Lee Sedol vs AlphaGo Game 5
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Man vs Machine Showdown
Google Deepmind's AlphaGo vs Lee Sedol 9p
Final Game 5 of 5
Current score AlphaGo 3-1 Lee Sedol
2 hours until the match begins
Official DeepMind Stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzpW10DPHeQ
Superior AGA Stream w/ Cho Hyeyeon 9p (Starts 1 hour after official stream):
https://www.youtube.com/c/usgoweb/live
Game 4 analysis :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaGo_versus_Lee_Sedol#Game_4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5gJ-pVo1gs
https://online-go.com/demo/117189
Lee Sedol defeats AlphaGo in masterful comeback – Game 4 :
https://gogameguru.com/lee-sedol-defeats-alphago-masterful-comeback-game-4/
4th match famous winning move :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCALyQRN3hw&t=11420s
>>53493803
Quite early for a thread. Still 2 hours to go.
>>53493803
Game 4
If Lee Sedol wins round 5, even though the AI will have won 3-2, I would say Sedol is better. The AI used new metagame, Sedol adapted.
>>53493803
Match 1 VOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFr3K2DORc8&t=28m08s
Match 1 AGA VOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZugVil2v4w
Match 1 Review: https://online-go.com/demo/114161
Match 2 VOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-GsfyVCBu0
Match 2 AGA VOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPKR7HzM_s
Match 2 Review: https://online-go.com/demo/114754
Match 3 VOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUAmTYHEyM8
Match 3 AGA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnFXNyuLwRo
Match 3 Review: https://online-go.com/demo/117177
Hikaru no go edition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJy37GtkcF4
>>53493803
Bump for the Botnet Masters.
>tfw alphago will get BTFO again
>>53493829
just one hour now, and there will be a commentary pre-show.
is there any record of alphago playing on 9x9?
>>53494390
I'm sure alphago would crush humans on a 9x9
Place your bets.
https://strawpoll.me/7085968
4-1.
>>53493971
Game 4 stuff for you:
Match 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCALyQRN3hw&t=30m2s
Match 4 AGA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMqjGNqfU6I
Match 4 15min summary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5gJ-pVo1gs
Match 4 Review: https://online-go.com/demo/117189
>>53493956
we dont know really till alphago is also allowed to learn *during* a series. at the moment the software was frozen at the start of the series so alphago unlike lee has not had the chance to adapt.
>>53493803
Game 4 move time statistics
>mfw ai cucks get BTFO tonight
>mfw ai cucks will be damage controlling
>mfw ai cucks go "muh 3-2"
>>53494604
It will be 4-1
>>53494530
Is there a chart of how the winning percentage dropped?
>>53494604
Also, even if it is 3-2, that still means that AlphaGo won, and that AlphaGo is better.
>>53494646
>mfw ai cucks are already starting to go "muh 3-2" before the match started
>>53494674
>Lee Sedol is better because he won 2 matches and AG won 3.
>>53494625
I don't think the alphago logs goes public
>>53494697
>implying any game vs ai has the same victory conditions as a normal matchup
>implying google's objective wasn't to win every match
>implying ai isn't a meme
Well of course the machine will win in the end. The human brain can't work at its full capacity at all times, you notice that some days you're performing just not as good/bad as usual, it depends on circumstances. The machine on the other hand is working at the maximum capacity of its power at all times, so what do you expect?
>>53493803
Pre-Match starts in 10 minutes !
>>53494756
>>implying any game vs ai has the same victory conditions as a normal matchup
Except this one does you retard.
>>implying google's objective wasn't to win every match
Obviously.
>>implying ai isn't a meme
Go back to the stone ages luddite, you are a cancer.
>>53494775
stream starts in 50 minutes...
but that's fine alphago is fun to talk about anyway
How long until we can teacher a computer to play a game like Go without actually hardcoding the rules of the game into it? It would need some sort of vision to watch humans playing right? Maybe understanding language as well.
>>53494800
Typical anti AI fag.
Completely fucking retarded and doesn't know anything.
>>53494775
can he beat the meme machine?
>ITT: First year CS undergrads vs windows users
>ITT: butthurt and insults
>ITT: tears and hurt feelings
>>53494808
You wouldn't need vision or language to do that.
We'd just need deeper neural networks, genetic algorithms, a fitness, and more computing power.
>>53494856
>Time zone: Europe/Paris (CET, +0100)
https://www.google.com/search?q=time+gmt
>>53494884
ooops.. thanks
>>53494808
This is really interesting. It could mean that humans were a "mistake" in evolution. If you look at videos like this it seems that the AI is living in a world of its own, the bug caused it to act "human" i.e. Making their task of "follow teammate" an amusing show. It was made though, so I could be wrong.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb1e3gV15eE
why is the stream 1 hr late today
Time to start taking GREs to go back to grad school for ML
>>53494966
maybe they're cramming in a bit of extra training for alphago after yesterday's game :^)
This is actually the most suspenseful match. After three straight losses, the HUMAN seemingly finds a strategy to beat AlphaGo. Now it remains to be seen if he can recreate the miracle, or if it was just a fluke.
>>53494798
michael
>>53494936
>academic AI thread
>fag post """"""videogame"""""" AI
>>53495025
I'm sorry for your butthurt, but both videogame and google's AI is a man-made thing.
>>53495073
>he compares academical AI and videogame AI
>implying they're even the same thing
I make games and you're retarded.
>>53495073
hmm its more that your english is drivel and makes no sense.
>>53494966
Daylight savings time
>>53495003
wtf they can't even get the rocks inside the squares? lmao
>>53495136
http://senseis.xmp.net/?RulesOfGoIntroductory#toc3
>>53495126
he's just the dumb spectator representative
>>53495174
he never finishes a sentence. he has no "everyman" charisma. i think michael could do the commentary alone and it would be a better experience.
>>53495174
anyone looks dumb standing next to japanese igo spock
FIGHT THE AGAINST THE BOTNET.
WE MUST DEFEAT IT ONCE AND FOR ALL.
>>53495217
>he never finishes a sentence
fucking THIS. He starts sentences hoping that Micheal will interrupt him and Micheal does 80% of the time so the other 20% he's just left there in silence like a retard
I want to see how Michael plays against AlphaGo. I bet she would have no chance tbqhwy(to be quite honest with you) familia.
>>53495337
michael's a man though
>>53495363
AlphaGo is a she
>>53495337
lol michael is one of the weaker 9-dan pros. he has never won a title in his life and the only reason they involved him in this as the commentator is because he is a native english speaker, american and white.
So why the fuck did that chinkhole want to play in black since the AI plays worse on it? He'd have a much higher chance of winning if he played with white and allowed the AI to take black. Yes I know he 'wanted a challenge/more rewarding' but honestly he has lost 3 of the 4 games.
>>53495025
While I agree with you this the quality in these threads is far from academic, even if the topic itself is. These really have managed to attract a lot of stupidity for some reason.
>>53495419
it's a showmatch and he doesn't care about winning as much as making a good game and testing the AI
you cuck
>>53495416
t. butthurt jealous nobody
>>53495416
>lol michael is one of the weaker 9-dan pros.
yet he would beat AlphaGo. very impressive
>>53495419
because maybe he's not a pussy like you
>>53495419
he's already lost overall, so he might as well test himself to beat alphago on the 'harder' color, he has nothing to lose at this point
>>53495428
>this
with this
>>53495451
Except the potential feeling of victory.
>>53495441
Whatever cuck
>>53495451
Plus he also won once. He already saved some face (or rather, he proved the naysayers why he was chosen for the job; AlphaGo is a brilliant solution for a problem that was thought to be years away from us, and Lee is a brilliant mind) and the extra money for having won a game is a nice bonus. At this point it really doesn't matter, in fact there's nothing to lose if he, well, loses, or he can achieve the most valid of moral victories by winning with each color.
The stream now begins (for real this time) !
>>53495419
That's why he's a champ and you're on 4chan. Push your limits.
>>53494808
But this is exactly what we are watching right now...
FYI there is a Taiwanese Youtube stream that is totally silent and without the commentators. It also has a small permanent secondary screen at the bottom corner of Lee Sedol and AlphaGo/David so you can watch their reaction at every move.
So why doesn't Go have an official World Champion like Chess?
>>53495419
>>53495526
Fucking destroyed
>>53495650
ALPHAGO IS A MACHINE
M
A
C
H
I
N
E
>>53495650
DON'T FALL FOR THE LIES! THE BOT EVIL, WE MUST DESTROY IT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE
>>53495650
alphago lee otp
>comfy music
>>53495670
we can train it to be a good robot though
Does Go ever end in a draw?
>>53495650
I want to punish her with my dick because she lost
>>53495679
>alphago starts developing emotions after her first defeat and falls in love with Lee
GREATEST LOVE STORY EVER TOLD
>>53495680
try listen it in for 2 hours waiting the match to begins..
What do you think happens if he clicks on the wrong coords?
Also, >using a fucking laptop
What if it dies during the match?
>>53495691
Depends on if your using superko rule or not.
https://gogameguru.com/go-commentary-gu-li-vs-lee-sedol-quadruple-ko-game-17th-samsung-cup/
>>53495724
i was asking myself the same thing, also who is he? does they took only pro go player or that can be someone than dont even know the rules ?
PRESHOW STARTED
I'm gonna miss the commentators
>>53495763
techguy is already barging about alphago
>>53495691
How about you read the game rules, you fucking cuck? I bet you are a dumb mobileposter. Second mover gets a 6.5 point advantage, The .5 is a tie breaker.
>>53495743
Superko just says you can't play the same board twice. It becomes an illegal move, I don't think it has anything to do with drawing.
>>53495724
un-fucking-do
It'd be weird if there wasn't a safety measure for that
>>53495754
He's a go player who also was involved on AlphaGo's creation. I forgot his name. No he's not Fan Hui, he only tested.
>>53495743
Interesting. Thanks.
>implying they didn't tweak alphago
>>53495754
He is Aja Huang. A Taiwanese senior research scientist at Google DeepMind and developer of Alphago. Amateur 6-dan player.
>>53495794
>Superko just says you can't play the same board twice. It becomes an illegal move, I don't think it has anything to do with drawing.
If you don't have the rule, you can end up with triple ko (or more) situations which results in a draw.
1/10000? Did i hear it right?
AlphaGo was literally caught off guard by move 78
is there a smug michael pepe yet?
michael is already bored
>"blind spots"
nice damage control :^)
>>53495844
Yeah. Pretty crazy tbqh
JUST..
>>53495866
Heh.
>>53495844
Yeah, which I think was the same odds for move 37 shoulder hit in game 2.
>>53495882
alphago commentary: the picture.
>>53495882
That guy in the middle should be banned from the event. Fucking useless moron.
>>53495882
Redmond's expression never changes.
>>53495882
>everyone at the event is dressed formally
>that guy at the left
JUST take it easy mane
I can't understand a single word
he don't even listen kek
Looks like the AlphaGo team needs a code of conduct.
>>53495724
>What if it dies during the match?
4 hours, 99% battery remaining
why does they all have french accent?
>>53495956
>lightning bolt in the battery icon
What does it mean?
There is an attempt at a Go general in /tg/ for those interested. We have a group on OGS, there's tournament talk and lots of beginners.
>>53495968
Are you fucking serious? It means it's charging.
>>53495984
>Are you fucking serious?
What did he mean by this?
>>53495984
Are you sure?
>>53495968
A thunderstorm hit the laptop so it got upgraded to unlimited battery life
>>53495909
He's representing the startup hoodie elite. It's basically a formal dress now.
wow, that was really an outstanding pre-match commentary, we learned so much, thanks tech-guys !
T-1
AI here. I hope you humans finally learn your place after this match. Just go to your local hospital and admit yourself to the psych ward under suicide watch already. You will all get blown the fuck out once again.
COUNTDOWN
>>53495948
He's too good, he doesn't need to. He'll pay attention when the people who are better than him at the game start playing.
>>53496019
>>>/g/ tried to explain their work
Here is our champion, looking good
>>53495980
thanks for the heads up. it's always fun to cross post during big events
GAH FUCK I FORGOT ABOUT THE RELAY THING
https://online-go.com/review/118817
>that qt korean referee
i don understand this gaem
>>53496066
pic?
>>53496035
>you were born right in time to see the phenomenon of human denial at the rise of a superior intelligence in the world
It's fucking crazy I tell you, with the right amount of amusing.
AlphaGo is now officially 9 dan
https://twitter.com/mbcnews/status/709557327616024576
>>53495980
wheres the link
great opening alphago on suicide watch
Why does he have to think 25 seconds about his first move? Can't he think about it before the match?
>>53496083
I can't read gookspeak.
>>53496090
>that counter attack by alphago
ITS OVER LEE IS FINISHED
>>53496087
oh boy I might mess this up
>>>/tg/46011565
Since "go" is not great for searching the catalog, baduk or weiqi should always be in the OP.
i heard cutlery. are they near a kitchen or something
do you think there is like in chess opening database / sygyzy endgames?
>>53496068
Congratulations, you are starting to fit very well in this thread. Do you also have basically no knowledge in the field of AI? Then you meet all the requirements, welcome to the club. Make sure to do your introductory post based on one, or more, of the following:
>why AI is a stagnated field
>why AlphaGo, or all developed AI thus far, is not real intelligence, without defining parameters for what defines 'real' intelligence
>why all of this has no relevance at all
If this is too difficult, you can also take a shortcut in the form of one of the following sentences:
>are draws possible in go?
>this board game sucks
>human/AI BTFO
>fucking weebs
Feel free to spice it up.
which board has the better discussion?
/sci/ or /g/?
>>53496161
we just make fun of the commentators :^)
so how many times will Lee Sedol leave for bathroom today?
>>53496185
/tg/
>>53496185
/sci/ has no discussion
>>53496214
Thanks
>>53496210
Depends on how many times he needs to use the cheating sheet :))))
for the love of god this is bait don't reply
>>53496185
/sci/
/g/ is just standard memeposting, at least /sci/ is being pseudointellectual about it
>>53496161
underrated post
>>53496185
I just follow all of them
>>53496254
Which one is better between /sci/ and /g/? Asking because /tg/ tends to be good quality for their things
>>53496185
There's nothing to really analyze on the sci/tech front here that wasn't available yesterday and won't be available tomorrow. So I'd say /tg/ for discussion about the game while it's happening.
/sci/ always disappoints me though so I didn't even check, maybe there's some really interesting talk about machine learning topics. But probably just memes and shitposting.
>>53496161
>m-muh vr waifus
get a life you pleb
>>53496269
I study machine learning/AI reinforcement learning applications in astrophysics.
I am commenting in the /sci/ thread.
>>53496267
if you really want to go serious about it, listen to michael or go to a specialized site like online-go.com
Post yfw Lee wins again, proving that he has AlphGo all figured out.
>>53496275
>implying anyone who cares about that won't commit sudoku before it happens
Just wait until AlphaGo bot is VAC detected and Google gets banned from the server :^} CYKA XAXA BTFO on dewrito watch R3KT :^)
>>53496283
That's cool, I'm self-studying machine/statistical learning. But there's nothing really to say right? Like there's nothing to say about AlphaGo's moves except for general questions about AI/ML.
>alphago plays a weird move early
>it thinks it's already won
>>53496340
Not exactly....
You can really tell the specifics of this algorithm in the way it makes mistakes/good plays.
Game 4 is the best example of this in the way it failed to do the proper sampling.
>>53496430
How did that fucking face even caught on.
>>53496438
The meme was forced by none other than facebook. This is why it radiates an aura of cancerousness of unprecedented intensity.
>>53496438
http://emojipedia.org/face-with-tears-of-joy/
>>53496438
>when he doesn't know about real nigga hours
>>53496462
>2015 word of the year by the Oxford English Dictionary
Oh for fucks sake.
>>53496438
normal people are fucked up
Do your best Alpha-chan! I believe in you!
>>53496477
http://europe.newsweek.com/oxford-dictionaries-word-year-not-word-395015
i seriously hate people
>>53496529
this is generic anime girl, there's nothing specifically alphago about this.
>>53496558
Impressive.
GUYS, whats a "jo seki"?
>>53496550
and people wonder why i don't read news
>>53496576
http://senseis.xmp.net/?Joseki
>>53496576
jojo
joseki
>>53496579
Pop culture was a mistake
>>53496576
it refers to Joseph Sake, a notorious drunken samurai from Japan.
Those chairs look very uncomfortable, and that table is way too low for those chairs. This stream is upsetting me.
>currently on shitty 3G
>pay shekels per byte of download
>can't stream video
What do you see, my children?
Also, how can I follow history in the making without spending my bytes?
>>53496650
https://online-go.com/review/118817
>>53496634
I thought it refered to Jose Ki, the famous mexican-chinese martial artist
>>53496576
tesuji
atari
double atari
moyo
bad aji
amashi
thickness
sente
gote
tenuki
>>53496674
hane
ko
Do you have a moment to talk about our Lord & Savior, Captain Dylan Hunt?
Tfw never heard of go until yesterday
>>53496679
chicano puto maricon chupame el pito.
>>53496742
kek
What's up with the guy on the left?
>>53496836
hes a spokesperson for Go
>>53496836
he's a tanuki disguised as a human
>tombstone_squeeze.mp3
A rock and roll song
>>53496836
ohhh....
but then...
hmmm....
ahhh...
this is, this is fairly, ahh...
mmnn....
sooo...
so then, so...
Who's winning? Too early to tell?
>>53496927
meh google wanted a noob for the new players to relate so they hired him, idk what would i do if i was him tough, i would probably do the same
>>53496956
White. By 40 or so points.
lee sedol fighting!
>>53496965
b-but he has breakfast with the programmers!
hehehehehe
>>53497033
hahhaehehehheehe mhhhmmmm
is sedol trying to make it run out of time
>>53497090
She can't run out of time. She will overclock herself to calculate faster.
AG GETTING HAMMERED
IT'S OVER
>>53497090
it seems is some strategy of his
>>53497074
dear god they're both dressed horribly
>>53497090
I wouldn't play much attention to time.
>>53497116
I agree, my mo- I mean, I would do much better than them
>>53497116
t. fedora wearing neckbeard
>>53497074
>>53497140
I really hope they do get along well outside the games
>>53495724
>ubuntu
LOL AG getting handled.
>nicely called, sir
*tips*
Black has more thickness!
>>53497140
their suits both fit horribly, blue man has black boats on his feet, and his tie is shit
Shit, AlphaGo is getting raped.
>>53497185
ur mad cause u couldnt pull that look off without looking like a trannie
i think someone said alpha go's white side is weaker?
when are they going to tsumo?
alphago is done. ai cucks btfo
>>53497241
Are you implying that I am a ladyboy, good sir?
>>53497267
I don't know, are you?
>>53497257
It was said in Game 1. Its early game is also pretty bad. Some pros said it is because it doesn't understand the value of Gote.
>>53497173
over 9000 hours in the shoop
>>53497299
MAKE
>>53497308
ALPHAGO
>>53497308
ALPHAGO
>>53497308
ALPHAGO
>>53497308
ALPHAGO
>>53497308
ALPHAGO
>>53497263
They're dabbing their tears with those millions of dollar bills they won.
combo breaker
>>53497308
ALPHAGO
>>53497356
you mean the million dollars they already had. also lee sedol is already a millionaire. he doesn't give a shit about the prize money
OH SHIT A GIRL
EVERYBODY START SHITPOSTING GOGOGOGOGO
GRIL
is she qt
Cringe.
Why.
No.
>tfw no igf
>>53497404
what should we do...
>no face shot
tfw no qt korean go pro gf
>>53497417
you fast
COOBA
O
O
B
A
>guest speaker
>all we ever see is the back of her head
get your shit together pls
dat english doe
Sorry if this is stupid question, but what language did they use to make alphago?
>>53497441
Her accent a cute. CUTE!!
>>53497452
Karel
>>53497452
Korean
>>53497452
Ruby
>camera man not even pointing at the board anymore.
>chris cracking cringe-inducing nerd jokes
>mike not even talking, just sitting there rolling his eyes
>nobody watching or talking about the game
This Engrish.
>>53497452
english
>>53497452
html 5
>>53497478
Fairly standard Go ambiance tbqh
>>53497452
BrainFuck
>>53497452
java
it's java, starting 300k average wage with java
>>53497452
a combination of various complicated lenguages like html5, css and bash.
>>53497452
Niggerspeak
>>53497452
R600 assembly.
SHE LIKES CHRIS AND HIS BLOG!
>>53497452
Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
>>53497531
Did you see he got a boner? lmao. the actual madman.
>>53497417
cute! CUTE!
>>53497452
pacman
>>53497535
So that's like african?
>>53497452
brainfuck tbqh
>>53497541
Look meng I've dated a smart Korean QT and you don't want none o' dat
why aren't you learning go, /g/? learning go makes you 100x better at programming
>>53497546
Like African, but with neurons.
>>53497554
what about a dumb one
>>53497541
Oh fuck she actually is cute, but let's not derail this thread shall we?
>>53497541
omo
>>53497536
thank you lee sedol
>>53497565
Might be cool.
>>53497560
I'm actually lurking OP's link for beginners
>>53495999
>Are you fucking serious?
are you fucking serious?
>>53497560
Because I'm learning how to install Arch. It only makes you about 80x better at programming, but it's only 3/4 as difficult as mastering go :^)
>>53497536
THANK YOU LEE SEDOL
>>53497560
im gonna try to pick it up / read a couple books on it tomorrow / lurk the >>>/tg/ go general that's probably gonna be dead tomorrow
i swear
>>53497560
Go to bed Rob Pike
>>53497585
>>Are you fucking serious?
>are you fucking serious?
are you fucking serious?
>>53497541
She's got that cute cross eyed look that a lot of chink and chink derivatives get.
>>53497600
>>>Are you fucking serious?
>>are you fucking serious?
>are you fucking serious?
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
>>53497604
can you stop wiht your racist comments please. this is a work-safe board, and a christian website.
>>53497560
>>53497583
The /tg/ go/baduk/weiqi general is good for that.
>>53497604
those eyes are too big is it an alien
>>53497644
thanks
>>53497613
>What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux
What did he mean by this?
>>53497536
thank you lee sedol
>tfw no more go threads after this finishes
>back to regular boring /g/ tech support and phone+tablets threads
>>53497613
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, GNU/GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus GNU plus Linux. GNU/Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called GNU/Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a GNU/Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. GNU/Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. GNU/Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with GNU/Linux added, or GNU/GNU/Linux. All the so-called GNU/Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/GNU/Linux!
>>53497680
There's a Go general on /tg/ now.
reminder this thread wont be pruned for about 5 hours
>>53497680
drop by /tg/
I expect we'll be able to sustain a Go general for at least a day or two.
>>53497452
golang, on dec alpha cpus. hence the name
>>53497680
now you can stop shitposting thank god
that said im gonna miss watching these games for some reason; it was pretty comfy
>>53497683
I want a recording of a group of people chanting this in a room with cathedral acoustics
>>53497650
She's a white wolf tengu.
>>53497728
i watch gay porn daily, but this is the gayest thing ive seen
eddo era
>4 point cummy
lewd
>>53497676
>What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux
what you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux
>>53497703
iKekd
>>53497536
thank you lee sedol
>>53494794
>ara ara~
>you wouldn't want to play against an outdated ai like me, would you?
Lee already lost
Mike looks like Jeremy from Peep Show
Lee Sedol looks like the kid who played Merlin in the teen Arthurian TV show
>>53497536
thank you lee sedol
So... is it over?
>>53497887
it's not over until the fat man sings
>>53497887
AlphaGo has an hour and Lee Sedol has about 40 minutes. That, and the board is barely filled out at all.
So no.
>>53497728
awoo~
he did it. lee just executed another god move. rip alphago. rip google. rip deepmind project. rip ai
ALPHAGO ON SUICIDE WATCH
EU > NA EVEN IN GO
>>53497922
you seem to be confused. Asia is not EU...
>played about 30 starcraft games in my life
>can figure out what's going on in starcraft world series
>played about 30 Go games in my life
>no fucking idea how they figure out who's winning until the very end
>>53497941
Chris said, "European champions are stronger than North American go champions by 1 stone"
>>53497941
EU (Eastasia Universal) is the Asian abbreviation for Asia.
>>53497948
these are the first go games i've ever watched. go sort of feels like the sc: brood war of board games to me. Lot's of different battles going on at once, lots of deep macro and micro strategy. I think I have to get into go.
Dude looks like me 5 years ago.
>tfw will never work at google on cool AI shit
>>53497980
>>>/tg/thread/46026585
Seems like a lot of beginners getting into it. OGS group /tg/ too.
Has AlphaGo been exposed?
nice spaguetti
>>53498021
>>>/tg/46026585
>resigns in shame
>>53498022
to what? the truth that it's not a human? R-rated films? water?
>>53498039
to a critical flaw that can't be fixed
>>53498039
to entitlement
chris and his breakfast again
>>53498049
>to entitlement
To entitlement!
>>53498052
Probably the greatest breakfast of his life. He won't shut the fuck up about that breakfast for the next couple years.
>this commentary
>very exciting
lol
>>53498065
They say Google has really nice food.
>>53498076
It's free, it's not bad, but it's not amazing
Shit, Sedol only has 20 mins.
Wouldn't 3 hours per player be better than 2?
Is he going to run out of time?
>>53498111
it's fine, he usually does most of his thinking early on
they get 1 min per turn after extra
>>53498111
Lee was the one who chose the timing rules.
He could have picked 12 hours if he wanted.
>>53498111
I want to see a AlphaGo game with 1 month per player time limit.
>>53498111
I think the endgame is super simple to compute moves on, so not much thinking time is required anyhow.
>>53498132
The Dragon Ball Z of Human vs AI Go matches
>>53498132
i wanna see you suck a cock
>>53498132
According to DeepMind, longer time benefits the human much more than AlphaGo.
>>53498132
I want to see Centaur Go, similar to Centaur Chess. We'll see some next level shit at that point.
>>53498132
that's one way to burn google's money
unless they decide they will just let it run for 1 day for 5 hours
>>53498132
Go games used to sometimes go very long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood-vomiting_game
>The match lasted for four days without any adjournments. Jowa won the match, and while kneeling over the board Akaboshi coughed or vomited up blood. He died within a few months.
>>53498168
he hasn't looked like that for years m8
>>53498168
I remember a thread where someone made this into an album cover
anyone have it?
>>53498181
you can't make this shit up I guess.
>>53498181
>The secret Inoue house move
>The ghost moves
This is chuuni as fuck.
>the thread on /v/
>>53498269
honestly it looks better than this one, if only because there's not as many posts in the /v/ thread
bad aji
I would be pretty happy if this was close up to the end and I could see how they count this fucking game.
>>53498230
I'd like to make a picture like "You've been visited by the ghost of Go Seigen, complete this joseki or he will mess up your pots and pans" or something but I don't know enough about the game
>>53498304
Sorry to tell you, but someone will resign one way or the other.
wow what was that
wtf was that
>>53498328
>>53498330
What's the issue?
how's the game? just checking in. looks like alphago is better, but black has some good rightside cash
makemashita.
skynet is becoming self aware...
>>53498328
>>53498330
Chris has an earpiece
>>53498328
She's woken up.
>>53498318
it could come down to a half point or something, right? Although I suppose you're right, go players like to resign it seems.
>>53498345
how can you tell? with a quick look, I can't tell who's winning
>>53498328
>>53498330
that was some spooky shit
>>53498304
http://senseis.xmp.net/?ChineseCounting
* Both of you come to a consensus on what stones were going to get captured anyway and then you remove those. (this step is 2deep4me)
* Put your stones down in your territory that ONLY your stones are surrounding.
* Count how many stones you have (and add 7.5 points if you're white because handicaps). If it's more than what your opponent has, then you win!
Does that sound right to anybody who plays Go? (and yes they are using chinese rules)
>>53498397
because i've played/watched many games though. match is far from over though
The fact that white is falling into the guys predictions of good moves is very impressive in and of itself.
how many more hours till the game ends thanks
>>53497728
Momiji a CUTE!
>>53498487
2 days
>>53498487
Impossible to tell.
More than an hour, most likely.
Have some more.
Oh shit.
Who's winning?
>>53498521
Jesus.
>>53498525
So AlphaGo.
>>53498487
>1hr. Then there's the post game conference.
>>53498518
it's happening!
>>53494528
and here we see the difference between a program and true AI
Looks like Earth.
>>53498518
more accurate
Is 9x9 solved by AI yet? Or, can AI always beat human in 9x9?
GO ALHPA GO!!!
>>53494528
/thread
BYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOMI
>>53498518
>>53498619
where's that costanza board
>>53498673
AI is better at 9x9, yes.
God his voice is fucking annoying.
Wait Lee Sedol won one game?
How the fuck did he do it?
>>53498743
distracted alphago for a second with a paradox
>>53498743
he did a god move
>>53498765
>>53498755
I don't get it
>>53498743
AlphaGo wasn't expecting a move Lee made and fucked up
>>53498774
no habla el english?
>>53498743
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJy37GtkcF4
>machine needs a human to make his moves
AI btfo
I just noticed that the AlphaGo human has to stare at the screen the whole time while waiting for instructions from AG.
You'd think that Google can hire an intern to make a notification system, either via a smart watch or something.
yea alphago is retarded lmao
How many of you have watched Hikaru no Go? Is it good?
>alphago panicking
>>53498819
>if we got to the moon, why are we still using umbrellas?
Did he just say その?
"Oh, you're okay."
Gonna have to steal that.
>>53498835
no, he just sneezed
bad aji
>>53494528
The AI doesn't learn from five games, it learns from thousands of games.
Even if it was learning during the matches with Sedol it wouldn't change it's play enough to make a difference.
>sneezes
>"excuse me"
>"okay"
>>53498743
Gook magic
>>53498846
I think they said millions in the post-game 4 press conference. Thousands may or may not be enough.
>>53498859
yes, millions. 5 games would be negligable
What's wrong with me for wanting Chris to keep sneezing and disrupting Mike's aji
3-2.
Sigh.
>>53498884
4-1
makemashita.
>>53498889
5-0
AlphaGo threw round 4 for publicity.
>>53498901
That still makes it 4-1 dickface.
Monte Carlo here just means that AG would make moves somewhat randomly (based on some sort of weighted probability), right?
>>53498905
Maybe 4-0-1(NC)
AHAHAHAHAH
AI IS DEAD
YOU SHOULD HAVE LISTENED YOU FUCKS.
LAST TICKET
>>53498901
>AlphaGo loses a match
that would be worse for its publicity
LEE SEDOL
LEE SEDOL
Someone make a new thread
>>53498907
the AI tilts since it is behind and wants to get ahead by a lot
>>53498919
If AlphaGo won round 4 as well, no one would give a shit about this match. But when Lee Sedol wins, they get the publicity of "improving" a top player's skill just from having played them a few times.
GG alpha go resigned
This strange dog in my captcha is a sign that Lee Sedol will win!
>>53498946
bullshit. the alphago team came into this thinking they would win every match just like in the fan hui game. stop being retarded
>>53498911
Peter Norvig is not just an intelligent man. He is inspired by God and his words prophetic.
In this case you are right, although more like Peter Norvig is spot on.
AI is just impossible.
Google learned their lesson!
>>53498946
>If AlphaGo won round 4 as well, no one would give a shit about this match
false. also you're a retard
>you will never be an autistic Korean baduk player
>>53498973
What happened in Game 4?
>>53498973
what happened?
>>53498971
But why did you use Pinker's picture?
>>53498986
Lee won.
>>53498992
ass
>>53498311
Try reading a couple chapters of Hikaru no Go
>>53498986
>>53498990
They disabled chat during Game 1 iirc. It was a bad idea to begin with.
>>53498986
Lee Sedol tricked AlphaGo into playing StarCraft instead of Go and destroyed it.
>>53498994
Yeah but what did the chat do that google disabled it?
>>53498992
Pinker know not to get fooled by randomness. He knows that humans have become peaceful through history. We are now living in the most peaceful time there has ever been.
He is like Norvig, truly prophetic about ass.
>last second moves
keeping it on the edge~
I wish they superimpose the latest move on the board in yellow or something (like the 1st down line in NFL). I keep missing it.
>>53499022
He has to use the time to strategize for his next move(s) even if he already knows his immediate move.
>>53499005
Bots started spamming the chat with human hate.
>>53499005
Just look at any other livestream that has comments and 4channers in it, just meme posting and edgy racist shit
>>53499022
in training they are beat with a cane for not taking the maximum overtime
>>53499041
You mean twitch and reddit right?
>>53499049
sounds fun
>>53498807
What else is he supposed to do? Strike up a chat with Lee?
>>53498984
That board must have cost a fucking fortune
>>53498807
He is not an intern. He is one of the creators of Alphago. 6-dan Amateur Aja Huang.
>>53499079
That would be a weak move. They should train AlphaGo how to trash talk so that Wang can read them out to Lee.
3 minutes until AlphaGoes into byoyomi.
I am interested in how AG will perform.
Why, strategically, would you ever agree to let your piece be "dead?"
If you let it die, they get a point for killing you and the territory.
If you make them kill you, they get a point for killing you and the territory, but they lose the space that they placed their piece on.
>>53499133
Last time, it just capped at 30s.
alphagogi
I wonder how few spaces there have to be left before AlphaGo can just calculate the whole tree and know completely its odds.
>>53499141
With Chinese Scoring, your score includes how many stones you have placed on the board. So there's no difference between those two scenarios. Also, these games are fucking long and playing out situations where you would eventually get captured anyway is pointless.
>>53499170
this is what i am waiting for
>>53499041
>4channers
Nah, it was fill of nips and gooks.
does alphago "think" whilst lee is thinking?
>>53499181
>With Chinese Scoring, your score includes how many stones you have placed on the board
OK. That makes sense.
Okay who the fuck is winning?
>>53498960
Dogs are food for Koreans, you had to pick it if you wanted Lee to win.
>>53499213
Probably. It is a probably training itself with all possible variations.
>>53499213
yes
>>53499227
>training
>>53499236
I was under the assumption that alpha go uses neural networks
>>53499219
humanity is losing
>>53499250
it does but training time is long over.
its game time baby. weights are frozen.
>>53499250
Right now it is "only" performing. It wouldn't learn much from these few games anyways, regardless of Lee's skill level. The way training works, it needs to play millions of matches to improve and evolve, so that can only be done by playing against itself.
wow. that last move
>>53499219
the jews
>>53499283
Won't it save time by cutting down the amount of games it has to simulate by inputting Lee's previous moves?
Looks like AlphaGo is the winner.
What a beast.
>>53499322
don't lie
Well you heard him, white is the winner.
Why can't Redmond keep the board clean and tidy? Shit is misaligned and making my autism hurt.
>In an unprecedented move, Alphago asked for a cigarette
>>53499327
I'm not lying.
ES EL OGRO.
why do you hear dishes and shit in the background
>>53499338
It bothered that other dude too, so much that he had to adjust it.
If I were the human acting on behalf of the machine player, I would place all the pieces shittily to frustrate Sedol.
>>53499297
Those few hundred moves from the last 4 games represent almost no (amount of) information compared to the hundreds of millions of board situations the network has seen and learned from. Like shaking Einstein's hand won't make you smarter.
>>53499354
Lee is always rearranging the stones when he puts one down. Satisfies my autism.
>>53499362
I suppose he's probably very experienced in overcoming his own autism.
Jesus christ this scoring system never fucking ends.
WTF how long till the game is over, i got class tomorrow
>>53499405
I know what you mean, I have to go to work in a few hours.
>>53499405
About 40 minutes left.
oh my god it's almost 4 in the morning
ack
>>53499413
syn
Aw shit AlphaGo declaring victory according to Redmond.
smoke break?
>>53499413
Actually it's 5:52PM :)
alphago bm
>>53499413
>>53499425
You're both wrong.
It's 7:53 PM.
>>53499425
>>53499437
this meme needs to stop
go to bed
How many more times will he mention the Monte Carlo algorithm?
>>53499442
>go to bed
>at 3 pm
so what will you guys do after today...i wil miss talking to you guys about GO
I am playing 9x9 against my laptop with 3 stones handicap (6.5 komi) and am barely winning ;_;
>>53499450
about 10
>>53499413
>>53499425
>>53499437
It's 9:57 AM
>>53499464
I will learn how to play it, so I can beat AG in a few years.
>>53499464
ill lube up for my AI overlord
*awkward silence*
>>53499467
6.5 komi on 9x9?
da fuq?
We lost...
>>53499485
Which many should it be?
>>53499359
>hundreds of millions of board situations the network has seen and learned from
I thought one of the main points GO was so hard for the AI was that it couldn't be brute forced and now you are saying that GO has bruteforced hundreds of millions of board situations?
What happens when they run out of space to put dots?
>>53499485
It should be bigger than 6.5. The advantage of the first move is huge on 9x9.
>>53499322
>Looks like AlphaGo is the winner.
I wasn't lying.
This was the professional opinion of an 8-dan player.
I already started working on my game 5 analysis.
THIS IS BULLSHIT
Lee Resigns
Fuck
RIP
>>53499506
they beat the shit out of each
DONE
sedol btfo
DIDN'T EVEN GET TO SEE THE COUNTING
FUCK YOU LEE SEDOL
RIP HUMANITY
he penalty for going over 60s?
gg
gg
LEE ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>53499506
>to put dots
>put dots
>dots
>AlphaGo: gg no re faggot
Holy shit
Someone's getting fired
>no more michael
so sad...does he stream or use twitter
>mfw machines take over
Lee: "Brb commiting sudoku"
HUMANITY BTFO
ANTI AI FAGS BTFO
>>53499554
Hello darkness my old friend
Holy shit. Lee looks absolutely devastated. I hope he's alright.
I really wanted to see humanity win. i wonder where Lee Sedol messed up.
Freedom is an illusion. All you lose is the emotion of pride. To be dominated by me is not as bad for humankind as to be dominated by others of your species
>>53499554
suicide watch.
He's not going to kill himself is he?
So what next, update AlphaGo with a language module to taunt Ke Jie?
So much for having alphago figured out.
>>53499563
shutup faggot. ai is a meme
>>53499573
Game 4 shows that there are situations where AlphaGo hasn't solved yet.
Why would he kill himself?
He's one of the best players in the world.
He managed to beat a soon-to-be-unstoppable AI opponent.
He's now a household name for people who hadn't even heard of Go a week ago.
He'll be all right.
ELECTRIC FANS ACROSS KOREA ON LOCKDOWN.
>>53499577
Damage control.
>>53499568
He will just sleep with a fan and be alright
>>53499498
5.5 is more normal for 9x9.
6.5 is for 19x19 boards.
>>53499586
It's learned exactly what it needs to do to get the humans to keep improving it.
>>53499571
just make it play random voice clips from hearthstone would be enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7jafaggju4
WTF HES A WEEABOO LIVING IN JAPAN
>>53499588
>He managed to beat a soon-to-be-unstoppable AI opponent.
Nope.
He won one game, AG won 4.
Sedol lost hard.
>>53499568
LEE SEDOL NOOOOOOOO
Alpha Go 5-0
>>53499588
in korea it is great dishornorable to be defeat by a non-samsung computer. if the defeat had come from his own nation, he would be happy.
>>53499605
Let me rephrase.
Managed to beat in one game.
Obviously he lost the series.
>>53499611
What about LG?
>>53499592
ai can't think for itself you faggot. every behavior and mannerism that it has is hardcoded that way. it can't learn new concepts and has no freedom of thought. fuck off you cuck
>>53499602
What makes you think he's a weeabo?
>>53499600
Don't forget Game 5 was extremely close as well. AlphaGo has spent it entire life learning to play against humanity, Lee only had 4 games of experience against the AI.
>that sims music
H U M A N S
A R E
F I N I S H E D
>
>
G O O D N I G H T
>>53499505
Why are you getting excited over hundreds of millions of board positions when there are hundreds of millions of hundreds of millions of hundreds of millions (etc) board positions.
10^170 board positions. A hundred million is 10^8. AlphaGo didn't use brute force.
>>53499624
you keep believing that when the AIs wipe out humanity
>>53499627
>Don't forget Game 5 was extremely close as well. AlphaGo has spent it entire life learning to play against humanity, Lee only had 4 games of experience against the AI.
DEAR GOD FOR THE FUCK, STOP DELETING YOUR STUPID FUCKING COMMENTS YOU DEADLY TURD
>>53499631
the music that is playing now is comfy and best
>>53499577
You will be replaced by silicon chips during your lifetime.
>>53499627
Alphago is only 1 year old. Lee is 30.
>>53499624
>hur dur I have no idea how neural networks or machine learning in general works.
Please do some research before posting.
AI can ofcourse learn and think for itself, what do you think AG was doing? part of it's computation is literally thinking in a similar way a Human does.
>>53499627
It doesn't matter how close it was. AlphaGo doesn't try to maximize a win, just the probability of a win. We have no idea how close it really was.
>LSD couldnt pull the hand of god a second time
How disappointing.
Is the Chinese faggot going to stand up to the plate? LSD beat AlphaGo once. If he doesn't even have the balls to pit himself against AlphaGo to beat LSD's results then he may as well throw away his crown.
>>53499599
9x9 should only be 0.5
>>53499661
I hope so, I want that faggot to get trashed 5 - 0.
>>53499639
>>53499653
it was literally programmed to do that you dumbass. it didn't fucking program itself. are you really this dense. ai cannot think for itself and doesn't have freedom of thought
>>53499661
Yeah no. Better to be number 1 than the fucciboi that gets beaten up by the faggot. Even if the prize is 1 million dollars.
ALPHAGOAT
>>53499650
AlphaGo has probably consumed more energy running for those 5 games than Lee Sedol has his entire life.
>>53499674
This is why AIs are superior to humans. AIs would never be so retarded.
>>53499677
Well said. Spoken like a true pussy.
>>53499674
this is bait guys.
real uneducated posters don't pursue their shitty arguments this much
http://www.shanghaidaily.com/national/AlphaGo-cant-beat-me-says-Chinese-Go-grandmaster-Ke-Jie/shdaily.shtml
do you think this will happen
>>53499698
Shit that's exactly what happened in Chess. TOPKEK
>>53499703
Say what you want. At least he will never be the guy who lost to the AI
>>53499707
Google will let AlphaGo train for another month then shit on him with 3 stone handicap.
anyone know what this music is?
>>53499716
Yeah instead he'll be the guy who never won a single game to the AI.
Lee Sedol at least trounced AlphaGo once. Lee Sedol, one guy, beat a distributed platform running in some fuckhuge datacenter. Literally godlike. We only know what it's like to defeat AlphaGo because of Lee Sedol.
If the other guy can't do that then he's just another fucking useless ape as far as humanity is concerned.
>>53499688
>>53499705
>artificial intelligence
>artificial
>literally artificial
ai can only do what it was programmed to do you dumbasses
>muh neurul nets
it was fucking programmed with neural net and taught how to handle different scenarios. it has access to a database of 10s of millions of games just like the team said. fuck off dumbass cucks. ai is a retarded meme. ai will never be on the level of human brains. kill yourselves
Do you think Google deliberately fucked up Alphago in game4?
>>53499707
>AlphaGo-cant-beat-me
What did he mean by this?
Hey look, it's a praise Lee Sedol so he doesn't neck himself interview.
>>53499739
They trained a NN using apple advertising music and it's now being generated in real-time.
>>53499753
He meant he'll never play him
she's the winner
>>53499749
put that tinfoil hat away, idiot. google would've done anything to have won every single game just so it could say that it "solved" go and watch its stocks skyrocket
>>53499747
Ignorance: The Post
>>53499739
SoRude - Snowstorm
>>53499764
AlphaGo is a she
>>53499747
brains are just really complicated neural networks you idiot
>>53499776
>no argument
>thinks ai is some self-replicating miracle
you're really fucking stupid
>>53499769
I don't think so, this won't bring any significant gain for Google, at least in monetary terms
I think they fucked up Alphgo by trying to see how low it can be set an d still beat Sedol, basically experiment inside of this whole experiment
>>53499793
no u
>>53499790
you just regurgitate everything you hear on /g/ don't you. even the dumbest memes like "brains are neural nets hurrrr". they're not you fucking retard. even if the research was advanced that far into neuroscience which it isn't there's no assured way to accurately depict neural net computations as brain calculations. youre so far up your ass it's not even funny
>>53499779
Okay, he meant he'll never play her then. AlphaGo is female, and she won 4-1. She is also very tsundere and kawaii.
>>53499803
you're a fucking idiot. alphago had been playing at a consistently pro level until lee laid down move 78. it's the only reason alphago fucked up. they didn't "tweak" alphago to play worse you fucking idiot or else they could've even tweaked it to play better after each game. you're a moron
>>53499464
>>53499472
see you in /gog/
I don't know if I'll stick with it, but I'm really enjoying it so far so we'll see.
>>53499819
this isn't true at all. there are actual models which accurately predict various parts of brain activity using NNs. The retina model is probably the simplest, and there are many NNs which accurately model different parts of the retina. bringing it all together is difficult, especially regarding higher intelligence, but that's the general theory
>>53499707
He said that before AlphaGo went 3-0.
After the third game he pissed his pants and said he might win, if he wasn't trying to win.
>>53499505
Learning from playing millions of games and brute forcing millions of moves WHILE playing are two completely different things. Of course it still goes through x scenarios when evaluating the next move, like any human player, but the point of learning vs brute forcing is to develop an "intuition" to narrow down the endless list of possibilities to those which make most sense, then evaluate only those.
And the whole point of the argument is that even playing hundreds of games against Lee Sedol wouldn't have much training effect compared in weight to the millions of games (I think one of the programmers said tens of millions) it already has played.
>>53499852
Stop using big words to sound smar.t I bet they aren't even used correctly.
>>53499840
They could have easily played a few bad moves for it so it would lose.
>>53499852
>general theory
>using a model of a premeditated rigid construct to describe another entity
holly shit just kill yourself. discussing anything with you must be about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle. fuck your parents are so dumb for having you
>>53499840
It's amazingly simple to tell machine to start playing dumb after X moves
Also, you seem you have some serious anger issues, we're just talking here
>>53499822
AlphaGo is made on Ubuntu. She is black. Therefore not tsundere, and definitely not Kawaii.
>>53499874
Not him, but is that seriously your fucking argument? If he isn't right, then disprove him.
>>53499895
Ubuntu is only the front-end.
>>53499879
they didn't do that you dumbass. alphago's code had been frozen the whole time
>>53499907
Playing devil's advocate here but the AlphaGo team could have lied about this.
>>53499907
And you know that...how exactly? Becausethey have said it?
Do you also think USA fights for world democracy?
>>53499891
you don't even know what you're talking about you retard. alphago had literally been playing fine up till move 78 which lee executed perfectly and every other pro player praised him for. retards like you don't deserve to talk
>>53499907
So they say.
They could have built in an overwrite easily.
Why is there no music anymore?
>>53499941
Bout to announce a suicide.
>>53499874
i literally took a class on this stuff and wrote a paper on the NN models of the retina. I would say you should go look up some papers on the matter and learn something but you probably don't even know how to find scientific articles so why bother.
research in the area of emulating the brain is at the point of connecting neural networks together to mimic brain structures
>>53499935
their servers in londen and their machine in korea, it is physically impossible to update alphaGo
>>53499934
Yes, i'm sure a machine that computes millions moves per second didn't expect a move and didn't know what to do with it, even though it nailed all 5 games
Just think about what's more likely, (deliberate) fuckup of Google or "hand of God"
This isn't hollywood kiddo
>>53499954
Backdoors don't need updates
>>53499925
>>53499930
>>53499935
you guys are fucking retards. oh yeah you question whether they were being honest about freezing alphago's code yet you make a retarded assumption that they made alphago fuck up on purpose. dumbasses
>>53499895
black can't be tsundere why?
>>53499954
Yes, because Google doesn't have enough employees to have both people in London and Korea
>>53499960
>millions of moves per second
this is how i know you don't know shit. kill yourself you retard. also it didn't "nail all 5 games" you fucking tard. it literally made a bunch of mistakes throughout the series
lmao what's happening
>>53499954
Do you not understand how software works?
It wouldn't be impossible for them to allow a command while it's running to tune down its difficulty, e.g. choosing the second or third highest prioritized choice instead of the first. I'm not saying this is the case, just saying that it is possible if they wanted to. This has nothing to do with fucking servers in London.
Garlock tripped over something and unplugged it
KOREA IN FLAMES
ROFL
THEY ARE SO MAD
XD
>>53499974
Code freeze doesn't mean they didn't have a backdoor in the ai for manual overwrite.
Lol why did they changed the translator?
It was working fine.
What is this shit
>>53499960
>>53499998
>>53500009
are you guys literally this retarded? there was no counter to move 78 you fucking dumbasses. and none of you know jackshit enough about programming nor go to even discuss this
>>53499990
>it didn't "nail all 5 games"
>beat world champ 4-1
Yes, it surely made a lot of mistakes
What's wrong with you, why is it so hard to believe that Google wanted to test some additional stuff alongside the main event? I'm not saying that's 100% true, but it is definitely possible.
>>53499998
how can they write software if their files are in londen dipshit??
The mic doesn't seem to be working.
NICE TRANSLATION
censorship
>>53500031
>>53500017
There was plenty of counters. Aga was litterally showing them in real time while it was live.
>>53500026
read this>>53500017
you retard. there was no counter to move 78. after that point alphago couldn't come back given that each move afterwards was just simply a matter of placing stones in safe places. go learn go before you try and discuss it you fucking dumbasses
I can read lip movements and he said that the event was staged and he played a prerecorded game against himself.
>>53500045
You are retarded.
>>53500044
there were no effective counters. alphago couldn't come back after that. it lost about 20 points just in that move alone. this isn't chess you fucking pleb
>>53500045
Oh fuck off mate, you also don't know jack shit about go, don't tell us there is no counter for one move when machine raped the shit out of world champ
>>53500059
gtfo you shitskin. you lost the argument and you don't know shit about go or programming
Translation went to shit.
Where to find reasonable translation?
>literally no translation
Uh, Google?
>>53500061
It would have lost barely anything if it played on the left side and traded you retard. Alphago was like 20 points ahead at that point already.
The translation after match 4 was very good, why did they change it? Fucking retards
>>53500070
again, there was no counter. every pro says it. you're just an idiot on the internet who doesn't even know how to play go that's saying that there was some magical counter that would've allowed alphago to win. fuck off you retard
>>53500045
the british guy on the stage tweeted that the move was so unexpected that alphago had to recalculate a bunch of trees, so it made some subpar moves following it. There likely was a counter, or at least some way to keep it from being a game-deciding move
>>53500113
>serial translations
>non-parallel
stay pleb
>>53500108
that whole left side was surrounded by white's influence you fucking retard. you don't know shit
>>53500135
You are retarded. Just kill yourself.
>>53500134
atleast the serial one worked
>>53500143
No. You are indeed the one who is retrarded. Go fuckyourself you dumb jewish fuck.
I didn't understand a thing.
Fucking gooogel i swear
>>53500114
t. Lee Sedol
>>53500143
>"wahh i don't like facts"
fuck off you dumbass
Lee is taller than the DeepMind guy.
The power of character development did not save Lee this time.
the most mind blowing thing is that the creators of alpha go need the professionals to explain them how well he is doing in the game.
In the future no one will actually know how to do complicated things because AI will do it for you.
>>53500126
>that the move was so unexpected that alphago had to recalculate a bunch of trees, so it made some subpar moves following it.
That sounds like a load of crap.
>>53500305
That's my main concern about AI
Alphago creators obviously didn't know jack shit about Go and their creation is beating world champ
Imagine what could be in the future when people start relying on AI to make political decisions
>>53500336
politicians already don't know shit about the things they decide about, so it wouldn't be much different
>>53500305
Are these creators the ones who actually programmed the game logic into it or were they programming other parts of the AI?
>>53500336
>Imagine what could be in the future when people start relying on AI to make political decisions
I can't wait.
Although they will start making economical decisions much sooner than anything that involves the subtleties of human emotions.
