Post hopelessly obsolete devices whose design nevertheless impresses you.
>>53476747
>Palm
sigh...
Jebus how I lusted after this thing.
>>53476777
I really wish phones these days came with D-pads. Makes reading so much nicer.
>>53476747
>>53476996
Was that comfortable?
If you use vim, this is what its commands were designed for
Devices with thin keyboard bezels are the best.
>>53477269
I had this and it was shit. Didn't stop me from being incredibly smug about my "linux based telephone with a proper keyboard" (the main points I used when bragging about it)
I also had unlimited data, and with PDAnet I could use it with my laptop and that was pretty cool too.
>>53477309
I'll fookin wreck u m8. I had it and it was awesome. The springy screen popped out better than non-springy sliders. Keyboard was great for a phone, I could touch type in a couple weeks because the layout was similar to a regular keyboard and the key spacing was just right. And the roller balls was good for VNC/RDP.
Still don't know why I didn't buy one of these.
>>53477359
Forgot my image.
>>53477337
Yeah the mechanism was fantastic, as was the keyboard, and the trackball worked very well so that I almost never used the (terrible) resistive touchscreen. But the internals were outdated almost immediately, meaning it was terribly stuttery and laggy, and I used it for two years.
>>53477373
Very true on that. Even with the community support (which was frigging huge) it was still damn slow
>>53477283
I still use a model M, not obsolete :(
Only if there was with current specs
>>53477373
The G1 had a capacitive screen, not resistive.
>>53477397
Yeah it's nearly identical to a standard keyboard. Just missing the OS key. I don't see how that's obsolete.
E90 communicator up in this bitch. I want it so bad.
This form factor in general, really
Less "obsolete" and more "sadly canceled"
>>53477491
It was canceled? Fug
>>53477491
There are plenty of android gaming devices avaliable, though. Just buy an Nvidia shield, FFS.
>>53477525
Yeah. The company has a couple of earlier phones but their specs are very outdated and their build quality isn't great (light bleed, etc). This one was looking professional as fuck and they got as far as accepting pre-orders on Amazon. Canceled in December.
>>53476747
>tfw when I was young, I expected to write Palm software when I grew up
I also expected Zip disks to be the future, I was really bad with tech predictions.
as for design, Apple's 68k-era laptops are all just obnoxiously sexy, particularly their earlier ones
>>53477263
fuck, that 70s look is so good, so space-age
>>53477544
Got one. I just never use it because my gaming time is almost always in situations where I have my phone and nothing else, like during breaks at work.
This thing was cool as shit. Scroll wheel for navigation, bookmarking for audiobooks, charging dock that pulsed in time to the music, had av-out plugs, and an ethernet port that let you control it over your home network.
>>53477564
hmh
Then maybe get one of those bluetooth controllers for your phone.
>>53477658
Got just about every one ever released. Problem with them is that either they do hold the phone and don't fit well in a pocket, or they're small but you have to set the phone down on something.
>>53477658
>>53477684
FYI, if you want any info or advice about them, feel free to ask.
>>53477829
that's not obsolete at all, though
>>53477716
Nah, I got one that's literally a ripoff PS3 controller with a clip for your phone, been pretty satisfied with it.
>>53477850
Not a bad solution. My personal pick for the best compromise between ergonomics and portability is the Moga Hero, although these eight dollar keychain gamepads are nice for games that don't need shoulder/trigger buttons. The slidepad's about as good as the one on my 3DS.
Dead sexy
>>53477373
>>53477337
>springy sliders
Ksh-ching!
The specs were not that special but the design was great (but I always prefered long narrow phones) and very comfortable to use with one hand thanks to that bulge at the bottom.
>>53476784
Mah nigga!
x86 phones when?!
>>53478586
Asus Zenfone.
>>53478597
With full Windows I mean. The Surface Phone better deliver.
>>53478613
Just set up a VM on the zenfone. not that hard.
>>53477491
GPD XD, its fucking amazing. Look it up.
>>53477445
2 key rollover maybe?
>>53479081
wrong thread, buddy
>tfw smartphones killed UMPCs
>>53477269
Neo 900 should've been for this beauty
Vaio P, Data General Nova 800, gameboy micro, DS lite, minidisk, microdrive,
>>53478644
Got a ZF2, it's just not quite the same.
>>53477415
You're joking. Every reviewer bashed it for terrible ergonomics. There's a reason phones are 16:9.
>>53478887
Most keyboards have 2-key rollover, and most of them have more blocked 3-key combinations than the model M.
Those babbies.
>literally a handheld PC packing only the key features needed for work
>killer battery life despite running on AAA batteries
>god tier ergonomics and UI
>master race clamshell design
>compatible with fucking everything at the time
>dialing phone numbers from the contact book on any phone by simply playing tones
This is what smartphones should have evolved from: optimized features, battery efficient, high compatibility electronics.
But no, let's only have a day's worth of battery life so we can exchange 160 character long messages through 20 abstraction layers and 14 stacked communication protocols using an OS specific binary developed on a dedicated set of APIs that can only be downloaded through a locked down store, because it is so much better that my phone has an apple on it.
>>53480877
for real. The only things I do on my phone that need any power are web browsing, occasional games, and the encryption / light compression on file syncing.
>>53480877
I wonder how easy would it be to break into battery efficient everything-compatible device.
This. Still have it too.
>>53480877
>>53481154
What do you guys expect it to be compatible with? Desktop applications don't translate well to small size.
>>53477196
No, but its a tiny improvement over the original rubber devil speccy, however the keys stick and they slowly sponge back up after they are depressed.
>>53477337
>tfw the G1 is still my main phone.
It spends most of it's time off and it's running rainbow dream or some such nonsense, I gave up seriously fucking around with it years ago.
The battery (of which is the second) has alzheimers.
During it's hayday it was indeed the smug phone of choice and I long await another droid with a keyboard.
I could replace this thing with the cheapest droid out there and it would be outgunned, thats kinda funny. For a while I had it running circles around the hero and such. It just hasn't got the specs.
>>53481403
I also still have a G1. It's impossible to use these days, almost every app needs more CPU and RAM than the G1 has. It's basically a portable terminal emulator, and it's not even great at that.
>>53476784
Great hardware, shitty driver support for windows that isn't vista. And newer distros are finicky. But it's lovely in use.>>53476784
>>53477415
Dude I have this phone. The LG intuition. The guy at the Verizon store tried to talk me out of buying it because others complained it was too big back in 2012. I've always been ahead of the curve
i still want one of these puppies btw
>>53480119
hopelessly slow with a 30 min battery life.
the only good thing about it was the neat design, other than that it was desperately useless
>>53481465
even installing the OS is barely possible. Gingerbread plus google play services uses ALL the system space. You have to run Froyo or Eclair and then you get a huge drop in app compatibility
>>53481204
Desktop applications' GUI doesn't, the core functions do
>>53477371
Looks sick but can't be comfortable to use.
>>53477415
Looks like a touchwiz and og note knock-off.
>>53480119
>>53481534
I had one. It wasn't slow; core solo wasn't too bad for an XP device. Battery life was indeed terrible if you didn't have the double capacity battery.
>>53481201
Damn you. I wanted that thing so fucking bad. I watched the Expansys page for months hoping they'd have a version I could run on verizon.
>>53482067
See I would not mind having something this thick today, especially if it was because of the battery or keyboard. What the fuck is with the obsession over thinnest phone ever anyway.
>>53482107
Ill understood "futurism" in design that hooks up ""normies"". Biggest screens, thinnest forms, the most gigs and pixels.
>>53482107
>>53482146
Thing is, thicker is so much more comfortable to hold. I picked up a Palm T2 at a yard sale the other day and was amazed at how much better it feels in my hand than my Note 4.
>>53477196
I wanted one of those tiny Vaios so bad. Now they're low enough in price that I could actually afford to buy one used, but I don't know if they're completely useless these days.
>>53480074
>hopelessly obsolete
>beautiful design
I think he's in the right one, actually.
>>53478527
Sauce?
The one great failing of these was that they came with DSTN screens, meaning anything moving is blurry as shit.
>>53481534
Still pisses me off that Nokia went with WP. Maemo/Meego was so cool.
>>53482107
Phone thickness matters to a degree. I remember the earlier thick Android phones being difficult to pull out and put in my pocket (I wore regular jeans, not skinny jeans). New thin phones are much easier to get in/out.
But now they're thin enough. I don't see any reason to go thinner.
>>53481534
>hopelessly slow with a 30 min battery life.
It's decent with XP and runs OpenBSD great, I get around 4.5 hours battery. I'm recelling the pack with some modern 18650s at some point.
>>53482203
God, I wanted one of those so badly.
>>53483411
Honestly it makes an amazing ereader. That circular direction pad feels like sex for your thumb.
World's first plasma display.
>>53484791
epic
>>53484857
It was targeted toward military users. Even had an X over the location of the hard drive platter to tell users where to fire their sidearm should it be in danger of capture.
>>53477269
I had this, it was fucking awesome. I had just got my first job (well if you discount being a paper boy) and thought "sweet, now I can afford a phone contract"
Unfortunately I fell off my bike one day and it smashed in my pocket. Maybe I could have got it repaired but I just bought a cheap Samsung Android phone to replace it (Galaxy Spica)
>>53477309
>it was shit
Except it wasn't, dunno what the fuck you were smoking
>Didn't stop me from being incredibly smug about my "linux based telephone with a proper keyboard"
I went on about the keyboard to people, not the Linux thing though (because I have normal friends)
>>53477337
Yup the G1 is awesome. My only minor gripe with it was that when you flipped open the screen, it never sat perfectly straight for me, one side of the screen drooped down just a little bit. You could push it so it was perfectly straight but it wouldn't stay there. The most pedantic thing I know, but it annoyed me.
>>53477373
Touch screen was capacitive. You obviously didn't have this phone.
>>53485363
I love Thinkpads.
>>53482274
>>beautiful design
I feel like the only person that doesn't find the Macbook good looking. It's too rounded and too bright. I prefer the Chromebook Pixel.
>>53485288
Where do I get one?
>>53485478
I personally love the way Macs look, and often consider getting one to gut it. You're right on that Chromebook though, beautiful.
>>53477269
There's a guide to dualboot Debian and Android on this thing, sadly the only links I found for some of the files were dead
It's not exactly on point but it's a little related, I recently got this beautiful tablet from China called the Chuwi Hi8, it runs full windows 10 and android on dual boot. It really makes me miss the old windows CE shit.
>>53486859
picture forgotten.
Also, the screen is 1920x1200!
>>53486904
What about macbook anon?
>>53477968
Yeah!
This-- the matrix phone.
>>53477415
Blackberry Passport
>>53478053
this was my favorite phone i ever had
till some nigger at the mall stole it
>>53482303
it's in the filename
>>53477839
Ergodox?
>>53487104
Dreamcast was good, but the best looking Sega console for me is the Saturn.
>>53476747
Im going to go cry now
Really cool little handheld
With an EZ Flash 4, it's great for portable vidya on the go
All of Motorola's phones from the mid-2000s were cool as fuck but it's always got to be the Razr.
>tfw Motorola aren't nearly as cool now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsRxJaa4ZpM
Any thinkpad with an old keyboard. GET WITH THE TIMES PEOPLE ITS 2016.
Quite possibly the prettiest phone ever
e-readers
>>53487235
Hell yeah, I have one of the Famicom 20th anniversary edition ones and I still love it. So tiny but still pretty comfortable to play on, and the screen is super nice. I love being able to keep in in pretty much any pocket without worrying about it taking up too much space.
>>53477244
what pray tell is this contraption?
smartwatch ca 2003
>>53487360
>fossil
heh
Quite like the white Wii U actually, looks like something you'd find inside a capsule in one of those capsule hotels in Japan.
>>53477490
HP still makes those, just search for "hp small form factor" or something like that.
>>53484889
Did it come with it's own sentry turret?
>>53487276
Sam pls
The Classic is a barely passable imitation
>>53487191
It looks good, but I think the Gamecube is the best looking console ever made
>>53477913
I have this. It's fucking awful for games.
>>53488279
I wish decent hardware would fit in that formfactor.
>>53488086
What's wrong with the Classic?
>>53488580
Nothing
>>53488580
non curved keyboard
trackpad is too small
non removable battery
My first gen Nintendo DS, it was like a PDA mixed with a handheld gaming device. Pictochat was amazing as a little kid, and the concept of playing Lego Star Wars II multiplayer with 4 people where only i needed the game, wirelessly, was mind blowing.
>>53488710
Oh god... I miss mine. Some nigger stole my backpack off the bus with my original DS and acekard in it back in 2011
>>53488682
>non curved keyboard
It's fine
>trackpad is too small
Nah, the only way they could improve is if they used a trackball
>non removable battery
This I agree with
Also
>BlackBerry Classic
>obsolete
Regardless of your opinion on the phone compared to its predecessor you're in the wrong thread
>>53488710
i used to stay up all night with mmy one friend drawing dicks with pictochat. best thing.
>>53488710
I still have my 2nd gen DS. I never really played it for a ton of hours and it's still sitting in my house somewhere. Also got a cartridge for it with a micro SD slot to play downloaded games.
>>53488771
>2nd gen DS
You mean a DS Lite?
>>53488397
Some phones have a problem with the bluetooth stack that makes nearly every bluetooth controller incredibly laggy and glitchy. If that;s the case with yours, you can either get a new rom or use one of the moga controllers. Those don't experience the bug for some reason.
>>53477269
Best mobile keyboard I've used. That thing was maximum comfy. I'd get another one in a heartbeat if I could get it with upgraded specs.
>>53488728
it had some insane range too, i was able to talk to my friend (draw dicks) from about a block away, and if you had a bunch of DS's in an area, the signals were transmitted through eachother, so you could possibly to talk to someone across town if you had a person connected to the chat every block
shame the network nintendo used for them is no longer in service, pictochat still works at least
>>53488793
Thx. I knew it had a real name but couldn't think of it.
>>53476747
The T/T3 sliders were much cooler designs if you ask me.
I'm thinking of grabbing one and actually using it, my E2 is pretty nifty as an offline productivity device.
>>53481497
Did you install Linux via HARET on the ARM side?
>inb4 no
You might want to kill yourself then.
>>53487142
Thanks, I'm stupid.
>>53488851
i also enjoyed colouring the whole screen black then writing with the eraser
I want to pick one of these up again some day. Nice, clean, timeless professional look, easily one of the best laptop keyboards I've ever used, clicky but not too loud, decent travel, satisfying to the touch. Plus the user-customizable inserts on the back of the display beat the shit out of stickers all day long.
With Linux you could also think of them as something of a poor man's Thinkpad 850/860, though they're not terribly architecturally related other than the same PowerPC 603e CPU.
tried to buy one years ago for a dumb terminal for a pentium. what a terrible idea.
>>53489957
was it too small?
>>53489989
no, I decided against buying it. I liked the size and I used ms-dos a lot for my home network. I thought I could have command.com mapped to a serial port.
>>53476747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwh0KH-ICCw
>>53490417
we had one pic related at our uni
>>53488279
everything about the gamecube is so comfy
>>53490305
you actually can but you can't do anything useful with it, since software redirects to the primary display
at least I think it does, I've never tried it with textmode stuff
>>53489034
I had one. The battery life was absolute crap and the d-pad was fairly shit compared to other models. Highly recommend you go with the TX or a Lifedrive instead.
>>53477196
>>53477264
>>53482325
>>53485507
dear lord i want one of those.
>>53491473
Devices without wasted space around the keyboard, amirite?
>>53490438
holy SHIT these things are so fucking cool, my dad has one. immensely satisfying to use
>>53487104
This was unbelievably ahead of its time
>>53486884
why the hell did they put proximity sensors on a tablet ?
>>53491276
Good to know, the T|X doesn't have the cool slider design but I still like it, about the same going rate too.
How do Palm browsers contend on the internet? I can't imagine they'd be that good, at least enough for wiki surfing?
>>53492232
You can get versions of Opera for it, so not that terrible for wikipedia. Careful if you're sensitive to high-pitched noises though, as nearly every Palm handheld emits a quit high-pitched buzzing sound from the screen. If you want the Palm OS I recommend going with a Sony Clie.
>>53492477
Yeah, I don't really mind it, I've got a ton of mostly mono palm handhelds and a Tungsten E2 that I've used on and off over the years. Clies seem pretty nice, haven't looked into them too much though.
>>53492232
>>53492477
There's also the Tapwave Zodiac, definitely one of the coolest handhelds ever made. Full analog stick, buttons, and TWO sd-card slots.
I bought Synchronicity on CD and pestered local stereo stores to let me listen to it, as I didn't own a CD player.
Or this. Sony was The Shit
>>53484889
>Even had an X over the location of the hard drive platter to tell users where to fire their sidearm should it be in danger of capture.
That is fucking nuts
>>53477215
A E S T H E T I C
>>53492818
ohshit, I had this very model growing up, except it was white in color.
>that nostalgia
>>53477296
>mechanical hd
>noram
>vista
>pissweak pre-smartphone x86
god imagine how slow that ran
>>53494459
I've got a UMPC with a Core Solo and it's honestly not that bad, however I'm not stupid enough to try running Vista on it
>>53487104
I've still got my Dreamcast, which I've recently discovered has stopped working. I now plan to gut it and put a Raspberry Pi 3 in it.
>>53480116
they dont let people upgrade theirs? shit should be trivial
>>53476747
Mine still works! Battery life sucks though.
>>53494527
Nah it's upgradeable, RAM and CPU sit in standard sockets and the GPU is socketed albeit proprietary
>>53477490
lenovo makes them and they look way less ugly.
>>53488397
no shit it looks fucking uncomfortable
>>53494549
>>53494527
>>53480116
If you put in an aftermarket GPU it actually pops up asking for $99 before it will boot.
>>53494659
Is it bad that I sort of believe you?
>>53494659
Sure bud
>>53494679
>>53494699
The GPU's BIOS needs to be signed by Apple unless you're a registered developer which is $99/yr
>>53476747
The Palm Zire m150 and 71 were fucking wonderful.
The former was indestructible, inexpensive, lightweight, and reliable. I also started to teach myself programming on it with SmallBASIC.
The latter did just about everything I needed it for back in the day, had good performance, good calibration/control, and so much more.
Both give me high octane nostalgia now.
>>53494708
Sure bud
>>53494715
Oh, and pics.
>>53477490
>trying to install windows 2000 with a 50X CD-ROM
does anyone else remember this pain?
>>53495358
no, but i do remember the pain of my UT'99 GOTY disc exploding in a 52x reader
thankfully i had a backup
>UMPCs in the past always came with pretty immense downsides
>now that it's 8 years since they were relevant, they're even more obsolete now
>we now have the tech to give them multi-day battery life, a 1080p color-accurate and beautiful screen, and speed equal to a ultralight netbook (all within a 4-8 inch case)
>perfect for web browsing, music playing, and everything, all with the full power of a desktop PC (just slower)
>the literal perfect UMPC could be made by any big company
>perfect LANUX support within days because kernel programmers are all over that shit
>it would be the literal last device I would ever buy, it would trump all else
>it won't happen because UMPCs are obsolete now
shit feels bad, man.
>>53487084
Holy shit what a disaster this thing was.
>>53496093
You're asking for a tablet with a physical keyboard, right?
All you fuckers just lost.
>>53496216
Tablets don't run a real operating system or sport the slew of ports/expandability options that a lot of UMPCs did.
Also, touch screens are garbage.
>>53496216
Yes to the keyboard, but size not so much. 4-8 inches, bro. Preferably in the 8 inches range. Also, not running locked down mobile OS bullshit.
Basically something like any of >>53491473 these, but running modern ULV x86, or alternately ARM (as long as I can install a Linux distro on it, I'm happy).
No trackpad, just a clitmouse, high quality display, long-lasting, replaceable battery, smaller keyboard (not thumb-typing sized, but smaller than average), etc. I hope you get the picture.
>>53496348
this
>>53496216
More like a 6" phone with a keyboard and a normal Linux distro. UPMC are usually pocketable and capable of being typed on while held.
>>53496400
something like this would be ideal. Although, since I'm seeing some disagreement in sizes, perhaps a variety of models?
UMPC 4" (with thumb-style keyboard), 6" (slightly more traditional), 8" (smol traditional keyboard)?
God, posting this hurts. I want one so bad. Pocket size PC (8" is pushing it but ech, people bought phablets).
>>53496348
>Tablets don't run a real operating system
>UNIX
>Linux
>"don't run a real operating system"
>>53496473
>the redditor that always gets buttblasted when people shit on his gimped toy operating systems with application bases comprised entirely of shitty JS web front-ends with interfaces designed for ham planets that don't know how to use a stylus
You're late, better luck next time.
>>53496447
I said 6" because my 5.7" phone is easily pocketable. 7 or 8" is doable if the screen bezel is small like phablets. The anon's comment of "a tablet with a physical keyboard" made me think of those giant bezeled 7 inch tablets which suck.
4" seems too tiny. 6" and 8" versions would be nice. I think 6 would work with thumb keyboards.
>>53496473
>tablets
>Android, iOS or Windows
>none with the control a full laptop or desktop gives you over the hardware
>best you can do is root Android, jailbreak iOS, and uh... Nothing on Windows
>only alternative is Ubuntu Tablet
>Ubuntu
>still locked down as far as I know
>no physical keyboard
>10"
literally nothing out today meets the requirements I like. Don't mention OpenPandora either, because that's a gayming handheld, is a total brick, too small, and doesn't look like it has a replaceable battery.
A motherfucking fucking car that doesn't run on electricity.
>tfw 1990-2010 was the bloom of the car we all know about:
>already fast
>gas still cheap as fuck
>all you can wish for, even ac
Nowadays cars are still okay, but the end is nigh. Gas prices will rise into the unpayable, taxes will be risen, fees for streets will be asked for soon enough, street are getting plastered with speeding cameras, engines start becoming shit because muh downsizing and "environmental footprint".
>>53496559
>Wanting a maximum of 300 miles
>Thinking that the battery waste is more efficient and eco-friendly than gasoline
You can't seriously be that fucking stupid can you?
>>53496536
3.5" worked with the sexiest phone of all time, so I think 4" would do okay for a terminal. Obviously a full desktop environment would not even be comprehensible on that screen, but a terminal or a specially designed DE would.
Still, you have a point. 6" is probably the sweet spot; 7-8" if, as you said, super thin bezel. I mean, all that we're talking about is doable, but only if you already have a manufacturing contract with Foxconn.
Honestly, if the tech industry was more like the clothing industry, I'd be happier. The clothing industry isn't afraid to appeal to weird ass niches, and at a reasonable price at that.
The tech industry just isn't. Which sucks.
>>53496577
Post yfw electric won't run out but gas will
>>53496581
I've got a 4.5" UMPC and full DE works fine
>>53496559
Ethanol vehicles are the easiest alternative. Natural gas is next easiest and would be my preferred option. It's a fairly easy conversion going from petrol ICE to ethanol or natural gas.
>>53496624
wachu got m80? How usable is it?
>>53496631
You can convert to propane too
>>53496624
Well, I mean, obviously it'll RUN, I'm just worried about eye strain; I have little enough real estate on a 1280x800 11" panel, I can't imagine anything smaller than 7" or so working with a floating WM. Maybe if you post pics of your UMPC, it'd help?
>>53496577
>>53496577
>Wanting a maximum of 300 miles
As a german that's exactly what I want, yes.
Security cucks like you ruining the fun for everybody, just because you're too unsecure after 120KM/h.
If you die on the streets, it's your own fault. Watch TRON until you get it.
>>53477450
>Nokia
RIP. Seriously, why didn't they just roll with Android? Imagine Droids having Nokia's wacky experimentation with form factors.
>>53480143
Vaio P with pic.
>>53478887
No, I think its like 5 or 6
>>53496704
Nokia 5310 was GOAT
>>53496647
>>53496667
Vaio VGN-UX180P
As far as device size and screen size goes I've got to say it's a sweetspot. It's got a 1024x600 screen but at 4.5" that's 263PPI. With a Core Solo and 512MB RAM it's a little lacking but for browsing, SSH, and even light gaming it works great.
>>53496730
What's the battery life on that thing? It looks pretty nice, but I'm the kind of guy who stays wall-agnostic for hours on end. Do you run XP on it? Or some linux/BSD/etc distro?
>>53494522
please don't do that.
They're becoming pretty rare, and replacing the laser (im assuming thats what broked) is cheap and easy.
>>53496730
Looks good. 4.5" was making me think 800x600 but that res looks pretty usable.
>>53496750
>battery life
4.5 hours with the extended battery which is perfectly fine for what I use it for but I'm still going to recell it with some modern 18650s
>OS
I've got it dualbooting POSReady 2009 and OpenBSD
>>53496804
Oooh, nice. You'll have to post about your setup after you get the recell done. That actually sounds like a pretty decent setup.
>>53496093
>>perfect for web browsing, music playing, and everything, all with the full power of a desktop PC (just slower)
But that's exactly what phones are now-a-days. All they need is a flip keyboard and a desktop OS.
>>53496835
Thanks, I'm installing an mSATA SSD and maybe a few other upgrades too, this thing's become my new project. I'll post updates in relevant threads
>>53496873
And freedom to install whatever you want on it.
But yeah, that's basically what I'm saying: a difference in firmware, and the addition of a physical keyboard, would make my dream device come true. But as it stands, mobile phones are too severely locked down and basically useless for my tastes. But we have the tech, so all it takes is a hobbyist line to take off from a major manufacturer.
>>53496887
Sounds good. What relevant threads are there, actually? I don't follow any generals.
>>53496910
Every once in a while UMPC threads pop up, if the comfy device general keeps popping up that'll be your best bet to find updates
>>53496910
Check out what Canonical was trying to do with Ubuntu Edge which sort-of has been spiritually succeeded by Microsoft with Continuum but in a more locked-down fashion.
>>53496873
I don't find phones perfect for browsing at all, they're too tall in portrait and too wide in landscape, touch screens are total trash and so are most mobile sites (even though they're slightly better on such a shit display compared to the desktop version)
But honestly, I'd contend just with a laptop-style keyboard with arrow/pgup-pgdn keys to allow me to scroll without running my thumb across the screen repeatedly like a shit-eating ape.
>>53497095
>have BlackBerry
>tfw can scroll with space and shift space
>>53496577
I don't understand how having more than 300mile range is even relevant
95% of the US population doesn't drive further than 30km's a day.
A 100 mile range is already overkill for almost everyone.
>>53497174
Some people like to drive. I'd rather keep gas station visits to every few weeks like they are currently than change it to every few days.
>>53497174
what about charging time though?
right now if you have the situation of;
>need to travel 30k but only have ~10k worth of gas
you just drive to a gas station and spend a couple minutes to fill it up, and you're on your way
>>53497235
hmm, thinking about it, i suppose you'd just have to be careful to plug it in when it's parked at home, since that will be an option
though that still doesn't cover if you want to travel more distance than the batteries can do, as once you run out of power, you can't "recharge" in a minute like at a gas station
>>53497174
>I will never use my car as anything but a glorified mobility scooter so that means everyone else won't either
You aren't having sex every minute of your life, does that mean you cut your dick off? It's nice to have a car I can take on a long trip without worrying whether or not some shithole in the middle of nowhere will happen to have my car's brand of proprietary quick charging station.
>>53497296
Let me repeat myself:
95% of the US population never drives more than 30km a day
You're bitching that electrics aren't catering to 5% of the population's driving habits.
And, in fact, 300 mile range covers all the way up to 99.999% of drivers
Literally just dumbfucks looking for reasons not to like electrics.
>>53497488
>Literally just dumbfucks looking for reasons not to like electrics.
You mean people that aren't you with different opinions than you that don't like electrics for valid reasons. We're not looking for reasons, we're stating our reasons you stupid shit
>>53485478
Pixel looks better but Mac's still look awesome.
>>53488710
Mine still gets pretty regular use with my library along with my CycloDS/EZflash 3in1
Wish the online wasn't dead
>>53497488
I'm not bitching or looking for a reason to not like anything, I haven't even been following the discussion, I'm just poking a hole in your shitty argument based on an average which is an absolutely shitty metric when it comes to how people drive their cars.
A soccer mom may spend most of their time driving their hummer to and from their local walmart, but it doesn't mean they don't also take the occasional long road trip, and an electric shitbox with a tiny range just won't do for that.
>>53488279
It looked like a toy. I don't mean that as an insult either. It looked fun to play. The games available on it were fun to play. That was a time before limited single player/enforced multiplayer, achievements/trophies/whatever, and DLC bullshit. A time when gaming was still fun.
>>53496544
Pretty sure ubango touch is not locked down
>>53497235
Charging time on the new tasla is ~20 minutes
>>53487104
mark3 are beautiful
>>53487375
I have the black one for space but really wanted it to be white for pretty much this exact reason.
Quick question because I know nothing about tech, would giving a box a silicon cover potentially ruin the tech inside? Due to heat or fucking whatever.
>>53477490
yeah, my work machine is a very new lenovo in that form factor. while my coworker stub their toes on towers, that sits on my desk next to me, making a nice little wall between my team lead and I.
>>53481534
a friend bought one, and with in a week he'd sent it back and then bought a droid 2, which he sent back in a month and just went apple for everything, and he was so fucking smug about how smart the latest decision was each time.
>>53477196
Such a sexy machine too bad they were stupid expensive and SLOW as fuck.
>>53488710
Has nothing on the White DS Lite.
Surface book pro. I know id have immediate buyers remorse, but it looks so pretty.
>>53498750
I meant surface book, excuse me didn't have my coffee yet.
>>53497767
I also don't care about range, that few times a year that I need to get somewhere further with no time to waste on charging I would just take rental.