tonight
>>53513156
Not yet.
btw, when that tripfag re-appears, don't insult him, that faggot reported me and I won 3 days real life.
>>53513836
That's why I'm drunk as fuck. Cheers.
Why is my samba transfer only 25Mb/s?
my network is ok, my HDDs on zfs are new, my cpus are new.
it's on a gentoo machine on zfs
>>53507865
>GNU + Linux
It's a linux thread. We have a standard for a reason.
>>53513922
Well then, feel free to start discussing the kernel.
>>53513694
arch has never been a minimalist distribution. Splitting packages is rare compared to other distributions, and dependencies aren't made optional whenever possible. a Linux kernel with every module available and every feature enabled at least when there's no non-bloat related cost, feature-packed/complex GNU tools, nearly all optional features enabled across all the packages, etc.
Is there a way to create 4chan file timestamps using date?
I've heard installing a Windows OS onto a machine with Linux on it for dual-booting is much more annoying than putting Linux on a machine with Windows. Is it so much worse that, were I interested in having both on one computer and already have Linux on it, I should just take that off and start with Windows first?
(I'm aware of options like wine and VM's, no need to mention them.)
>>53513984
What do you mean?
>>53513985
Assuming with Linux you mean a GNU/Linux distro, I suggest to start running a distro in a VM, simply because there are SO MANY different distros, you may want to try them first, before you actually decide to use it for longer - then you can do a dual boot.
>>53513984date +%s%3N
>>53514075
t-thanks
>>53514059
Thank you for utilizing the proper language for dealing with GNU/Linux
Why is Richard Stallman so opposed to casual promiscuous sex?
>>53514124
Stop asking, start dancing.
>>53513985
Wipe Windows now. Hurry up, because everything you do is reported to Microsoft and the NSA. WIPE IT. Then install Ubuntu. Use it until you feel save enough to switch to a completely free distro such as Trisquel or Parabola.
>>53513985
I don't understand your question.
Been using Vim for years, but I want to try Emacs, because why not. Any useful links you guys can point me to?
>>53514059
>>53514191
Shoulda been clearer.
Xubuntu is currently my main OS and, if that ever changes, it'll be to another distro. I'm asking about setting up a dual-boot with Windows 7. Every guide I've seen says to start with an empty hard drive and installing Windows, then the distro. Has anyone here tried doing the opposite (that is, installing Windows after the distro), and was it much more difficult? Or is it simply not worth it to try doing it that way?
I mentioned VM's and wine because I'm not asking about having access to Windows programs within Xubuntu - I'm asking specifically about dual booting.
>>53507865
>finally get the chance to switch my desktop along with my laptop over to Linux
>coincidentally at the same time start learning C in my engineering class
>we're using visual studio on the windows machines
is there an IDE for linux that is similar to visual studio so I don't have to possibly suffer from any differences
should I just use a VM? I have never done this before
