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So now that Mozilla has gone down the toilet what browsing are you using, or are you sinking with the ship /g/?
>>53093829
waterfox, will switch to pale moon once OSX version is released
>inb4 homOSeXual
>am i fitting in yet guiz?!??!
I'm using Chromium.
Just got sick and tired of the bloat and bullshit.
>>53093829
im still using firefox
what happened to it?
Anyone else having problems using Google with any browser but Chrome?
Opera and Firefox can't perform searches with Google, so I'm pretty much stuck with Chrome for now.
Anyone else?
Also, it only works for a search or two, and that's after I wipe the cookies and history and cache and whatnot.
>>53093897
>Also, it only works for a search or two, and that's after I wipe the cookies and history and cache and whatnot.
That is, for Firefox.
>>53093897
use startpage
it has the same results as google
web browsers are for cucks
>>53093829
Firefox is still the best browser out there. Which is not saying much.
>>53093829
I've switched to Pale Meme long ago
>>53093847
This is 2016, you can be a homo if you want. OS X is still bad.
>>53093964
Very true.
>>53093980
How are you liking it?
>not using older versions of firefox
Waiting for them to kill addons
or for Chrome to improve addon support
either way, just here for the addons
chromium is the only proper answer to this question, everything else is either just a meme, broken or a full blown botnet
>>53093829
Still using Opera 12.16. A little worried since SeaMonkey's my backup
>>53094000
Well, it's basically just FireFox with less stupid shit, so...
>>53094057
There's a slim possibility Seamonkey could go its own way once XUL is deprecated.
I'm just straight up using chrome. Tampermonkey is also better than greasemonkey.
>>53094150
Care to explain? I tried it once, and it took forever for images and certain elements to load, unlike Firefox and Chrome, etc.
What's wrong with Firefox? It's stable and freedom respecting.
I use vivaldi, it's pretty comfy tbqh baka senpai
>>53094178
How fast is it?
>>53094184
It's a tiny bit behind chrome, ff and opera.
>>53094184
It's forked from chromium, so it's fast
>>53094169
>not even secure enough to be admitted into this years pwn2own
>senior C++ developers are being cucked by the new comers who are more experienced in node.js than anything else
>they make it unpleasant for good people who do not share their same world views to work at mozilla
>they spent $15000 to remove a subjectively "offensive" word from their code because; words hurt you know.
>They don't listen to the requests of super users and keep excluding them from their decisions
This one is important because normies are using Chrome as it stands anyway, super users are still in favour of firefox because of it's flexibility but even that they're taking away to focus on the dwindling normies base
>Takes them over a year to implement multi-process support
>leaks memory
>lags
I really wish the situation was different, but it is not.
Why doesn't chromium have html5 video. I'm forced to use chrome to use websites
So what's the up to date opinion on browsers?
I was using waterfox for ages but some malware snuck by noscript(something I whitelisted probably) so I want to go with something being updated more regularly. Is Pale Meme free of bloat within reason? Or is there another fork that's topped it?
Chrome
>>53094254
Whats the second one in excellent tier?
>>53094328
Comodo I think.
>>53094205
Are you being ignorant intentionally? Do you really not realize the reason for the lack of multi-process support is the old addons which are blocking it? If it weren't for them multi-process probably could have rolled out last year or earlier even because a lot of shit had to be pushed back to keep them work.
If anything Mozilla kept them around for too long.
>>53093829
MOON
>>53093829
Internal politics at Mozilla aren't of any interest to me. I'm actually looking forward to the future of firefox personally, I like the direction it's headed so I'll probably stay on it for the foreseeable future.
so.. vivaldi is good? or is botnet trash?
>>53094466
It uses no memory, that means it's the most sluggish piece of shit there is.
>>53093829
I tried to switch to Chrome but I can't see at all how people can deal with this awful shit with the tabs
Vivaldi as of today.
>>53093964
Not really
>>53094169
lag on porn
>>53094494
Chrome is not for tab hoarders like you and me.
>>53094254
What's the middle one at the bottom?
Anyway, I still use Lynx a lot, and also Links.
But I finally replaced Firefox with Xombrero. It's based on Webkit.
Posted in the Stupid Question thread, but I'm using FF Dev Ed, and each time I close now I get Crash Reporter Popping up, even though the Option is disabled.
I cant figure this shit out.
>>53094494
I really don't understand how people find this acceptable. It really is a UX design failure
>>53094055
Other than licensing shit I don't care about, why would I choose chromium over chrome?
Security is my main concern
in the process of migrating to pale moon with ~30 add-ons and userscripts from firefox
So far I'm liking it. Very responsive and sites load much faster. Only very minor problems
annotations on jewtube is MSE and that is not coming to pale moon any time soon right?
>>53093829
It's perfect
>>53094254
>Chromium
>top tier
Whoever made this is a fucking idiot.
>>53095414
I have annotations in youtube on PM
>>53095602
I haven't used Chromium much.
What's wrong with it?
>>53095661
It doesn't play html5 videos with a certain codec I forget
>>53095611
flash video or HTML5?
>>53093829
I can't even post here without an image because it says that the file (that i didn't attach) is to large...
>>53093829
Chromium. Sick and tired of Mozilla's dumb decisions, so I jumped ship. I'm glad I did desu. After getting used to it, I'm really happy with Chromium. It feels a lot faster in general.
>>53095986
Wrong. That's never been a problem on Linux and is no longer a problem on Windows. It actually has better HTML5 video support than Furrycux. Certainly Jewtube is designed to work better with it, as you'd expect.
The Windows builds with codecs are available here:
http://chromium.woolyss.com/
You can also choose to not have any Google sync stuff included.
>>53094335
>>53094254
So what about Comodo, what does it have that I should choose it?
>>53093829
I am using Brave atm
>>53094254
What are the GOD TIER between Chroumium and Firefox?
>>53096155
Nothing. It's an outdated, closed source version of Chromium with Comodo advertising and a few settings tweaks. Most of the features it removes don't even exist in Chromium in the first place, only Chrome.
>>53093847
Mah nigga.
>>53096160
literal, actual, literal cuck. Not even the meme cuck that /g/ talks about
>>53096013
html5
I'm pretty happy with Vivaldi
>>53096332
opera cucks have a new home
>>53093847
>OSX
homOSeXual
>>53096189
Firefox nightly and firefox aurora
>>53095505
It's a good grandma browser but sadly it lacks powerful extensions and is not suitable for anything else than checking your webmail or whatever.
>>53094055
chromium is also a meme.
everything is a meme according to /g/.
Right now I'm trying out Brave for iOS. Still feels a bit rough around the edges but pretty much the only browser with https everywhere + adblocking for iPhone 5. On desktop I use Chrome/Vivaldi, on my creaky old laptop I use Firefox.
>>53093964
More like the competition was worse than firefox and mozilla didn't want to be left behind so they went down the shitter tobstay competitive. Worse is better after all
>>53093897
I use firefox on linux, search google fine.. wtf are you talking about nigger
I prefer Chrome, cuz it's a nice color
Brave, total Chromium modification, with heavy use of Electron, compiled it on my own with ads totally disabled and NOT one single replacement ads inserted by Brave. For testing, bug reporting and hoping for customization features down the road which already has been promised by Brave makers. - Open Source browser.
Vivaldi, until Brave gets ready and has tons of features. Will get deleted afterwards because it is closed Source
Otter Browser, for testing, with a bit of a change that i pick this Open Source browser instead of Brave. Even less Chromium styled with having soon a total Chrome modification called QTWebengine, which will be totally different to Botnet Google variant. So far not ready for daily usage, but i watch it carefully.
>>53094254
That's still accurate
replace aurora with dev version obviously
>>53096718
>brave
>iPhone
literally lol
>>53094494
chrome is so fucking bad
if you close your browser and reopen it, it loads EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR TABS instead of loading them only if you go to them
god damn..
also filldisk still works on f ucking chrome, IE, opera, etc.. only firefox stops it (and always has) you can fill and crash your hard drive with fucking html5 local storage.. why are chromium & chrome so bad
>>53094397
So you like it becoming a Chrome clone with losing all unique features? What for an utterly dust dumb person are you?
>>53094254
>Want to try Chromium
>Get to chromium.com
>No exe file anywhere
>Hurr, here are 20 pages of instructions
Are they stupid or just elitists?
>>53097045
compile it yourself, faggot
>>53094055
Google side loads binary blobs at compile time.
>chromium not a botnet
>>53097045
they're linux users where they can download it via package manager
>>53097055
Retarded elitists it is.
Hint: 99.9% of all internet browser users dont know what "compile" means.
>>53097077
Why would an open source project need to appeal to users that can't contribute to the project anyway?
>>53097108
Because marketshare.
>>53096155
Fucking lel http://news.softpedia.com/news/comodo-internet-security-forcibly-install-new-browser-disables-all-web-security-499826.shtml
>>53093829
I'd love to switch away from Firefox, but other browsers just don't have the functionality.
>scrolling on Chrome feels extremely sluggish and choppy
>no vertical tabs on any other browser except Vivaldi
>Vivaldi is not usable yet, and is not customizable
Firefox is going to shit, but it's still the only viable browser for me.
>>53093829
Safari and Chrome.
Safari because it's the smoothest, has a good tab expose function and follows the design of the rest of the OS.
Chrome because it comes bundled with flash and seem to work the best with Google's own websites.
>>53097119
What use is market share to them? For paid software, you want to get as many users as possible to monetize. For a free open source project, the only valuable ressource is developers, so they appeal to developers.
>>53093921
I use it half the time on pale moon, it can't search news, the default porn filter is a cruel mistress and the image search is confusing
>>53097157
It gets more people interested into it. It gets more people interested into producing addons for it because many more people use it.
Otherwise what's the point? If it's your hobby fine... and now stop showing it off to 1000s of people.
Firefox because it really doesn't bother me.
>>53093921
But it doesn't personalise my results
>>53094205
>they spent $15000 to remove a subjectively "offensive" word from their code because; words hurt you know.
False
>>53097203
>It gets more people interested into producing addons for it because many more people use it.
Why would they be more interest in making add-ons for it if more people use it? They don't get anything in return either way.
All your arguments for why you want a high number of users rely on there being monetary return for the developers.
And when there isn't, non-developers, like yourself, are of literally zero value to the project.
>>53097119
Why would an open source project care for market share?
linux never did, but they dominate where it counts.. and they can give a less of a fuck if 1 person uses it
Sinking with the ship.
Can't even post without images on the latest dev version.
I won't give up to the bloatnet that is Chrome/ium, if I really have to switch I'd use Otter or [spoiler]W3M[/spoiler]
>>53094254
is aurora/dev edition still considered god tier?
>>53097248
Believe it or not - lots of peole do things without expecting money.
>>53096986
>>>53094494
>chrome is so fucking bad
>if you close your browser and reopen it, it loads EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR TABS instead of loading them only if you go to them
This is false
I have chrome loaded right now and tested it
>>53097359
It's true.. it loads all tabs that are open...
I've used chrome for years and it's always done that
>>53097354
Exactly. Like open source projects. I'm not sure what your point is.
>>53097350
yes, very good.
>>53097412
My point is that you, as a dev of the project (i assume) are already marketing it on a platform (/g/) which sees 10.000 visitors each day. Then you come and say "no, we're not marketing it!"
So what's it gonna be?
>>53094494
I know you millenars don't know this bit you can open a new window and alternate between them.
>>53097064
This is just a flat-out lie though. There was a binary blob downloaded ONCE in Chromium's entire history, which was quickly noticed by the wonderful autists who use Debian and quickly removed.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/26/googles_not_listening_binary_blob_banished_from_chromium_build/
>>53097245
kek'd
>>53097434
>thinking this is a viable alternative
>>53097429
>as a dev of the project (i assume)
You assume wrong. I use Firefox. I'm just tired of seeing shitty entitled endusers, with no valuable skills that could help the project, make demands for what a free open source project should offer them, not understanding that they are of no value to the project as a user.
>>53093847
I use Waterfox, and rarely Chrome. Have one laptop with Windows 7 and the other with 10, both browsers work fine on both laptops, no reason to change.
>TFW I'm fine with the botnet
>>53097464
>I'm just tired of seeing shitty entitled endusers, with no valuable skills that could help the project, make demands for what a free open source project should offer them
The whole point of open source software projects is to provide an alternative to whoever wants to get away from proprietary software and botnets. That includes people with no programming skills.
Congratulations, you're a retarded elitist keeping FOS from ever leaving the crab bucket.
>>53097448
The fact that it happened at all is disconcerting. How do I know it won't dl it quietly once being installed on my system? Fuck botnetium!
>>53096943
Idiot probably has search hijacker malware installed.
Hopefully,, he'll also get crypto-ransomware in the near future.
>>53097574
Because there are autistic Debian users running Wireshark 24/7 who will notice it within seven seconds of the download happening, and it'll be all over the internet an hour later.
Enjoy your Chromium knock-off.
>>53097574
http://venturebeat.com/2015/06/09/mozilla-responds-to-firefox-user-backlash-over-pocket-integration/
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>>53097641
Never claimed that I run FurFag.
>>53097517
>FOS from ever leaving the crab bucket.
Again, what would that help? Everyone who could ever contribute to FOSS, is serviced perfectly by FOSS
Opera 12.18 for logged accounts.
Firefox for shitposting and surfing.
I need an open source, minimal and cross-platform webkit browser that focuses on security. Spoon feed me, please.
>>53097796
develop one
>>53097812
You're evil!
>>53094254
>Comodo
>excellent tier
Pick one.
>>53096949
You do know that Brave is a scam, right? Or are you just baiting?
>>53097832
I'll make the logo
Chromium, because why use knockoffs. I found a guy whop compiles it with codec support, shit's cash. I'll switch to Brave once it gets bookmark management in the summer.
>>53097941
See >>53097901
I bet you own iDevices as well? You seem like a willing cuck
>>53097954
You can't just say something is a scam and expect anything to happen. And no I don't own iDevices.
>excluded from this year's pwn2own
>2014: least secure browser http://www.extremetech.com/computing/178587-firefox-is-still-the-least-secure-web-browser-falls-to-four-zero-day-exploits-at-pwn2own
>2015: Mariusz Mlynski used a cross-origin vulnerability followed by privilege escalation within the browser, to crack it in just over half-a-second. From there, he used a logical flaw to escalate to a Windows system administrator security level. http://www.zdnet.com/article/pwn2own-2015-the-year-every-browser-went-down/
Why use the browser? Of course it can't protect your freedom if it cannot even protect you from it's own, unpatched vulnerabilities
>>53097600
hey man..
my router runs wireshark ok..
>>53097901
Brave is no scam. Firefox is scam, as it tries as hard to be a chrome ui clone. Brave makes something unique instead of Chromium.
>>53097901
it is Open Source, you can back out the replaced ads, you can browse without replaced ads activated, it uses Electron for being able to create something in the future which can not be done with both Firefox or Chrome.
This is no scam at all. Brave is adware. But with the option to deactivate the adware part.
So shut up Firecuck lover.
Icecat
went from a die-hard firefag to chromium about a month ago, no regrets. *(except for the fucking download bar at the bottom opening every time I save an image man that still grinds my gears)
>>53094005
Which version should I be using?
>>53098908
Is there no add-on for that? I use both browsers regularly and i hate that thing
>>53098908
>>53099076
Just use the Internet download manager. You can pirate it easily too.
http://portix.bitbucket.org/dwb/
>>53093847
Typical osx gay user, thinks everyone wants to fit in as much as they do
>>53093829
Pale Moon of course.
>>53093847
Waterfox is literally a 1:1 port of Firefox with 64bit binaries.
>>53099052
>>53094005
>not using esr version
>>53099350
>Waterfox
What's the point now when we have official 64-bit Firefox releases?
>>53099575
There is none, it's shit. Waterfox was always shit and a placebo.
>>53097796
How minimal are we talking.
Midori if you are a pleb. Suckless surf if you are a l33t hax0r.
The only browser that manages to be moderately secure with webkit is chromium though. Turns out sandboxing can actually work if you bang your head against it for long enough.
>>53096990
External APIs for dealing with addons make perfect sense from a technical standpoint. Less worry for Mozilla about addons breaking with every update. Also clears the way for servo.
Permissions for addons make perfect since, not all addons are password managers so not all addons should be allowed to manage passwords. Also allows AMO reviewers to single out high risk addons for more stringent reviewing while less risky addons can be passed easier. Addon signing is just a way to enforce the above conditions.
People have been claiming gecko is "bloated" for years now and now Mozilla is trying to remove parts that are basically worthless(XUL and XPCOM) which will go a long way toward making gecko slimmer and reducing code "bloat."
I don't see the problem with any of these. In the last few years the only changes I have not agreed with were pocket and the removal of certain features in australis. Hello is pretty much a non-issue.
>>53097796
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xombrero
>>53100374
Agreed.
Just to add that both Pocket and Hello are implemented as lazy code, so the bloat argument is moot from a performance perspective.
>>53093897
>>53093911
>>53093921
>not using duckduckgo
>>53100435
I don't care much about the "bloat" issue on pocket, my main concern was that Mozilla was advertising a social media thing with a ToS that basically sells your soul. The code itself might have been FOSS but the service was very hostile.
Actually let me go back and correct myself. I didn't like the facebook addon they were messing with years ago either.
Did they really get rid of the builtin botnet? https://iridiumbrowser.de/
>>53100504
>thinking duckduckgo won't share your information
>>53093829
I am sinking, no other browser that is open and I am not going to sell my soul, and firefox isn't that bad right now.
>>53098867
Oh okay, so Brave is based on Chromium? Why would I use it instead of Opera or Vivaldi, assuming I wanted to use a shitty Blink engine? Oh that's right, I won't.
Firefox > Chrome > Brave.
Btfd, so shut the fuck up botnet lover.
>>53100504
>Not using ixquick
>>53100374
Without XUL no highly advanced add-ons will be possible, without XUL no advanced UI customization will be possible, also Userchrome.css will be killed.
This is nothing good at all. What Mozilla does is limiting Firefox to be almost as simple as Chrome. This is the most negative change ever done by Mozilla since Australis.
You have been thinking Australis was bad? Think again! This move will take away EVERYTHING what is still special and pushes Mozilla over the rest of the competition. Without that Firefox is nothing, just a re-brand of Chromium UI with a different engine and a different name.
>>53100374
In fact the only thing after XUL and Themes removals which will make people still pick Firefox over Chrome will be "It's Open Source"!
Oh wait, Chromium is also Open Source, and the difference between them once Servo hits are zero, so why using an imitation browser then and not switching over to the real thing?
>>53101346
Clever guy, Mozilla takes away all ricing feature soon, all what is left will be
>Mah Open Source!!!
And Brave, Otter or Vivaldi will have all the features Firefox has deleted at that point then...
Here is my answer!
>Enjoy your second rated Chrome imitation browser without unique features!
>>53101346
Can't wait to see you guys sitting in front of a browser where you can change shit, while i can change here with Otter, Vivaldi or Brave either a lot or almost everything.
Nice shiny Mozilla world you are entering soon, isn't it? :D
I feel so sorry for you NOT! You CUNT!
>>53102393
>>53102443
Nobody inside MozCorp has thought that far ahead. The plan is literally 'make Firefox as much like Chrome as possible and users will come back'.
They're a staggeringly stupid bunch of fuckheads.
>>53102393
With XUL Mozilla can barely change the internal components of firefox. I consider firefox being up to date more important than the ability to change the appearance of the browser.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1046166
The bug report was actually just a proposal and nothing has even been decided yet but there are already two suggestions for replacements for those that need this functionality and there's a proposal to add this functionality to webextensions.
>>53102675
You can always change things if you as developer want. Mozilla does NOT want, that is the problem. They WANT one thing. To be like Chrome and hoping that they absorb Chromes userbase with such a move. This is laughable, who really believes such a garbage vision, is just as i wrote... a CUNT!
>>53093847
>once OSX version is released
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=11250
>all web browsers are awful
When will our new savior come?
>>53102673
Yeah, that is what they think.
But... since Australis... where are the Chrome users? Where? I can see almost none! But i can see a big user loss!
Sucks to be Cuckzilla!
>>53102725 Also, one more thing for you to enjoy... Yahoo, their main sponsor is going to be sold, soon money says bye bye!
>tfw opera died with 13/15/what ever the version that came after 12
>>53093829
still using ff
>>53102812
Why would Chrome users even switch to Firefox?
>>53103074
The daydream is more mighty than the reality. That is what Mozilla is thinking.
I switched to chrome. Being able to play youtube videos with out the video constantly buffering/error messages is nice.
>>53097055
>>53097045
>the checkout will consume ~15GB of disk space.
>recommended is 4-8 fast cores and 16-32 GB of RAM
I guess I'll stick to plebfox.
The shitest firefox is still better than all botnet and its relatives.
>>53098888
>Icecat
this. stallman-approved and quads confirmed
>>53102558
Firefox will likely always have better addons than Chrom*. At least Firefox has some level of support too, unlike Google's nonexistent customer support.
>>53102666
>projecting
>>53093847
Hadnt noticed the unofficial native OSX version but even before it was never massively difficult to get running on OSX using wineskin, does look & run like shit though I guess.
