> Chromebooks
Did anyone here fall for this meme?
>>51944087
Yes, they're awful. Don't buy one. Now go back to /b/.
>>51944087
I am glad I did. 140 quid Toshiba Chromebook 2 with better screen than MBA. I swapped the SSD and am running on loonix since then.
10/10, best piece of hw
i've got one and use it everyday for all web based stuff which is a large amount of what i use a computer for. it's portable and light. it does what it intends to do and i've got another pc for anything else anyway.
I've got a Toshiba Chromebook 2 (2015), I like it a lot. I've still got my old laptop with Windows and Linux for certain thing, but most of the time I'm using my Chromebook. Chrome OS is a really good UI.
is there a decent SSH client for chromebooks?
>>51944120
>Toshiba Chromebook 2
How did you manage to swap the SSD, m8? I've just googled the possibility of doing this and this kek website omchrome.com. says it's impossible. I run Ubuntu MATE on an x220 right now, but I really like the idea of getting a chromebook, but only if one could get at least a 64gb SSD, preferrably a 128gb one in there, so I can install a full Linux install on there and keep my important files for uni/work there. I really don't like the idea of just using GDrive for everything.
>>51944159
It's called crouton and ubuntu
>>51944189
You can't do it with pre 2015. The newest model doesn't have a protection so all you do is reflash your bios, slap in the ssd and reinstal to w/e you want.
Also I am working on getting win10 to work. Currently it does but the battery dies like in 4 hours lel.
>>51944159
Yes there's one developed by Google.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/secure-shell/pnhechapfaindjhompbnflcldabbghjo
>>51944087
Asus C201 + TL-WN722 + libreboot + linux-libre + debian = blobless heaven.
Either that or 2006 era Thinkpads.. How the mighty have fallen.
i like my free cr-48 that i installed windows 7 on
really annoyed that I couldn't stay awake for black friday/didn't know that best buy was selling their $99 CB2 chromebook on their website all of thanksgiving and BF. that would have been a great thing to carry around
>>51945480
Oh man. That's a shame. No CB on Black Friday in UK though this year. Or at least not any discounts that would actually make me buy em.
Sometimes I wish I was in the US.
>>51945480
I got that and put linux on it and it works pretty well. If it doesn't break too soon it'll have been worth it.
Poorfags will try to justify it. Don't fall for it
bunpo
>>51946712
Funny part is that even though you go with ubuntu you really are using google kernel. I think they slightly modified xorg too for the purpose of chromeos. It's a shame you can't go with those xorgs with crouton.
>>51944087
If you bought one of these for anyone but your mom or dad as a present then you fucked up lads.
>>51944087
got the CR-48 free through the program they had going and I wasn't impressed.
thinking of buying one of these.. the screen on them suck though :(
>>51948251
I migrated from thinkpad t430 to toshiba chromebook 2 because of how sucky the screen was. You literally spend N hours in front of the screen, it's one of the most important things.
I wouldn't go for it.
Meme?
Hardly.
1.8 ghz Celeron w/Bay Trail that is on par with i7s of similar clocks, 4GB, 14" IPS monitor.
ChromeOS is super handy for browsing the web and interacting with the gapps stack, Ctrl Shift Alt F2 has me instantly in my Lubuntu session.
All for under $300.
Get rekt buddy.
Yup. C720 on Arch. Still feels good. Thing never actually ran ChromeOS.
HP Chromebook 14 and I love it.
I did. Toshiba Chromebook, could for a fast as fuck internet browser but that's about it.
Bought a Macbook Pro a few months later. Now my Chromebook gathers dust.
>>51948377
Sounds like shit.
I did, and its great.
Anything chromeOS cant do, my ubuntu chroot can do. Its lightweight, its fast, its pleasant to use and the chromebook itself is quiet and cool all the time.
>9 hour battery life
>2gb of ram
>2.6ghz celeron
>16gb SSD
>1.5tb of google drive storage free with purchase
>never gets hot
>no HDD or fan to make any noise
>simply built and sturdy
>when it fucks up, although rarely, it reboots itself with 4-6 seconds
>>51948561
Forgot to mention, Acer CB3-111, got it for 99$ on black friday.
Even then theyre normally only 150-180$
>>51944120
> better screen than MBA
That's not hard to do since the MBA is only offered with a shitty low-resolution TN screen.
My brother has the same Chromebook as you though, he's quite happy with it. I even helped him set up Crouton so he could use Gimp when he needs to. They're not bad little machines as long as they meet your needs.
I will never use one because I'm concerned about Google and I don't want to give them any of my money.
>>51948251
Avoid, that looks like generic consumer-grade shit
I'm a traveling janitor and 90% of schools I service have chrome books
>>51944087
You have no idea how nice these are for business (you'd see if you had a job). They require NO support. They Literally just work out of the box. No Malware, bloatware or any other shitty ware. They get on the web just fine which fits the need of like 90% of everything you need to do. They are incredibly fast and Grandma can get online with ease and no worry.
These things do EXACTLY what they say they'll do and work very well. For clients that use nothing but web applications for their job swear by these things. Thank you based google for creating such a practical device.
>>51944159
Secure Shell, its in the chrome web store
or crosh alone has an SSH client built in
>>51949315
crosh doesnt, the regular shell does
>>51949462
Oh shit! chromeOS has a shell?
>>51948377
Lubuntu session? Explain.
>>51948752
Thank you Google overloads.
>>51949956
As long as you go with intel cpu/x86_x64 architecture all you have to do to run Ubuntu on ANY given chromebook is a single bash script. It's called crouton.
More or less it shares chromeos kernel and literally runs ubuntu session on the same runtime. It's great because it even goes as far as battery saving running great, camera/audio working out of the box. Also it's a normal ubuntu you know from any other laptop.
>>51949917
yup
No, I already fell for the netbook meme and gave up on laptops once I realized my smartphone could do mostly everything and my desktop can do everything else.
>>51948251
The signature of being poor?
Chromebooks are here to stay.
They're absolutely killing it in the education market, and you see them everywhere on college campuses and in the work force in some companies.
Google is going to be merging Android and Chrome OS in the future, so just imagine what will be possible at that point.
>>51950113
In unrelated news google has launched a new company manufacturing and selling designer glasses.
>>51950113
>and you see them everywhere on college campuses
never seen one IRL desu
murrican thing?
>>51950185
Might be, I'm an americlap.
>>51948251
Get a Pixel.
chromebooks are gud
solid, quick, aesthetic little linux ssh + shitposting machines
obv not a desktop replacement, but a gr8 complementary mobile machine
>>51944087
Stop being so autistic. Not everyone needs to have an i7 and a GTX970. My mom has a Chromebook, it serves her needs perfectly. All she does is send email and do occasional shopping. Chromebooks are ideal for light duty stuff like that.
Won one of these at a programming competition. They're alright I guess. They weren't joking when they said all you can do is browse the web though
>>51944087
bought a 13 inch chromebook for $200 from amazon last thanksgiving. like thanksgiving 2014.
best laptop ive ever owned. when i first had it, 20 hour battery life when working in shell full screen with white text black background
obviously installed linux on it. used it for all kinds of programming, c++, bash/shell, java. installed php, nginx and nodejs on it, as well as mysql.
it can run linux like any other machine, but weighs only like 3 pounds and gets shitton of battery life
win in my book
ill buy another too when mine croaks.
only downside is shitty construction, all plastic, with a mouse that sometimes doesn't respond correctly. but rarely happens. hey, for $200, it's stellar.
>>51944227
hmm... i have this installed, i should look into it more. might be possible to just use that for linux. i can do everything in command line anyways. don't need a gui, although it's really nice to have access to gedit. gedit is useful for quick and dirty copy and paste; with vim i have to exit insert mode, type :set paste, and then paste back in and wq. gedit is just "$ gedit; CNTRL-v, CNTRL-s, alt-f4 / cntrl-q"
>>51949917
yeah, crosh, and in developer mode you get the regular user and root aswell
>>51949956
crouton, you download a file and enter one bash command and it makes a vm/ hybrid of the debian based distro of your choice, you can actually use other distros aswell its just that it takes much longer than one command
>>51950113
its because theyre significantly cheaper than schools buying discounted macbooks from apple, they have "child safe" modes and such aswell
>>51950271
install crouton, or enable developer mode, then you can use other linux stuff on it, i have wine within chromeOS that i use for photoshop
I have one of the HP Chromebook 11's from 2013. It was great for about 18 months but ChromeOS kept getting updated and each updated caused it to slow down more and more. It's almost unusable at the moment when more than 4 tabs open. I've enabled the swap partition (added 2GB swap) but that made minimal impact. Disappointing really because ChromeOS is a nice OS for just browsing the web.
Are they any good for programming?
>>51952827
yep
I almost did. Then I chose to fall for the Thinkpad meme instead.
>>51948251
Don't buy acer shit, I learned this the hard way.
>>51949956
A few have touched on it:
Crouton and launch it. There isn't a true Lubuntu crouton build yet, but the lxde-desktop option installs all the Lubuntu packages plus a handful of extra ones, and you have to run a few extra commands initially to use the synaptic package manager.
>>51952827
As long as you're not writing for .NET it's fine.
I like it because I either run in the CodeEnvy VM to do oddball stuff or if I'm just messing around, or I just tab over into the Linux session and I've got Eclipse (and Netbeans) installed.
You can apt-get Eclipse 3.8 if you're in a hurry, but I actually find that Mars (have to download the tar and install) actually runs better.
>>51950185
I can say at least here at my uni (American), there are a significant amount of Chromebooks now. Entire campus, and most of the surrounding town, is blanketed in college-run 200mb/s WiFi. Literally the perfect environment for one
>>51944087
I got a Dell 13" i3 8gb ram Chromebook.
> Threw a 256gb m.2 drive in it.
> patched the bios
> hello Debian Testing
Easily the best laptop I've ever owned at this point.
>>51944087
>meme
if a good quality, low cost, lightweight linux machine is a meme, then I'm a bigger fan of memes than I originally thought
>>51953540
but it's got a decent CPU, Gigabit ethernet, 500GB which can be replaced with SSD,hdmi, AC wifi.. good trackpad and keyboard
only con is shitty screen
>>51952827
caret
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/caret/fljalecfjciodhpcledpamjachpmelml?hl=en
>open source
>70+ different languages
>50+ themes
>customizable themes
>can save in just about any format on earth
>fucking beautiful
>straightforward GUI and use, no bullshit in the menus
>>51948561
How'd you do that with the chromebook
>>51954981
This, caret is better at html than anything else I've used
>>51950236
This desu. I got my mom a Chromebook. I never have to do any tech support. all she uses is Facebook and Yahoo mail.
Will never own one that`s for sure
you might as well get an android tablet and get twice more functionality
>>51955651
This is bad advice, Android just isn't ready for tablets
13inch at least Chromebook for 200$
Go
>>51950038
I did it on my ARM Samsung Series 3. But then my fatass friend sat on it and broke the screen.
So I got an Acer c720 and did it again. Having my Downloads folder shared between the sessions is great.
>>51955263
chromebrew
>>51955810
see if you can get a refurb 1080p toshiba
>>51955826
Not him but what dose chromebrew have to do with the screenfetch and other shit.
>>51955858
yep. it's your package manager
It's awful unless you literally webbrowse only all day.
If you want to do anything remotely demanding of power you have to ssh into a dedicated server.
If you want storage to have to pay for cloud bullshit
it's awful, designed to make you waste more money when they could just as easily design the hardware with better hardware support.
>>51955909
But how do you install screenfetch from it, I don't see how you telling him chromebrew helped him lol.
>>51955931
because you have to install it
>>51955931
>how does installing a package manager help you install packages lol
>>51955957
He asked how he did it. Not what he may have used
>>51955977
too bad you can't do it if you don't have it first, so you can read the fucking man page for chromebrew
>>51955852
Is the 1080 version really worth it? I don't mind lower resolution screen for a little more battery life.but if 2gb RAM is truly a hindrance I'd consider shelling out extra for the 4gb 1080 version
>>51955990
>>51955990
Isn't chromebrew already limited as fuck though?
>>51956013
yeah. even though ChromeOS is linux, it's kernel is pretty locked down. So it's hard to make a good package manager for it. It's all there is though.
>>51948251
Holy fuck. Is this the US site? That's a good deal. Buy a SSD for like $100 and you got a pretty good, fast little machine.
>>51944087
yeah, I got one of the CR-whatevers early on. Good hardware for the price although I wasn't able to get by with just a browser so it ran debian most of the time.
Unfortunately too low-end to really compete with same-era MBPs, if they had just spent a little more on keyboards and screens I would have happily paid for the better hardware but as it stands chromebooks are really better suited as something you pawn off on your parents or whatever.
>>51956053
It's a based shitposting machine
>>51955814
kekked
>>51956082
I still use it though. I keep it hooked up to my TV through HDMI and use it as a dedicated Netflix/YouTube/Porn/Research machine
>>51956041
seems like you've never used acer products. Back in the early 2000s they made some good monitors but have since then transformed into really low-end shit that cuts every corner imaginable. In general they are best avoided unless you have some scheme that involves a lot of cheap-as-shit hardware (similar position to dell).
>>51956128
Consumer tier machines aren't bad if you don't use them for a specific purpose.
>>51944087
I wanted a small-but-not-tiny laptop (11.6" or so) for occasional travel, good battery life, at a decent price (spent 180$), and preferably something that was not running Windows out of the box. Chromebook nailed every one of those requirements.
I don't give a shit about them being owned by Google botnet because I'm not an autistic faggot.
I got one for rough travel because at $100 I'll barely care if it breaks, and if it doesn't break it's basically as functional as a "real" laptop with linux.
a friend of mine bought one of these without asking and is wondering if i can set up a way for him to remote from his chrome book up stairs to his desktop downstairs
is there any way to get RDP or something like it to work on the chrome OS?
>>51956159
Well what are you using it for? If you're typing on the thing (what use case doesn't involve typing?)) then you ought to spend some money on the keyboard at least. Wether or not acer will totally fuck you on a keyboard varies model to model (I had an acer laptop with a passable keyboard that lasted for years and another where keys literally came off the board within a week of getting the thing) but I don't know how to tell the difference and I suspect nobody does until they use the thing. Buying at median consumer grade is fine but acer substantially undershoots that on basically everything until you get to their high end stuff that end up being vaguely exotic but generally useless..
Got one for $99 on black friday.
Got Xubuntu running concurrently with chrome os, crouton sets it up so you can switch back and forth without rebooting, with the download folder shared.
It's great for web, notes, coding, etc. No problems there. You aren't going to game on it but it handles everything I've thrown at it so far.
Definitely a must to get linux on it in some form, otherwise you are restriceted to the shit apps on the chrome web store.
So far, the only con I've discovered is that the webcam is complete dogshit, if that's important to you.
Can confirm 9 hours battery under active use, light as fuck.
>>51956251
The keys are beveled, so they won't fall out. If anything, they could get stuck, but it would still be usable.
>>51956220
You can install SecureShell from the Chrome Web Store, and use it.
>>51955810
toshiba CB35-A3120
180-200$, 13.3 inch screen
>>51955263
describe, screenfetch? the windows, the colors, the full terminal?
>>51955858
>>51955931
chromebrew has nothing to do with screenfetch, i did a manual install of screenfetch, though i also have chromebrew for the purpose of tmux, vim and htop
>>51955912
>pay for cloud shit
this 100$ acer cb3 came with 1.5tb of google drive space for 5 years for free
>>51956128
acer found one thing its good at, chromebooks, the cb3 and c720 are god tier
>>51956287
>>51956251
And I'm talking about the acer chromebook here
>>51956273
What model? My c720 has 9 hour battery life.
>>51954648
Same, this thing is fantastic. The only thing I really miss from my old laptop are pgup/pgdn/home/del buttons, but oh well.
Installed Gallium on mine for those sweet chromeos trackpad drivers. Everything (including bios patching, used that one script) just werked.
>>51956251
I use it for shitposting, social media, taking notes, and shit like that. The keys are fine, and actually feel better than a macbook's, even though they look nearly the same
>>51956316
the 99$ chromebook on black friday was the acer cb3, this one >>51948561
I did and I love mine, they're good as long as you know their limitations, I wouldn't want to own one as an only computer
but knowing that I would still spend 95% of my time on my desktop running windows, I use it for what it is, a cheap facebook/shitposting machine
perfect for laying in bed to look at random shit on the internet before you go to bed or when you wake up
weighs almost nothing, tiny footprint so great to travel with, 12-13 hour battery life means I rarely even bring my charger when I go on a weekend trip
most everything on the net is compatible with chrome
no hard drive space but I never save anything on it anyway
no need for word, excel, paint, etc cause I just use my desktop
>>51956290
>acer found one thing its good at, chromebooks
>>51956304
>And I'm talking about the acer chromebook here
Yeah, I mean if you've used the thing and it works well then great, I'm just saying I wouldn't buy the thing without trusted review.
>>51956338
>12-13 hour battery life means I rarely even bring my charger when I go on a weekend trip
The battery life really is impressive. Not sure how they get it. I imagine it's going to get worse with every successive generation since it's easy to pack in new features but hard to draw out battery life.
>>51944087
Ran fucking crouton on it and it was godly while I was in school. Enabled swap space and my chromebook only had an ARM processor. Even then I boosted swap and put arch on it. Running dual OS with keyswitch to get to the other OS....godly. @ >$200.
>>51956128
Yeah, I actually haven't, I just looked at the specs. How bad can it be, though? I have a $200 Asus here (X205TA) and it's pretty damn solid, even though it's completely plastic, and it has comparable specs (minus 2gb and replaceable drive).
Is Acer still as bad as they were in the early 2010's?
Also, my experience with Dell has been pretty damn good.
>>51956460
Battery life with these small 11 inch laptops is usually very good. Even with Windows, Asus squeezed out 11 hours on my laptop. It takes a special type of retarded OEM to screw it upwith these Intel chips.
About features, unless Google decides to literally pack android or something similar to have android apps run, you should be fine.
>>51956338
>perfect for laying in bed to look at random shit on the internet before you go to bed
This is what I use it for, being fanless means I have no qualms about using it on top of a blanket or whatever.
>>51957313
You'll be able to use the Google Play Store soon, I believe. But I can't remember where I read it.
>>51957345
>Google play store
That means Google play services. Welp, say good bye to your battery life.
>>51957417
I don't think it's going to be mandatory to use it though. You might have to install it from the Chrome Web Store.
Worked today in my chromebook using the secure shell addon
There's one huge problem
CONTROL + N, which is Vim's auto-complete, instead makes a new chrome window (since secure shell is running in chrome)
Is there a way around this?
>>51952827
I spent a few hours today writing up some server side code for a friend's project, and then used git (over command line obviously) to fork his repo, push my changes and merge it back to his master
>>51958389
Make sure you run secure shell as a window instead of in a tab. This allows more of the key combinations to be forwarded to the client.
>>51958389
have you tried going into the keyboard settings and disabling ctrl?
I was able to use the autocomplete within vim with the ctrl key disabled in the settings.
Its just Settings > Keyboard Settings > Click Ctrl > "Disable"
>>51958471
I see. I was running it as a tab. I'll try running it as a window next time
>>51958496
Thanks for the tip.
For the last year I've been using my chromebook with a crouton linux install, but recently some driver or something went out of date and I couldn't fix it after 3 days of trouble, so I just backed it to a tar file and "power washed" the chromebook.
Went and installed a new chroot but it's shit. Can't remember / figure out how to get the search key to actually bring up the omni query thing, and I hate unity, so I tried out plain old ssh.
Now what would be killer is if I could get a linux command line that's not SSH; earlier today while working over ssh I occasionally got noticeable lag while editing text; it'd be better to work locally.
>>51958521
you can use other enviornments other than unity, just do -t xfce and it installs with xfce, same with gnome, kde and i think you can even do cde and a few others
I installed Ubuntu on my C720, installed wine and ran WOW off an external HDD.
It sucked but it worked.
They are kick ass little pieces of hardware and can be turned into the best value linux ultrabook you could hope for. As long as you can handle the chromeOS keyboard but it's no biggie.
>>51958572
is there an install option that gets the keyboard working automatically (sound), and gets the search functionality on the search key as well?
>>51956328
I mapped those keys to alt-up and alt-down with xmodmap. I'll see if I can find the config, away from comp right now
>>51958584
i think those are native to chromeOS, not many other distros have support for that button and the function key actions
you could probably set up a custom keybinding within your distro of choice to where you press function keys to get volume/brightness settings, and to be able to use the search button to open a search box
try sh ~/Downloads/crouton -t list, to see the list of options when making a chroot
>>51956328
Do tell more about the Gallium, please. I don't know anything about it.
>>51958645
Its built on xubuntu, so you get apt right away, instead of having to fiddle with either chrombrew or a manual install of portage.
Its designed to be much more efficient than chromeOS, mainly by keeping the browser from always running in the background, like it does on ChromeOS. The downside to this is that starting the browser takes fucking forever, and it really only saves about 100mb of ram. Which isnt going to be an issue on a chromebook.
https://galliumos.org/wiki/index.php?title=GalliumOS_Wiki
>>51944087
My mom has like 5 chromebooks since she breaks laptops all the time
lel the Acer chromebooks for $99 sold out on newegg's shell shocker deal.
>>51958838
oh fuck me, i tried to install GalliumOS after looking that shit up for >>51958645 and it said "failure, highly likely" i thought "whats the worst that can happen?"
Well really not that much, i lost 10 minutes of my time, and had to powerwash. The issue however is that im now missing 5gb of space and i have no idea where the fuck it went, i dont know how to fix that partition that chrx made.
Pls help
>>51959001
also my bios terminal is now all kinds of fucky
how bad did i mess up /g/
School fell for the meme and spend $150k+ on chromebooks to get all the students on Google's botnet
>>51959037
>:l
>>51948561
> 9 hour battery life
anon tell me more. I too want a meme dev chromebook that lasts forever. what do you do to it for that kind of battery?
>>51959140
nothing much, im not always on full brightness, usually on 60-70%
on the lowest setting it can last for 12-13 hours
im vigorously googling how to edit my partitions now, because i seriously fucked this poor laptop's bios and the terminal is almost un-usable.
i mean, i never use more than 1gb of extra space in my downloads, most of it is on drive, so having 4.4gb of space isnt too bad, but id like to have 9.4gb of free space
>>51959165
>>51959135
>>51959037
>>51959001
nevermind, i can just bring to a factory reset including repaired partitions with an 8gb usb stick and 5 minutes of time, ill do that in the morning
Why are there no FUCKING compilers for ChromeOS?
>>51959665
Use the cloud to compile your shit. Cloud9 IDE for example.
>>51959690
No, that's the only thing stopping me from loving my chromebook. There's not a single offline compiler.
>>51959665
>>51959701
ChromeOS is essentially gentoo with Chrome as its UI. If you enable developer mode you have a full shell and terminal you can use. Even has the GNU coreutils installed out the box.
>>51959690
>>51959701
Edit: it's actually a Ubuntu Docker. That's pretty interesting
>>51959739
It's still surprising that no one has figured out how to get full root access inside ChromeOS so that you could install software straight onto ChromeOS and not having to use a normal distro
>>51950113
interesting, I've yet to see a Chromebook on my campus. 90% are MacBooks, with the occasional Surface, HP, Dell, or Lenovo
>>51959796
you can do that by going in to developer mode
>>51959845
You can't e.g. install Firefox into ChromeOS without using Crouton or some other shit
Bought the Acer Chromebook 15 with the 1080p IPS display. Installed Arch with dwm and muh ricing on it. I am kinda mad I didn't find about them way earlier.
>>51944087
I owned the First one, it was actually really nice, I dual booted Ubuntu and ChromeOS at the time made sense (I had google play music and used google docs for document editing). Now I have Windows 10 with a Surface Pro 4.
>>51959866
The reason is that ChromeOS doesn't use X11. It's essentially just Chrome being rendered directly to the framebuffer (newer builds I believe have an abstraction layer).
You can run Firefox directly in ChromeOS, but it won't work as a ChromeOS window. It just spawns fixed in the top left corner and can't be moved or interacted with.
That's why crouton exists. It just creates a chroot for a friendly "standard" linux environment then renders it to another TTY where ChromeOS isn't rendering.
I would buy a Pixel in a heartbeat if you could install another OS on it without a fuckton of hardware issues.
can I watch videos on this thing while in crouton
>>51959968
Yeah. See >>51959915
Crouton is just a chroot rendering to another TTY. Full hardware acceleration and capabilities are available.
>>51959994
ahh, okay, that's cool, thanks.
