Are you excited about the new Loongson MIPS64 processor?
It has better integer performance than AMD FX-8320, but costs much much less.
>>53221944
Can it run Crysis?
>performance per Ghz
seems like an odd metric. Most people care about the absolute performance of the CPU, then power consumption next if it's for something battery powered.
>>53221944
That graph says it has significantly less integer performance per ghz than an FX8320 and barely any more fp performance.
Not bad. Is it open-hardware?
>>53221997
this
Can it run x86 software and OSs without a huge bottleneck. This is the most important part.
>not an x86 architecture
So it's fucking nothing.
>>53222135
Nothing in the chart is x86. Two are x86-64.
>>53222204
Sorry I thought saying x86 meant x86_32 and x86_64 by default. My point still stands though.
>>53222135
>>53222120
>muh windows
>>53222242
x86-* is garbage, I'm waiting for something stomping it to the ground. E.g. POWER.
>>53222267
You linux runs on x86 too right? All servers/super computers mostly run on x86 linux or windows Einstein.
>>53222270
Pro tip: POWER is basically kill outside the supercomputer niche. Not even banks are buying the IBM Power servers.
>>53222288
not sure if bait
>>53222288
Linux runs on Alpha, ARC, ARM, AVR32, Blackfin, C6x, ETRAX CRIS, FR-V, H8/300, Hexagon, Itanium, M32R, m68k, META, Microblaze, MIPS, MN103, Nios II, OpenRISC, PA-RISC, PowerPC, s390, S+core, SuperH, SPARC, TILE64, Unicore32 and Xtensa.
And yes, technically also x86.
>>53222301
It is. Notice he said "All" and "mostly" in the same sentence.
>>53222288
A reasonable amount of GNU/Linux distros are happy to use MIPS. Even a few stallman-autism ones.
Outside of Windows-x86 monopoly all sorts of platforms exist (and are still used to an extent) ARM, MIPS, PowerPC, SPARC, etc.
>>53222294
Why? Because of pricing?
>>53222311
>>53222328
But the useful versions of linux (that things like servers use) runs on x86 you tards. All the other cpu architectures are a joke.
>>53222328
Let's not forget that a very significant chunk of machines running the Linux kernel are using ARM.
(Spoiler: Android)
>>53222344
Because everything already werks on x86, AMD64 and ARM. Why buy into niche hardware, then requiring a dedicated software package.
>>53222382
>useful versions of linux
It's not like the kernel is significantly different between the platforms.
>>53222270
Saying it doesn't make it true. Nothing has better single threaded performance. POWER8 has more threads per core with decent single threaded performance, which makes it a good choice for virtually any server task. Not so competitive in the world of gaymen and definitely overkill for desktop use as the majority of the threads would sit idle.
>>53222425
Eh, most servers run Linux so if a distro like redhat or centos supported the architecture you'd be gtg
>>53222382
>But the useful versions of linux (that things like servers use) runs on x86 you tards. All the other cpu architectures are a joke.
Well then, let's look at some Linux server distros.
Ubuntu Server
http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimages/14.04/release/
>amd64, powerpc, ppc64el
CentOS Core
https://wiki.centos.org/Download
>amd64, aarch64, armhfp, i386, ppc64le, ppc64
Debian netinstall
https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst
>amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
Gentoo
https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/
>amd64, x86, alpha, arm, hppa, ia64, ppc, sparc, mips, s390, sh4
I see plenty of non-x86 choices that are widely supported, notably PowerPC.
My uni actually deploys and maintains some PowerPC servers as part of their core infrastructure, mostly Sun machines.
>>53222445
POWER8 literally has lower serial integer performance than AMD's Piledriver.
The many thread per core approach is the pinnacle of diminishing returns and wasted silicon.
>>53222465
>My uni actually deploys and maintains some PowerPC servers as part of their core infrastructure, mostly Sun machines.
That's sad. Are you in community college?
>>53222484
I'm at one of the largest and richest CS universities in Germany.
If you actually liked playing around with hardware you'd enjoy the appeal of working with unusual platforms.
>>53222270
>x86-* is garbage
>Xeon D-1540
>8 physical 14nm x86 cores at 2 - 2.6 GHz
>over 10k in passmark
>max tdp of 45 watts
>garbage
sure thing kid
>>53222525
holy shit
>>53222525
Jesus fucking christ, that's crazy.
>>53222525
Yeah the new D series are sick and waaaay less power usage than the old Xeons. Only downside is price right now.
>>53222525
How fast it can it encode my animu?
>>53222594
Too fast. This isn't for consumers you know, I think the chip is like $800 right now.
>>53222470
It's great for server applications. There's definitely a trade off though.
>>53222525
lol, did mips ever have a chance?
>>53222576
Pro tip: the chip is _SOLDERED_ onto the motherboard
>>53222619
>fuckton of power consumption
>for servers
Are you high?
>>53222630
some routers run on MIPS processors if that counts for anything.
>>53222635
Are you retarded?
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-GG8067401635553-Xeon-D-1540-FCBGA1167/dp/B00UPCIRGM
>tfw it's on sale for $680
>>53222630
I'm pretty sure MIPS was developed to be an educational instruction set, used for teaching. I'm confused that its being used on actual silicon.
>>53222525
>8 laptop ULV cores - Integrated graphics
Imagine how fucking fast desktop Intel chips would be without the shitty Integrated Graphics. Given the same current 65-87W TDP.
>>53222668
>I'm confused that its being used on actual silicon.
It's pretty much being used only because it's unencumbered by patents.
The whole point of the Loongson is to make a CPU that can runs on fully free soft- and firmware, and with all documentation on the chip design being open to the end user.
>>53222664
>FCBGA1167
>BGA
>>53222640
>POWER8 isn't good for servers
Ok, sure, whatever you say.
>>53222618
>$800
>tray price for the cpu itself is $580
yeah, you are $220 off there buddy.
>>53222664
>FCBGA
you dont know what that is do ya?
>>53222793
Not him but why is intel even selling the uber efficient processor separately?
>>53221997
Yes.
It handles x86 code Just fine.
>>53222927
It actually emulates the ability to run x86. It can't natively run x86 code. There's gonna be a huge bottleneck because of that.
>>53222874
Because ARM-based server chips are coming on market.
>>53222945
Shush
>>53222732
Not that dude but yes servers need to be somewhat efficient. They don't have to be Atom/D-series levels of low power but in datacenters there's a limit to the amount of power than can go through each cable to the PDU in the racks. The end user doesn't care but the people managing the racks need to take this into account
>>53221997
I'm still waiting for Crysis_MIPS
>>53223022
Yes, to a certain extent but you also need to consider performance per unit volume. Performance per watt for multithreaded applications on the POWER8 chips isn't too bad either.
>>53222525
Pour billions of dollars into it and you'd be surprised at how well you can polish shit. In the end it's still shit though, even if it's shiny.
>>53223253
Agreed, mips has been and always will be shit.
>>53223273
Yeah okay buddy
>>53223253
Well, even if it's polished shit, it's the shiniest thing on the market. What's that say about the competitors? Are they a loosely collected ball of diarrhoea?
>>53223341
No, they're a collection of actual things to be shined that are just behind because of the sheer amount of money Intel has to pour into their architecture.
>>53222945
Can it emulate crysis?
Whats with the hate for any non x86 and AMD64 architecture im seeing on /g/ these days?
Why would you hate an architecture itself? Its just a set of ideas
Who else MIPS here? I've got a Creator CI20 too but it's down at the moment# cat /proc/cpuinfo
system type : Atheros AR9330 (Hornet)
processor : 0
cpu model : MIPS 24Kc V7.4
BogoMIPS : 266.24
wait instruction : yes
microsecond timers : yes
tlb_entries : 16
extra interrupt vector : yes
hardware watchpoint : yes, count: 4, address/irw mask: [0x0000, 0x0488, 0x0050, 0x00d0]
ASEs implemented : mips16
shadow register sets : 1
core : 0
VCED exceptions : not available
VCEI exceptions : not available
>>53222484
>Commmunity College
>PowerPC
>PowerPC Sun
You know PPC is fuckexpensive, specially power consumption wise?
And that Sun hardware is even more fuckexpensive?
Fucking underage faggots
>>53223253
Unfortunately, for some reason, Intel could never polish anything but x86
They tried a few variants of RISC stuff, and they also tried creating their own ISA from scratch, we all know how they failed miserably on all of them, specially IA64
>>53224039
Shills, also don't call it AMD64, it triggers them
>>53224087
I dont have a MIPS machine so i'll just post my ARM64 oneProcessor : AArch64 Processor rev 2 (aarch64)
processor : 0
BogoMIPS : 26.00
processor : 1
BogoMIPS : 26.00
Features : fp asimd aes pmull sha1 sha2 crc32
CPU implementer : 0x41
CPU architecture: AArch64
CPU variant : 0x0
CPU part : 0xd03
CPU revision : 2
Hardware : MT6752
Its an 8 core CPU, pretty strong
>>53222493
>If you actually liked playing around with hardware
He doesn't. He's a consumer. He doesn't have time for egghead shit, because he's too busy showing off his iPhone to all his friends who have the same iPhone, while they all eagerly await the next round to be released. Don't knock the lifestyle. It's not easy to learn how to fill out webforms, enter your CC#, and then wait by the door for Fedex or UPS to bring you your new precious.
I just want a quad core MIPS Warrior CPU for my server.
>>53222445
Most tasks requiring power benefit from ore threads.
Games are for children and are designed by retards.
>>53222493
Saarbrücken ?
