Why does the battery life on linux suck so badly?
Because Bumblebee sucks.
I get 16 hours with my 9cell using Arch.
Because its built by free tards
Install TLP
It does not suck.
Because hardware manufacturers are not motivated to provide decently optimized drivers for their linux platform.
By motivation I of course means money, in the consumer tech world, linux users aren't big enough group to make good optimization worth the investment.
The only hardware company that makes it is Intel, but only because they've found linux users to be profitable enough market.
Best example of it are GPUs, intel's integrated graphics and iris pro chips are the only graphic processors that "just work" right out of the box.
>>52211729
haha, yes it does. I literally get half if not even less battery power using linux compared to windows.
Linux sucks on laptops. I tell everyone this. I use linux only on my desktop.
>>52211762
kill yourself
>>52211712
Not very familiar with this program. It doesn't reduce my performance or anything will it?
>>52211782
Free tards ladies and gentlemen.
>>52211694
buggy platform ACPI bytecode that only works properly in Windows
powersaving options missing from drivers or disabled by default because of stability
the graphical desktop is a permanent work in progress
if you don't manually enable SNA accel or something even basic 2D can be extremely CPU heavy
the two common browsers (Chromium and Firefox) are among the least CPU efficient
Skype for Linux is a CPU hog, constantly waking up the system to poll for something
kernel schedulers, governors, etc. often optimized for server throughput
>>52211762
Are you going to say which distro/DE or are you going to just be a faggot?
>linux
>>52211694
I'm running Arch on a shitty Toshiba laptop with an intel processor.
Battery life is fine, even on my badly treated battery (second hand machine).
It just works. Plus I got a big performance boost. Hell, I'd say if you have a shitty laptop with only 2gb of RAM, put linux on it. Instant win.
>>52211834
Linux Mint 17.3. I've dabbled with many distros over the last few months. Same story with each and every distro.
>>52211834
the latter I believe
According to loonie-boonies, ACPI is still the cutting-edge sheeeit.
>>52211857
>Same story with each and every distro.
nope
Linux is a nightmare
>Wanna install the latest graphics driver for your card?
>Your comp is broken
>Time to start pounding in a bunch of command lines to fix it
>If not that just reinstall the OS entirely
>Want to update to the latest kernel?
>Endless boot loops and black screens
>Have to revert back to your old kernel
>Why is my cpu at 60% idle for no reason?
>Oh that just a feature of linux, nobody is sure why
The list goes on and on. Free tards will just spew the same old memes that they always do to defend it. I seriously tried to invest myself with linux and enjoy it over the years. Every time I just get disappointed. Honestly I don't want to use windows...but there really isn't anything out there that beats it.
Fuck off OSX faggots.
>>52211901
It was for me. So yep.
Anyone who says linux has good battery life is smoking their own memes.
>>52211913
If you are not gaming on Linux, why would you install proprietary GPU drivers? Gaming is still not there, but I hope Vulkan will change that in the near future. If you are trying to update to an unstable kernel version, you're pretty much asking for trouble and unless you are a developer I don't see a point in doing that.
Not just the battery life op. Just about everything on linux is worse
>Driver support
>Performance
>Compatibility
>stability
Even the fucking wireless card support is wonky. I found myself when using linux my wifi signal would bounce all over the place other then my assumption was the driver was a piece of shit. I tried linux for about a month before heading back to windows.
>>52211694
>buy laptop with windows
>battery lasts 6 hours
>put Linux on it
>battery lasts 6 hours
you might just be retarded
>>52211694
Because you're using a fucking chromebook.
>>52211694
Still getting 5-6 hours with my latitude.
>>52212064
Nope, I installed the latest stable kernel. I used the kernel update utility.
>>52212080
Prove it.
drivers are sudoku tier
OP here, I have TLP installed now. If my battery life doesn't improve I guess its back to windows.
>>52211839
>dr,dre
normie leave
Because you're using something heavy like gnome instead of i3
>>52212064
>But I hope Vulkan will change that in the near future
Anon, I hate the be the bearer of bad news...
>>52212091
Distro?
i get the same life between linux and windows on my laptops
>>52212154
Just what I wanted
>>52212171
Whatever works. I just want Linux to be dominant on every platform. Desktop is the only one that's missing right now.
>>52212111
True battery time is just 6h not 6:45
>>52212197
>Desktop is the only one that's missing right now.
And Linux still sucks pretty much on Desktop. There's still a lot to do.
>>52211694
what are you talking about? linux doesn't have a battery. it's an OS.
>>52211913
>graphics
Most distro's ship a tool so you can install drivers from a GUI and the ones they suggest usually work. I haven't tried every card out there but it worked for me.
>if it doesn't work
Then you revert to the snapshot you made before you installed the driver.
>new kernel problems
Either learn how or use the one your distro suggest.
>60% CPU for no reason.
This might be the only thing that could be a real issue for someone.
But you deal with this the same way as you deal with it on windows, you restart the process or find a fix.
It is often something wrong with your configuration, so either stop messing with things you don't understand or accept they brake from time to time.
You can be certain that with such a large set of developers, using 60% CPU for hours will not be tolerated for long.
>>52212185
>Posting the most convoluted screen because hacker screens intimidate you
Alternatively you use the tabbed mode and click between windows
>>52212148
I agree that winshits and macfags are retarded
But I hope you know that isn't Dr Dre
>>52212154
>OSX and windows guis aren't resource intensive
>Linux's most commonly used GUI kills batteries
>Have to install an ugly tiling gui if you want good battery life
>If you don't want it to be ugly you better be a NEET because you will be fucking with config files until the end of time
>>52212271
before somepne calls you a shill i'll just leave this here
http://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html
Here are the only real positives I think linux has
>Most distros have the easiest install I've ever seen with any OS
>No viruses (Not that is really a problem for me on windows)
>Customization
Thats about it really.
>>52212271
Yep, definitely. If KDE made Plasma smoother and bug free, they could attract so much more users to Linux. Combined with Vulkan or whatever makes gaming possible on Linux - and we have a winner.
>>52212337
>No viruses
Linux actually has viruses, they're very limited on what they can do though
>>52212271
Very obvious. Until a distro that comes along that truly has a command line free experience nobody will want to adapt to it.
>>52212337
To be fair the only real reason it doesn't have viruses is because linux only holds 2% of the desktop market. If it actually takes off at some point just wait and watch and you will start to see more viruses being created for it.
>>52211913
You hit the nail on the fucking head with the cpu usage
All I'm using right now is
>Spotify
>Chrome
Fucking terrible.
>>52212493
This is me
Anyone know wtf this kworker 2.0 is? Why the fuck is it eating 60% of my cpu?
>>52212352
It's not just the DE, many components at lower-levels relevant for desktop usage suck.
- X.Org/X11 is fragile, ancient and annoying to deal with.
- ALSA is annoying to deal with if you run into a problem.
- Propriety GPU drivers (at least AMD) are a mess.
- Open source GPU drivers are incomplete and/or perform terribly.
- Driver support for different devices (e.g. trackpad, mobile broadband) are inferior to their Windows equivalent.
...and so on
And also there's >>52212380. Normal users don't want to bother with the CLI at all, as they can't deal with that.
>>52212368
The virus problem on Windows is mainly a problem of users running executable containing malware or adware and them accepting UAC prompts carelessly. Exploit-based viruses are not that common or better said wide-spread nowadays, though they happen from time to time, but that's a problem that Linux could also face.
>>52212380
You can use Ubuntu without even knowing the terminal exists.
Probably configuration.
Remember: power saving equals less performance. It's a trade-off.
Have a read: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management
>>52212533
>kworker
don't you mean "kminer"?
1 out of 20 laptops has shitty Linux drivers and thus poor battery life
>oh Loonux is shiet muh battery life dumb freetards
>>52212533
Literally the first result: https://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu
>>52212533
Another common problem with linux.
http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu
Random ass cpu usage. Install windows never look back.
>>52212605
Never had this problem.
>>52212621
I have along with the hundreds of other forums online that post these problems all the time.
>>52212533
Me again. I'm done with linux. I've tinkered with it like others have...its just not for me. Too many fucking problems. Windows here I come yet again.
>>52212605
>Random ass cpu usage. Install windows never look back.
yeah, on Linux cpu usage is random-ass, compared to being constantly high on winblows
>>52212605
Kworker starts to use a lot of CPU when you have unsupported hardware, use an updated kernel.
>>52211694
>Why does the battery life on linux suck so badly?
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>52212637
This might be a fault of some background shit in some DE. I don't run in background any such shit, so maybe that's why I don't have issues.
>>52212669
I'm on 4.3.3
>>52212653
At least use windows 7
>>52211694
Stop using Gnome 3. Xfce is giving me more battery life than Windows 10.
Should I install both tlp and powertop or is tlp alone enough?
>>52212685
Nah man, I enjoy windows 10. Its quick and speedy
What are you talking about I get 8 hours of battery life using ubuntu
>>52212653
Bye. See you in a few weeks when your anus is tickled by the thought of owning a cute desktop.
>>52212653
18 mins and give or take 5 mins with winusb and I'll over of the nightmare.
>>52212680
then you are out of luck, you have to find the hardware that is misbehaving and modprobe it, there is a lot of info on Google mate, the other option is to go back to Windows and disable supertech, module installer, create a Windows defender whitelist, and so on. if you want a constant low CPU usage.
>>52212721
>>52212739
>Linux Mint
No shit faggot, what you expect from a botched clone of Ubuntu.
>>52212533
kworker starts mining bitcoins in the background when your system is idle
If it does so while you're using it please file a bug report
>>52211839
Why do people who aren't enthusiasts come to an enthusiast's board?
Fucking faggots with nothing better to do. What did you think when you saw RMS at the top of the page?
>>52212533
>>52212739
LOL, in some thread about battery life on linux we already see a defector.
>>52212067
If you are just looking for gaymen you must just be drying to be cool.
If your a developer having an OS that does things like running Python natively you'd begin do understand.
>>52212739
Sounds to me like its time to send linux off to Valhalla!
>>52212291
yes anon, how will you get around in life not being able to recognize dindu rappers by their pictures?
>>52212772
The only DE's known to cause battery life shortage are Gnome 3 and KDE which use 3D acceleration and a shit ton of bloated UI effects.
Any regular DE including Unity give you the same if not more battery life than Windows. I have tested this thoroughly on several laptops.
>>52212148
Kek
>>52212185
what font is that m80?
>>52212739
>hates linux
>but won't pay the jews for windows
Typical winfag hypocrite.
Linux is for
>People who like to spend time on forums 24/7 trying to fix their shitty OS
Windows is for
>People who have day jobs and want to enjoy life
OSX is for
>People who work at gay bars and blow loads in a dark ally.
>>52212858
I'm not a winfag. I actually don't even want to install windows. Its just the only OS that is good.
>>52212870
epic
>>52212887
Then pay for it you scumbag.
>>52211762
You can only blame yourself for that one.
>>52212897
Nah, I already did technically. My comp came with windows 10 originally.
>>52211913
Sometime the user is the problem, not the OS. I went through this stage of denial and agitation due to my own inability to make my system work.
Everything is a learning process, I migrated to Linux after 12 years of using Windows. I didn't do it overnight, I ran an older desktop with Ubuntu parallel to my Windows laptop and kept testing it to see what is possible. How far can I replicate the same functions of Windows, what software can run, any known issues for my hardware.
Surprisingly my first test run with Xubuntu on my main laptop was so successful that I have no booted back into Windows for quite some time.
It was worth it.
>>52212721
over with the nightmare and back to the botnet
>>52211694
Servers most of the time don't run off batteries
>>52212887
>Its just the only OS that is good.
No, it's not.
It's just the OS that almost everyone was bullied into supporting.
>I actually don't even want to install windows.
Then why the fuck are you downloading this iso?
And if you support windows, why are you using illegitimate ways to obtain it?
>>52212931
Because I already paid for it. My laptop came preinstalled with windows 10 pro.
>>52212923
Botnet I can deal with. A shitty buggy OS I can not.
Why does Linux have so little battery life compared to this?
I can watch Netflix for like 17 hours straight on my s2110a running Linux.
Check mate Windows.
>>52212919
>That resolution
>>52212944
Why don't you use the CD then?
Its almost over
>>52213132
Never came with one. Most pcs these days don't even come with install disks anymore. They just have a separate recovery partition which got deleted when I installed linux.
I find with Debian and Ubuntu on two of my laptops that the battery life is comparable if only a little less.
>>52213157
>>52213177
So why the fuck do you post updates on this? Trolling is not allowed on /g/, you know.
>>52213157
Nice, see you on the other side. Happy trails and keep pounding pink.
>>52213232
I just wanna watch the world burn.
There a hundreds of posts for shitty battery life with linux on forums. Its not an isolated incident.
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>>52212706
So is their botnet.
>>52213305
Nice
>>52212964
But why? What's wrong with Windows 7?
>>52213257
By having a public meltdown?
>>52213349
I don't like it.
Well should only just be another minute or so. Its all done copying. Goodbye free tards. I'll see you on the other side....of the "Window"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oday_Fc-Gc
>>52212250
what laptop do you have?
>>52213566
samsung np300v3a with a SSD instead of a HDD, and a HDD instead of the DVD drive and intel 2330M instead of the 2310M
>>52212271
>>52212297
I'm leaving this here too
https://blog.r3bl.me/en/why-windows-is-not-ready-for-desktop/
Windows wouldn't stand a chance if it weren't 'first'.
>>52213694
The person that made the Linux version also made one for Windows (linked on the Linux one)
http://itvision.altervista.org/why-windows-10-sucks.html
>>52211913
>>52212493
I'm sorry, but your computers must be garbage.
>>52212722
>supertech
I get better battery life in it than I do Windows. Better yet, Windows will randomly spin up some bullshit to compress memory or some shit while on battery and that'll dip my 5 hours to 2 hours, only thing that stops it is restarting.
>>52212791
No OS is running Python natively. Python is an interpreted language. Read a book, nigger.
>>52211913
Oh look, it's "I don't know how to use a computer", the post.
>>52212290
>rainmeter tier shit
>hacker screen
are you 12?
>>52212870
nailed it
>>52211762
Top kek i have twice more battery life using linux
>>52211839
get out drakeposter
I switched recently and honestly, yeah some things are a pain in the ass. It doesn't "Just werk" as well as Windows does.
On that note I doubt I'll go back.
>>52211694
Install BBSwitch + Bumblebee if you have iGPU + Nvidia dGPU
>>52212295
>Have to install an ugly tiling gui if you want good battery life
F
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H O R R I B L E
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>>52212493
I'm back. Fully installed with windows 10. Runs like a dream as it always does.
>>52216789
Nice
>>52216789
welcome to the botnet son
>>52216829
Thanks glad to be here. Always nice to have an OS that out of the blue doesn't start using 60% of your cpu. Feels good.
>>52211712
This
>>52211795
No. It just increases battery life.
>>52216789
>at least disable cortanta
>>52217022
I like to talk dirty to her though.
>>52212911
then why are you downloading the iso from tpb?
you could just download it from microsoft themselves you know, and not worry about 3rd party malware being added to the torrent (i know the torrent description says CLEAN, but that's false security)
>>52217074
Torrents brother. Quicker.
>>52211694
Linux is a kernel, it doesn't have battery life.
Cause you forgot to enable laptop mode on your kernel
>>52211913
THAT WAS SO FUCKING HARD OH MY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>52217355
Dios mio, Fernando!
>>52217355
Nice terminal, which wm?
