>Not even a HDD failure in the last 3 years
Are you sure about that m8?
This is why I study in IT, thank you for confirming my good career choice op!
>>52212725
Learn Chef or Puppet senpai. Try to get involved in the development process. If you don't have developers maybe go work somewhere else. If you do have developers starting working with them. Learn their build process, help them automate things. Learn about devops, read the Phoenix project.
>>52212725
fuck i wish i knew your employer so i could devise a migration plan to AWS and probably cut costs by a substantial amount and in the process, get you laid off
>>52212815
>AWS
>cutting costs
top fucking kek
If you think that's shit, I think you're just reading the wrong books.
Study a language or something.
How about looking up the stuff medicine students are required to read and do for exams?
>>52212725
Just a hypothetical question. How easy would it be to fake a hdd failure and take either the old one or the replacement home with you? Are there protocols for old drives?
>>52212815
Someone still has to baby sit the servers. Just because they're hosted somewhere else doesn't make ops job irrelevant, unless op is already irrelevant, but clearly they see some value in having him.
>>52212725
Read some really good books then. Never a waste of time.
Don Quixote is a classic and if every day is as you describe then I'm sure you'll finish it in a month.
>>52212815
Kek someone still needs to monitor cloudwatch. Having an Aws environment doesn't alleviate the need to monitor an environment. Its not anymore autonomous than running bare metal on premise stuff
>>52212834
Lol yeah aws is not a cost saving measure unless you're leasing data center space.
Take some initiative and try to find ways to cut the companies costs down. They'll like you more and want to pay you more money.
For God's sake do some simulations of different things failing in the system to test that data wont be lost. No matter the situation, if there's data loss it will be considered your fault.
>>52212865
which there are plenty of companies that still use physical servers e.g. rackspace/linode. moving to the cloud drastically cuts costs if coming from that.
>>52212792
That's the thing - I was a developer for one year but it was the same amount of boring but in a different sense - I was just making small scripts/automations for accounting software and that was no fun. So I asked for a "transfer" and now I'm also doing nothing.
>>52212815
Cloud services cause way more problems than having an in-house crew taking care of local machines.
Ask anyone except for providers of those services.
>>52212841
I literally started reading chemistry books for fun and am considering going back to school.
>>52212846
I believe we should nuke them if possible but like I said it hasn't happened yet and I probably wouldn't try that on drives that remain unmountable/unrecognisable.
>>52212852
Yeah I started with the books a year ago and before that I was at first just anticipating issues and then gaming.
>>52212891
I'm afraid to quit because what if something happens after no sysadmin is there, but on the other hand, it's been already 3 years...
>>52212766
Sorry - forgot to reply - yes...
>>52212725
>>ssh ... "tail -f ..."
tail -s0 -f ...
>>52213014
>paying babysitters to watch physical assets that need physical space is cheaper than using VMs and needing only one person to run the whole thing
dont ever post again
>>52213076
>hosting everything at a public cloud provider is cheaper than just colocating your stuff
yeah right
>>52213038
Unfortunately we run BSD and Windows Server
>>52213076
Most work happens on an in-house internal network though.
Also,
>bandwidth problems
>outages
>not having actual full control of the machines
Suing a service provider is fun if you're an amateur but people in the real world prefer to get work done.
just go on irc and complain about everything with all the other irrelevant old men
>>52213014
>I literally started reading chemistry books for fun and am considering going back to school.
I'd say do it, but see if you can take a shortcut somehow.
Like read this and that book, send in an assignment, get graded, etc., in a somewhat sped-up process.
Nothing is going to suck harder than slow progress learning-wise.
Unless you've saved up enough to live comfortably while you study, of course, then it's entirely up to you.
Are you going to move to a different place to study?
>>52213014
Do you have a solid backup system in place so that you can recover from nearly everything?
>>52213179
I was thinking of studying while employed. I'll see how that works out and if needed will drop one of the two options temporarily.
And, yeah, I was looking for "shortcuts" but unfortunately for the orthodontics and surgery-related study programs none of the profs wanted to give me an easier run :/
Not a problem though - I'll figure it out.
>Are you going to move to a different place to study?
No, no, I live in a capital city so the universities here are alright.
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Well I guess the thread's dead so thanks for everyone's contributions.
>>52213246
I do believe so, even though one of them is a daily "copy" job of the MDM database and the production's accounting database.
No deltas - they copy the whole 800GB database every day and retain it for a month.
>>52212783
I don't understand either, the OP is retarded.
Why the fuck are you complaining about an easy workload, or being overpayed?
>>52213275
>they
Meant the company with that but probably "I" or "us" is better but whatever.
>>52213275
At my last job they implemented a tape backup drive. There'd be a tape that had daily changes, which would then have a weekly change backup, monthly and then yearly.
It was about £10k, but with that, you could easily roll back to any point. But fair enough if you've got that sorted.
What would you recommend to get into sysadmin?
>>52213249
Sounds pretty nice.
I'm just a machinist's apprentice, but even if I get tired of being a machinist I don't have the grades to get accepted into medicine at uni.
Not really my thing anyway.
>>52213282
Oh you know... some people have dreams, ideas, ideals and want to challenge themselves.
>>52213302
>£
Damn dude now that is actually expensive.
>What would you recommend to get into sysadmin?
I really wouldn't know. I'm super rusty after all these years. My story is a little silly in that my family was always poor and until I was 18 I didn't have a credit card and my mom would never let me buy anything computer-related so I kinda suffered "under that regime". I only coded on a 150 euro notebook and for example learned a lot about optimising applications that way. Anyway, but once I got my own job and cash I just did stuff incrementally, e.g. bought a domain, then a DNS subscription, then a VPN and so on and I just started building stuff for myself and so on. I believe everyone knows you learn the most through trial and error. If you're really new to this, maybe try getting your own OpenStreetMap server running. There's a lot of cool stuff to learn in that one. Or if that isn't something for you try making a NAS with a BeagleBone or something. Also fun. You'll find something that will be fun for you.
>>52213400
>I don't have the grades to get accepted into medicine at uni.
Neither do I but it's a fun hobby. Also I learned a lot about diets preparing for the uni rejection that way heh.
Also everything and at the same time nothing you can possibly eat in your lifetime gives you cancer apparently.
>>52212725
Fuck how do I get your job what certs you have
>>52213401
I meant the job. What would be important to know?
I have my Raspberry Pi running as a file server and personal VPN (for free wifi connections). I did have it as a Time Machine system, but got sick of the hard drive constantly spinning up and down and it was much too slow. Did run webmin to try and make life easier, but that was too bloated for the Pi
>>52212725
there's always anime
>>52213420
Wait; can you just waltz in there without meeting the average grade requirement?
Or isn't that a thing where you are?
I'm in Denmark, and while you don't have to pay tuition to go to a national university, you still have to meet a certain level of grades from your High School classes in order to get in.
At least I think that's how it works, even if you've been working for years after high school.
>>52212725
>Be a Linux admin
>work at company that supports millions of users
>on-call 6 weeks out of the year
>Guranteed at least to get called 5 times because of Sandeeps application doesn't work and he thinks the server is down when in all reality they can't code worth shit.
>always have servers to build or scripts to write
>get paid an Okay amount, still new so can't expect too much yet.
Go to a larger company anon, they will slave drive you and burn you out then you can go back to the smaller one. They probably would pay you more too.
>>52213518
Protips on getting a sysadmin gig?
>>52212725
>Not even a HDD failure in the last 3 years...
Then you need to improve your monitoring.
Also, another suggestion for learning chef. It's a fantastic help.
>>52213542
Get a help desk tech job while in university fixing desktops and some server work. Then work in data center operations at a larger company. Then apply to jobs that are posted on the company websites, not shit like career builder. Self studying and internships are the best way imo.
But don't let OP kid you, depending on where you go you'll be doing a lot of work. Ya when I was DCO I didn't do shit but run cables and rack servers, but now I do a lot of work. It can be stressful but I like working with technology etc. and new opportunities so its not too bad. The on-call is what sucks the most.
>>52213547
All these posts saying that no HDD failures is a sure sign that OP is doing a shit job.
What proof do you have? He could have been damn lucky that no HDDs have failed? And if his backup system is as good as he says, then where is the issue?
>>52213577
I've already graduated with an Electronics Engineering degree. What should I start working on?
Are qualifications required, or should I get a PC and try and manage it with different systems etc?
>>52213542
Git gud, apply for jobs
Certifications help, connections help more
>>52213614
Depends on who hires you, but Most don't give a shit that you have a degree in EE. They'd rather have someone who has an Polsci degree and experience in the field than someone who doesn't have experience.
Apply to large companies at entry level system administration positions, if you want to do Linux/UNIX apply tot hat if you want to do Winders apply to that. I guess I would say just know Red Hat/ CentOS because majority of companies use that flavor of Linux.
>>52212891
>Take some initiative and try to find ways to cut the companies costs down. They'll like you more and want to pay you more money.
bs
>>52213447
My job specifically or in general? Basically I just asked colleagues for some specifics about our systems when I was still a coder and did my homework.
>>52213470
I can apply. That's pretty much my only goal for now.
>>52213461
Yes. Yes.
>>52212725
>math major
>300k starting salary
We deserve more, but it's ok.
>>52213950
Strong meme points my friend.
Jokes aside nobody deserves anything and nothing matters.
>>52213590
Because drives fail. Op indicated they're watching over a lot of machines & drives. When I was a lone sysadmin, watching over 40+ servers and 70+ desktops, I had an average of a drive failure a month. When I was alarmed at the rate, I looked it up, and found I was well within the range for normal.
Six years, no drive failures, lots of drives? It just doesn't happen.
>>52213174
this desu
ircs are full of people like op
>>52212792
>memeops
>>52213590
You think if a production HDD would die nobody would notice?
>>52214334
Wanna bet?
>>52213282
dat beta mentality
>>52214334
6 years? OP said 3 years.
One a month seems very high. I genuinely think that your enclosures were inadequately cooled. In my current business I've heard of one drive failure.
In my previous business, we had a server that had a few drives fail at the same time (was funny, the guy pushing for a backup system had been serially denied the funds, they sure listened to him after that), but that was as I say, a one off. And those drives had been at least 5 years old.
>>52214920
Hey, I'm OP. I was starting to doubt myself and at the same time wondering whether everyone who posted in this thread does not know how to care for their hardware but you gave me hope again.
>>52215091
Are the desktops switched off overnight? Do you have laptops under your care?
>>52215110
I don't own a machine. I gave the company laptop back and I just ssh from my personal machine everywhere.
And my machine is never turned off.
>>52215363
>I don't own a machine.
Wanted to write "desktop".
>>52215363
No, I meant the PCs you are looking after in your role. Trying to understand why your HDDs are fine compared to everyone else in this thread
>>52215397
To be honest I don't know either. They're all mechanical too as far as I know. Weekend shutdowns only and occasional maintenance shutdowns.
>>52214582
>You think if a production HDD would die nobody would notice?
If they're using hardware RAID and found about for monitoring, yes.
>>52214920
Yeah, my bad on the 3 vs 6 year thing.
There's no doubt heat was an issue in the desktops (Mac Minis, not my choice). I don't have the calculation still, bit or all feel within range.
>>52215840
>found about for
forgot about the
Fucking swype
>>52216115
I just think everyone denouncing 0 HDD failures as pure fantasy is a bit too much. As I say, been in 2 different businesses for 3 years and each had one isolated case (and one of those I'd put down to laptop abuse)
>>52212725
people ask for stuff we cannot afford or isn't possble
make/delete AD accounts
updated security rights for accounts
otherwise i browse /g/
i am a god to them, they'd never fire me.
its getting kinda boring though, might browse other jobs
>>52213025
Liar
