>>53216818
BSDCan looks awesome. I'm excited about the 8 OpenBSD talks.
http://www.bsdcan.org/2016/list-of-talks.txt

So this is the place to ask questions? Okay, so, I've been planning on installing OpenBSD on my Thinkpad x201. Last time I tried it, suspend would totally break the system, requiring a force restart to make it work.

I know there's supposed to be laptop-sane configs, but there's little to no documentation on it. That or I'm just retarded.

So, anyone run OpenBSD on a laptop? Anything I need to know before diving in?

>>53218223
Always try running from snapshots.
Thinkpad x201 should work very well - when did you last try?

I've been having issues with suspend/resume aswel, its because coreboot doesn't like my current RAM modules.
I now disabled suspend/resume and use hibernation in stead.

>>53217842
It's only 30 minutes away from where I live.

I kind of want to go.

>>53218551
>only 30 minutes away
Why wouldn't you go? Don't worry, there will be many other awkward dudes walking around.

>>53218620
I've never been to a university in my life, but I do know that parking is overpriced as hell.

>>53218496
Thanks for the advice. I last tried in January, actually; did you do any extra config after installing, other than running from snapshots?

BSD has even less driver support than Linux.

Into Le trash it goes

>>53218655
I recommend using spectrwm (tiled) as a window manager for a small thinkpad.
It's lightweight and developed by an OpenBSD user so it just works.
(I run almost everything full-screen and cycle between workspaces).

If you want a "full" DE go for XFCE or Gnome

I use xdm for logging in - but don't enable it during installation, enable it after you're sure your "startx" works.

Do installation with ethernet cable hooked up - Im not sure about the x201 but my x230 needs extra firmware (iwn - wifi firmware) which is downloaded on first boot.

I found those 2 blog posts quite helpful:
http://geekyschmidt.com/2011/03/27/openbsd-laptop-mini-howto
http://eradman.com/posts/openbsd-workstation.html
(Make sure you run apmd).

You could use snap (https://github.com/qbit/snap) for automated snapshot upgrades.
You might also be interested in a script for managing wifi: https://github.com/search?q=openbsd+wireless&type=Repositories

>>53218806
I want to say CWM (which comes with OpenBSD) is enough for any laptop user.

It is one of the best window managers I've ever used.

Does that FreeBSD autist still ruin BSD threads?

>>53218806
Thank you, Anon! This is very good advice. I'll try all this. Thanks again for the info.

>>53218840
Yes.

I'd rather have angelaposting.

>>53218716
That only matters if you want to run it on unsupported hardware. I have ThinkPads and a Sun rack and OpenBSD is fine on them.
>>53218840
I don't know who you're talking about and it can't be me because I don't use FreeBSD so probably not.

>>53218827
I found CWM hard to use because it was so different from all the other stuff out there.
Also, I was spending too much time keeping a "clean" workspace.

>>53218850
Btw, you can browse the ports tree through your webbrowser here: http://openports.se

I also recommend getting http://openports.se/www/youtube-dl and http://openports.se/x11/mplayer

youtube-dl -q -o- $url | mplayer -cache 8192  -

Then put it in something like "Open With" extension to get video working everywhere.

(Firefox&Chrome can be a bit slow on openbsd - its because of the sandboxing and security features, active development is addressing this right now)

>>53218716
Run openbsd, it has much better hardware support and cleaner base code than freebsd.

>>53218827
Spectrwm is a really nice tiler for small laptops. 14" and bigger is where floating WMs start to be useful.

>>53219112
You can also just feed YouTube URLs directly to mpv, which is also in the ports tree.

>>53219112
PS. If you create an account for openports.se, keep in mind that they don't hash passwords.

>>53219145
mpv has a very large number of dependancies, and it doesn't seem to offer anything over mplayer that an average user would need.

FreeBSD: If I use ezjails and ZFS to make "thin jails", how much memory load can I expect one jail to take up, and how much for each additional instance? Assume just the base installation, amd64.

I ask because im looking for an excuse to not buy more memory.

I learned something interesting yesterday about ZFS: one should never place a swap partition on a zpool because of a single drive fails, the swap space would become faulty.

Instead, one should create a swap file, which would be protected in the event of a drive failure.

>>53216818
why would you list opnsense?

Why would you not list pfsense?

>>53216818
Linux has failed me.

Is BSD efficient enough to run on an athlon xp-m 2000+ with 1gb ram and an igpu?
I just want to browse g and write documents.
A basic DE would be nice.

http://www.pcbsd.org/

This looks nice but isn't 32 bit.

>>53219801
It'll run fine, just install OpenBSD and whatever DE/WM you want

Has this thread been approved by your Goddess and leader Randi Harper?

>>53219336
As much as an extra init process takes, so pretty much none.

>>53219858
Who?

>>53219858
>BSD = FreeBSD
Stop that

What the fuck even is OpenBSD, no one uses this shit and probably for good reason. Unless, according to the information you posted, you're a hacker?

>>53219858
you mean the hamplanet who pretends that she's a freebsd dev?

nah but i think she's the kind of person that lurks here desperately for attention

>>53219917
>never heard of it yet thinks he knows something about it
You're a special kind of retarded, aren't you?

>>53219819
Is it similar to linux?
I know linux is Unix like and and BSD is Unix. Not too sure what that means but I'm pretty well adjusted to Fedora linux.

>>53220048
it'll be familiar at least

>>53219866
Sweet

>>53220063
>>53219819
Thanks anons, definitely going to give it a try.

>>53219915
This, plus the FreeBSD devs and the community would prefer it if she died already

>>53219917
If you're going to bait or shitpost, do a decent job. We already have to deal with the FreeBSD autist, we don't need another one

FreeBSD: So I installed the handbook...... How the hell do I read the handbook that I installed? I can't seem to find the answer in the web handbook.

>>53221724
I don't use it, but probably /usr/share/doc.