>Tell my friends I'm going to start taking more steps to ensure my privacy (VPN, downgrading from Windows BotNet)
>"You should have nothing to hide if you're not doing anything wrong"
>"I don't care because I have nothing to hide"
Fug. How do I even argue with that?
>>51976136
Hide the fact that you get on 4chan so yes.
>>51976136
Ask for their Facebook passwords. If they have nothing to hide from people they don't even know, surely they don't mind sharing their information with a friend.
call them retarded sheeple so content with their ever shrinking cage, kept complacent with bread and circus
>>51976136
I've been there anon. .Just ignore them and do your thing
>>51976136
"Don't have anything to hide?"
"Show me your moms pussy"
"Oh wait I wrecked it last night"
>>51976136
if you have nothing to hide, then why wear clothes?
>>51976136
They're right, you know.
You're just paranoid because you keep questionable pornography on your computer.
>>51976172
This is the the worst way to prove your position.
>>51976136
Privacy is a human right closely related to freedom of speech. It's essentially the reverse of freedom of speech: it's the freedom to listen, and to learn about new ideas, without fear of punishment. Saying you don't need privacy because you have nothing to hide is exactly like saying you don't need free speech because you have nothing to say.
>>51976236
Your mom is the worst way to prove YOUR position.
>>51976177
>>51976172
I feel like this is the easy way out and isn't really an argument.
>>51976235
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1984
>>51976136
How.
You ask them to give their facebook and google password.
Or you bring the example of US spying on EU big industries through backdoors.
If they keep arguing that if they'll use privacy when they'll send sensible data, you explain that the fact you're sending/using only then encrypted data already gives away the fact that there is something to hide, thus partially nullifying the effect of hiding something.
You ask them what will they do when the state use potentially harmless info against them.
You ask them their porn search history.
Plenty of way to argue, you're just bad at it.
Welcome to the world of normies
>pls, pls don't let this be the year of the Linux desktop
>>51976136
Just tell them you download TV and music and don't want to get caught
>>51976997
>All these strawman fallacies
it's about personal privacy, not misuse of collected data
they are right, though. who do you have to hide your information from? the government? that just sounds paranoid. your friends? you should be sharing with them already, sharing is caring.
>>51976136
>Do you lock the door when you go to the bathroom?
>Why?
>You're not doing anything illegal
>In fact, you're doing something every other person is doing ever
>So why do you lock the door?
>Privacy
>how to make an argument out of >>51976172:
>Of course you have something to hide, you just don't realise it because the consequences are so far removed from your everyday life that you don't consider them like you should, but privacy is a basic human necessity. You wouldn't want me spying on you while you take a shower, would you? But maybe that example is too far fetched ([spoiler]It's not, I actually do[/spoiler]), let's make a more realistic one. An NSAgent walks up to you right now and asks for your Facebook password, without giving a reason. Do you give it to him
>"Yes nuffin 2 hyde hurr durr"
>OK, so let's pretend I'm the agent. Give me your password.
>>51977064
This also applies to curtains.
Normal people draw their curtains at night because of how easy it is for bypassers to look in. It's not because they have something to hide, but it's because they want privacy in their own home.
Just like I want privacy when browsing the Internet. The bypassers are random people I will never meet or see again, and will most likely only see me stare at the TV, but I still feel uncomfortable knowing people can see me.
why are you so desperate to convince them of your opinion? i'm all for personal privacy, but you can't expect everyone to care, especially when most people don't even know what's happening. people who aren't that familiar with the internet won't know that they are being tracked or spied on. snowden changed nothing, it actually got worse afterwards.
>>51976136
You don't.
Normies are just like that: dumber than frogposters.
IF YOU HQVW NO PRIVACY
YOU HAVE SELFCENSOR
WHICH MEANS NO FREE SPEECH
yeah, who needs rights, anyway? fuck 'em. No one uses them, so why keep them? you'll never need them your entire life.
If you could phrase this less sarcastically but still in a way that comes across smart, you'll be golden
>>51976136
TELL THEM THERE WAS NEVER AN EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY ON THE INTERNET
>>51976997
He didn't ask for a logic argument, but how to convince normie friends.
Normies gobble down strawman fallacies like Sasha Gray gobbles down dicks.
>>51977188
meant for >>51977050
One facet of this argument that goes largely undiscussed (and is something your friend may care about) is that it is bad for an imperfect government to be able to predict all crime. Some of the greatest steps forward in human history were only made possible by people being able to hide information from their government. If the church had access to Galileo's research journals and notes we could be hundreds of years behind in our scientific growth. If the government had unlimited access to the networks of civil dissidents blacks may have never fought off Jim Crow. If King George had perfect information America would never have been a country. There is no government on earth that is perfect, and therefore there is no government on earth that can act responsibly with unlimited access to information. A government is unlikely to be able to distinguish between a negative and positive disruption to it's social order and laws, and it therefore follows that an unlimited spying program can only hinder the next great social step forward. Don't fear the surveillance state because you might have something illegal, fear the surveillance state because it is a tremendous institutional barrier to meaningful societal progress.
edit: Thanks for the gold and kind words strangers. If you have some extra time or are in need of some cash, don't be afraid to wade into the murky and exhausting world of political activism. Even if you only make a difference at the local level you can make the world a better place, and that's rad.
>>51976136
just watch this https://www.ted.com/talks/glenn_greenwald_why_privacy_matters?language=en
>>51977432
What your saying is privacy is reddit?
>>51977432
>reddit is literally the worst in terms of respecting your privacy
They even openly admit it and tell you not to use the site if you care
>>51976236
>Privacy is a human right
Stopped reading there. No its not you spoiled millennial. Nothing is a human right. You don't even technically have the right to live, you have the opportunity to do so.
Privacy in a civilized world filled with degeneracy as a human right. Fucking Kek'd.
If you got nothing to hide you got nothing to say.
>>51976136
>I don't care because I have nothing to hide
You respond with
>until you do,then what.
Every single person has something to hide. In a world where laws are seemingly arbitrary in relation to morality, where everyone is a criminal, giving the government dirt on everyone to leverage strategically is a terrible idea.
Yeah, I'm sure that congressman who has to vote in the interests of the DOJ because the NSA found out he fucked his secretary sure doesn't matter to anyone since you chucklefucks have nothing to hide.
>>51979636
Well, that's the way you feel. Humans do have rights, it's an agreed upon principle in the world we live in. Don't pretend your rights aren't important to you.
>>51980700
Checked. Also rights are a social construct. This is nature, bitch. Rights and laws are decided upon the rulers of the land. These laws evolve for better or worse over time until the government gains too much power and collapses and society restarts with a fresh infrastructure. New laws, new rights, new social norms, etc.. It's happened dozens and dozens of times in human history. It's happening now.
>>51976136
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument
>>51976136
I don't even talk to people who think like that. Well, I do, but I choose my words and don't consider them friends.
>>51980700
>Humans do have rights
Top kek @ liberals
just show them the nsa as explained for normies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVlyP4_11M
>>51976136
They have lots of things to hide.
Ask them for the size of their tits.
Nothing to fear, nothing to hide there, right?
>>51976189
Lost it.
>>51976194
this
>>51976136
>>"You should have nothing to hide if you're not doing anything wrong"
I'm pretty sure that everyone already know that I take a shit daily, doesn't mean I want anyone to -watch- me taking said shit.
I have to admit. I have a VPN I pay for but I never use it. I don't have anything to hide.
help
I GOT AN EMAIL TELLING ME TO STOP TORRENTING FROM MY UNIVERSITY INTERNET. WTF? WHAT KIND OF SHIT IS THIS? DENMARK IS SUCH A NAZI COUNTRY. What can I do to get away with stuff like this?
>>51976136
maybe if you didn't have anything to hide, you wouldn't be so stumped
>>51976136
Saying that you don't have a need for privacy because you have nothing to hide is like saying you don't have a need for freedom of speech because you have nothing to say.
Your friend is a bad American and needs to read the Constitution.
This thread is full of fascists and communists, don't listen to their Red lies.
>>51981997
looks like we have a fucko that needs to get on the ground ITT
>>51982020
Hello, Mr. Lao, how's the glorious People's Republic of China treating you? They respecting your right to be left alone?
>>51981997
pedophile detected
>>51976136
Did you also tell them you're gonna buy a tinfoil hat?
If you have nothing to hide from the government than you have a very boring life.
Also, the real answer is privacy. The same reason people don't live in transparent houses.
Besides, just because you have nothing to hide from the government doesn't mean you have nothing to hide from thieves. There's a lot of information on your computers that can be used to impersonate you and steal your money.
Your imaginary friends are retards.
>>51982062
Go take a screenshot of your browser history.
Post it here.
Then also leave pictures of your family. And your friends. Tell me an exact account of everything you ate, everywhere you went, and everything you did in the past four months.
You have nothing to hide. Get to it.
>>51976136
> How do I argue with, "I have nothing to hide."
You can't.
>>51980748
The US was founded upon the principle that people are entitled to certain unalienable rights, given by the creator, not the government. Tge idea that the government bestows rights to the people is the very British ideal that we rebelled against.
>>51977084
but then they'll just say that the NSA agent wouldn't just randomly ask for your password and wouldn't abuse it
and they won't believe you when you say they would
they will think that the NSA agent is a fundamentally different case than you just asking for their password no matter what you say
>>51978482
Reddit allows for posting behind VPN and Tor. How could they possibly be worse than this site which explicitly bans posting behind a proxy? Take 30 seconds everytime you go to reddit and create a new account: poof you're privacy is protected.
>>51982096
fugggg :^)
>>51976136
Well he's right if you actually have nothing to hide other than your porn, but are you really that unimportant?
If you have any sort of business dealing with confidential work such as NDAs with clients, trade secrets/unpublished IP or other sensitive information you should be encrypting everything because as we all know NSA cares more about stealing IP (hence all the activity in Germany) than catching terrorists.
>>51976136
>Fug. How do I even argue with that?
Ask them for their Facebook password. If they refuse, ask them what they're hiding...
Then ask them for their bank password, credit card numbers, etc, etc... They'll soon get the message.
>>51980748
Greetings, King George III. Remind me again, what was that Declaration thing those uppity colonists wrote? Something about being "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights"?
It's a funny kind of peasant who believes he's a free man with rights that can't be taken away by a despotic government, don't you agree, your Grace?
In all seriousness, people like you need to learn the difference between rights and privileges. Rights are innate. Privileges are social constructs.
And your right to privacy is a right, not a privilege.
Because of this, it is none of your business if I want to hide what's on my computer even if nothing is there simply because it's my property, and I don't want you invading my privacy.
Similarly, if you don't care about your own privacy, you're free to let Google, the government, Microsoft, and everyone else under the sun to endlessly spy on your every keystroke. But just because you don't care about the former does not mean everyone should be subjected to the latter.
You nerds need to into the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. Privacy is a human right. It cannot and will not be taken away.
>>51982254
>Then ask them for their bank password, credit card numbers, etc, etc... They'll soon get the message.
No they fucking won't. They'll just think that the NSA will have good intentions "unlike you" and that they wouldn't touch their money.
>>51982254
Do you truly believe this pile of horseshit? Giving your password to a random person or even a friend is not private. Massive data sifting computers that see your search terms and shit is nothing in any way like giving your password to a human.
You people seem to be under the impression that at least one of not multiple people see all or any of your data. You're an idiot to believe the government has the man power to personally view ~16 hours of activity a day per person of data.
Not to mention these so called privacy invading workers have an obligation to make no changes to your account and won't spend your money or harm your life in any way unless you get theoretically flagged for terrorism.
You libtards can never make a good argument.
>>51979636
This might be the most retarded post I've ever seen on 4chan
>>51982296
Learn the difference between a right and privilege, you may take your own advice. Nobody here is on /pol/. The commenter mentioned a human right, which does not exist in nature. You are born and given the opportunity, no, the privilege of being alive. You do not have the right to privacy, food, shelter or anything else just because you are alive in a first world country that hands shit to people at the cost of collected data for ads.
You have no fucking rights and if you think you do then I challenge you to go to any other place besides the Americas or most countries in Europe. Let me know how many rights they gave you when you get back senpai
>>51982309
The manpower doesn't matter. What the government shouldn't have is the ability to breach the privacy of its citizens without due process and a warrant. That kind of power, while not used for evil today, could be used by evil men tomorrow to instill a tyrannical regime which is why we have the Fourth and Second Amendments in our Constitution.
READ THE CONSTITUTION.
>libtards
What on Earth makes you think the left wing values privacy? The left are the ones calling for restrictions on our rights and freedoms in this country. You have no idea what you're talking about. Stick to computers, nerd.
>>51982308
>. They'll just think that the NSA will have good intentions
Point out the NSA is staffed by individuals, just like me... Then point to the whistle blowers who have documented how agents have accessed peoples private photos and swapped people's nudes... etc, etc...
>>51982395
>you have no right to privacy in America
>to prove it you should go to Saudi Arabia
ok...
>>51982395
Jesus, dude, you really don't get it, do you? The difference between our government and other governments is that here the government was built around the rights of the people. Ours is the only government that fundamentally must respect our human rights. Our government was built to respect our rights to speak our minds, peaceably assemble, defend ourselves and our freedoms from would-be despots (like you), and more.
And you have such a hard-on for nature. Tell me, do governments exist in nature? No, they don't. According to your woodland logic, that must mean that governments don't exist.
Plus the fact that you tried to list food and shelter as rights simply proves further that you have absolutely no clue what you're on about. I suggest you stop digging this hole for yourself and instead read the Constitution already. Gee, I wonder where I've heard that before.
Again, the fact that you don't care when people trample all over your right to privacy does not mean that your right to privacy does not exist. That's like saying that because you don't own a gun, nobody is allowed to own a gun. What you're saying does not make any sense.
>>51982499
But they will still not care, they still think the government isn't completely corrupted to absolute shit and will label you a tinfoilist no matter how many case studies you point out to them.
>>51982309
Idiot.
Or, useful dupe.
The surveillance agencies collect information, en masse. Everyone is a "person of interest", including you. You will only be personally targeted if you draw attention to yourself. They can then access their own historical archive of data on you, in addition to any new stuff yu're getting into...
Idiot.
>>51982534
Revolution 2.0 when?
We can keep it /g/ related by installing a robot executive who adheres strictly to the constitution alone in its decision-making.
>>51982520
You're the one who still doesn't get it. All of these other places that don't have rights to privacy enacted are proof that your right to privacy is a privilege of America. Not a right. You have the right to nothing.
Just because America's constitution gives us the 'right' to privacy IF we reside in America doesn't mean it's a creator given human right. Just because Saudi Arabia "invades my privacy" doesn't mean they're trampling on my rights, it means their government isn't giving me the privilege to privacy.
Just because America does something does not make it universal. I'm not saying nobody should have privacy. Privacy is a good thing. But it's not a human fucking right by any sense of the word and the Constitution does not define nature or natural rights. It's just the law of the land and nothing more. It also only matters as long as you are in that said land and nowhere else.
>>51982543
>Getting mad that you got caught doing illegal things.
Kek'd.
>>51982580
I'm not that guy, but you just sound like some highschool contrarian, senpai.
>>51976172
Do this but play the evil hand.
>okay so you don't mind if I secretly hack you and your accounts
>it's not like you have nothing sensitive to hide right?
>>51982580
>countries don't have rights
>the constitution gives rights
Do you get paid to miss the point?
The Constitution was what the founders used to identify what our human rights ARE for the government so it could be properly kept in its rightful scope. NO GOVERNMENT BESTOWS RIGHTS. Tyrannical governments are oppressive when they deny the existence of rights as you are doing right now.
I "get it" when you speak. I get that you're an ignorant useful idiot who would trade every last bit of freedom he has because his government told him it isn't real. People like you are the reason countries like Saudi Arabia get away with pretending citizens have no rights in the first place. They do have rights. Their rights are being restricted by tyrants who need to be deposed by their people. You have a lot of reading to do. I suggest starting with the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, then moving on to Frederic Bastiat's "The Law". Don't worry, the words aren't too hard for you to read.
>>51982592
>illegal
It doesn't have to be "illegal".
Imagined if a left wing Government is voted into power; and you're on record as a poster on /pol/: a hotbed of right wing agitation. Your position as a manager/teacher/public office holder, etc (any position of responsibility and influence) will be questioned, you could find yourself out of a job.
And, that's just for starters.
Once you give power to these government agencies, you don't know where it will lead.
Pic related.
>>51982709
You're still being retarded, though. That's the issue.
You missed the part where rights don't exist. Saudi Arabia isn't restricted rights, it's refusing to give rights. 2 humans in the wild and only one rabbit, somebody is going to hurt the other or tie them up if they have CIVILITY in order to eat and not starve.
Rights are not God given or given by nature. They are given by civilized governments. Something you still don't understand.
Again, America and many other places give their people's many rights including the right to privacy which is a good thing.
But say it with me. ONE COUNTRIES CHOICES DO NOT DEFINE WHAT IS GIVEN TO A HUMAN BY NATURE. Privacy is not given to you by nature. It's given to you by your government.
I'm not arguing your precious constitution. I'm arguing what you think the Constitution was made for. It was made so that the people's of America had certain unalienable rights while in America. It was never mentioned or said that every single human on the planet forever before and after America's rise and fall would these rights remain because nature demands it.
>>51982709
>Bastiat
"Natural law" is nonsense on stilts.
>>51976136
"Well, I don't have anything to hide, but I'm a big believer in both physical freedom and freedom online. I personally think that companies shouldn't have access to my data."
Told my girlfriend this and she was genuinely interested.
>"Anon, what's Lie-nux or Linnucks?"
>"Is it a strong belief of yours?"
>>51976136
Have you ever lied about anything ever?
>yes
What information did you hide with that lie?
>>51982308
Tell them there are literally millions of cyber criminals that try to steal this information for profit. Which is why online transactions are encrypted.
Thieves have bad intentions by definition
>>51982802
"We the People, of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, ensure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common Defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
>SECURE the blessings of liberty
Not "grant", not "allow", not "bestow".
"Secure." You claim the Constitution "gives" rights to Americans. It does no such thing. It doesn't claim to do so. If you actually would READ it, you'd understand. But you don't. You're content with your nihilistic interpretation of life which leads you to the Godless conclusion that you are nothing more than an animal with no rights and no freedoms.
The rights of Americans are the rights of every man, and if their governments do not recognize their right to privacy or any other right, then that government is illegitimate and needs to be overthrown to establish a just, moral, and free society. I pity you and everyone who agrees with you.
And OP, if you're still here and if you haven't figured it out by now, "I have a right to privacy" is the correct answer to your question.
>>51982950
Dude no. You're wrong and you just can't see that. Too egotistical about muh freedoms. If you truly believe that you're anything more than a really smart and good looking monkey than you're retarded. More so than the average monkey.
You are an animal born into a first world country that Gives you many different rights. Had we never gotten to the point to form governments, there would be a lot of rights you have now that you wouldn't have then.
Were are the rights to live for cows? What about dogs and cats that have been taken from the wild for thousands of years and domesticated because we like to touch them? Why do we get to eat cows and grind their children up for a quick meal? What Right do you have to do that to them because they can't speak or make tools? Had your genius ancestors never made tools you'd be a fucking derp right now picking fleas off your mother's back and eating them.
Your rights and safe living are the privilege and opportunity given to you by your parents and the government you live under.
This is fact regardless of what you want to see it as. No piece of paper changes the FACT that as nothing more than a mammal in the wild, you have nothing but opportunity. Everything you have is because of your countries generosity and resources. Whether some are good and some are bad or whether your country is attempting to alienate the rights it once offered is another story that isn't being discussed.
>>51976136
Daily reminder
>>51982149
>but then they'll just say that the NSA agent wouldn't just randomly ask for your password
If they really just wanted to access your facebook information they don't even need to ask you, they can just inquire it from facebook.
If they want the password they can probably get the hash from facebook as well.
>and wouldn't abuse it
that authorities do not mistreat access to personal information has been repeately proven a falsity: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/21/us/politics/edward-snowden-at-nsa-sexually-explicit-photos-often-shared.html?_r=0
>they will think that the NSA agent is a fundamentally different case than you just asking for their password no matter what you say
you asking for their password should be the analogy that if some person who your friend doesn't even know can access private data, why shouldn't you?
What's the best VPN for torrenting?
>>51976136
You don't argue with that. Trying to push people into caring as much about privacy as you puts you on the same level as zealot vegans and freetards.
"If I don't do anything wrong, they don't have the right to watch me."
>>51976172
>>51983289
They still won't care because it doesn't affect them directly or immediately, and even if it did they'll just accept it because it's "too much werk" to migrate to a secure system but in reality they still don't care.
>>51976136
>Tell my friends I'm going to start taking more steps to ensure my privacy (VPN, downgrading from Windows BotNet)
No you didn't.
>"I don't care because I have nothing to hide!"
Well fine, go ahead. Just you know, forget that because you have nothing to hide means you don't have a basic right to privacy.
>>51982624
I assume its 'Playing Devil's Advocate'
>>51983047
Your contrarian is really showing
>>51976136
"I don't care because I have nothing to hide". Same logic that the Nazi party used. The jews learned this lesson well. Unfortunately, they are smarter than fuck and seem to be bent on using this logic to brainwash this generation. Good luck.
>51976136
>why don't you poop with the door open? do you poop upside down or something?
>why are your house walls opaque? are you making bombs in there?
>why do you have a lock screen gesture/code on your phone if only you use it? do you store cp in there?
this is what i use, the pooping with closed doors never fails, after all everyone poops the same way, fags/normies shut up instantly
All I know is these jewish commies keep trying to take away my freedom. But, well fuck it guys.
>>51976136
You're basically asking them to delete their Facebook profiles, Linkedin etc which is how people communicate and get jobs these days.
A VPN and an OS change won't do anything for normies.
They won't be mad about it either because chances are they're upper-middle class people who attend charity balls and dinners with friends. They've already sold their souls to live the good life to start with, so they trust their governments 200% regardless of what's happening in the streets.
If their excuse is literally "i have nothing to hide" instead of "well it sucks but what can we actually do about it", you're talking to a full on shill.
"Let's say you have a friend who's a closeted homosexual; you're the only other person who knows. He wants to come out, but he's still living with his parents and he's afraid of what they'll do. So he's waiting until he can move out to reveal himself. He's not doing anything wrong, and you don't think he's doing anything wrong, but nevertheless, would you tell his parents or anyone else?"
Good analogy?
"OK then, take off all your cloths right now you cunt what are you trying to hide"
>>51979636
>You don't even technically have the right to live,
Come and take it from me then you pasty neckbeard fuck.
>>51983115
This.
>>51979636
> Manic depression detected.
Seek professional help brah.
>>51976136
It's a matter of principles,of control,of submission.
>say I want privacy
>tell everybody what I'm doing
>>51993935
They were complaining about me not using Facebook anymore. I figured I would go into detail.
>>51976136
Tell them to give you their credit card details if they have nothing to hide. The botnets also collect that. Also ask to look through their photos if they have nothing to hide. Credit card details and their photos might be public property after some leak some day anyway. Also ssn
Saying you're OK with the NSA spying on you because you've nothing to hide is like saying you're fine with removing the first amendment because you've nothing to say.
Like many people, both young and old, your friends are morons.
>>51994718
>having friends who complain when you don't use facebook
>>51976136
>I have nothing to hide
So your friend doesn't even have a bank account?
>>51976136
Everyone has something to hide. It depends on who's looking
>>51976136
Do you have curtains on your house? Why, if you've got nothing to hide?
Give me your wallet and I'll scan everything and put it on the net? Why not if you've got nothing to hide?
>>51976136
Both the government and the citizens are bound by social contract. There's this social contract known as privacy, which in a perfect world is inviolable. It's not about hiding or not hiding something from the gov.
>b-but the terrists
The terrorists threats are overestimated. Each year, more Murricans are killed by the cops than by the terrorists (this includes both Islamists and angry white guys with guns). Thus it's not a reason for the government to renege on social contracts.
>>51977064
I don't lock the door, but I damnwell close it to keep the smell isolated to that room alone.
>>51995394
>thinking online banking is the only way to bank
Were you people born after 2000?
>>51976136
>when you do something, are YOU really doing it?
>when you decide something its really YOUR choice
>its your life, actually YOURS?
its the same way of thinking, you cant argue with this either.
best way to make em feel bad is to touching their wallets, tell shit about how they make money out of him for being "unprotected"
>>51981791
VPN obviously.
Google before posting here, seriously.
i've been listening to podcasts lately and the nerdist had an episode with alex winters. in it, they talk about this argument and totally dismantle it without being retarded autistic faggots about it. i suggest you listen to their conversation and learn from it
http://nerdist.com/nerdist-podcast-alex-winter-returns/
>>51976136
To all those ppl saying that it isnt a right but a privilege.
Since it isnt a right, it makes sense that you fight harder to protect yourself surely?
If it was a right (whether it is being breached or not) you would have the protection to do what you wish
In proving it isnt a right, you answer OPs question - You have everything to hide, because at the end of the day you are the only one protecting your own data.
There is a reason my pin code isnt written on the back of my card but deep in my head - because i am the only one responsible for protecting myself.
Survival of the fittest - if they dont see the point, let them die out.
>>51976136
>downgrading frown windows
>downgrading
>implying
>>51979636
>hurr durr mah dahjennerawsee
>>>/pol/
