Official Thread #047 : The "Christmas and New Year" Edition
And a Very PC 'Happy Holidays' to you all,
This thread is to consolidate graphics card discussion and display technologies to reduce unnecessary thread clutter on /g/. Let's also keep the shilling to a minimum.
Direct any and all questions regarding Graphics Cards and Display Adapters here first, including purchase and sale questions:
Use >>>/g/gcg/
For non-related questions, link to find the stupid questions thread:
>>>/g/sqt
Support questions should be directed to >>>/wsr/, as per /g/'s sticky. Or just fucking Google it instead of shitposting.
In the news:
>US Judge rules in favor of Samsung, may result in a brief sales ban in USA:
http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/23/itc-says-nvidia-infringes-samsung-patents/
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/49207/
>SamsungxAMD parneship begins. The future brightens a little for #2 in the dual duopoly:
http://www.maximumpc.com/samsung-may-be-producing-cpus-gpus-for-amd/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-samsung-elec-amd-chips-idUSKBN0U500P20151222
>I was wrong. AMD Delays its DualFiji monster to Q2 2016, inline with the launch of mainstream VR:
http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/89126-amd-gemini-dual-fiji-graphics-card-delayed-q2-2016/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9874/amd-dual-fiji-gemini-video-card-delayed-to-2016
If you find any news, post it below! Try to get at least two sources first!
Budget crown:AMD RTG Radeon R9 380X
Performance crown:Nvidia GeForce GTX 980Ti
/gcg/ crowns take into account regular retail price and single chip only.
Buyer Guides:
www.logicalincrements.com
www.pcpartpicker.com
Logical Increments happily accepts suggestions, comments, and criticisms.
Drivers:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
Post your Display related gift acquisitions below!
Thankyou.
first for cucks
>>52079568
Noice.
>>52079568
all one has to do is say tree fiddy and the thread is in shambles.
>>52079682
this is the third and a half po
>>52079838
st in this thread.
>>52079838
>>52079858
Are...are you a 970 IRL, Anon?
Im currently using one of those korean 1440p IPS at 90hz monitors, and i was thinking about getting a 1080p 144hz with gsync monitor as well.
The problem with the 1440p montior is that i cant really get up to 90 fps with my 780, Would it be a better idea to get the other monitor or wait to get a new GPU to get that 90fps at 1440p.
>>52079903
The 1080p144Hz sounds like a step back besides the GSync
If the Korean monitor doesn't give you any grief right now, and if you're not really playing any games that NEED 144Hz, like CS:GO, then I'd say stick with the 1440pIPS@90.
IPS are much nicer to look at. I have both a 144Hz monitor and an IPS, and I slightly regret the 144Hz one. TN panels are shit. I'd personally wait for a new GPU. Arctic Isles and Pascal are going to be some good shit.
>>52079554
>Budget crown:
>AMD Radeon R9 380X
wtf, this is BUUUUUUUUULSHIT. maybe the 380 or the 950 but not the 380x turd
i have a Corsair hx620w, a little outdated i think (7-8 years). Is it enough to run a R9 380 or should i get a GTX 960?
Is the GTX 950 the best 900p card?
>>52079990
That could easily run a 380. 380 doesn't draw as much as people would have you believe, and you could run a 980Ti off a 620W PSU. Get educated, son.
>>52079962
>>52079997
I'll admit I feel a little out of touch for the best budget GPU. But the budget crown also takes into account the future. I wouldn't want a 950 going into 2016.
>>52079990
And maybe. Just. Maybe you should consider replacing your PSU if it really is 7-8 years old. That thing is entering housefire risk territory. They do degrade over time.
I have an old cpu(i5 650 3.2Ghz from 1st Generation i5 ) and i want to buy a new gpu for it.What would be the highest gpu i can buy without bottleneck?Thanks.
>>52080057
what PSU do you suggest me if i want to buy a R9 380X? It seems a safer choice to change both at the same time
>>52080833
600w is a lot of W, you don't need anything, that psu may die only of old age at this point
What sort of over clock figures you have gotten with 980ti?
Just got this card and I thought I'd give overclocking a try (never have before). Tried getting clock to 1075, but it crashed on me. Almost shit my pants. But, 1060 seemed stable enough and I managed to get the memory up to max, but turned it down just in case that was contributing to the crashing. Did I do good for my first overclock?
>>52080918
whyd you shit your pants if it crashes?
>>52080934
Never done it before, didn't know how bad my fuck-up was (or wasn't)
>>52080918
>Overclocking an AMD card
Don't do it dude. Not worth it.
Seriously, AMD cards come out the gates OC'd just to compete.
>Buying new cards when a node jump is finally incoming <7 months.
ISHYGDDT
>>52080918
You don't need massive memory overclocks - just nudge the voltage up +10mv or +15mv and see if it stays stable at 1100 core.
>>52080978
> AMD cards come out the gates OC'd just to compete.
You need to shut the fuck up and educate yourself. The 285 beats a 960 and a 380 stabs the 960 in an alley and leaves it to bleed to death.
>>52081467
I'll try that tomorrow, thanks.
>>52080903
bump
Is it worth tweaking voltage when you overclock?
>>52082000
For most cards, yes - then its a matter of cooling it.
>>52082026
My r9 390 temperature is 80 degrees and voltage is 1.313v is that ok?
I have been living with an AMD ATI HD 6950 2GB for 4.5 years and I am thinking about upgrading to a 980 Ti. Should I do it, or shall I wait until pascal?
>>52082045
For that sort of voltage sure. The hawaii cards will take a beating though what 390 do you have?
Pic is my default clocks for example (its got aftermarket cooling so don't even think you'll get close to these temps on 99% of cards).
40 c. with playing the Witcher 2 at maxed out settings (no ubersampling) EVGA Hybrid 980Ti
>>52081009
that's good to know, was almost going to go for the 390 instead of the 380.
Sitting on a 7950 right now. Am I going to get cucked if I buy a 390 right now
Gtx750ti here. Should i get a r9 380(x) now or wait?
>>52083290
Don't fucking listen to these people. There will always be a contingent of people here claiming youre an idiot for buying a card right now because the next big thing is just 6 months away!
> inb4 its different this time !!
got an R9 380 for x-mas, anything specific I should know? so far it's working great. definitely an improvement over my old HD 7850
I spent the Christmas money I got on the evga 960 short (muh kawaii itx)
Was it a good idea to do it now or should I return it and wait for the next series go push prices down
>>52082096
Does anyone else here own 980Ti? I'm interested in what kind of overclock numbers you've gotten.
>>52083781
There will always always always be new cards "right around the corner" that will push the current cards prices down. You need to stop being an indecisive cuck. If you needed the card, and you're happy with the card, keep the card.
>>52083781
Should;ve got a 380.
That aside in that price bracket waiting for the next new card isn't really worth it as yo uaren't on the bleeding edge. Once you get to the tier above (at least whats currently 970 and 390 territory) it is worth waiting - but that is only because a node shrink is coming and they don't happen every 5 mins.
>>52083852
The average core overclock for a 980ti tends to be 1450mhz to 1500mhz.
>>52079554
I want to hop on the red team.. But i know nothing about AMD.
1. who makes good cards. ( powercolor and sapphire sound like asian knockoffs) I like MSI but their card has 2 fans while many other manufactures have 3.
2. I use opensuse as my daily driver. To my knowledge amd has no drivers that are worth a shit. If im on linux most of the day should i stick with green team?
3. Do amd cards perform better with amd cpu?
I currently have a fx-8350 and a i-5 2500k
I've never had a working ATI card. I had a 7970, pc would just blue screen all the time so i returned it an got a GTX 680 4gig.
Thanks for the help fellow /g/entoomen
>>52079554
Why is the 380X have the budget crown? I got a NEW Sapphire 290 off of newegg for $220, came with DiRT Rally for free. It blows the 380X out of the water in every aspect.
>>52084055
>1. who makes good cards.
Avoid Asus
>3. Do amd cards perform better with amd cpu?
I currently have a fx-8350 and a i-5 2500k
Fow a whole bunch of reasons strictly speaking AMD gpus with Intel cpus works best. Ironically Nvidioa + AMD is a viable combo as well (its not like AMD + AMD doesn't work fyi).
>>52084111
New 290's are getting hard to find.
>>52083913
with how much extra voltage is that? does it shorten the lifespan of the GPU by how much if I subject it to extra volts?
So
I have this strange thing where most games at 100% gpu usage give me a temperature of 70C, but assassin's creed syndicate reaches 80.
Does anyone know why exactly? Would it have to do something with VRAM usage? Pic related.
Thinking it's time to upgrade, running a gtx 580 with i7 2600k. What's a new card that'd go well with that CPU?
>>52084180
Maxwell doesn't respond well to voltage - most maxwell cards (including the 980ti) clock as high as they can on stock volts. Just upping the power limit gives it the headroom it needs.
In general giving any card extra voltage does nothing to the lifespan of the card as long as it is properly cooled.
>>52084204
Games will slam cards in different ways, so if its hitting tahiti in an area tahiti isn't strong at the card is probably working harder.
Plus certain game settings are ore demanding than others.
>>52084219
Assuming you have overclocked your chip the most expensive gpu you can afford will go well with it.
>>52084256
Cant even get +200 stable on my 980Ti, pretty shit luck with the silicone lottery then
>>52084290
Thems the breaks. The only certainty in overclocking is that it doesn't always work. You can try bumping the voltage up a bit but you are unlikely to get far.
I suppose though this is why the lieks os msi and EVGA can charge insane amounts of shekels for the lightning and kingpin cards so you don't have to run the lottery.
>>52083781
Get the 380 short instead.
I got about 30ish? FPS with this +165mhz GPU clock offset to TW2 with everything maxed
It's good I guess, from 90 to 115-120
>>52084256
Thanks, I guess I should look further into what's going on with them game settings. It's that kind of thing where you can get 30 even on very high settings, but you won't get 60 on the lowest. It's just disgusting.
>>52082015
>mfw my friends bought three K!ngP!ns each and returned them all for Gigabyte and MSI Lightning OC cards
Those dipshits went for the 76% ASIC models,too
>>52083852
I can get each one of my 980 Tis to about 1390MHz, but when I run them in SLI at that speed, something fucks up and causes crashes. I've brought them down to 1375MHz in the meantime, only overvolted by ~0.025V and the load temps at ~64/55 degrees
>>52083913
>>52084363
Do CAD work and 3D animation/rendering, need reliable drivers.
If I had the leniency I'd have gone with AMD, but I really need to stick with nvidia for now
What does /gcg/ think about this video?
http://youtu.be/ZcF36_qMd8M
I know 2kliksphilip is a bad source napper and a faggot but is he right about anything in this video?
Gonna buy an amd card soon and was wondering: is xfx a good brand for them? And what's the difference with their black edition cards compared to normal cards?
>>52084568
He gets some stuff right, but not all.
Don't forget that Nvidia has poked a wasp nest recently by deciding they can use their sue happy tactic on samsung (hint: its not working).
>>52084655
XFX are solid cards not built for overclocking. Their black edition versions just run at a higher factory OC iirc.
>>52084135
why not ill purchase a 400 series (arctic islands)
I bet its going to be more like heat stricken desert
>>52085066
>>52079554
>>52085630
This is an attempt to eliminate the several GPU threads on /g/ every day. It's meant to clean up the board from this constant shit everywhere. Don't like it, hide it or filter it, but GPUs are technology.
Fuck off.
Gigabyte amd cards, yay or nay?
I grabbed a grx 970 msi
Am I good
>>52085722
They are alright - though a few recent models have been voltage locked which is an instant pass from me.
I was thinking about picking up a 390X but I found out that some of these cards draw over 400W under load. What the FUCK
>>52085741
That's what I just got. I hope I don't regret it.
>>52085761
They don't and you are an idiot.
>>52085773
Prove me wrong, faggot.
>>52085817
>total system
Its almost as if your chart doesn't say what you think it does!
Plus that doesn't specify peak or average.
>>52085817
That's the entire system, not the GPU.
Besides, that's most likely a spike. Barely anything draws that much all the time.
lrn2technology
>>52085846
We all know all of that power is going straight to the GPU. Don't be a fool.
>>52085704
/g/ is not your personal tech support team
/g/ is not your consumer review site
YOU fuck off
>>52085873
k
see you next thread
>>52085861
I forgot that Intel chips use zero energy, along with fans and hard drives.
So I've got a budget that can facilitate either an i7-6700k and a 980 or an i5-6600k with a 980ti.
What do?
>>52085916
Depends on your usage.
If you mostly play games, 980ti/i5. If you actually do video rendering, lots of VMs, or abuse of your CPU in some other way, i7/980.
Generally, i7s are not useful for most users. Only get it if you need it, otherwise it's a waste of money.
I'm looking at buying a new PC and using the old PSU from it which is 550w. I'm going to get an i5 4690k and either a 390 or a 970, but I'm a little concerned my PSU won't be able to handle a 390, will it?
>>52085916
6600k and the 980Ti
I turn off HT on my i7 anyway because you get better performance when gaming, but doing that effectively turns my i7 into an i5.
>>52085916
6600k, 980 ti of course.
IF it's for gaming of course. If you're using it for work then the 6700k.
750ti reporting in. waiting for pascal
>>52085954
>>52086031
>>52086055
Thanks lads, 6600k/980ti it is.
It's been 8 years since I made a PC.
I've got a GTX 780 in my new PC and I attached a raijintek after market cooler. Despite this I'm hitting nearly 100C on the core whilst running the witcher 3. It's just a metal heatsink, no fans but when using hardware monitor my GPU video engine is at 0% whilst the core is at 99%. Is this causing the overheat and if so is it a driver issue?
I have the latest drivers installed so I'm unsure on what to do. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
>>52086394
>no fans
dude...
>>52086394
Its not a passive cooler. You NEED fans.
best nvidia manufacturer?
>>52086558
Afaik msi and gigabyte are breddy good
>>52086428
>>52086516
It barely fits in my case as it is. Is running it with a side panel off a terrible idea?
I currently have a GTX 660. Should I upgrade now wait later if I plan on playing The Witcher 3? I may upgrade to a 4K display in the near future as well. What should I upgrade to? I don't care if it's AMD or Nvidia.
>>52086013
Anyone able to answer my question?
Is 550w PSU enough for 390 & i5-4690k, or should I go with the 970 instead?
>>52079554
how do i stop windows 10 changing my nvidia drivers.
I've selected don't install drivers in the control panel and hidden the update but it still re-installs the one it got from windows update.
>>52086661
>he fell for the windows 10 meme
So. My HD5870 freaks out whenever I overclock it even a single MHz either on the core or the memory when using the Crimson beta driver. I also can't even launch MSI Afterburner without having my secondary display flickering. Should I revert to the last Catalyst driver? I know this card only does 870MHz on the core and 1250MHz on the memory, so maybe the performance boost from using Crimson is higher than the one from OCing the card on Catalyst.
>>52080978
>What is a voltage increase
Get the fuck off my /g/ you tech illiterate faggot
>>52086648
You should be ok if it's a recent quality PSU, but there won't be that much room for overclocking. The cuck card might actually come in more handy here.
>>52086648
>>52086897
Nevermind, you'll be fine regardless unless there's some murder oc: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/R9_390_PCS_Plus/28.html
>>52086897
I can go like 6 months without overclocking and just get a 700w psu then. I'm upgrading from a GTX 460 786mb so I'm sure I can live without the overclock for quite a while.
>>52086630
Yes - even if you just get some low profile fans (they aren't that good compared to normal profile fans) it will go a million miles in cooling your gpu. Passively a morpheus might be good for 80w TDP, maybe. A 780 has a TDP of best part of 200w.
Sup people! I would like to upgrade my graphics card so that I will be able to at least play Fallout 4 in 60 fps and good graphics! What graphics card would you recommend me to buy considering my specs in the pic?
>>52087103
Overclock your ram and get a 390.
>>52086394
Holy fuck no fans I am laffin
Hi! I'm getting a free GTX770 by MSI from a friend of mine. I can either keep it or sell it off and buy a R9 390 now that the 770 has some value.
I don't really play demanding games, though. Thoughts?
>>52087103
Depending on your psu, a 390 or 970.
A 380 or 960 could also go as a budget option, but you will have to turn more settings down. Nonetheless, it'll run.
>>52087161
>now that the 770 has some value
>people still pay more than $200 for that old card
At least it actually had 4GB of VRAM
Got the stuff today, the CPU runs at 4.5
Gonna replace the 570 with a 960, soon though
>>52087103
Thanks for the help! :) i will need to upgrade my psu if i go for the 390... but can my cpu keep up then?
>>52087161
That's a tricky question. I imagine it's the 2GB version of a 770? That might bring some issues in future AAA games, but you should still run them with some settings turned down. If you don't play many demanding games, it's not worth going to a 390 - especially considering the 14nm generation coming next year. Otherwise, it could be worth a shot.
>>52087235
derp
>>52087245
Your 6600K should be enough - if not, just overclock it. You can't go much faster on 1151 boards anyway.
390 vs 390X
is it worth that much?
considering going dual gpus.
can only afford one card at a time.
running an i5 6500
I'm going to buy a dual Fjij card an no one can stop me!
>>52087330
From a pure price vs performance no, the 390x is not worth it.
>>52087346
Dual fiji could be a thing of beauty if AMD had the balls to slap a 140mm radiator on it.
>>52087374
ekwb is rumored to have gotten a pre-production sample from AMD to make a single-slot water-block like they did with the Nano, Fury, and Fury X. I'm upgrading to a custom loop just for that card.
It will be a swan-song build for the 22/28nm generation.
>>52087374
but the 390X would in theory last longer somehow?
or would it just be a preference thing
>>52087435
>It will be a swan-song build for the 22/28nm generation.
Not without an ARES III it won't be. Now if Asus make an ares version of fiji.........
>>52087346
>a setup that can probably play 4k at 60fps
>but with only 4gb
>crossfire never works because gameworks on all the games
>weaker, more expensive, and consumes more power than dual factory oc'ed 980 tis
Honestly can't think of a better way to cuck yourself
>>52087497
The 390x is only a hair faster - the only difference between it and the 390 at stock clocks are 300 stream processors and 50mhz core clocks. The core clock can be made up via overclocking.
The delta for 390/390x is the same as 290/290x. Its only a 10% difference tops realistically.
>>52087521
I'm going to get two of them for my Gigabyte mATX board. If DX12 and Vulkan deliver on their promises, then I won't have to worry about upgrading until the last generation 14nm card comes out.
>>52087583
Why don't you use an updated benchmark?
>>52087630
'Cuz neither AMD or Nvidia changed drivers.
>>52087630
>mfw I own a 750ti and 760
Jesus, that is a big gap to the 390/980.
>>52087617
>matx
One bad decision after another. Matx is not even that much smaller than an atx board and the cases are petty much the same size, especially the ones with radiator support. If done right you're sacrificing tons of expandability to be 5 liters in volume smaller. If done wrong like what you probably did then it's likely bigger than an atx case and you fucked yourself over again by trying to be different.
>>52087691
Try 4k lol
>>52087738
Holy hell, that's some serious face-wrecking by the 270X there. I remember it was just below the 760 when I bought it.
>>52087723
I have a second X99 computer for non-gaming and work usage. This Z97 build is strictly for gaming. I don't need the added expansion slots, I don't have more than two 1TB SSDs on it, and it's in a small case that fits in my desk's cubby. I can screw on radiator mounts to the outside of my desk and still keep the case small.
>>52087759
It is highly amusing for kepler owners - the 770, 780 and 780ti get destroyed by AMD cards that they were once faster than. In this case at 4k its not even close - a 290 is an entire tier of performance faster than compared to when it released.
>>52087820
I will never buy amd again m8.
>>52087820
Yeah, that's insane. At 4k a 290 is even faster than a 970, which used to absolutely rape it.
Sure looks like I made the right choice when I bought my Vapor-X.
>>52087846
I know its hard to understand that Nvidia has abandoned you, but shhh no tears now, only dreams.
>>52087806
I hope you're planning to use something like a mora and not externally mouthing a 360 or something like an idiot.
But who am I kidding, you probably got a 80mm radiator ready
>>52087869
You should try investing in some AMD stock since you're such a fanboi. I can already tell you where it's headed though.
>>52087846
AMD cards age much better than Nvidia, as proved by last generation's transition to the current one.
GPUs that once used to beat AMD's counterpart are now far worse than AMD. See, 270X to 750Ti, 290X to 780Ti. All Nvidia cards age like shit, especially right after the launch of a new line.
I hope you're not looking forward to Pascal unless you're buying one.
Nvidia's latest model is to get you to buy a GPU at least once every two years. Don't forget that.
>>52087891
Yea, what's wrong with that?
Do you not know how markets work? You're supposed to buy when it dips, not the other way around.
It's extremely hard for a company like AMD to get bankrupt. Right now, they're far from it. Investing it a month ago was actually a pretty good decision for anyone who did.
>>52087919
Don't forget the GODMACHINE Tahiti. A 7970/280x has beaten the following-
680
770
285
380
arguably 380x and it now rivals a 780 in many games. I doubt even hawaii will be able to last as long as that.
>>52087919
It's all the game generation - gcn.
Take a look a pre-gcn like the hd 4000 and HD 5000, you'll see that they abandoned support pretty much immediately.
That's the only silver lining with amd constantly rebranding shit, they have no choice but with provide support.
>>52087951
If I had the ability I would've been all over AMD stocks last year.
>>52087974
>you'll see that they abandoned support pretty much immediately.
>5 years is immediately.
>>52087871
My case is securely mounted onto my desk with home-made brackets. The case came with two grommets for external tubing and I have a wide gap between the wall and the desk.
My desk is massive and heavy, so it's very unlikely to move around and damage the loop, seeing as how the case is permanently fixed to the desk.
>>52087951
Damn, I'm so happy I bought AMD stocks back in August.
>>52087974
They did get support for at least half a decade. That's not too much, but it's what you should expect from hardware.
>>52087986
hd4000 got 3 years lel
Still, AMD abandoned perfectly competent cards that's still on par with lower mid tier offerings. It's not like the 6970 gets beaten Intel igp or something. AMD bad abandoned cards that runs modern games at 1080p medium settings fine.
>>52088042
When was the last time your 480 got anything beyond margin of error performance increase?
>>52088063
Nobody was taking about performance increases. We're taking about long term driver support.
>>52088110
If you aren't getting more performance what doesi tm atter? Your gpu won't explode and both Nvidia and AMD give up caring about whether these old cards work with the latest and greatest. By this point the drivers for those cards are as mature as they are ever going to be and thus put on legacy support.
>>52087951
Meanwhile...
>Nvidia’s high-end graphics cards are reportedly suffering shortages worldwide which have led to a 15% increase in prices. Digitimes reports that these shortages have hit China especially hard following strong demand for high-end Nvidia GeForce graphics cards in the Chinese market.
>>52087961
Tahiti, and to a lesser extent Pitcairn, are some of the GOAT GPUs. Arguably on par with NVidia's G92 chip.
>>52087149
>>52086516
>>52086428
I attached 2 120mm fans and it now peaks at 55C. Thanks guys.
>>52088176
It matters because it guarantees compatibility with the latest software and it contains bug fixes, the entire point of drivers.
Nvidia releases drivers every month and I don't expect there to be performance increases with every single driver. If it did each card would get at least 12% faster every year.
I know it's different for you amd users because amd likes to withhold drivers and release them once a year so it's understandable to expect some performance increases, but for us Nvidia users it's all about the latest game ready drivers and other general bug fixes.
>>52088420
>Nvidia releases drivers every month
We know - when they were rapid-firing them for win10's release they started to fucking explode on everyone.
>>52088479
>trying this hard to make me change the subject to Crimson killing cards
I forgot to add with each are ready driver there are likely performance increases applied to older cards too.
Something 6000 users won't ever receive again.
Sad because 6990 is at least as powerful as a 290x. Imagine paying $800 for that shit and having the support abandoned 5 years later when the card is still capable. Oh amd.
>>52088563
>I forgot to add with each are ready driver there are likely performance increases applied to older cards too.
Then how come Kepler performs like shit in new games?
>>52088563
Don't talk shit without knowing your history first friend.
http://modcrash.com/nvidia-display-driver-damaging-gpus/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/warning-nvidia-196-75-drivers-can-kill-your-graphics-card/
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/laptops/news/windows-10-is-killing-nvidia-graphics-cards-720443
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/862417/geforce-drivers/windows-10-geforce-drivers-are-killing-samsung-and-lg-notebook-lcd-display-panels/
>tfw hoping that new card you ordered doesn't sound like a jet engine
>>52088600
Kepler cards will still work years to come.
GCN cards i'm not so sure about. the 290x is already three years old. makes me nervous thinking about anyone buying a fiji x2.
Baking your gpu a good idea?
I have an old 570 lying around in my desk, it died on me like a year ago, going full artefacts.
The biggest problem is that two screws are fucked and need to removed with tools I don't have.
Also, after I bake it, will it last some decent amount of time or just die again in no time?
>>52088667
Baking is only ever a temp solution.
>>52088634
>buying an air-cooled card and not buying a waterblock for it
>>52088679
Figured as much. How long would it last approximately?
>>52088706
longer than the 6000 series
>>52088706
Depends on the abuse you give it post baking, but I would guess a couple months at best. The cooler you keep the card the longer it will last as you'll be stopping (or at least slowing the rate of) the solder expansion and contraction.
>>52088696
>stick fancy waterblock on gpu
>install fancy water cooling system in rig
>system springs a leak
>no more gpu
>>52088040
>They did get support for at least half a decade.
Meanwhile Nvidia cards released in 2004 received updates until the beginning of this year
>>52089271
Updates != enhances
Cards don't need constant updates unless they're broken. Updates don't mean meaningful support.
how is the powercolor pcs+ r9 390 8gb?
about to buy one and all the reviews i seen are mostly positive.
>>52089625
Good cooler/10 and thats what matters for hawaii.
>>52089625
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/R9_390_PCS_Plus/35.html
>bought 970 acx 2.0 with free backplate and game for $280
>Nvidia is soon going to become illegal
>same card is back up to $40-60 more at the moment
>new GPUs will be more expensive at release due to no competition
It's like I accidentally made the greatest investment of all time. If you have a good enough PSU you better be looking at the 390 while it's still $300 right now.
>>52089785
>970
>greatest investment
o i am laffin
>>52089785
>Nvidia is soon going to become illegal
Only in the /g/ meme world
>>52089939
Well the shield tablets might be barred from sale in the US for a little while due to the samsung vs Nvidia case.
>>52089964
Nuffing will happen
>>52090009
Doesn't matter if it did nobody buys Shields.
>>52089737
holy shit the 390 is like 1-2fps behind the 980 in 1440p kek and 200 dollars cheaper
>>52079554
Oh, oops, forgot to increment the thread number in the pic.
>>52090186
Overclocked out of the box
>>52090186
but it can't overclock nearly as well as a 980 can and an overclocked 980 can get close to stock 980 TI performance in some games.
no you will never a achieve a 1450 MHz overclock on a 390.
>>52090310
You mean to 290x base clocks? The memory overclock doesn't matter and you know it. A 390 only runs at 1ghz core clocks which is what a 290x does.
>>52090334
A 1100mhz 390x can nearly match a 980ti lol.
>>52090364
mileage varies. show me a fallout 4 benchmark of it performing that well, its impossible.
>>52090392
>GoyWorks title
>>52090392
Hardocp recently did a 390 review and a 1190 mhz 390 was besting (only just) a 1542mhz 970 in fallout 4 (the original point was about a 390 remember).
>>52090344
The 390 is a 290 8GB overclocked
>>52090392
A 390x will never beat a Fury, let alone the much more powerful 980 ti.
It's always the same guy posting the same cherry picked benches without the fury/fury x in it.
>>52090519
A reference 390x only 6fps behind a 980ti at 4k. Clearly its impossible to make up those 6fps.
>>52090519
Oh fuck 2fps! DAMN YOU AMD
>>52090364
>4/7/20+ frame difference
that is not nearly, that is way behind since each additional frame requires vastly higher resources, diminishing returns and all, you probably need to go 100 Mhz higher just to push it up 3-4 more frames
>>52089785
>>new GPUs will be more expensive at release due to no competition
ok
>>52090555
That you probably do and in the scenario the extra 100mhz would get you within margin of error of 980ti performance.
For what its worth hawaii ONLY gets close to 1) a reference 980ti and 2) only while at 4k and some 1440p titles. At 1080p it simply doesn't stand a chance.
>>52089572
Update = support
eol = zero support
Take a newly released titles and test them with old drivers and again with game ready drivers. You'll often time see 15~30% performance increases. That along with game bug fixes such as textures disappearing. (like what's happening with the crimson drivers now but amd won't release a fix until next year)
You can literally go through all 12 game ready drivers released the past year and you can see the performance increase statements on the release notes.
>>52090538
A Fury X gets an improvement of 1fps when overclocked lol
But keep dreaming, I'm sure if you dream hard enough your poorfags card will match a Fury X
What would be a good upgrade from GTX 770 without breaking the bank?
Or should I wait longer before upgrading.
>>52090553
>4k
>>52090692
>dank memes
No mr shitposter, no.
>>52090695
There really isn't one until you go balls out at the top end. Just overclock it more.
>>52090740
Yups - thats when hawaii can match a 980ti. In a gamesworks game no less.
>>52090743
Thanks that's what I thought. I'm kinda choosing between lowering settings to get 60fps or spending $300+ for a small improvement. Guess I'll wait until the next gen drops.
>>52090782
Get fucked
I play fast fps and solo games, I can only handle one, playing at 120+ fps in1080p 144hz or 60 fps 1444p 60 hz. What should I chose ? I'm sorry if I fall in some sort of /g/ meme, feel free to chastise me, but help me nonetheless.
>>52090883
>stock performance in a discussion about overclocking.
You did good anon, you did good.
>>52091001
R9 390 probably
>>52090575
Have you never heard the phrase "Only game in town" ?
This will literally be the case.
Why does anyone get a GTX 980 when the R9 Nano exists?
>>52091251
The Nano is too expensive.
>>52091251
>649$
>>52091251
>fury nano
>not the worst and overpriced card ever made by amd
>>52090441
m8 amd literally has no good games optimized for it. name 3
>>52091021
>still loses by 12%
>implying anyone actually buys the expensive reference cooler 980 ti's
>>52091314
>>52091317
Same price as 980 Ti which I see a lot of on /g/.
Please help, why don't crossfire enable?
>>52091361
Star wars, battlefied 4, Tomb raider, STALKER.
>>52091384
12% performance difference is capable of being made up by the 15% increase in core clocks we are talking about. Plus its not about the 980ti being so much better than hawaii, its about hawaii being capable of reaching two entire performance tiers above where it sits.
>>52091408
with the 980/390x performence...Only retarded like nano
>>52091459
*man
>>52091417
It might be speccy being retarded - go test some games.
>>52091419
lol no, we all know 390x are already overclocked nearly balls to the walls out of factory. You'd be lucky to get 50mhz oc out of it.
Take a look at that chart again, the 980 ti is only behind the 295x2 by 8%, not even fully overclocked
Just imagine what would have happened had someone said last year nvidia will release a single gpu that beats the dual 295 while only consuming 1/2 the power, they'd be laughed at and get called a fucking retard and the thread would get sticked with 400 smug anime face replies.
>>52091490
I did but vally said only one card is being used too, I Also tried my friends gtx 970s in SLI and the top PCIe slot not what if there was only one ward or two would not work.... Is this a mobo issue? could my mobo not supporter SLI or Crossfire?
>>52091553
Ignore the SLI part just found the mobo doesn't support sli
Why is it so hard to find a cheap tenkeyless keyboard that isn't chiclet? Why is chiclet even a thing? It's so bad
Just bought a Sapphire 390X Nitro.
The thing is: I cannot find any review or tech news information about the Nitro edition of the 390X.
It was cheaper than the 390X Tri-X but had the exact same specs to the clock and everything. The shroud and cooling looks the same in pictures just different colour accent.
is it the same card as the Tri-X or did I fuck up?
>>52091535
You are an idiot. We are not comparing hawaii to an overclocked 980ti - thats simply never going to happen. Further more 1100mhz out of hawaii (as thats what +50mhz on stock 390x clocks gives you) can be done by 99% of cards - its going beyond that that is tricky but is still entirely doable for a lot of cards.
>>52091600
Off the top of my head the nitro has the backplate, the tri-x doesn't.
>>52091419
>star wars
multiplayer only garbage. you have to actually pay more to even get all the maps. retarded ea shit
>tomb raider
very meh.
>new stalker
nigger this is literally the only game.
still no reason to buy amd. i haven't since 2012 and never will again.
>>52091629
1100 only benches slightly higher than a 970
>>52091657
>>new stalker
What wait
>>52091629
Well that's the weird thing: the Tri-X OC comes with a backplate version. In the listing specs the the Tri-X + backplate and the Nitroare identical. http://www.sapphiretech.com/catapage_pd.asp?cataid=69&lang=eng
Could be different cooling solutions but I am not sure. Can any anon confirm?
>>52091698
>buy amd for a 5 year old stalker game
i thought there was a new one on the way. even worse m8
>>52091723
Oh got me excited for a sec
Dipshit amdrones
>>52091657
>new stalker
I never said new stalker, I said stalker. CoP has the AMD logo as part of the boot splash screens.
>>52091683
At 1080p sure, at 4k 1050mhz is higher than a 980.
>>52091723
>>52091748
Escape from Tarkov you fucks.
>>52091699
>>52091600
>>52091629
Just answering my own question here:
The Nitro is in fact identical to the Tri-X+backplate so basically I got a 30EUR discount on the Tri-X and a more understated color scheme.
noice
>>52091770
Get real nobody plays 4k at 16fps
It's only under those edge cases where lower end cards even hope to get close, where a $200 card is 2fps from a $400 one and the $400 1 fps from the $1000 one.
>>52090692
A Fury X gets a ~10% boost when OC'd.Where did you get 1fps from?
>>52091846
Not all games are that low fps at 4k. Plus /g/ and /v/ thinks enabling SSAA or 8xMSAA is a good thign regardless of resolution despite both being performance killers.
High settings with an overclocked 390x will give a damn fine 4k experience in the majority of new games.
>>52091926
yeah love dat rock smooth 20fps 4k on my 1080p 21" tn monitor
>>52083366
I am in this exact same predicament. I'm building a completely new rig, and going to be putting in a 390. Take that in consideration.
>>52091210
You're pretending like you know exactly what Greenland and Pascal will offer. News flash, no you fucking don't. Fuck off.
>>52089572
The Win 7 x64 15.7.1 driver for the HD6950 has broken HDMI audio you have to install it from the 15.10 driver they don't offer on the download page anymore and it breaks video output in games if you select 4:2:2 chroma subsampling in the drivers (this might only be true for crossfire setups)
The crimson beta drivers breaks crossfire completely and I heard OpenCL doesn't work with them I haven't tested it
So i got a Sapphire 390 for christmas this year and was thinking of buying a new monitor to go with it since my old one is way too outdated (1680x1050), however i am on a pretty tight budget, im considering this:
http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=hk&cs=hkdhs1&l=en&s=dhs&sku=391-BCCQ
Because of 1440p, ips and price but im still not sure since it's only 60hz. Should i instead buy some 1080p monitor with higher hertz and possibly even freesync or is 1440p worth it? I also don't want to upgrade gpu for quite some time, will my card become obsolete significantly faster if i gaym in 1440p? I also plan on using this monitor for a few years, will i regret it if i choose a higher resolution over having higher Hz?
I should mention that i am not from the US and that the price on that page is not what i would be paying for it (less), this is purely about if i should choose a cheap good 1440p monitor or a 1080p one that has better refresh rate
>>52092528
>gcn
>this time even more compact for extra housefire
It's going end in disappointment with how bad fiji went.
Pascal looks GOAT, improvements on everything
>>52092692
Except a die shrink literally means it needs less power and it'll output less heat, countering the housefire-ness. GCN is still pretty damn competent.
>>52092737
nah lower power consumption doesn't matter because of how dense it is. 5960x for example runs hot as hell and no watercooling loop can tame it under full load and oc'ed.
just like how some arm socs get to 80c even though they're only using like 1w.
>>52092580
I think that monitor looks really good; it has positive reviews, anti glare, and <6ms is accceptable for modern IPS panels. I haven't had much experience gaming on 60hz vs 120 but I just got a 24" 1080p IPS 60hz 5ms and haven't had any moments where I felt like the refresh rate affected my enjoyment. I could be a pleb and 120hz might be something I would be spoiled by if I had been accustomed using it long-term.
>>52092580
If you regularly play any sort of fps or fast action games at all go with 144hz.
bretty gud, goes to 1450 on boost
Thanks for the input, i mostly play singeplayer games, like Fo4, Batman Arkham Knight etc. I only rarely play fps games and when i do its mostly just casually, some people however say that having 120+hz is a very big difference aswell, also a big thing for me is that 2k will be taxing for my card and make it obsolete faster than if i got a 1080p monitor, i really wouldn't wan't to play on a lower resolution in a few years because my gpu can't handle high settings + high resolution.
Pascal and Volta are going to completely crush AMD unless samsung starts to seriously fucking teamwork with AMD and make AI to invent the bestest of the universest GPU knows to space kind. #cocaine&caviar
>>52093521
Got a 750ti for dirt cheap. 60 bucks. Plan to wait for pascal before I upgrade. When is it rumored to come out?
I have this 390x and for some reason my VRM 2 Temperature seems to be stuck on a random temperature. Today is 51C bot it was 49C some days ago, is this a case of bad sensor?
When is the next generation Nvidia/AMD shit coming out again?
>>52094204
Next generation AMD came out two years ago
What non-reference gtx 980 ti do you guys recommend for someone who's not looking to overclock?
I upgrade every 5 or so years.
>>52094716
They are all the almost the same but some g1 have coil noise
>>52094716
also wait Pascal/Arctic Islands
>>52094886
coil whine can be prevented by limiting the fps of the graphics card to a corresponding number near to the refresh rate of the display (like 80-120fps)
>>52094716
Classified is the best and cheapest custom card. It uses the same voltage controller as the lightning and hof so they're all cross compatible.
>>52095462
EVGA also has pretty good customer service
>>52088696
Enjoy all those points of failure :^)
>>52090695
I'd say wait for the next generation and get the 1070/490.
