>official retail packaging
Link: http://imgur.com/gallery/Pasna
So it comes with a controller and shit?
Neat.
Also, you grossly underestimate the costs, or lack thereof, when it comes to these kinds of packages. Sure, it costs _something_ but for mass production it's nothing to talk about.
>>52304683
>strapping the botnet to your face.
kill you're self's
>>52304721
>Le Botnet meme
Two separate panels confirmed
>>52304706
So the end reason it's more expensive is because it comes with a bunch of extraneous bullshit? Great.
>>52304737
>Le facebook jew zuckerbitch
>>52304778
That extra bullshit adds just a bit more to the cost the oculus itself (which makes most of the price), but it gives the developers a standardized platform that allows them to make higher quality products, knowing that everyone will have at least that hardware.
Back ordered until June.
>>52304760
Known for a while, also that DK2 isn't exploded.
>>52304832
I'm retarded.
What does that mean?
>>52304820
This is /g/, standardizing is bad!
>>52304857
I ordered 40 minutes after the launch and got 30 for my order number. I was there from the very start but wasn't able to get my order in thanks to the high load.
If you order now you won't get it until August. Despite the complaints the demand is very high.
>>52304857
Someone tried to say that order numbers were random.
Someone compared order numbers to the ship month that Oculus gave and found a strong correlation.
>>52304887
Oh, so that chart shows the correlation percentage between the order numbers and the months they will be shpped?
>>52304884
I ordered within the first 5 minutes and am getting the first shipment batch :D
>>52304900
I believe it was the survey results. So for 27 XXXXX, 66% reported March, 33% reported April, 1% reported June (troll).
>>52304901
Nice you'll probably be able to sell it for $1.2k and get a free one.
>>52304921
Ah, thank you Anon.
>>52304901
>that feel when they're shipping the first 7,000 to kickstarter backers first
>>52304901
Feels good :D
>>52304839
Shit yeah fair enough. The tangle of parts is a lot less worrisome if its just for inter ocular focusing.
I still hope its "open" to at least some degree
>>52305023
sup doug
>>52304921
I love it when data Just Works like this
>>52304820
Are we going to start playing with a controller, just because we are using the rift? Do we need a standardized fucking stand, or whatever this shit is? It's extra trash.
>>52305023
You fucked up.
They can cancel your order now. The images are archived too.
>>52305071
>Are we going to start playing with a controller, just because we are using the rift?
Not necessarly, but it would help the developers make controller-based games without fearing that users won't have the hardware to play them.
Also, a controller is clearly better than mouse+keyboard when you can't see whare your hands are.
>>52305071
>Do we need a standardized fucking stand, or whatever this shit is? It's extra trash.
That's not a stand. It's a camera, and it's necessary to use the Rift.
>>52304931
Disgusting.
Absolutely disgusting.
>>52305071
>Or whatever this shit is
Having an emotional opinion against something you don't even know enough about is just flat out despicable.
>>52304683
Most people will use a keyboard/joystick what the fuck is that controller doing there racking up the price
>>52305355
In an alternate universe
>What the fuck it doesn't even come with a controller and it costs $570? Fucking lol what a piece of kike shit!
>>52305355
They get those Xbone controllers for free as part of a deal with MS. It's there to help offset the impact of the price by providing you with a better deal, Rift would have been $600 with or without.
>>52305023
>posting your email
>posting your order number
Retard.
>>52304683
That's $300 of the $599 price tag right there.
>>52305023
You're going to be in April.
Get fucked mate.
>>52305023
>openly posting your email
I've contacted Facebook, the police and the CIA, enjoy having your Oculus cancelled and (probable) jailtime.
>>52305023
Some guy posted that picture already yesterday on /v/ and deleted after he realised what he has done.
Poor guy.
>surrendering your senses to the electric Zuckerberg
ISHYGDDT
>not using superior ps4 controller
>>52305105
>Also, a controller is clearly better than mouse+keyboard when you can't see where your hands are.
Holy shit you're right I absolutely loathe controlling first person view RPG with 2 analog sticks it gives me that feeling like I can't walk/run fast when I'm dreaming. I've always stayed away from a controller because I hate it with a passion now what the fuck am I going to do I really wanted one of these that's actually a dealbreaker for me
>>52305506
Vive got a camera to show your keyboard and mouse in VR
>>52305080
Why would they do that
>>52305023
I wonder if anyone canceled this guy's order on him.
>>52305023
aye suh doug
>>52304924
As tempting as it is, that would mean I have to wait another 2-3 months on top of the ship date I already have.
>>52306289
tfw won't ship until may/june
wonder how much vive's launch will be backordered
>>52304832
>tfw you are 35
I wanted preorder one as a gift for my wife's boyfriend for his birthday in april
Not gonna make it until june though
who cares, vive will be superior in every way.
>>52305797
welcome to 4chan m8
>>52306500
Why? looks like cheap plastic shit to be honest family
>>52306517
better controller included, better hardware, front facing camera, better support from devs, less money spent on marketing. it will probably be even more expensive, though. you always pay premium for premium products.
>>52306517
Lighthouse
>>52306471
lmao you cuck
>>52306528
Why is the hardware better? Oculus seems to be the most advanced.
>>52305836
This is a new meme huh?
>>52306550
do your own research.
>>52306554
nah
>>52306551
Yep, not even from /b/
Does the Vive already have a price? I can't wait for it, the Rift is shit.
>>52306517
Because it uses a better tracking technology
Instead of utilizing image analysis which is innacurate as fuck and requires massive computing files, all you do is measure delay from multiple sources and triangulate (is this the correct term?) the location, which is basic fucking math a basic cpu will be perfectly happy to do.
Hell I have no use for a VR, I will never buy one in the next decade. I don't even play videogames. But vive's approach to the movement tracking is just superior
>>52306585
That does sound a lot better. If this is possible, how come Oculus chose a camera instead?
>>52306550
vive can theoretically be used as a 3d scanner. so you can scan your entire body and room and use that in video games or for 3d printing.
>>52306550
See >>52306533 and >>52306585
From the impressions we've seen at CES, the Rift was better in terms of quality but the Vive provided a much more enjoyable experience. Why? Because the vive is built with room-scale tracking in mind; it can do everything the Rift can do and more with ease. All of the Rift launch titles are seated experiences for a reason; Oculus thinks room-scale VR is a gimmick and are pleading developers create games that don't utilize their convoluted tracking system in such a manner.
>>52306626
The Rift has had a camera since DK2.
Whats the point of this? Its essential a 3d version of those video glasses that have been around for a decade and cost $100?
>>52306639
immersion and potentially new video game genres.
>>52306639
The differences between virtual reality and stereoscopic video are palpable.
>>52306626
I honestly have no idea.
My guess is that they didn't think about it much and were influenced by movement tracking on consoles present at the time, the hype went on so they decided it will not be economical to scrap the project and start from zero
waiting for vive 2, when they introduce eye tracking. someone posted a video a few days ago that showed off vr eyetracking. basically only the part your eyes are focus on will be rendered in the full resolution. the parts in your peripheral view is not rendered at the full resolution, saving resources and allowing for prettier graphics. never buy first gen new tech.
>>52306634
Well walking around does seem like a gimmick to me. My room isn't big enough and I imagine it to become boring really fast.
There was a vive demonstration thing at gamescom last year, but I couldn't check it out because it was so full that it needed reservation in order to get in.
I did check out an oculus combined with a bicycle though, that was pretty cool and it doesn't move around. Could drive around on the bicycle with sensors and the forces you'd experience got translated on the bike you sat on, making it feel like you're going uphill or downhill and stuff.
>>52306633
>vive can theoretically be used as a 3d scanner
No.
>>52306585
>requires massive computing files
No, it's like TrackIR, not Kinect/PS Move.
>>52306634
http://uploadvr.com/room-scale-possible-testing-the-standing-tracking-volume-on-the-oculus-rift/
>>52304683
>xbone controller
SONYGGERS
BTFO
T
F
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>>52306697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGYsRXnazM4
vive uses the same technology for tracking. as i said, theoretically it can be used as a 3d scanner. now fuck off and do some research before you post.
>>52306736
>A handheld laser scanner is the same thing as Vive's lighthouse
>both use lasers
hurr
>ocucks rift
>first gen new tech
>not waiting for vive 2
i thought this was the technology board, no /v/ or facebook.
the rive came out of nowhere and valve is backing them only because facebook bought out oculus. the rift is the real deal.
frankly i dont know shit about vr and i'm only speaking from a pure uneducated consumer point of view but i trust that the rift will have more support and will provide a more robust vr experience than the rive. rift from how i look at it is the intel/nvidia/apple of the vr world.
>>52306824
That feel when Facebook bought Oculus for more money than what HTC is currently worth.
>>52304683
Would you rather it be in a blister pack?
>>52306836
and all that money is being spent on marketing it seems. vive has the better hardware and actual dev support from people other than the farmville team
>>52306850
in the end, marketing wins.
look at applel. There are people on this board right now who think applel makes "quality" products
>>52305465
>>52305432
>>52305080
>>52305957
>>52306008
The picture was posted on /v/ yesterday
>>52306850
>vive has the better hardware
>actual dev support
such as
>>52304884
Not to worry ill pick one up from a thrift shop after people realize nothing will run on this
>>52306867
yes, it does have better hardware. can't you read?
valve is backing the vive with steam vr and steam rules the pc market. steam vr will get the most support from any company other than EA.
But which will have better porn support?
I'm leaning towards the HTC.
>>52306889
>literally the same hardware
>no developers except indieshit
Okay.
>>52305023
>Doug
>>52306910
>superior laser tracking
>front camera
>"literally the same hardware"
i see, you already bought a rift. enjoy your inferior product.
I tried DK2 (friend owns one) and Vive (whichever version they demoed in August)
Vive feels a lot better.
also,
>>52306867
The Vive can actually scan your room in 3D and incorporate the environment into the game so you don't bump into a wall while walking around. Oculus Rift games are all stationary and to be played with an Xbox one controller. The Vive comes with controllers that were specifically designed for VR.
![oculus-rift-plus-webcam[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vFtfTe0.jpg "oculus-rift-plus-webcam[1].jpg")
>>52306915
>laser tracking meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXrJu-zOzm4
>front camera
wow it's fucking nothing
>>52306933
>bumps into a wall 2 seconds into the video
see, this would not happen with the vive. refer to >>52306930
what a joke of a headset
>>52304683
Here is what i think it will happen.
Rift will flop due to price and no games for it.
Even if they manage to cut the price $50 not including the xox controller thats still a lot of money.
Valve will release it bundled with Half Life 3 or Portal 3 remember that the point of selling this thing is to have fun with it and Im pretty sure they will go with HL3 because that the only way how they can release the game and not to be disappointment.
They will charge reasonable amount of money I would say around $400 with HL3 included with I think it will be a fair deal for many people.
>>52306930
No, it shows the predefined boundaries and overlays the camera when you get near them. That's not room scanning.
>all these rift shills
>>52306867
>magnetometer
>360 degree tracking
can the vive do 360 too? wont the laser data be unusably blocked by my head?
>>52306964
Old picture, both can do room scale. Difference is that the Rift is a final product and HTC keeps adding stuff to the Vive.
>>52306944
Yeah, HTC is just now catching up to what Oculus was doing 6 months ago.
>>52306981
wait. where will the vive shoot the lasers from? from the headgear or from a stand?
>>52307000
i'm sorry, i didn't see the built in front camera of the rif- oh wait...
![steamvr-htc-vive-developer-edition-unboxing-15[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/M74RHo1.jpg "steamvr-htc-vive-developer-edition-unboxing-15[1].jpg")
>>52307020
From the lighthouses
>>52307032
oooooooooh there are more of them? i get it now, cool, thx
>>52307024
Gimmick, not even the same focal distance as your eyes. What a "groundbreaking" feature.
>>52307024
>>52304683
wait, why do they include xbox controller? for what purpose? you have to pay for it extra right? for now reason right?
>>52307056
that is not the product they're selling right now.
>>52307060
Microsoft subsidized it.
>>52307060
>for what purpose?
to get money from microsoft.
>you have to pay for it extra right?
yes. the controller is like $80
>>52305105
Who the fck looks at his/her hands while playing with a mouse and a keyboard?
>>52307073
Yeah, that's because they found that this camera is a gimmick.
buyer's remorse: the thread
just wait for the vive, idiots.
>>52307101
>not pre-ordering the oculus and cancelling/scalping if vive turns out to be better/cheaper in february
>>52307085
>is like $80
woah. and the stand is like $40, remote is about $10-20 bag is $7-15. Can't they sell it like monitor companies do?
Are they retarded? It's like they don't want to sell them properly so the bubble wouldn't burst.
>>52307090
People who can't touch-type and they want to play something that needs a lot of keys.
If you're playing only using WASD and a couple other keys, then you can play without looking, but some games need you to write and do other more complex stuff, and for those it would be hard, so in that case, making the interface "gamepad-centric" is the better option.
>>52307119
their "breakthrough" intrigues to be honest
but it is probably marketing bla-bla
>>52307121
The Xbox controller costs us almost nothing to bundle, and people can easily resell it for profit. A lot of people wish we would sell a bundle without “useless extras” like high-end audio, a carrying case, the bundled games, etc, but those just don’t significantly impact the cost. The core technology in the Rift is the main driver - two built-for-VR OLED displays with very high refresh rate and pixel density, a very precise tracking system, mechanical adjustment systems that must be lightweight, durable, and precise, and cutting-edge optics that are more complex to manufacture than many high end DSLR lenses. It is expensive, but for the $599 you spend, you get a lot more than spending $599 on pretty much any other consumer electronics devices - phones that cost $599 cost a fraction of that to make, same with mid-range TVs that cost $599.
>>52307133
>People who can't touch-type and they want to play something that needs a lot of keys.
Trust me, nobody who plays games with that kind of number of keys need to look at keyboard.
>>52307137
If this is it, it's a huge disappointment and would suggest dishonesty on HTC's part, since the molds for the dev kits have had space for the front-facing camera for a year now and this upcoming feature has been discussed at length; this is clearly not a last-minute breakthrough that would delay shipping.
I would sit back and wait for further word from HTC/Vive before assuming this is the big feature for the CV that they've been talking up, because that would be a huge anticlimax.
>>52304820
Everyone playing on PC already has a "standardized controller". It's called a fucking keyboard and mouse, you dipfuck.
>>52307145
I'm not a huge gamer, so I'll trust you on that one lol.
I thought that maybe there are non-heavy games with a lot of commands. I for example used to play a lot of GTA SA:MP, which involves a lot of writing, and I can't touch-type at all.
>>52306539
it's a dank meme you idiot
>>52307142
>cutting-edge optics that are more complex to manufacture than many high end DSLR lenses
I wonder how it affects people with not standard eyes, and there is plenty of those specially in enthusiast niche
>>52307162
Read the thread. I explained that point, you dipfuck.
>>52307145
I have to look at my keyboard often, especially if I need keys on the right side of the keyboard like m or i which are common in many games.
>>52307205
That's because you are a shitter.
>>52306950
>HL3
STOP, just fucking stop jeez.
Its not coming out, ever
You are just going to end up dissapointed.
It will be 800+ bundled with two mediocre games like hoverjunkers and job simulator. Even then that would be pushing it.
>console controller
I can't play Mount&Blade with that bull turd.
>>52307205
seriously? are you new to pc games? is this /g/?
are you baiting?
m and i are the most commonly used buttons in games people can pinpoint them like their noses with closed eyes
>>52305506
Do you need to look at your keys to play videogames?
>>52306950
>HL3
Opinion discarded
>>52307221
I have never finished HL1 or HL2 therefore I dont care it it comes out or not,I dont find it epic as most of the people.
I just state my prediction the things to come.
Also the shit like -big company wont milk its golden chicken dry- is stupid to begin with.
>>52306912
>doug
>faster
is doug slow?
>people complaining about not being able to see your keyboard
m8 if you don't know a keyboard by heart by now you need to try harder.
>>52307537
A VR is wasted on these kinds of idiots anyway.
The most natural use for VR is Mech games and space sim.
Two genres that have reached a gameplay standard on the PC 2 decades ago already, that consoles still can't shit out even an average quality games in these genres so long as the shitty console controllers exist.
Fucking console controllers can't even handle TIE Fighters 20 years on.
>>52304901
>>52305023
>:D
cuck
>>52306867
>Tracking area: TBA
Biggest load of bullshit I've ever seen. Tracking area is ZERO. NOTHING. OCULUS CANNOT TRACK ANYTHING LMAO
>>52307625
Games won't make use of tracking then.
>>52306694
Soon all those fat slobs won't have an excuse for being obese.
Two words:
Lucky's Tale
>>52305836
is this a reference to the hand in the DESIGNATED comic, or just a hot new meme I haven't encountered yet
>>52307741
Hot new meme born in this thread
>>52300971
>>52307750
thanks friend :^)
>buying the first device of its kind to come to the market
Top keksimus
>>52307537
I'd just like to see my desk so I can locate my mug
>>52304683
This is literally useless until software is released for it.
Don't buy it when there's nothing out for it, don't let it become kinect 2.0
>>52307580
keyboard and mouse isn't any better for mech and space sims
>>52307863
Keyboard is. Mouse isn't. Keyboard + Joystick is the proper standard, you dumb chucklefuck.
Thought there is stuff like Freespace.
>>52306528
>better support from devs
there are way more devs working with the rift than the vive.
>>52307902
Maybe if you have a shitty joystick and need more buttons, but for the HOTAS master race a keyboard is superfluous.
>>52307935
>HOTAS
I can't control my wing squads with that properly without the keyboard.
>>52307958
I use shift buttons to control the communications in FS2 for example, macros work too.
>>52307137
the "breakthrough" is the front facing camera, the HTC marketing guy literally told you that was the breakthrough
>>52305836
>tripfag faggotry
pls die
>>52306694
I can't think of anything worse than combining a VR headset with exercise, imagine all the sweat in the foam pads
>people still think this will be useful for anything but flight sims or similar games
>>52306697
Being capable of standing experiences doesn't mean it'll do well at them; Oculus' position on Rift CV1 even before the Vive was announced, was that they were focusing on seated experiences and nothing more. The Rift won't be capable of proper standing experiences until the Touch comes out and gives consumers a second camera to fiddle with; the cameras themselves aren't really designed for room scale either nor are they wireless so the long haul, I think HTC has Oculus beat.
>>52308497
horror games and rail shooters
>>52304820
>That extra bullshit adds just a bit more to the cost
it almost doubles the price.
>>52305377
more like
>oh it doesn't come with a controller, carrying case, remote, two pack in games, and $200 headphones that nobody asked for and is only $350? great!
Am I correct in thinking that because the rift only has a single camera, it suffers from occlusion issues?
>>52308631
If you use the touch controller, it requires 2 cameras.
1 camera won't matter if it's just tracking the HMD.
>>52304760
did the DK really use a phone panel for this display?
that right there honestly explains the price jump desu senpai
lmao
>>52308667
nice DK1
>>52308683
wat
>>52306679
there's a currently a company who does eye tracking tech that will mod your dk2 for around 20k. i wouldn't get my hopes up for eye tracking being standard in consumer versions any time soon.
>>52308661
So you will have to buy another camera, as well as the touch controllers?
>>52305432
>Implying you could ever do shit with that
Ayy lmao
>>52308757
the touch controller comes with another camera
Is there any reason to get this over any other models? Or waiting 2-3 years for a price drop? I just want to plug and play with all my things.
>>52309136
just wait for the chinese to release a clone that doesn't include the $200 headphones.
>>52306694
i feel the same way
but at the same time some company just fucking released some crazy gun gear
>unload your AR/AK
>strap on fancy hand grip with buttons and a button behind the trigger
>strap a control pod thing with more buttons to one side of your rail
>strap the tracker to the other rail
>your legitimate fucking AR or AK rifle just became your controller
that + vive + arma = OPERATORS OPERATING
but again, theres like a total of 2 or 3 games i would use that setup for
imho i see VR arcade cabinets making a comeback rather than more consumer/in house funs
>spend $1400 on computan
>spend $700 on vive
>spend $400 for the fancy gun tracker
and why the fuck not
>$300 on that vibration vest or whatever
all just to have fun in 3 games
inho shooters will not be properly enjoyable without a gun shaped controller and room to walk around
flight sims would probably be hella dope as long as you have enough physical buttons to trigger shit
>setup all this in warehouse
>runn around operating
>run to a-10
>drop gun sit down in chair
>BRRRRRRRRT
i forget what the gun thing is called sorry saw it on the meme book
>>52309242
i guess it's technically for airsoft guns so you can use a gas gun for muh recoil
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/railguncontroller/rail-gun
Bu
>>52309136
Wait 2-3 years to see if the high cost of this crap effectively kills it.
>>52305023
Never fails to crack me up when new gags do this shit.
>>52305023
>mine comes in March! :3
Not anymore, anon. Not anymore.
>Post your face when people with glasses doubled the price of the Oculus and you don't wear them
I love being reminded why it sucks to be an early adopter. Only the really early adopters (kickstarter) are really getting anything out of it.
