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Stream:
http://www.spacex.com/webcast/
Taking bets on:
1. Launch scrubbed
2. Launch failure
3. Landing failure
gonna explode like the first 2
>>51988491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P8UKBAOfGo
>what kinda launch u want
>implying these consumers care about anything other than their toys
>open /g/ to create this thread
>someone already did
Nice.
>>51988434
Hope it hits the new world trade center
>>51988434
Oh shit, time for comfy
>>51988434
Finally a 10/10 thread. Thanks OP.
>>51988517
It looks to me like they used a fairly bright light to film the interview which looking right into it can easily make your eyes water a bit
This launch will succeed. Dubs confirm.
Betting on launch scrubbed, because I never see launches live.
i will start to edge before T-30minutes and cum at T0 while watching it live
what a time to be alive
>>51988595
kek get those webm making machines ready boys, we seeing explosions today
MODS STICKY THIS THREAD
>>51988434
It better blow up
>>51988612
Nah, you should start at launch and cum on landing. If it landed successfully then you should stop fapping and get a life. Elon believes in you, do you believe in Elon?
>>51988667
His smile and optimism: gone
I'd like to say "isn't this more /sci/'s deal" but knowing /sci/ the thread will get derailed or ruined by calling space X's math inferior or people claiming it's all a hoax because the planet is flat/square/rhombus shaped
>>51988434
The plan will be a success yet again!
BTW, you said you were going to use another image when you made the thread.
>>51988434
Succeed or die trying.
I don't understand. Humans have built rockets before without explode. How are we now building them to explode?
Can someone invent a way to put things into space without using huge amounts of rocket fuel shoved into a tube and pointed upwards?
>>51988807
>Humans have built rockets before without explode
Bullshit. They are exploding all the time, that was the whole point. Making non-exploding rocket is really weird and unnatural.
>>51988856
Space Elevator or Space Slingshot/MAC propulsion. I prefer the latter. It'll be like a fucked up roller coaster.
>>51988807
>>51988856
What's the point of sending anything to space if there aren't explosions?
live stream?
>>51988856
no
easiest way to conquer the amount of energy required to move a certain amount of mass several kilometers into the air is with a rocket.
>>51988883
because they can then cause larger explosions on the way down
What's the point of sending anything to space if there isnt anything but stones and death?
>>51988856
You can. Have a good idea? Start studying related subjects, may even graduate if you're really interested. Good luck.
>>51988807
Plenty of ships exploded in the past.
Every single action of a space mission is a literal shit show and everything could go wrong at any second, destroying somtimes billions of dollars of stuff and/or multiple human lives. Not much has changed in the 50 years. Also the moon landing and the mars missions were all faked.
Update your post OP
bump
>>51988434
T MINUS HOW MUCH NOW?!
This is your obligatory reminder that Elon Musk used to be bald.
>>51988904
I'll get back to that as soon as I finish curing cancer
>>51988911
>>51988961
webcast link
0d 0h 34m 17s
I hope it crashes again
>>51988962
He got new hair with his increase in pay, pal.
it is happening
>>51988962
>autistic style on the left
By the way, did you hear that intro?
>confirmed
WE'RE LIVE NOW
Am I listening to whales creaming their barnacles?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5bTbVbe4e4
live stream
>>51989039
sounds like a ftl soundtrack remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygH9VcV7IBg
>>51989042
compared to http://www.spacex.com/webcast/ which is faster?
>watching at youtube stream because it isn't lagging on my toaster
I hope there is no big difference in time between streams.
>>51988517
>Boeing paying astronauts to blame autismusk for stealing their contracts
I didn't expect I'd support this guy, but if you ignore all the autists that worship him, he's done some nice things. Like bringing the launch costs down to a less ridiculous amount.
>>51989060
youtube will be a better stream if you have shit internet, but the one on the spaceX site will probably have less delay.
>>51989060
>he wants his stream faster
>>51988434
>Adobe Flash Player v10.1 or above is required for you to watch this video.
i dont even
>>51989100
>Livestream Player HD ver. 2.4.0
WE HAVE LIFT OFF
>>51988807
No one actually answered your question. It's because they've constructed all the parts in house and drastically reduced the cost. Like reduced to the point that a large shuttle child take a couple hundred people for $500,000 each.
If it could be done, then this has huge implications for future space travel
Not seeing the live.
>>51989156
>T- 22 minutes
>lift off
What?
what a sossage party
>>51989117
ULA > SpaceX
Look how diverse SpaceX is!
I'm really digging the timeline thing they put at the bottom of the stream.
>John Asperger
>>51989167
>streaming by potato
>>51988807
production quality is shit need more funding
>>51989060
youtube has about 20 sec delay
>>51989207
>tfw just being black or female engineer will mean you don't do work and strut around being a show pony
>>51989215
It's gonna explode with the payload still attached
>>51989222
>I also noticed
Did he just say that they didn't address the strut problem but instead addressed other problems?
Who are all these people walking behind?
are there any russians and chinese spies in spacex?
>>51989267
He said that they addressed that and other problems.
>getting le r/futurology man on stage
Why.
>>51989282
yes
>OctoWeb Pro Extreme+ 2015 Black Edition
>more interested in the "clean""men" than whatever he was being showed
>>51989306
>knowing about any of that
hi leddit!
>>51989282
Who do you think is responsible for previous crash?
>>51988434
2. obviously. nasa can't do shit, tax-money grave for obese man-childs.
can this livestream BE ANYMORE reddit?
PREPARE FOR LIFTOFF
is it me or this rocket reminds me a penis?
>>51989356
i am ready
>>51989365
Nigga you gay
It exploded, topkek.
>>51989353
Elon likes to shill on rebbit so it makes sense
>"It's.. taller."
>"It's like oxygen you breathe, but it's liquid.. huh."
Who hired this guy?
>>51989356
WHOAH
WHOAH
APPLE DOES IT AGAIN
MY MIND
HAS LIFTED OFF
>>51989365
Pretty much all rockets (with fairing) look like penises. Tall, erect, beautiful penises...
They better not fucking scrub again fuck
>erector
xDDD
>connected to the errector
tee-hee [spoiler]XDD[/spoiler]
>>51989384
This isn't just any air...it's a harmonious blend of diatomic oxygen and nitrogen molecules in the exact ratio that you need, with no waste or added impurities.
Introducing Appleâ„¢ Airâ„¢
16 moles = $899
64 moles = $1199
128 moles = $1799
>>51989387
It'll crash too in a few minutes.
Official SpaceX launch music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrLequ6dUdM
>>51989337
Plain incompetence. SpaceX is a meme.
>Cost to access space
$3.50
>>51989427
>not the Apollo 13 launch music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fra-m7RNMrU
>>51989167
how do you split your browser like that?
>>51989447
>le challenger faec
How long should it take from launch lift-off to landi.., I mean, explosion and being able to stop watching the stream without missing anything?
any way to play this without flash?
>>51989337
the struct manufacturer. But am surprised spacex didn't test the struct strength before putting them in the rocket.
>>51989472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5bTbVbe4e4
>>51989472
>YouTube
>html5
>>51989410
Fucking lel.
man, JUST LAUNCH IT ALREADY
>>51989462
8-10 mins bro
IT IS HAPPENING
IT BLEW UPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!
>>51989488
cool, thanks
>>51989495
didn't realize there was a youtube link
>>51989455
Vivaldi.
2 ways.
1. You can group two tabs and then right click on one of them and choose "tile tab stack"
or
2.Right click on page and select "add page to web panel".
LC-LD: GO FOR LAUNCH
OH SHIT ITS HAPPENING
>>51989462
Landing should be around T+9:30
FUCK, my body is not ready for this.
HERE WE GO NIGGAS
>>51989524
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
HERE WE GO
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
ITS GONNA EXPLODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIFT OFF
>>51989520
T-2 secs guys!
LIFT OFF
hasnt blown up yet
GOOOOOO
MAX Q
OH SHIT!
IT EXPLODED GUYS!
all is going well.
SUCCESSFUL LIFTOFF
>shhh
ALLAH ACKBAR
IT'S OUT OF CONTROL THEY'RE TRIGGERING SELFDESTRUCT!!!!!!!!!
STAGE SEP
LANDING OF STAGE 1
Anyone else's stream stuttering like crazy? My download bandwidth is insane so it's not my side.
>nerds going nuts while it separates
BOOM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT EXPLODED
>>51989585
Ah, american perring policies, are shit ;^)
>>51989585
all fine over here. 15MBPs over wifi
fuck, i wanna see the stage 1 do a flip
NASA must be eating their fucking hearts out
Ayy lmao well done earthlings
Don't worry, something will explode.
It has to!
Damn I missed it
>tfw you're so short you have to watch the launch live on your ipad because you can't see over people with average height
>mfw I live 20 mins from Kennedy Space Center
>mfw if it blows up I'll hear it
>>51989609
I doubt it's possible to see even during the day, unless you have some droid flying around to record it.
>sucend stage
>This guy on the right talking
>this guy on the right
jesus christ can he fuck off
Do they even know what they're talking about?
>>51989640
post feet
Anyone else noticing that the video they're showing is on replay?
john asperger is back
>>51989656
That guy looks suspicious
>>51989676
he's like damn that black bitch is fine senpai
>super-complicated thing
Yea, she clearly didn't do math at all.
JUST STOP TALKING HOLY FUCK
LANDING NOW GUYS
WE DID IT
>aliens watching the stream, laughing as we get so excited over some shittily made toys that barely make it out of of our own planet
>>51989676
He's Range Safety, ready to press the self destruct button
OH SHIT IT LANDED
U S A
S
A
OH MY GAAAAAAAWWWWDDDDD
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK
holy shit it worked
THEY DID IT
>>51989695
>WE
Heh, your shitposting didn't do much, kid.
THEY FUCKING DID IT
YES
They did it. The absolute madmen
>This fucking guy on the right
>"MUH PENCIL!"
>Gets btfo by people cheering
>Keeps giving the camera weird looks
USA
USA
USA
the absolute madman
Holy jesus, they did it!
>>51989713
>>51989712
>>51989707
Don't worry guys!
the payload can still crash with the satellite on space and explode there.
right ....
AMERICA WINS AGAIN
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
THE ABSOLUTE MADMEN
>>51989703
>using rockets
JEFF BEZOS BTFO
USA USA USA
THE DID WOOO USA USA USA MURICA WOOO
AYYYYYYYYY
>>51989721
>implying I'm not shitposting from the control center
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
Why is Elon Musk so perfect?
PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN, WHERE AT LEAST I KNOW IM FREE
>>51988434
USA USA
SpaceX deniers BTFO
Alright which one of you fags is this?
>>51989743
Yes, Clapistan gonna clap
>>51989769
>free
jokes on you, i live in jew york
Damn that shit worked
GUYS!
NOTICE HOW THE TELEMETRY HAS STOPPED UPDATING!
Like when it exploded last time.
Dude shut the fuck up, seriously.
We get it. They get it.
THE ABSOLUTE MAD MAN!!!!
does anyone keep an updated calendar of upcoming launchers?
They pulled it off
>>51989785
Let this car saleman talk.
Gonna report the obvious facts bro.
>>51989783
Naw, it changed just now.
WOW YOU TARDS, THIS WAS CLEARLY SHOT IN A STUDIO
WAKE UP SHEEPLE
SPACEX MORE LIKE HOAX
>>51989769
free to watch better men do things you wouldnt dream of trying to understand the science behind it aside from FIRE.
YOU EUROPE FAGS WILL NEVER DO THIS
>>51989775
you know youre a faggot when you automatically associate a clover with 4chan
Based SpaceX. Looks like removing the extra uncertainty of the drone ship did the trick.
>>51989783
it's because it reached its target orbit
What exactly is the point of launching these toy rockets into space? Do they plan on a manned mission to Mars?
>i can't hear him
>turn you mic on
fucking women kek
AMMMMMERICA
FUCK YEAH
>>51989800
He literally started talking about how when he first Google'd SpaceX which was probably a week ago.
1ST SATELLITE DEPLOYED
WE DID BOYS
WE FUCKING DID IT
>Rocket parts are European and so are most of the employees
>USA USA
:')
Yes, SMILE MOTHA FUCKA
this guy is nervous as fuck
So the first time it failed because of the moving platform.
Oh well this counts as success too.
From nearby cape Canaveral. Sounds like it exploded in orbit
Oh shit nigga the second stage is breaking apart. stuff floating away on camera!
>>51989823
Yeah, the most relevant parts comes from the EU, 'merican will have to deal with it
>>51989823
stay salty eurocuck
>>51989823
if that is true we used you as slaves to build our rockets :)
So good.
>>51989823
>Founder and CEO is south african
but he couldn't do it anywhere other than the land of the free
SCIENCE!!!
SCIENCE!!!
SCIENCE~!!!!
Is that debris?
>>51989812
>What exactly is the point of launching these toy rockets into space?
Money.
>Do they plan on a manned mission to Mars?
They say so, though it remains to be seen whether they have a shot or whether it's Musk's bait to lure ambitious engineers.
>>51989847
family please stop trying to banter, your making me embarrassed to share a country with you
>Parts falling off the rocket constantly
>retarded crowd keeps cheering
seriously, americlaps?
>>51989850
Science, bitches
>>51989823
it's a planetary effort, you dip
>u can only see 1 guis
>Two clearly visible
>>51989823
American-born idiots are bred to eat McDonald's all day and play XBox. If you look at all the great achievements claimed by the US, the vast majority were done by immigrants. This is why the US government encourages an influx of immigrants. The fatass burger munching apes who want to close off the borders have no clue.
>>51989850
*ENGINEERING!!!
>these fucking commentators
why do they even have them, they're just sperging out
Capitalism!
Capitalism!
Capitalism!
>>51989838
>sounds like
>in orbit
>>51989852
They say George Clooney is still out there
>>51989868
>This achievement is of no thanks to America whatsoever
>P-p-p-planetary effort
>>51989868
ITS A MEME, YOU DIP
>/pol/ faggots here
Fuck you.
MISSION SUCCESSFUL
GG GUYS
>is there another satellite?
this fucking cuck not paying attention.
>>51989868
led by the USA #1
U S A
These people need to be fucking fired.
The autist is back again
>>51989812
This mission was for the deployment of part of the Orbcomm satellite fleet, and had the secondary objective of returning the first stage.
If they can re-use it, thats easily $50M USD that doesnt have to be spent remaking the first stage for the next mission. They can simply refurbish what needs it on this stage, assemble the next second stage and payload on top, and launch again.
Instead of spending ~$65M USD per launch, they can cut it to a sixth that, easily.
Every time they can re-use the booster, thats another $50M USD or so that doesnt have to be spent on building the replacement.
And did he REALLY just say "Nobody wants to go back to Jaku?"
Those aren't satellites, they're Yeti coolers.
They're delivering a lunch of hamburgers and cheese steaks to the aliens as a peace offering.
Where's this "Jaku"?
>>51989899
u fucking idiot its a liftoff in reverse
LE STAR WARS REFERENCE SIGN OFF
...but what will happen to the 2nd stage?
>>51989912
>"Nobody wants to go back to Jaku?"
Yup.
Just kill me
>dat smile
>>51989488
>>51989472
>no webm or ogg stream
>>51989899
nice
>>51989920
TECHNO WEENIE IN DA PLACE
>>51989913
america saves the world yet again, this time with our superior cuisine
>That Star Wars reference
Lol so nerdy!1
>>51989899
look at all that freedom
>>51989923
orbit around earth till it ends up like sputnik
Who said jakku? The announcer? Sorry but I can't watch the stream rn
>>51989912
>And did he REALLY just say "Nobody wants to go back to Jaku?"
is that a quote from something?
>>51989942
One of the announcers.
wats the music now?
>>51989897
of course
>Discover this thread an hour & 20 minutes after it started.
>Try link anyway.
>ooo, stuff is still going on!
"With successful deployment of all 11 satellites, it is time to sign off for today."
>image on stream freezes
>>51989899
Europe cocks on suicide watch
>>51989938
Why don't they steer those towards the sun or out of orbit in general?
>>51989957
everything went perfect, including the experimental objective
>>51989952
test shot starfish - flight
>>51989923
Floats around in orbit for a while. At that altitude it will likely remain up there for thousands of years.
No explosions...
What a complete waste of my time.
>>51989676
You should fucking inform the FBI about this little senpai over here >>51989656
>>51989923
It's crashing into the ocean near australia I understand
>>51989984
I know right. No technology even.
>>51989970
THE SUN IS TO FAR YOU MORAN
>>51989992
Crashing this stage
>>51989982
It likely has enough fuel left to modify its orbit so that it will hit the atmosphere and burn up before crashing into the ocean.
>>51989970
not the mission. they could probably deorbit but there is no point
>>51989970
>Steer
How?
>>51990022
Steering wheel?
>>51990013
Was reaching low earth orbit part of you plan?
>>51989970
They've only just made it to low orbit. Getting it to the sun or anywhere else would require a ton of delta v that they don't have.
>>51990029
There are no people in the second stage though.
>>51990029
steered my dik in2 ur mum
>>51990015
Isn't garbage orbiting the earth a problem because it can crash into things?
>>51989982
The black woman said that it would deorbit, but I don't think I trust any of these announcers to say anything accurate.
>>51990046
Virtual steering wheel
>>51990035
Of courshe!
>>51990042
Ah, that makes sense
>>51990052
do you know how big the surface area of the earth is? no picture two aeroplanes going really fast in the sky and work out the odds of them crashing into each other
>>51990052
its only a problem for future generations who cares
I suppose the only people who weren't cheering were they guys making all those first stages, most of whom will not have a job in the morning.
>>51990080
We say that now but we keep sending junk up there increasing the odds
>>51990080
>do you know how big our oceans are? let's just dump all our toxic/radioactive waste...
>>51990086
Someone still has to refurbish the first stage. Also if the first stage ever fails then there still needs to be backups
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5bTbVbe4e4
>>51990050
>>51990081
>>51990093
By then we'll build a utopia on Mars anyway. Earth people will be the poorfaggots left behind.
>>51990086
They'll continue upgrading it and repairing it. You still have to maintian and upgrade it, you just dont have to rebuild it from scratch if it doesn't splode
>>51990096
>let's just dump all our toxic/radioactive waste...
we do exactly that. And it's completely safe so long as there's enough ocean to dilute it. We don't exactly send millions of satellites into space every day.
>>51990096
>two sattelites crash
>oh fuck, there goes two satellites
>fuck up oceans
>oh shit, there goes... oh shit oh shit oh shit
>>51990086
>first stage bolt screwer specialist
>first stage wire attacher specialist
>etc, etc
Yeah, what they gonna do now?
>>51989957
hey, stream just restarted, you get to watch it now
>>51990122
>>two sattelites crash
>>oh fuck, there goes two satellites
Dude, didn't you guys see Gravity?
>>51990140
>>51989957
Spoiler: America wins
>>51990096
>>51990122
remember all that oil that was leaked into the gulf of mexico and nothing happened.
>>51990136
Now they can start working on the falcon heavy.
>>51990142
Kessler Syndrome requires a significant amount of debris in orbit than what we have now.
>>51990142
I also have seen star wars, star trek and several other sci-fi movies. How is it even related?
>>51990096
you mean
>let's just dump a few hundred tonnes of toxic/radioactive waste into the ocean
which is actually being done hourly. stupid analogy because the ocean is still safe for you to dunk your fat arse into.
>>51990093
They're all going the same direction on nearly the same orbital paths so unlike in Gravity its not really a huge danger.
>>51990115
>we'll
you gonna curl into the cargo bay, mitch?
>>51990171
wow rude
>>51990165
>nothing happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill#Consequences
>>51990185
Nigga I'm getting my brain uploaded into the Singularity in 2045
>tfw I thought that they were wasting money trying to land rockets on pads
>>51989970
A lot more difficult than it sounds. It is easier and cheaper to just wait for it to decay in orbit.
>>51990224
always bet on Musk
>>51990166
Build the BFR.
>>51990231
I don't think its orbit decays at that altitude
>>51989970
They will need SuperSputnik robo" herder"pup2000 for such roundup task.
Maybe since you are tough guy with mouth you bring your lasso.
>>51990231
>in LEO
>orbit decaying
wouldn't be much point of sending shit there if the orbits decayed
>>51990296
the ISS is in LEO, and it's orbit decays.
Jesus, the landing back at the Cape of the 1st stage was fucking amazing
>>51990253
LEO still interacts with the atmosphere, and any craft in LEO will eventually decay and fall back to Earth. It can take years, but without periodic reboosting (most large satellites have onboard fuel and engines), it all comes back down.
>>51990296
This isn't Kerbal Space Program, the atmosphere extends a good deal past the Von Karman line.
>>51990296
bruh, there's stuff slowing you down pretty high up there
wow
>>51990337
I would expect the drag to be pretty minimal at 625km. You're outside the thermosphere. You're basically just colliding with individual molecules that happened to get spit out of the thermosphere.
>>51990199
All of that is inconclusive as to any causation associated with the spill
>>51990337
No joke I learned almost everything I know about space through KSP and sometimes I have a hard time reconciling that information with the reality, like atmosphere in LEO. Also asparagus staging, but I was introduced to that with "okay, first of all, this is bullshit"
>>51990433
please stop posting here Tony Hayward.
>>51990440
Same. So much of KSP is accurate I find myself using it as my first source of information for how orbital mechanics works.
>>51990384
Yep, that is one of the most amazing things I have ever witnessed
>>51990521
same. Hands down the most amazing live stream I ever watched. Watching the Curiosity rover landing live is second.
>>51990563
The most amazing livestream I've watched was of a girl getting double-fisted in thecunt.
These are truly some great times to live.
>>51990440
Falcon Heavy is actually going to use asparagus staging, sort of. It'll be the first rocket with in-flight fuel transfer from the boosters.
>>51990620
doesn't an ULA rocket do it already?
>>51990620
source?
asparagus is at least 4 boosters right?
>>51990674
It pretty much just means fuel transfer between active rockets
>>51990687
ah right.
>tfw spacex may never launch a falcon heavy with 48 cross fueled liquid fueled boosters.
>>51990674
http://www.nss.org/articles/falconheavy.html
It cross-feeds in flight from the outer boosters to the center stalk. In KSP you could hit X two more times and this would be full-asparagus.
>>51990672
It's in potential future plans for an upgrade to Delta IV, but that may not ever get built since they're working on Vulcan. Currently no one does in flight crossfeed.
>>51990721
kekd
is there a single book I could read to learn all I need to know about Rockets? Kind of like Dennis Ritchies C Programming book?
>>51989796
http://www.spacex.com/missions
>>51990856
Rocket science isn't that simple.
>>51990620
Crossfeed on Falcon Heavy may not actually happen. I think it's not confirmed dead, but apparently unlikely.
>>51990913
Makes sense. It kind of ran counter to the whole philosophy of mass production and reuse.
Musk just made a telecon call. Check it out:
https://twitter.com/NASAWatch
>>51990856
Pic related seems to be the core "must read" book.
>>51990913
Why? Source?
>>51990933
>It kind of ran counter to the whole philosophy of mass production and reuse.
how?
>>51991019
>Source
Sorry, none right at hand and finding a reliable one may not be possible. It's just something I now read regularly on /r/spacex when crossfeed is talked about, so it might just be a rumor, which is why I put "may" there.
>It kind of ran counter to the whole philosophy of mass production and reuse
Not that Anon, but I don't really agree. The center core and the side boosters will be different and non-interchangeable anyways, so it doesn't really matter if crossfeed exists or not I think.
>>51991101
>so it doesn't really matter if crossfeed exists or not I think.
wut?? what has interchangeability with the core have to do with anything?
The benefit is when the boosters detach, the core will be half way to orbit yet still be full of fuel
>>51991162
I was talking about the cores being different from the side boosters anyways, so that when you land them, you can only use cores as cores and side boosters as side boosters. The concept of making the center core go further in itself doesn't go against reusability, it just makes it less likely for the boosters and core to be recoverable.
>>51991208
>it just makes it less likely for the boosters and core to be recoverable.
why?
>>51991244
The side boosters would have less remaining fuel for the landing and the center core would be even faster and even higher up, so safely returning it gets much harder.
>>51991298
>The side boosters would have less remaining fuel for the landing
nope. They just detach whenever they are down to the fuel they need to land.
>center core would be even faster and even higher up,
not if you give it a heavier payload.
>>51991336
It all depends on mission parameters in the end, it can be flown fully (all three) reusable, half reusable, and fully expendable. Crossfeed theoretically allows for another variable to be adjusted, that being center core burn length, which can, depending on the other variables, have positive or negative impact on the landing capability of the different boosters.
>>51991441
>have positive or negative
There's no negative impact though. The core being able to burn longer means more flight time without carrying the weight of the boosters, but still getting the same amount of thrust in the end. You just get more delta V. You can use that to go further, or carry more payload. If you want to go further, put more fuel is the second stage, so the first stage doesn't go as far and can return efficiently. There's no overall net negative here.
>>51991569
There can be a negative, for example if you go further and carry more payload. It'll be a question of whether SpaceX will only offer reusable configurations or also allow expendable ones.
>>51991641
>for example if you go further and carry more payload.
you never need to do that though. You can always not make the first stage go any further by either adding more payload, adding more fuel to the second stage or simply not having as much fuel over all.
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