Why do you hate me so much /g/? Without Ubuntu, Linux would still be in the dark ages.
>>52383529
I don't hate you, I use you everday at work and at home.
>>52383529
>Without Ubuntu, Linux would still be in the dark ages.
Not really.
>>52383529
I quite like Ubuntu. I wish Unity had more flexibility but overall it is pretty good. I don't like how the dash is so fucking picky over shortcuts though. Pisses me off when I see random shit in their because I locked something to the dock. Also I wish Nautilus had more features. To be honest all the standard file managers on Linux are shit though.
I also quite like Ubuntu GNOME but GNOME Shell still feels quite a way off from being something I could use every day.
>>52383566
The #1 distribution is based on Ubuntu. In fact, most are.
Amazon spyware desu senpai.
Also I have ot use Unity at work everyday and it just feels so limited.
>>52383590
Without Ubuntu, those would just be debian based instead.
>>52383529
Because I'm a worthless memer that wants to spend two weeks building a memedistro from the kernel up for a 0,5% speed increase just to do absolutely nothing with it afterwards. 617 6UD Y0U N008
>>52383590
Debian based Linux Mint is superior however
>>52383572
>file managers
Apart from Dolphin/KDE, I hate that the file managers can never display thumbnails in a non retarded manner. I maximize a file manager and increase the icon size. I could easily fit about 5 horizontally but for some reason they add a shitload of padding between them so I only get 2.
>>52383661
If you want outdated packages.
>>52383684
You realize that Ubuntu packages are based from Debian Unstable right?
>>52383670
Pcmanfm thumbnails work fine for me.
>>52383670
Yup. Also Files (nautilus) on Ubuntu is retarded in so many ways. It can't remember specific per folder settings. If you have a list view you can't multi-select with the mouse. It ignores _ characters at the start of a filename when sorting so if you have _important it will appear with the rest of the files starting with i. Can't have check boxes for tiles to make selecting multiple files easier. It can't pause or queue transfers. It doesn't inteligently handle multiple transfer to/from a drive by using a queue. Hell even Explorer does most of that shit in Windows.
>on Debian
>get "shiny new stuff syndrome"
>install Ubuntu minimal, add xfce and lightdm
>lightdm segfaults
>known bug
>nope.avi
>install Debian testing
I am home
>>52383755
>If you have a list view you can't multi-select with the mouse.
This cannot be real
>Try it
CANTWAKEUP.png
>>52383780
I know! Fucking crazy isn't it?!
I hate ubuntu, many programs are even older than the debian ones, like anything gnome related. had many problems trying to display thumbnails for my porn, it didn't even work at all because of old as fuck buggy evince. fuck them with a cactus.
>>52383807
That is worse than the LightDM bugs
>LightDM has specific patches to fuck with you in Ubuntu
>Destroys HiDPI support for LightDM, even though it works without the specific patches (See Xubuntu)
>These patches leak over sometimes (See Mint)
>>52383725
Mah nigga
Why is LXDE so based?
>>52383590
And Mint has done a better job at being Ubuntu than Ubuntu itself.
>>52383755
Based Nemo
>>52383870
But they do this. >>52383714
>>52383870
If only Mint shipped with a different DE than the two stupid defaults.
>>52383870
Insecure though. Doesn't enable security updates to the kernel by default.
>>52383870
>wallpapers folder
>list view
>>52383891
http://www.linuxmint.com/searchengines.php
>>52383895
I've tried other DEs and imho Cinnamon doesn't get the recognition it deserves, it's very well thought out.
>>52383910
I usually install the latest kernel manually, so long as it doesn't break the Nvidia proprietary drivers.
I just tried 4.4 but it doesn't work with nvidia-361
>>52383961
Look at the post I was replying to
>>52383976
Why use their own pre-selected list of search engines though? Maybe I want to go to a site and add it from there.
On the subject of file managers I don't think ctrl shift select works the same way as it does in Windows (selecting multiple whilst not deselecting any others currently selected) for some Linux file managers.
>>52384057
crtl+shift+select selects all files between the previously highlighted file and the new point you click.
>>52383529
Thanks to Ubuntu now I can see some nice ads in my desktop and most importantly I can share my pr0n local searches with canonical and amazon.
>>52383976
Cinnamon is literally just a stiff Mate however.
>>52383590
>The #1 distribution is based on Ubuntu. In fact, most are.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions
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>>52383710
This. LTS is based on Debian Testing, though. Testing contains packages that have gone through some testing already, but not as extensive to be merged into Stable.
>>52383529
Because without Unity Linux would be succeeding
>>52384032
You should probably be using Pale Moon anyway
>>52384233
Nah, I have the exact same opinion of MATE, it's just Cinnamon without any of the polish.
The taskbar, system tray, right-click menus etc. all works like it should in a modern DE, MATE makes me feel like I'm back in 2005 again.
Xfce or gnome 3 or GTFO
>>52383529
>Ubuntu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI
>>52384446
It's GNOME.
https://www.gnome.org/
>>52383647
or just install debian without amazon, "ubuntu has experienced an error" every 20 seconds, and with the panels on any edge of the display you like.
>>52383529
ubuntu didn't resurrect gnu plus linux, but it did reserrect gnome.
Thanks, Obamtu.
>>52384754
A pain to get my "non-free" drivers when they happen to be for the wi-fi.
>>52384754
Or install any Buntu without Unity and you get a hassle-free Debian: justwerks edition
>>52383755
>>52383870
Why do you lie on the internet my friend?
>>52383755
Why can't we have a DE that's as polished as GTK based DEs (like cinnamon), but has the file manager capabilties as good as QT based DEs such as Plasma?
The lack of multi selection hovering with a mouse in list view annoys me so much in GTK file managers. Why is it so hard for gnome devs to fix these problems.
>>52384917
yes you can ctrl+click but that isnt what i meant. just using the mouse using click+drag to select a bunch of files.
>>52383529
Ubuntu is a great distro and people new to Linux should use either Ubunut or Mint.
And for experienced Linux users the distro doesn't really matter as long as you have the programs you need and terminal window to work with.
>>52384949
I'm running KDE (v4).
Dolphin a shit (let's not even mention konqueror)
>>52383529
/g/ hates whatever normal people use. That's why they use Linux in the first place.
Ubuntu became the normiest distro, therefore /g/ says it sucks.
>>52384949
LXQt maybe? Haven't tried it yet
Linux is STILL in the dark ages because of Ubuntu.
They should have spent more time making programs and emulation of said programs more efficient so that they can attract the Windows crowd, but Ubuntu's desperation to be an "alternative" has pushed Linux's progress back immensely.
>unity
lmao
>>52383605
>desu senpai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwiAiT2u5xE
>>52385434
>they can attract the Windows crowd
What's the point?
Windows users use it because it just werks while Linux users use it because it does stuff that Windows doesn't.
>>52383529
Because I am L337
>>52384814
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.2.0-live+nonfree/amd64/bt-hybrid/
>>52384915
basically all operating systems that aren't in some beta state just werk
>>52385813
>arch
>>52385907
it does work, it's just that the people maintaining it are dumb sometimes
>>52385922
Yes, it works after you spend 10 hours making it work.
Then it stops working after you update it.
That's NOT the definition of just werks.
Most OS' that aren't in beta work OTB, but not all of them.
>>52383529
I like Ubuntu. It's just that I like Mint even more.
>>52383608
Without Ubuntu, many of them wouldn't have bothered.
>>52385943
>implying you've ever actually used Arch
You do some very basic configuration which is all explained in the wiki and takes like half an hour. Then you can install whatever you want through the package manager. Most basic programs like Xorg work out of the box with the default config.
If you've ever used a CLI before Arch is just as easy to set up like Ubuntu or Debian.
>>52383529
because its popular
but linux is already getting too popular in general, which is why you're seeing bsd coming up more often on /g/
>>52386028
>I turns on and does literally nothing, so it works!
>>52385943
yeah, it works just the way it was intended to work
no it doesn't do a lot of things that other OSs do automatically, but it also wasn't meant to do that out of the box
working or not is just a matter of doing what it's supposed to, not having any OS do anything you want even if it's not meant to do it or at least not without supplementary software
Just like Windows doesn't compile C code out of the box, because it wasn't meant to do that out of the box
if it was meant to, but didn't, then it would not "just work"
Install gentoo
install elementaryOS
>>52383533
I also use ubuntu for both work and home. Haters gonna hate.
>>52384958
Click, press shift, click item lower and that selects everything between.
>>52383529
Unity tries too hard to be OSX. And I hate OSX. If I wanted to use OSX I'd buy a mac or hackintosh.
Otherwise, I love Ubuntu.
Unity and Ubuntu are the best.
The spyware is just a meme and easy to disable. Canonical even stated that next versions won't come with it. And looks is something subjective.
Everything just werks.
>>52383529
I actually enjoyed Ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10
I haven't touched it since Unity
>>52387983
Nice try Amazon.
>>52387843
yes i know. my point was it is missing a basic selection feature with the mouse that has been around since at least Windows 95. I can't remember how Program Manager worked on Windows 3.1 or Mac back then.
>>52383529
Why doesn't anyone talk about the fact that they are headed by Canonical? Corporate control over FOSS is seldom profitable and they are bound to switch up the business model greedily in the future.
As for the distro itself, Unity isn't the best but by far I prefer it over GNOME. APT is not great but certainly not mediocre, and Ubuntu has a lot of repos because so many people use it. It uses systemd now which is another mediocre aspect about Ubuntu. Overall, Ubuntu is mediocre but just werks.
>>52387760
trying that now
its the easiest OS to get a dev environment going
vala is not too bad
midori is complete shit
>>52390448
fuck noise is shit
files is shit
so many bugs
>>52385434
>Linux is STILL in the dark ages because of Ubuntu.
Ubuntu attracted a bigger crowd. If not for it, Linux distros would still look like piss to any regular person.
>>52391471
>mfw Unity
i use ubuntu on all my servers (the way linux is supposed to be used)
and OSX on my desktop.
>>52383529
I use Ubuntu at work, I was surprised about how popular it is in an enterprise environment.
>>52383529
Getting real sick and tired of Ubuntu taking credit for Debian. Ubuntu is just Debian testing with extra compile flags and a few extra features, that's it.
>>52391623
Unity is easy to use, and it looks good enough for the average user. I'm speaking from experience. Also, the effect Ubuntu had on users started happening way before Unity was a thing.
And it's the only one other than Gnome3 that looks like it is its own thing, because everything else looks like they tried to make them look like windows, so they feel off. And Gnome3, fancy as it might look, takes too much visual space.
