Can someone actually explain to me without memes why running windows 10 and Google Chrome is considered "muh botnet.
it's not like there're 9001 other archived threads about this same question...
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>>53447041
It's me spouted by retards that don't realise EVERYTHING is a botnet these days. If the Government wants your info, they'll fucking get it. Doesn't matter what browser you use.
>>53447041
for starters those two you mentioned know every single thing you typed one your keyboard
>>53447067
*It's a meme
They can't. They'll tell you about the backlog that microsoft and google keeps of your activities. and yes they might be right, BUT if you believe that these billion dollar companies care about what someone out of a population of 7 bill might be doing in their mum's basement, youre wrong. Its just a safety net to project their own buggy opensource softwares which might never get the appeal or the $$$ of the mainstream market. Oh and yes, majority of the nerds claiming that the corporate giants are out to get you and make you part of their botnet plan are linux users. let that sink in
>>53447074
With Win 10, if you set it up that way.
With Chrome, well, no fucking shit, it's the fucking point of a browser. You type shit in, it gives you shit.
>>53447041
because freetards are jelly of superior software
t.pajeet nigger sjw scum
>>53447126
The new /g/
>>53447126
what you are saying is this
"i used the bathroom in the coffee shop so of course he has a vid of me peeing"
>>53447118
Microsoft are very interested in you, personally. You are money.
Your profile - the things you look at, your preferences, your likes and dislikes, your politics, your social circle, your music tastes, you food choices... etc, etc. - can be bought and sold.
There's also the added bonus that your profile will be of use to security services, if you ever become "of interest".
The more you know, the less of a cunt you are.
>>53447214
Because the point of a bathroom is to record you pissing?
Go on, explain what's so bad about a browser helping you to find shit better and faster.
Privacy is simply a question of comfort. You can waste your time and take huge efforts to stay relatively anonymous and prevent companies and the government spying on you and what would you gain from it? Slow ass Firecuck or some alternative that's even worse? Barely helpful FuckfuckGo results?
Obviously people should think about the shit they reveal but there is no downside for you if google knows that you fap to traps, specially if it helps you to find better trap porn faster. Internet is the antithesis of privacy, keep that in mind and you'll be fine.
>>53447290
Yes, thats how products and services are tailor made to consumers. Facebook collects this data and its outsourced to different companies, microsofit, google are two of them. You need to be a complete dimwit to not know this in this day and age. Problem is, they dont care about YOU but your tastes if it concerns their agenda. So the whole botnet philosophy is refuted here, since if they know about your tastes, how would it harm you? how would it put you in danger? the whole world is interconnected mate. the only way to escape this is to head over to antartica or amazon and live there
>>53447290
oh no some guy at the NSA knows I jerk off to trannies
>>53447326
>Because the point of a bathroom is to record you pissing?
because the point of a browser is to store my preferences and habits to be sold to advertising?
google and microsoft are advertising companies in case you didnt notice
and dont freak out, im not telling you that someone righht now is sitting on a pc looking what im typing. it proly will never happen for me, you and most people simply because we r insignificant .
but to pretend that they dont store data on us is simply retarded.
and i try to avoid it as much as i can just for the hell of it.
if cnn appears after i type cn is not much of a comfort to justify them keeping my keystrokes.
>>53447344
>Yes, thats how products and services are tailor made to consumers.
A "consumer" is defined by choice. They choose what they want and don't want. Microsoft isn't giving users of Windows 10 any choice at all. Your profile doesn't belong to you; your data, belong to Microsoft. It's even in their EULA.
> So the whole botnet philosophy is refuted here
Philosophy? The "botnet" as characterized on /g/ is real. You can opt out by not using software that expoits user data.
>since if they know about your tastes, how would it harm you?
It's apparent logic isn't your strong point.
>how would it put you in danger?
I guess you've never studied history...
>>53447359
You might not have an interest in politics, but politics has an interest in you.
>>53447149
>implying freetards isn't filled with SJW
>>53447437
come on now youre just nitpicking. As this anon posted >>53447411 they do have your data, which is known, but it would do you no harm, unless youre fapping to the degenerate stuff. They dont care about your interest in traps or hentai, they dont have enough time or storage to store all that shit, it might be there now but it will be gone tomorrow if its of no use to them. NOBODY is out to get you unless youre doing something illegal. chill out mate
>>53447475
And the NSA is just a conspiracy theory too, right?
>>53447454
yeah I'm sure American politics care about some foreign neet lmao get real
>>53447041
Because google shows you personalized ads and profile you with whatever they can get from their services. Companies that advertise on the internet love this because you can choose who should view your ads.
Microsoft and all the other companies are adapting this scheme because google is so successful. In the future everything is probably going to be free with full of personalized ads.
Why would you ask this question if you don't care about privacy? Is this your form of trolling? It seems like you already know what our answers are going to be, so why even bother?
>>53447411
>because the point of a browser is to store my preferences and habits
If it helps you to find stuff faster and more precise, yes. Advertising is just a side effect ... that doesn't really affect you. Honestly, who cares whether you get the "10% viagra" or a "win a free toaster" ad. A much more concerning idea is potential employers buying the data but given how probably everybody got some ... unorthodox searches, I doubt the effect would be too big.
>to pretend that they dont store data on us
Nobody does that. Just they way it's done is usually ... not presented very correctly. There is no sensible reason to assume that MS stores everything you do if you got the shit disabled. Google obviously stores everything they can get from you but they offer different services.
>if cnn appears after i type cn is not much of a comfort to justify them keeping my keystrokes
That's a question everybody should answer for themselves, and can. If the downside overweight the positives for you, feel free to use services that don't do it.
>>53447437
>Microsoft isn't giving users of Windows 10 any choice at all.
For one, there is the choice to use their shit. For other, the settings.
God, I feel dirty for "defending" Microshit.
>>53447326
Firefox is not slow and Duckduckgo has much less malware than Google in the search results.
>>53447497
no mate theyre real. Im not denying that; it would be pure ignorance to do that. But their interests are vested in something more valuable than what you and I do, presuming you browse chans and watch porn. If youre into deeper shit they are definitely out to get you, if thats not the case, you need to take it easy then. botnet is just a meme to shill freetard/buggy software. get over it
>>53447475
Your personal profile is money to advertisers.
>they dont have enough time or storage to store all that shit.
You're ignorance is apparent. They are storing your personal data that can be bought and sold. That is why they are collecting it. It's Profit driven.
>but it would do you no harm,
Do you browse /pol/?
What kind of person do you think browses /pol/ on a regular basis?
>>53447531
Unless you actually use your personal data, YOUR privacy isn't effected either way. Google doesn't have the power to contact your ISP to get your name.
>>53447500
>American
Governments are very interested in their populations. They currently gather mass data communications and store it for data mining purposes.
This is actually happening now.
>>53447550
mate Im an advertising major. I know how and why companies invest in data to make and sell choices. Im not ignorant, I just dont give into the whole idea of 'theyre out to get you, use duckduckslow'. I know they record everything we do, but it shouldnt concern you if all it does is make products and services better and more tailor made. Ive been using firefox with adblockers since years and have hardly ever encountered any ads, I dont see how thats much of a problem.
>>53447535
>For one, there is the choice to use their shit. For other, the settings.
This doesn't turn off telemetry. It isn't possible to turn telemetry off.
>>53447571
oh no mutti knows I jerk it to girls with dicks
>>53447564
You still haven't answered my question. But regardless, I'm leaving this troll thread.
>>53447571
oh no obama knows I jerk off to tentacle hentai
>>53447540
>Firefox is not slow
Hahaha ... haha ... ha ... shit, you probably believe it too. If you don't "believe" all the benchmarks, just install Chrome and do a test.
>Duckduckgo has much less malware than Google in the search results
"Much less" is the modus operandi with duckduckgo after all.
>>53447584
Telemetry is hardly personal data. "Oh, this computer clicked on start 32525 times. explorer.exe crashed when anon opened a file"
>>53447548
Maybe I don't want the details of my life becoming a commodity to be sold by people I'll never meet?
Regardless of their intentions, they intend to build a profile on me, which is entirely out of my control, and is potentially obtainable by anybody. Even if it doesn't directly hurt me now, it's a breach of my privacy and could be used against me.
>>53447582
>mate Im an advertising major.
Then you've read "The Space Merchants". Everyone is advertising has. I need say no more.
> but it shouldnt concern you if all it does is make products and services better and more tailor made
What concerns me is: my personal profile is being bought and sold without my consent. I'm not given a choice in the matter, and other prople are profiting from my personal data.
>>53447590
You might not have an interest in politics, but politics has an interest in you.
Hopefully, you'll never come to understand what this means. For your own sake.
>>53447628
>>53447639
Okay I get your point. You both are arguing for the same thing: You dont want them putting tabs on you regardless of whether it directly hurts you or not. If thats the case, then I cant change your opinion because youve already made up your mind. Honestly, I couldnt give a damn, I dont have that much time or concern. You could of course think otherwise. it was nice having a chat, anon. take care.
>>53447609
I don't need artificial benchmarks, I actually use Firefox on a regular basis. Certain heavy userscripts and websites do work a lot slower than in a Chromium based browser, but if that's the price to pay for the customization power Firefox offers, I'll go for it.
>>53447676
> I actually use Firefox on a regular basis
Which is useless unless you use Chromium based stuff for a comparison too. 2ch took a damn while to open compared to Chrome and I have cancerous Internet.
Though sure, Firefox customization is vastly ahead, pretty cute minimal borders too. Though I sure prefer faster browsing. For everybody their own.
>>53447548
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/03/10/surprise-nsa-data-will-soon-routinely-be-used-for-domestic-policing-that-has-nothing-to-do-with-terrorism/
>>53447601
>>53447590
http://webm.
host/1b000/vid.webm
>>53447529
See I don't get this though. I understand advertisers are paying for this, but do they really see a return on personalized ads? I've never clicked on anything I recognized to be personalized for me. If I see something that I'm interested in, happened once, I go out of my way to go to the website directly not through the ad. Are there people who actually click on the ads?
>>53448081
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/debatten/the-digital-debate/shoshana-zuboff-secrets-of-surveillance-capitalism-14103616-p2.html?printPagedArticle=true
>>53447582
>advertising major
Why should we believe any of your arguments? You are clearly biased
>>53448255
dont believe them. I wanted to say something, which I did, I couldnt care less from here on
>>53448127
I can see the modifiying personal behavior I suppose. I did notice suggested locations to me, but I largely ignore those as well.
The rest of the article devolved into tl;dr Everyone wants to be Google
>>53447041
several services mediate basic access to huge swaths of websites, e.g. google captcha, cloudflare, paypal, gmail, facebook, etc. all have a vested interest in behavioral data for marketing purposes, selling the data to thousands of maketing/data aggregation firms/ad networks that also collect their own data. these are routinely subpeona'd and circulated by government offices at every level.
it's not a botnet by itself, but your average government office and middling ad agency is not known for having good or any security. therefore you can be sure the above data is also being used by botnet ops/spammers/malware spam
>>53448431
so microsoft and google have fine security themselves (bordering on security theatre with sign-in notifications), but their "partners" you authorized them to sell your data to are easy picking for many diverse millions of nefarious people.
>>53447326
>explain what's so bad about a browser helping you to find shit better and faster.
I look for a vid of myself peeing. Tomorrow I want a vid of myself pooping but all I can find are videos of myself peeing because now google thinks thats all I want and it won't show me anything else.
After reading this I'm naw happily using Chrome on windows 10. I lm ok with them seeing me pee
