http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ggWK6h
I'm going to use it to work with Premier Pro, Lightroom and Photoshop and I'm beginning to learn web development.
I'll also be playing games on it, my budget would ideally be keeping the setup under £800. I won't be buying Windows and instead using Dax installer. I also have another 144hz monitor that I wish to buy but haven't chosen yet.
Be brutally honest, is this the worst build you've ever seen?
>>52987192
>Seagate Barracuda 3TB
It's fine if you don't mind a 40% failure rate within the year.
>970 3.5+.5GB vram
It's fine if you don't mind the massive slowdown starting at 3.51 GB.
>purchasing your OS
I don't really understand it but if that's what you want to do with your money it's really no business of mine.
>>52987379
>It's fine if you don't mind a 40% failure rate within the year.
I didn't know this, I'll have to move to WD instead then.
>It's fine if you don't mind the massive slowdown starting at 3.51 GB.
I don't understand this post, could you explain?
>I don't really understand it but if that's what you want to do with your money it's really no business of mine.
I'm not purchasing it, if you read my post, I said I would be using Dax Installer, it's a layout.
>Shitgate
No
>Wifi on a desktop
>It's not even 802.11ac
No
>Optical drive
>The current year
No
>>52987472
Ok, I won't get Seagate. The WiFi is in case I move it around.
>>52987457
NVIDIA was retarded and advertised their cards with 4gb gddr5 vram. It only has 3.5 go gddr5 and .5 something else that's slow. Looking at what you're using the pc for though, you're gonna want the CUDA cores NVIDIA provides or else I'd recommend an r9 390
>>52987733
I can't tell if I'm being /g/ memed
Get this. It'll look pretty and be usable for 8 years.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xCTjf7
>>52987781
You're not, their 4GB was a lie.
seagate stepped up their game on new drives, now above wd at least. I still only use hgst personally.
>>52987781
you're not. they cut out a ROP, which means the last eighth of ram is addressed much slower than the rest. it doesn't matter except in the edge cases where you need that last 500mb, which don't come up too often, but are still there.
>>52987825
I find it easier to describe the 4.0 = 3.5 meme in that they made a 3.5Gb DDR5 card, and gave it a 0.5Gb DDR5 cache.
They're cunts for how they marketed it though.
>>52987192
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ggWK6h
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BKwC3C
Downgraded to 960 due to failure rate and added Hyperduo card. Plug your drive and SSD in to the hyperduo card and configure storage tiering.
>>52987192
>>52987855 here
I concur on the Seagate issue. I have a couple of them in my server but only because I run them in raid1 (so I don't care if one fails).
Why are you all sucking Nvidias cock, get a 390.
>>52987854
it sucks sure, but it's still fast for the money.
>>52987893
yeah it's a good card for 1080p still
390 is a better choice though as >>52987885
has said
>>52987855
Seagate aren't bad, I've got 21 of them running in various servers/desktops/external hard drives and have only had 2 fail on me, one was 5 years old and the other failed immediately so i got a replacement under warranty.
Alright, OP here, I made the changes based on what you all said. Thanks a lot for the help so far. Here's the build based on what you all have said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/W4cyvK
Question:
I have a 60hz monitor already, pretty shitty one and I'm going to buy a new one, do I need 144hz? Or will it be okay to simply max out at 60fps
>>52987192
It's decent. I'd definitely go with asus for wifi, though.
The 970 has a bottleneck at 3.51 gigs of vram, because it has one 512 MB chunk that's fucked up.
>>52987911
There's a known issue with the 3TB ones (and certain other models). He selected the 3TB Seagate.
>>52987941
What will you be using it for?
Also, I think your Mobo is a little expensive.
>>52987192
Get a 390 and a 4TB drive. Seagate's 3TB stuff has a history of failing a ton. Also, for fucking $1400, get a good mechanical keyboard.
If your primary use is workstation work then you should get workstation hardware.
Gaming hardware is worse at that stuff then workstation hardware is at gaming.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YnxVhM
>>52987974
Premier Pro, Lightroom and gaming. I'll be using the computer very often as I've started to learn web development too.
>>52988008
Have you ever seen 144hz?
If you have and it amazed you, then get it. If you haven't, you should before buying a 144hz monitor.
I agree with your barracuda etc, because i've had luck with mine. Also, here's the 'updated' parlist.
I don't know if you really want the 6600k or not, but going with the 4690k saves money.
>>52988028
I'm fuckin retarded.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JzQLhM
>>52988028
>>52988028
Thanks for the advice, I was going for the 6600k because it is only 10 dollars more expensive than the 4690k but what do you think about what this anon said: >>52988005
Benchmarks online show the Xeon to outperform the 6600k but I'm really not sure on that expensive graphics card.
I've never seen 144hz, perhaps I should just buy my build now then decide on the second monitor.
>>52988063
Not worth going for a Xeon unless you're getting an 8+ core one.
>>52988073
Yeah. Xeon's have worse performance per core, so getting a 4 core one is actually worse for more money.
>>52988063
If you want the 6600k, it's no big deal, but you're also paying for the motherboard and ram.
>>52988005
I totally disagree. He/she doesn't need to buy stuff that's twice as expensive if they're just working with photoshop and lightroom. If they were professionally animating a movie? Fuck yeah. But not here.
>>52988073
Should I just get a cheap motherboard, cheap ram and spend the most on the cpu and gpu?
And should I just use the stock fan? I assume that's retarded and I should at least get something like a Cryorig or Cool master.
>>52988102
>cheap motherboard
No
>cheap ram
Yes
>stock fan
No
>>52988102
I don't know, it's up to you.
But i'll say this: The motherboard doesn't affect performance at all. It just adds features. If you need usb type c or will need it in the forseeable future, probably go with the 6600k etc.
>>52988102
If you aren't overclocking it really doesn't matter. Don't go too cheap on the motherboard, companies like ECS are cheap but you get what you pay for. I can't count the number of ECS boards I've had die on me.
>>52988102
And get a hyper 212 evo.
If you go cheap on the Mobo, go with asus, gigabyte, msi or evga. Nobody else.
>>52988102
you can get pretty cheap on a mobo and still be good, just don't get some off brand. a low end asus product is still an asus product, just without features you aren't likely to need.
>>52988121
>>52988122
>>52988125
>>52988165
>>52988186
Alright guys, here's a completely different setup, jesus this stuff is hard, so many options and worries about future upgrades
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mx76TW
>>52988212
Drop the seagate and it should be fine.
>>52988212
This
>>52988220
I actually had a Microcenter employee convince me not to buy one of the 3TB seagates because they had so many returns.
>>52988220
>>52988245
Can't tell if I'm making a huge mistake by not getting the 6600k, don't mean to sound like a fag but the main issue with all these parts is the fucking motherboard, I simply don't know which one to get, at the same time I've never had a pc that's this strong so I'm probably going to find myself being annoyed I spent so much but at the same time I don't want to have to switch parts in the future
Should I rest on it for a month?
>>52988280
Well, I originally recommended the 4690k, but you should go ahead and get the 6600k. More future proofing. I was thinking you were trying to keep the price down, and that's a common way to do so.
A good way to decide is to filter on pcpartpicker for the features you need, sort by lowest price and then look up the specs on newegg.
>>52988280
Personally I'd go 6600K. Power consumption is a concern for me though.
>>52988309
>>52988322
is the gtx 960's 4gb really 4gb or is it a lie like the gtx 970?
>>52987192
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/W4cyvK
>getting a seagate
Also why are you getting such a large HDD when you're probably going to be upgrading your SSD by the time you fill it up?
>>52988354
It's 4gb.
Check your local CL, though. I got a GTX980 for $300.
>>52988354
It's really 4GB.
>>52988102
Get the Cryorig H7
>>52988309
do you see the 4690k going obselete soon? how long do you think the 6600k will last?
maybe i should rest on all of this for a week
>>52988462
Last, as in be the best, or mainstream? Because it should work pretty well for a few years.
>>52988482
as in be somewhat at the top and be able to keep up with new games
also, maybe im confusing myself, a lot of comparison videos show games on ultra and i mean, if i were to turn down a few settings i don't doubt the 4690k would perform fantastically
ahhhhh, unsure!
>>52988502
The graphics card dictates how well games play, OP. Not the processor.
>>52988513
alright then! I'll just save money on all the parts and get a 980 ti or something!
>>52988502
>>52988513
I mean, if you buy a piece of shit processor, it will limit how well games play. but any 4 core intel will do the job with the 4690k and the 6700k only having a small impact, anywhere from 2-9 fps.
>>52988527
Let me build you a thing really fast.
Also, please consider >>52988540
Don't leave, i'll be back with a pretty decent build
>>52988527
What features do you want on the motherboard?
>>52988546
thanks a lot man!
>>52988557
Any time. I quite enjoy building computers, even if just in theory, and I live in a small town, so I've only built like 35.
>>52988556
to be honest man, I really don't know thats why im so confused
usb 3.0, dvi, hdmi ethernet, audio headphones jacks ps2 port
i really dont know man, im a complete noob to all of this
>>52988577
Usb 3.0 is a faster usb standard, it increases max throughput for things like flash drives, external hard drives, etc.
DVI is a display connector, and probably won't be used on new devices. It's pretty versatile, though.
HDMI is the most common tv display connector.
Ethernet is wired internet, it looks like a phone jack. and a ps2 port is for old mice and keyboards, and some expensive gaming stuff.
I can't sleep, so I'm free to answer questions.
>>52988595
What about all the things on the top of the motherboard? What do they all do and what are the best versions for what is on there?
In fact, you don't even have to answer that, I could look it up, feel like a jackass desu
>>52988630
On top of? as in, where?
>>52988565
lurker reporting in, trying to get this under 600 without sacraficing too much power. Any tips?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vf3szy
>>52988641
$600 usd?
Also, the G3258 performs nearly identically to the 4790k when gaming, and if you're not a heavy user of cpu intensive tasks, i'd go for it.
Additionally, don't buy a 950. It's 960 or up, because the 950 is a silly budget card that barely performs. Other than that, it's pretty good.
>>52988641
Here, this is better in my opinion, but i'm not 100% sure what you'll be using it for. If you'll be playing planetside or something, get the 4 core chip. Plus, you can upgrade later.
>>52988729
Fuck! I always do that.
Also, in my experience, evga PSUs are more reliable. Plus, this one is cheaper, and you don't need platinum efficiency.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Nh49f7
>>52988713
>Also, the G3258 performs nearly identically to the 4790k when gaming, and if you're not a heavy user of cpu intensive tasks, i'd go for it.
Really? That's CPU is dirt cheap compared to the i5. I am only going to be using the PC for gaming and Netflix on dual monitors.
>>52988737
$550 isn't bad at all, should I concider getting more Ram or putting more money into the GPU? Wouldn't it bottleneck?
>>52987825
>>52987854
>>52987893
This chart is fucking retarded and the people who conducted those tests are morons why the fuck is it still used here?
>>52988784
Depending on the game you play. In bioshock infinite, the g series and the i7 perform within a few fps of each other when they're both overclocked. You could also get an old xeon off of ebay for like $60, and they have 8 cores.
You'd have to use ddr2, though.
>>52987982
From what I can tell the 2tb is the problematic one, not 3tb
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Desktop-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST5000DM002/product-reviews/B013JPL0KG/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_1?showViewpoints=1&filterByStar=one_star&pageNumber=1
>>52988838
Eh I'll probably be playing League and CS:GO mostly. I'm sure it'll run well, I just don't want it to slow down while multi-tasking.
>>52988796
Bottlenecking occurs when one part is much 'stronger' than the others.
This most often occurs between the cpu, gpu and hdd.
If you have a 980TI and a G3258, you won't be getting the full potential of the 980ti.
RAM doesn't often bottleneck anything. Plus, I have 16GB of ram and even when editing in after effects I only use about 8 gigs, and that's if I do it intentionally. You should be fine. If you want to buy a 390, that would be a decent investment.
Again, though, only get that CPU if you won't be playing games that are cpu intensive. It's a dual core, and at 3.2ghz, it's no i5.
>>52988870
Well, just to be safe, the i3-4370 is a dual core hyperthreaded cpu, and a bit newer, so it should offer some added benefits. I don't know how the g series compares when overclocked, though.
League and CS:GO aren't very cpu intensive.
>>52988965
already on it
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xr2zBm.
I am going to OC regardless but I'll be less worried about this one.
>>52988976
Add an aftermarker cooler, such as the hyper 212 evo. Also, these i3s aren't overclockable, at least not a lot. The k on the end of the new series means the multiplier is unlocked.
>>52988557
I didn't forget about you. I hope you enjoy.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/m2gC3C
>>52988990
Alright man, thanks. I'll might just end up going with the pentium my budget is flexible but I don't want to exceed it too much.
>>52989021
Ah, and I chose w10 because it's cheaper. It's also free if you pirate it, but that's up to you.
>>52989021
thanks so much
>>52989024
Alright. Hey, if you ever see me on /g/ and have any questions or anything, hit me up. I keep my name the same, so you should know.
>>52989037
Like I said, I can't sleep and have nothing productive to do, so it's no problem. I hope I helped.
>>52988976
>2x 4GB on a board with only 2 DIMM slots
>Future games like Quantum Break are already confirmed to require 16GB
Either get 16GB directly or get a board with 4 slots so you can possibly upgrade to 16GB later.
Also stay away from the Pentium as a 2 thread CPU can't start games these days anymore.
I'm thinking about this for my next build. I'll be running dual 4K monitors and using it for video editing,web design, etc. suggestions? Any way to cut cost/increase value?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/79jqD3
>>52989606
Just saw this. I'll take a look.
>>52989606
what's with all the random SSDs?
>>52989606
First impressions
The mobo is a bit expensive, unless you really prefer a few additional ports, 16gb isn't entirely necessary, random ssds are random, love the GPU, the case is too expensive.
More ssds in raid 0 = higher performance, higher price
single ssd = less performance, lower price
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KjcNRB
Put those ssds in raid 0 and you'll cap your onboard raid card (exaggeration, still though)
Overall better price/performance in my opinion. You could also just get 1 512 gb SSD and call it a day. You don't need storage that fast for video editing, but it would help.
>>52989606
Also, why 3000 mhz ram?
>>52987192
Get a 390
Get a WD hard drive
don't get 16gb of ram
if you need windows, get it off g2a or kinguin
>>52990056
*cough* tpb *cough*
>>52990056
Also, 980ti to a 390? Are you retarded? If he wants the performance of the 980ti, the 390 is a huge downgrade.
>>52987808
Nice meme
>>52989828
The gpu can def help accelerate certain tasks in your adobe workload, and nvidias cuda cores are generally better suited for that kind of workload.
On the other hand, the affect the GPU has on your adobe work is minimal compared to the impact the gpu has for vidya. That would urge me to urge you to consider an r9 390 instead as many have mentioned.
Im using an old HD 7870 and without its cuda cores i can still use it to speed up various operations im cs5 and rendering ect
>>52990212
>>52989606 said video editing, I assumed sony vegas.
Plus, it's pretty cool to be able to game if you want.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/C6cC3C
Have been thinking seriously that I should change 980 to 980ti. Also what I've been reading the new polaris and pascal cards are coming somewhat soon, could this lower the prices for something like 980 or 980ti in near future?
750W might also be a little too much but there might be a chance for me to upgrade to 4 hdd drives in raid 10. Also monitor and windows are basically placeholders.
>>52990404
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/C6cC3C
2x4 gigs is a weird setup for ram
Personally, i think the mobo is too expensive, but it's personal prefrence, as it doesn't effect performance.
I'd go with a less budget ssd - http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam for example.
The 980 should be good for 1080p 60hz, I have the 980 for 2560x1080 75hz and it works well, and that's with massive cpu bottlenecking from my PoS amd cpu.
>>52990404
Also, the higher the wattage, the longer the psu lasts at the same draw, at least in theory.
Theoretically, a 1200 watt psu that constantly draws 400 watts would last longer than a 410 watt psu that constantly draws 400 watts.
Plus, futureproofing, etc.
>>52990541
2x4 gigs for dual channel. If I need 16 gigs in future I still have slots.
Are you going for better performance or reliability on that ssd? Both are of course definitely a plus and it's not that much expencive so I'll look into it.
>>52990562
I see, that's certainly nice to know.
>>52990616
I'm going for both. If you want the highest end, though, you'd go for intel 730, at least in my experience.
And the dual channel is understandable.
>>52990973
I see, thanks for input. I'll continue planning my build for a while.
>>52991094
Any time.
Lurkers welcome, posters more welcome.
>>52987781
https://youtu.be/jPlCIUh_Tp0
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>>52991681
Ugh. Did you ever have the 970? I did. I also never experienced the 3.5 gb stutter, in witcher 3, gta v, crysis 3, etc. Fuck off.
>>52991957
>tripfag
fuck off to neofag
>>52991964
What the fuck are you even saying?
Incomprehensible gibberish.
>>52991681
>>52991964
Could you even try to be a convincing shitposter? At least learn what a trip is before posting to 4chan. Just do yourself a favor and go away.
>>52990025
Thank you for your input, it really helped. When it comes to the SSDs I was going to put two of them in raid 0, have one for apps and OS, and one as a scratch disk for editing. Can I still do everything with only one ssd and external backup?
>>52992420
Well, that setup sounds ideal. If you're looking to reduce price, one ssd and an external hdd will work, but not as well.
Plus, if the external gets knocked over or disconnected in any way... yeah.
Not Op, but anyone have any idea howmuch the gtx 980ti will drop in price when the pascal comes out??
>>52992487
Hopefully a lot. I got my gtx 980 for $300 because he upgraded to a titan x. Hopefully I can get that titan x for $500 or so.
Poorfag here,
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3PHG7P
Thoughts on build?
I already have two 1080p monitos,
But I dont have windows.
My schools offers a free copy of windows 10 "Education", which is the same type as Windows 10 Enterprise, which is ALSO the same as Windows 10 Pro. Dont know if I can downloaded a new pc because i think its just an upgrade on your current windows
>inb4 pirate it
>>52992698
Pirate it. Takes 3 minutes.
>>52992698
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3PHG7P
Also, look at the reviews http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A1ZTZOG/?tag=pcpapi-20
I'd say go for another ssd
>>52992698
aaand you might get better performance on amd's side
>>52992769
>that damage control by the Kingstom employee
Any cheap 120 gig sdds you recommend?
ill sacrifice that 50 dollar keyboard if it means I have to pay more for an ssd
>SSDNao!
>3.5GB
>RAZR™ Official™ Gaming Gear™ for your PC RIG!™
ayyyyyy
>>52992882
Samsung 850 EVO 120GB.
It was my first ssd, I got it when it first came out, and it was in my desktop for a long time. It's now in my laptop, and still going strong.
>>52992915
Fuck off, you cunt. At least he asked. You, on the other hand, would probably just buy some piece of shit from best buy.
