> fell for the debian meme
> can't update gnome
how the fuck do i do this
you install openbox + tinit2 and have a good desktop experience
by installing arch or fedora
>>53473901
Either upgrade to testing https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting
or install Ubuntu Gnome or Fedora.
>>53473901
>muh stability
You are not supposed to update anything.
>>53473901
install fedora
>>53473901
install Xfce, GNOME is terrible
>Debian
>update
kek
>>53473901
>Wanting to use unstable software
Nice meme. Wait until that gnome update is considered stable.
>>53474705
OP will be dead when the update will be released
>>53474792
Better then experiencing system crashes!
>>53473901
I'm assuming you're using Debian in a home PC. Well, you must NEVER use Debian Stable on a home home pc, they're meant for servers.
You want Debian Testing. it's the "everyday use" version. Get to that first.
Once you have the right version installed, you can update GNOME and everything else using Synaptic (GUI) or apt-get (CLI).
>>53473901
>gnome
>>53474870
>you must NEVER
you're clearly retarded, anon
>debian
Are you running a server OP?
>>53474898
English is not my native language. I'm a spic.
>>53475001
literally a border away from USA, can't speak proper English - are you retarded?
>>53475028
about 20 borders actually, I'm from Chile.
DESIGNATED
>>53474584
Literally this, but for all the wrong reasons.
GNOME/SystemD is a Red Hat conspiracy to turn Linux into a flaky mess, thus forcing all businesses using Linux to pay Red Hat for support contracts.
If you want the optimal GNOME/SystemD system then you had better be running a Red Hat OS.
>>53474584
>1998 packages
FOKEN BLOATED
>>53474870
>you must NEVER use Debian Stable on a home home pc
being using stable for years now, there's nothing wrong with it
>stable PC release is meant for servers
kek
>>53475563
of course there isn't, but sometimes you want the latest packages and the easy way to get them is Testing.
>>53473901
Why can't I get a Window Manager to work properly?
>cinnamon start menu random disappears after returning from the lock screen sometimes
>LXDE is missing logout functionality and lock screen functionality
>Unity is garbage
Fucking Cannonical. I should have installed Mint.
>>53475736
installing multiple DE's (or one after the other) will leave them all unstable.
>>53475865
so should I uninstall all of them except one?
The only reason I started installing more was that the current ones broke.
>>53475917
Yes, that's the way to go.
Next time try OS install + WM, and if it doesn't work well and you want to try another WM, go for a clean install + the other WM/DE.
>>53475979
I installed Ubuntu back when I had no idea what I was doing. I wish I had chosen pretty much anything else.
That is a huge pain in the ass. I guess I'll install mint + cinnamon at some point, since it seems to be the most competent seeming WM.
>>53475028
>a foreign country next to us should be expected to speak a language that's not their native language
American education at its finest.
>>53476013
Cinnamon is solid af but the mint repos are a bit old. Consider LMDE.
So did anyone find out what REALLY happened to Ian Murdock?
>>53473911
literally this
>>53476042
I don't want to experiment with WMs anymore. I just want something that works.
>>53476086
LMDE is Linux Mint Debian Edition. It's pretty much Debian Testing + Cinnamon preconfigured in a nice comfy .iso.
>>53473901
>fell for the gentoo meme
>!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
>!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
>>53476105
I guess I'll look into that. I'm not an expert on GRUB, can I just install LMDE to a new SSD and then have my old GRUB still work? I don't want to accidentally kill my Windows install since Windows is a huge pain in the ass to deal with.
You realise you have to choose between mostly stable (actually works) and something that's had updates within the past decade
>>53474584
fuck guhnome is ugly
>>53476161
GRUB goes before Windows loader, so you can destroy it and then reinstall it and your Windows install will still be there. Fixing GRUB is easy so don't worry if you screw up.
>>53476320
Yeah I knew that, but I'm always paranoid that somehow my Windows will become inaccessible.
>Fixing GRUB is easy so don't worry if you screw up
That's good at least. I only have one computer, so I really don't want to brick it.
Thanks for the help.
For desktop you want rolling release like Arch (Antergos for beginners who refuse to read), server side you go Debian stable with Docker and KVM/qemu for all services
>>53477469
or you can value your time and install something which just works
>>53477482
Yes, my point exactly. Thanks for summarizing
>>53473901
>how the fuck do i do this
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
>>53477538
I was more talking about arch. it comes without most security features and you need to config it all and if you made a single fuckup your progran doesn't work/ your system is vulnerable. No thanks, ill have the the maintainers do that work for me.
>>53474870
Using oldstable on my home PC.
>maximum stability
>>53475028
Do you speak perfect Spanish?
>>53477667
No he is from chile
