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>>51917944
First for Axel Grell
>>51917981
Sold your other Senn headphones?
>>51918050
Sold my mementum to a friend for $50
Gave away my HD600 to my brother
/hpg/ likes charts, so I'll post one.
>>51918050
What happened to your headphone burn-in project?
Do all pleather earpads heat up like the sun? Velours have so much leak and bass reduction r-r-right?
>>51918198
Cool, he must be pleased.
>>51918344
haven't had any time to think about it, was working on the presentation of my final paper, now i can sit back and study the topic more carefully. /hpg/ did gave some great suggestions last time though.
Signed up for the loaner program on head-fi for the Edition X. I would never pay this much for a pair of headphones, but it should be fun to listen to them for a week.
What do you anons think about Creative Aurvana Live headphones?
I was thinking about buying a pair for the bus.
>>51918519
How much better are they than the He400i and He560 and HD800?
>>51918575
I have not heard them, but you should note that they are not very sturdy so using them for bus rides and commuting is not recommended.
>>51918691
Thanks for the heads up. Know any sturdier headphones around that price range?
>>51918375
>Velours have so much leak and bass reduction r-r-right?
maybe Sennheiser's velours, but this doesn't surely apply to X2 velours or to more serious headphones
>>51918623
No idea, it'll be a while till they reach me.
>>51918427
I had asked what journals and standards organizations you had access to in doing your research. Can you answer that now?
Hd 668b
Anything else is a waste of money
>>51918880
>pain
>>51918427
>/hpg/ did gave some great suggestions last time though.
>>51918900
we did as nobody bothered to funpost.
>>51918344
your graph or?
>>51918744
Well, I'd recommend the Senal BAKA 500, but it has the long coiled cable.. A soldering iron and a standard cable can fix that.
>>51918763
I heard you sweat into velours and the pads start to shrink and stink. Is this true?
>>51918872
Not much yet, probably the college's magazine, maybe a few brazilian specialized publications, i'll be going for a master's degree next year, so maybe that will broaden up my small list of academic contacts.
>>51918900
What can i say, they did, i guess some times we just don't have that many shitposters at once...
>>51918989
again, this may be true for Sennheiser's velours. Are you a pig?
>>51919024
I'm talking velour in general has been known to shrink and stink because of its open, foam nature. Am I a pig? I don't know.
>>51918935
It was done by a German headphone shop. They seem to be finding out that STAX can be very finicky on dummy heads. The bass level is off, but the data looks about right otherwise
They have other measurements of STAX, here's one of the rare 4070.
>http://www.inexxon.com/stax-modelle/stax-kopfh%C3%B6rer/stax-4070/
>>51919017
I assume you have the AES journal at least?
have a chance of getting pic related for xmas from work - but I don't know what they're called or if they're good. can anyone help?
>>51919168
>on ears
wew lad
>>51919049
If you don't sweat like a crazy bastard you shouldn't have to worry. The only velour pads which may have the issues you mentioned are the Philips SHP95000's ones.
>>51919201
There must be some change in the sound from pleather to velour and sound leak say if you're in a library, then, r-r-right?
>>51919223
> r-r-right?
>>51919130
>AES
Yeah, that i suppose we can have acess too, with a good enough paper and interesting results we might even get get a spot for a lecture at the brazilian expo.
I have a good $100 to spend that I have to spend for Christmas or my mother would be upset, but I also wanted to buy some manga and a CD. I'm on the fence about whether or not to buy that new FiiO M3 player, but if I were to just buy a $20 chink player, whose stock earphones would 必ず be shit, what would I use to listen to it?
For listening to music outside purposes, mostly jazz but also jazz-inspired rock music and electronic pop.
Looking for some quality earbuds for biking
>$90-$125
>mostly used with an iPod classic or my Samsung S5, nothing fancy
>comfort is very important as I'll be using these for hours at a time every day, so memory foam sleeves are a must (unless I can buy them after the fact and just switch)
>Just about everything I listen to is bass heavy; electronic and prog metal mostly
Apologies if the links don't embed, I'm on mobile.
https://youtu.be/qT0iQRjHbW4
https://youtu.be/YJLTn10E0OY
https://youtu.be/LiaBjvrIgDM
https://youtu.be/lbA3jxab4A0
>past headphones
I owned a pair of Shure SE215 earbuds and they sounded great. The metal wire that holds it in position tends be break easily, however, and pokes into the cable. Modular features helped to mitigate the cost of replacements at least.
deat thred?
>>51920336
its very dangerous to listen to music while biking senpai
>>51919422
Perhaps you want a subject that can be tested more decisively than headphone burn-in.
I would think that binaural listening/recording would be good if you wanted to keep it headphone related.
>>51909519
>>Budget
> <$200
>>Location
> NZ but don't mind paying shipping
>>Source
> LG-G4
>>Preferred type of headphone
> closed
>>Comfort level
> Preferably high as will be mainly used at gym + public transport
>>Preferred music
> Hip Hop/Rap
>>Past headphones
> Have used Shure se215 and Xiaomi pistons in past but am looking for
>a medium to high quality headphone for gym and casual use
>Any help would be greatly appreciated
>>51921625
Funny that you say that, jsut today i was watching a presentation about guitar recording and thinking about how it interesting it must sound a binaural recording of a live band, mostly i only see it being used for piano recordings.
>>51919223
In terms of leak? a bit, bust most leak that is audible to others will be from open-back headphones. going from velour to pleather can change the sound drastically or so little so as to not be noticeable, it depends on the headphones and pads. in general the biggest change is going from something closed with tiny pads and then putting huge velours on them. significant bass and mids reduction. putting hm5 velours on my m40x killed the sound to the point where I could not just eq it back.
>>51920336
Just get the SE215 again, the other contenders in that price range are not as bassy/comfortable/durable for the most part.
>>51921658
XPT100 / HM5
M50x
Magni + Modi for $200 or O2+ODAC for $200?
>that feel when K7xx master race
>>51921734
Gay. Whatever, I'll just learn to take better care of them. Thanks mate
>>51921613
But senpai, I would love to die an accidental tragic death as I'm too much if a pussy for suicide
>>51921731
but you had shitty m40s to begin with. Try with something gud like m70 at least
>>51921740
O2+ODAC since that's a sale price for them and it's more convenient having both in one housing.
If you really wanted to "upgrade" (mostly unnecessary unless you're looking for placebo), you would presumably replace both the Magni and the Modi.
>>51921768
Actually I thought of a good alternate to the SE215 just now--RHA MA750.
>>51920199
so you want something cheap for use outside with a cheap player? IEMs. hje-120k is a good starting point, then step up to the piston 3, past that you're gonna want something in the $50+ territory which has too many options for me to just name one.
>>51921613
depends on the level of isolation. using something like an se215 sure I could see that, but a shallow fit IEM is going to give you more than enough awareness as long as you're not listening super loud. wearing a piston 3 is like wearing an open headphone in terms of isolation.
>>51921777
but m70x is trash just like the m50x
>>51921804
Neither is trash, especially not the m70x.
>>51921782
>MA750
Damn these look nice, love the steel design and the varied tips. It looks to be more balanced than the SE215 but from some of the reviews I've read it still can hit the lowest lows with a good deal.
They're listed at $120 on Amazon, is there anywhere I should look to try to get them cheaper?
Thanks for the help
>>51921794
I'm the guy he replied to, why is sound so important when riding? It's not like hearing a car coming by is going to make me any safer if I'm already as far to the side as I can be and I never listen at higher volumes because horns and sirens n shit
>>51921874
>hit the lowest lows with a good deal
>with a good deal
Y'know, I'm not sure what I was trying to say here..
>>51921887
> It's not like hearing a car coming by is going to make me any safer if I'm already as far to the side as I can be and I never listen at higher volumes because horns and sirens n shit
it will. You have to be aware of the totality of your surroundings.
What are some good, neutral IEMs for around or under 70$?
>>51921874
Not sure, you could always try eBay for possible deals but the MA750 has almost always sold close to its MSRP for some reason.
>>51921969
RE400.
>Budget
£100
>Location
United Kingdom
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy but this isn't too important
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral or V-shaped
>Preferred music
Bit of everything but mostly metal and Jpop
>Past headphones
AKG K44 and Monoprice 8323
>>51921887
generally you're right but as someone who commutes by bike pretty much daily there are a lot of situations and maneuvers where you want more awareness, like changing lanes, turning into streets against traffic, entering alleys, on park paths, on bridges, when you have to use the sidewalk etc.
everyone's commute is different but I switch between different roads and paths and alleys and such frequently, sometimes I even have to cross against traffic on both sides because of how a path is placed. if you're just going in a straight line down the street it doesn't matter so much. but bikes are more maneuverable that cars or even motorcycles so you're going to end up using them in ways which are not really the "rules of the road"
>>51921862
if you want headphones with bloated, notched bass and uneven mids and treble there are better options. the m40x and msr7 are better sounding by far than the m50 or 70, they're also not overpriced like those are.
>>51921874
>>51921899
be aware the ma750 isolates a good amount less than the se215, though that's mostly down to tips.
>>51922007
v6/7506
>>51922008
I understand, I too bike daily but my route is just one main road then a couple turns in the dead as fuck industrial area
I personally am very paranoid about lane shifts so I glance behind me at least three times or use a mirror. But when I DO bike like a dipshit I either have one or both buds out anyway
>>51922008
>if you want headphones with bloated, notched bass and uneven mids and treble there are better options. the m40x and msr7 are better sounding by far than the m50 or 70, they're also not overpriced like those are.
you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. The m70x is an extremely flat headphone for people producing and monitoring music. You're just another hpg sheep, little bro
>>51922026
That's actually pretty good, the isolation with the SE215s was a bit TOO good for my use case
>>51922093
>shill calls people sheep
>>51917944
Want to buy a noise canceling pair of head phones for the wife
anyone have any suggestions? majority of reviews praise the bose quiet 25 but those are 300$ (currently on sale on amazon for 269 but taxes puts it back in the 300$ anyway)
if anyone knows of some great noise canceling head phones please respond, trying to get this in time for christmas
>>51922093
HA HA! well shitposted my funny friend!
>>51922129
bose. if you can't afford the qc25 look for older models in the series or even used.
>>51922135
Everyone knows that damage control claims are a form of damage control.
>>51922179
>Argumentum ad populum
>>51922213
I bet you couldn't ask me how my day was in latin.
Has anyone tried both v6 and xpt100? How do they compare?
>>51922129
>bose
lol
>>51921700
Not being a recording specialist, I'm not too familiar with the details. Most I've heard it used for is capturing ambiance: nature sounds, concert/room sound, and such.
I'm not sure how to approach binaural for research. Didn't you say you had neither dummy heads nor anechoic chambers? You would have to use microphones worn by real people starting out, barring other tedious measurements and derivations.
>>51921969
Ety MK5. Fit and cable noise can be a little off putting.
Fiio EX1 for a little more bass. Note the distinct lack of isolation.
BEST IN EARS UNDER $40
GO
is there a significant sound difference between the 80 and 250 ohm for DT 770? their price is the same.
>>51921700
Check out Can-Flow Motion or Pearl Jam- Binaural great albums both recorded binaurally
>>51922847
The first pair you see when you walk into CVS
>>51920199
Get an X1 and pirate the manga you weeb shit
http://strawpoll.me/6297118/r
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>>51922922
>/r
Idiot
How good setup would I need to have to hear a difference between these two files?
Estimated cost of example setup would be nice, too.General
Complete name : The Seatbelts - COWBOY BEBOP Vitaminless (1998) {2014 Remaster} [FLAC 96kHz 24bit]/01 THE REAL FOLK BLUES.flac
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 3 118 Kbps
Comment : Mastered by JASRAC / FlyingDog
Audio
Format : FLAC
Format/Info : Free Lossless Audio Codec
Duration : 6mn 17s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 3 118 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 96.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Stream size : 140 MiB (100%)
Writing library : libFLAC 1.3.0 (UTC 2013-05-26)General
Complete name : The Seatbelts - Cowboy Bebopy Vitaminless (1998) (flac)/01 - The Seatbelts - The Real Folk Blues.flac
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 1 001 Kbps
Audio
Format : FLAC
Format/Info : Free Lossless Audio Codec
Duration : 6mn 17s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 1 001 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 45.0 MiB (100%)
Writing library : libFLAC 1.2.1 (UTC 2007-09-17)
>>51922944
>remaster
Not much.
I guy an O2+ODAC for $199 wouldn't be worth it if the only headphones I have are V6's, 598's, and M-100's?
Should I return the 598's and just spring for the 600's?
>>51922944
$0.
As for 16 vs 24bit, no human being is able to tell the difference.
>>51923000
*Guess not guy
Wtf autocorrect
>>51923000
An amp for those are unnecessary but as far if it was worth it, then yes. You don't need to worry about """""upgrading""""".
Also, yes, replace 598 with the 600.
>>51922964
>>51923004
I see, thank you. The difference is probably only technical, then. Not noticeable.
I also noticed that the source for the remaster was 44.1 kHz / 16bit, so I believe I can assume it's just a placebo.
Nonetheless, I think I will keep both, for archival reasons.
ath-m50 a shit
>"Hi-Fi" audio equipment
What's the vest leather earpads for AD700X? I heard the Audeze LCD2/3 pads can fit. Is it true?
Otherwise would I be fine buying a $15 pair from China?
Currently have 598's. Worth upgrading to DT 880 600's through massdrop or HD 600's through Amazon? I currently have a FiiO e10k.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/beyerdynamic-dt880-990-600-ohm-all-black-everything
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0199APD94
>Budget
$60-70
>Location
US
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy, as I usually wear head phones for long periods of time
>Preferred music
Alternative and various jap songs
>>51923599
HD600 because the Amazon deal is much better than the massdrop one.
$240 for an 880-600 just to get it in all black, when 880-250 Pro is $197 on Amazon at the moment, is dumb.
>>51923695
MDR-V6/7506.
>>51923705
Is it worth the extra money to go with the 650's? Comes with a $200 gc instead of 150. Idk if $50 is worth 50 numbers tho. /s
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-650-Professional-Headphone/dp/B00018MSNI/ref=pd_sim_sbs_267_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=41yMJKBvOVL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR114%2C160_&refRID=01WT03CGD7PVN8W1ZXDS
>>51923729
650 if you want more bass, 600 for neutral.
>>51923705
Thanks, I'll probably get the V6.
>>51923071
Nvm, they won't ship until like January 29th on Massdrop.
Do all their products really take that damn long to ship? There's no way to change it?
I'd rather just get a Schiit setup if that's the case.
>>51923747
Thanks for the help. Cheers.
Bought some Beats Studio wireless headsets a week ago
I like the noise canceling when I first turn it on but then it does that start up doo-do-do-doop-doo and there is a static on top of the noise canceling. Driving me fucking bonkers. For anything with a decent bass though they sound very good. Probably overpaid but fuck it I am only alive once. I'd blow it on something else worthless given time.
>>51923956
>Bought some Beats
[spoiler]At least they're not M50x's[/spoiler]
Still debating these. Think they're the best you can get for $30 right now?
>Budget
$50
>Location
US
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Sound quality is king
>Preferred tonal balance
N/A
>Preferred music
Electronic, classical, rap, in-game directional audio
>Past headphones
Generic $20 gaming headset
>>51925750
MDR-V6
What would you guys upgrade to from a HD650?
>>51926105
HD600
>>51926105
K702
Need some new headphones for producing music. No real budget, I just want to know what I can get depending on my budget.
I'd go for studio monitors but I'm scared of annoying my neighbors, so it has to be headphones.
>>51923956
If you bought them second hand or from some shady store they might be fake. Otherwise it's just poor quality.
>>51918344
>bass reaches 20hz lower than any of the omega's without roll off
>but dumps off after that instead of a linear shelf
Not that it really matters at 40hz, but it's interesting. Doesn't looks super bright like a normal lambda either.
Honestly, where should I go from here?
>>51926275
Just get something fairly neutral and EQ it to flat. Maybe look at the headphones some of the artists and producers you like use, not what they sponsor but what they really use.
>>51926414
Any Toys R Us pair of headphones.
>>51926448
Why? so you won't be jelly?
Been using these (Superlux 668b) for several years and they still beat anything within the two digit price range and even some 3 digit ones. Literally the best purchase I've ever made in my life.
Do they need EQing at all? Never really thought about it.
>>51926464
No, so you can get something better then what is pictured.
>>51926414
you gonna try to keep up that shit purchase combo?
>>51926609
No that's why I asked where should I go from here.
>>51926473
they're alright
turn down the highest frequencies unless you want to go deaf from china scam
>last pair of Headphones you bought
>do you enjoy them?
ATH-W5000
Fucks yes I do.
>>51927136
HD600
Somewhat yeah I guess.
I'd like to thank the two anons helping out with my sanity before purchasing.
It's truly the endgame of headphones.
Time to buy speakers soon.
anybody in here want to suggest me a new mobile recorder
a colleague fucked my tascam
>>51927412
Budget?
>>51927412
doesn't matter really
I just like to hear a bunch different ideas
>>51927136
pupils got me a new pair of DT990's with my signature engraved on it
I was so fucking happy, 990's were my first pair and I'm still best with these
>>51927412
Sony PCM series or alternatively UX series which is cheaper.
>>51927530
Sony huh - never really paid much attention to these
thanks
>>51927299
> It's truly the endgame of headphones
> Time to buy speakers soon
> yayyy XD
You really dislike hearing bass, don't you?
Kicks the shit out of many others
>>51927620
>lelhd600nobass
It's has some bass. And no, I like bass just not the overbloated kind.
>>51927645
>Flavor of the year from 2012
>>51922847
piston 3
>>51924655
is there an audible increase in quality, e10 vs hdvd800 (is that what it's called?)
>>51927743
>It's has some bass
> not the overbloated kind.
> implying there's not a middle ground between these two things
>>51925832
>>51925750
or CAL. the v6 for $50 can be hard to find. don't buy on ebay to get a lower price, you could get a fake.
>>51926473
like the v6 eq down the highs (I also use foam pads from the evo). add some sub-bass too. you could tune the bass to be flatter but then you would have got the 681.
>>51927645
kicks the shit out of the top of your head more like. also the plastic cracks along the band. really not worth it anymore. the th-02 is way better even if you have to mod it in a similar way.
got beyer dt 990 premium over akg 701, did i fuck up /g/?
>>51927835
yes. 701 is nobass but the 990 is extreme bass and extreme treble rape. should have gotten the k612 or something else.
>>51927835
Yes, you should have gotten either a AKG K702/7XX or a Fidelio X2. Every other headphone in the same price range is inferior.
why does /hpg/ spend so much money on headphones compared to their IEMs?
>>51927879
because IEMs are inferior to headphones by nature
>>51927879
I got SE535s for my commute which are about $200 more than my X2s.
>>51927781
>personal preferences
20-250hz is still pretty sensitive for the human ear. Just any above 4khz is another story.
>what is our basilar membrane
>>51927879
>why does /hpg/ spend so much money on headphones compared to their IEMs?
Apples and oranges.
9mm typically sized drivers with something stupid like a dildo sticking in your ear. Or a pair of miniature sized speakers cramped on your head.
IEMs are better for obvious reasons.
Pick your snake oil, both can be expensive also. Tip: anything else above $350 is the limit of the diminishing point of no return, be careful and research before buying.
>>51927879
because IEMs offer (generally) better sound quality value and the diminishing returns set in much sooner. also they can be lost or damaged much easier since most people use them for portable use. I have a bunch of IEMs but my daily driver is still the hje-120k because of the comfort and ease of use. for me anyways very high sound quality is harder to appreciate when you're walking down the isle of the supermarket or whatever.
>>51925342
Those are on-ear headphones if you didn't know. For 30 dollars they might be a steal or they could be junk. There specs are the same as most shitty headphones, but that really doesn't verify anything. They seem pretty stylish and good for traveling so it's probably a good purchase if you're on the move constantly.
>>51926414
Dayum, Beats. You be gucci as fug with those. Get those ugly ass tinny bright noctua headphones away from that beauty.
>spending more than $40 on headphones
I seriously hope you guys don't do this in 2015.
>>51924655
Hey Mr. Dad Rock.
>>51926473
Sure don't beat anything in terms of build quality or comfort.
Hi. I got electrostatics.
>>51928286
Nice placebo gear
>>51928038
anything* not any
>>51923518
>Anything above 20khz
>>51922922
>no audio technica
pleb
>>51920336
EX1 with a -5dB low shelf or puncture a hole into an ear sleeve. /n/ and /hpg/ proved
>>51928240
>wanting shit for Christmas
It's almost 2016.
>>51928286
gif related
>>51928316
Eh, I can afford to have placebo. My electrostats make half my headphones sound like shit in comparison though. Will probably just give my old ones to friends.
>>51928419
X2 doesn't need anything like that though
>>51928427
Most I use with my X2 is the e6, just for some extra volume if ever I need it. Senns get the stack. SR-007Mk2s get the WES.
My Xonar U7 is showing signs of going kill it seems.
It takes good 15 minutes until is gets recognized by my PC, tested with two seperate systems so USB hub failure/driver issues can be ruled out.
When I plug my headphone into it before that time all LEDs just go out and is stays dead until randomly starting to work after some time.
This started happening from one day to the other.
Does anybody know this issue or could recommend me a decent replacement for 100$ DAC+AMP in one?
>>51928437
it sounds logical. What's your favourite headphone?
>>51928449
SR-007mk2 > Senn 700 > X2 > 558 > m50x > k240
>>51928419
>give my old ones to friends
Trust more towards on family(unless if they're cunts) than friends. Otherwise sell them for cash, starting with tube amps.
>>51928494
Try out the HE-400i soon and be disappointed about that hd700, you'll thank the STAX later.
>>51928443
Fiio e10k
I don't know much about sound cards, I know that could cause some interference if its next by some other peripherals.
>>51928561
>what is v-moda
>>51928580
>Fiio e10k
I don't see anything about is having some kind of software, does it have one?
I don't want to miss a EQ and maybe a compressor, which are very nice in the U7.
>>51928664
>>Fiio e10k
>I don't see anything about is having some kind of software, does it have one?
No it's don't need some fancy mumbo jumbo drivers just plug and play. Anything USB Audio Class 1 is perfect at 16bit/44.1khz; No placebo at all.
>I don't want to miss a EQ
Try out APO EQ + peace gui
>and maybe a compressor, which are very nice in the U7.
Compressors are just limiters with filters added; it's junk unless if you're mixing.
>>51922568
I don't think the mics will need to be worn by people, but maybe an XY a little above the head, i guess even a single omni mic with some sort of reflections where the ears should be might work.
>>51922860
Will do, being curious for binaural albums for a while now, thanks Anon.
>>51926414
fill the form on Op, it makes easier to help.
>>51919168
>those earpads
>that headband
Really like what they did with the R and L but that thing is most likely junk.
>>51926414
Straight to jail for stealin' those Beats.
So guys, did I fuck up getting the Pistons 3.0 instead of the Brainwavz random grab bag massdrop sale
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/brainwavz-exclusive-mass-ive-grab-bag?mode=guest_open
What's Philips continuation/replacement for the Shp9500 since it's discontinued
>>51929442
No. Most likely you would have gotten one of their earphones that aren't as good as the piston 3. You had like 2/1000 chance to get something good.
>>51929512
thank god, I thought it'd be either one that's as good or one that's better
>>51922007
Brainwavz HM-5
>>51917944
how about the shure srh840
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0126HISOO
HD 598s for $109 right now. Outside of my price range, but some of you may want to jump on it.
>>51929608
>shure srh840
They're not bad, a little overpriced but not bad. Good portable headphones though. I'd go with a AKG K553 or NVX XPT100 instead though.
>>51926294
The bass hump and cutoff is the leak.
Stax in general don't measure super bright.
>>51929089
You want the shadowing/level difference, but there's also a time difference.
I would think something form of close spaced pair would work better for that. It's not binaural, but sometimes it is better if they aren't too realistic.
>>51929879
>$109
No they aren't. Unless you buy some good condition one I'm glad Sennheiser decided to actually release a black version of those headphones considering the noctua design is disgusting.
>>51929940
Try this. Apparently needs the additional shit.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0126HISOO/ref=gbps_tit_s-3_3022_6756412c?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=2292853022&pf_rd_s=slot-3&pf_rd_t=701&pf_rd_i=gb_all&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=070RGWBTJG4TXQJC2PFY
>>51927779
yes.
>>51928253
no
>>51929879
>Price: $146.88
uh anon are you okay?
>>51930025
Use the link on >>51929975
Gold Box deals need the extra shit at the end. I didn't know. Sorry.
>>51930037
>>51929975
>still only 15-20$ cheaper than the other amazon venders
jesus fucking christ I hate these fake "60% off" deals
/hpg/ just bought the sunheiser momentum in ear, and I am using m9, and I am not happy with quality of it, do you guy are using any equaliser or something, any recommendations??
>>51928286
did you mod the sr007 in any way?
>>51928561
>things companies think normalfags will use
>>51922544
XPT100 is slightly more clear, is more comfortable, is more neutral. It comes with a decent case, 2 detachable types of cables, and 2 pairs of earpads. V6 is the more fun of the two aka more v-shaped, a more compact headphone, and earpads on them tend to degrade over time as well.
XPT100 is clearly the better headphone but it's almost double the price of the MDR-V6. Though you'll probably have to change out the earpads on the MDR-V6 after a given time for new ones. Unless you don't really give a crap about appearance as they'll still function the same even if the earpads tend to look disgusting.
Would I say the XPT100 is worth double the price for the sound? No. Would I say its worth it for all the extra goodies and the comfort? Yeah.
>>51929466
there is none. just get a 558/598.
http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/gain-and-headphone-ampsdacs.html
http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/headphone-impedance-explained.html
http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/headphone-amp-impedance.html
Time to educate yourself.
>>51930734
No I didn't. I might though.
>>51930911
Fuckkkkkkkkkkkk, that's a shame. Hopefully there will be another Shp9500 sale soon.
hey guys, heres the experience driven, non-technical comparison i said id do a couple weeks back, between the x2 and 400i when i got it... and i finally did
http://pastebin.com/kjx9pFtd
obviously ill follow it up if anything changes, but i dont really expect anything like that anytime soon
>>51930951
It's dumbed down, but some of these things are just flat out wrong.
>tfw just fell for the m50x meme
>>51931357
Better than the no bass m40 meme
Anyone have any idea on what IEM's I should get for like £50 - £100?
I pretty much listen to most kinds of music so I want a good balance, last IEMs I got were the Brainwavz M1 and they sounded flat as fuck to me.
>>51931439
isn't flat supposed to be good?
>>51931388
t. Someone who has never listened to M40X
>>51931471
yeah idk if that was the proper word I was looking for, I guess they were pretty dull is what i'm trying to say, maybe that just because im used to listening to my beyerdynamics at home
>>51931523
maybe check out VSONIC GR07
Very highly rated on head.fi
don't know much about in ears tho
try doing the copy paste thing from the "requesting purchase advice" pastebin
>>51931308
Explain please. This is a /g/ wiki approved guide.
>>51921613
I bet you wear a helmet when bicycling too.
Who /anime/ here?
>>51924019
Wtf is wrong with M50x
>>51931636
right here senpai, whats up
>>51931638
Nothing, it's the unofficial/official headphone of /g/. Don't fall for the jewheisser memes, they're trying to trick you. Everyone knows audio technica and AKG are the best because they're weeb approved.
>>51931638
They were very overpriced for a while, right it's not so bad, still overpriced, but not so bad. Few years ago the original m50 costed just 20 bucks more than a Sony MDR v6, now it costs about 40 bucks more (some times even more) for the exact same headphone but with a detachable cable
>>51931498
No bass, no mids, notched highs
People should just buy 770s and then just stop buying shitphones
>>51931723
>770s
>LITERALLY no mids
>beyer(tm) middle finger treble spike
o-ok
>>51931749
More mids than m40 shit the bedders. Better to have more highs in a concentrated region that's easily neutralized than no highs and no bass
>>51931770
whats your headphones?
>>51931723
>>51931749
>Let the shitposting BEGGIN!!
>>51931721
But SENPAI the m50x is cheaper on amazon right now. The white ones go for 120 and the black ones were on sale for 120 on black friday. They're good headphones.
>>51926105
X2 for proper bass and clearer mids and highs
>>51931787
I rock the Mio phones.
>>51931805
indeed, but the mdr 7506 is still 80 bucks, so saying that 40 bucks more for the same headphone that costed just 20 bucks more is not wrong.
>>51931847
Good point.
Is the hd598 a meme. I bought it and it doesn't even sound that good
>>51931884
they're the number one pair of memephones
I think you need to like their specific sound signature
>>51931884
All open headphones are memes
>>51931884
same headphone as (much cheaper) HD558, different colors.
>>51931841
very nice. never heard them myself, but from their graph, they seem very respectable. i dont understand the hate they get here.
>>51931884
I fell for the meme. /g/ was shilling it as a super good deal on black friday, but the very next day everyone was voicing their buyer's remorse and now suddenly they're a meme.
>>51931911
I think I remember a ton of hype when the K7XX appeared (for the first time I believe) on massdrop a while back
when people got the first batch it turned out they were absolute shit and had a ton of rattle
I guess since then they just hate all variants?
>>51931963
i have no idea of its origin, but it sounds likely. sucks though, cause you would want to pretend /g/ would be above making such mindless correlations, but anyone can come here of course.
>>51931932
I think it's a thing where a lot of people moved from midrange to the HD598s, and their midrange was a good midrange. So say they spend ~$50-$60 for their midrange, and then pay $100 for the HD598s. They might expect a level of improvement beyond their capacity to detect it. Because they're effectively at a wall, either by quality or by hardware. There's that point of sharp, sharp decline when it comes to cost vs quality.
>>51932221
Good point.
>>51932221
I have it plugged in straight to my receiver it does not sound that good
Worth $109?
I will probably use it for light gaming and music
>>51932320
There's always that possibility too, yeah.
>>51932369
literally everyone on /g/ that bought them regrets it and they bought it for 15 bucks cheaper than that. You do the math, you dumb faggot.
>>51932440
meant to quote this guy
>>51932364
oops my bad
>>51931604
-Power (Voltage*Current) isn't a concern since we do not normally talk about transformers, and is not fixed since the current varies with frequency. Normal devices operate on a constant voltage drive principle, and headphones sound equally loud only if they have identical voltage sensitivity given the input. SPL for Volt has meaning and is how speakers and headphones are measured, not SPL/mW.
-Batteries store chemicals inside a cell(s) that produce a charge. The voltage is fixed for each cell inside, but the charge will depend on the size of the cell. For a constant voltage, high impedance (opposition to current) is less consuming on the battery.
Other issues:
>Mechanical damping is much like the shock absorbers on a car.
His example is awful. Car shocks are damped springs with their own resonances being used to stop the springing resonances of the car, not purely resistive dampers. Damping is resistance, known mechanically as friction.
>Damping Factor
I dislike this phrase. This type of damping refers to the electrical opposition of the driver to motion: moving wire in magnetic field generates current opposite the motion. The impedance spike you see if from the driver motion being especially high at the mechanical resonance, more voltage is generated in opposition to the input voltage.
Damping factor doesn't tell you anything in particular about the frequency response deviation that occurs, or the driver's resistance to motion. You figure that out by figuring out the impedance of the components in the circuit, and the frequency shift alone will tell you practically everything you wanted to know anyway.
>>51932364
Yeah it's worth that price.
>>51931963
memes, mine are fine and their in the first batch. Plus if you did have that problem it's an easy fix that even a baby could manage.
>>51931147
>http://pastebin.com/kjx9pFtd
Nice review but I can't agree on the trebles, they sound clear, only vocals needed less than a DB more to soun dperfect for my ears. But I also have exceptional high frequency hearing still left due to baby ears so might be that.
>>51933038
do you have any other more neutral headphones around per chance?
>>51933079
Only if you show me your boipussy
Well, throw some recommendations my way.
>Budget
$100.00, Flexable
>Location
United States
>Source
DAC/AMP
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Not important
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral, Bassy
>Preferred music
Post Metal/Rock, Shoegaze, Dream Pop
>Past headphones
ATH-AD500X, Takstar HI2050
>>51933118
im serious. i just wanted to have you listen to some cymbal or treble heavy music and see if they actually dont sound like shit in comparison to some other headphones, like in flames - reroute to remain and day6 - congratulations both sound like a mess during certain parts on my x2
i agree that it doesnt really affect other things nearly as much, for example vocals are still pretty good, just some girls had a tendency to sound a bit unnatural. males almost always sounded fine though
>>51933170
I just want a cute boy butt to jack off to
Show me your ass you slut
>>51933185
youve got the wrong person my man
there is none of that found in area
>>51931147
How did you afford both the X2 and the 400i while being NEET?
>>51933204
>He's not a cute anime girl slut
What are you doing on /hpg/ then?
>>51931963
I'm one of the anons who was mad about rattle and spiky treble. After I got replacement and EQed treble they were quite good. Few days ago I got an amp and now they sound amazing compared to very first experience with them. I'm still not sure if it was worth it but I don't think I could ever get x2 or hd600 for this price since only massdrop has decent delivery cost in shitholes such as mine.
>>51931147
Yeah did an eq in peter APO eq to try and identfy the same "problem" in trebles, but they they just sound fine and might want to boost 15-16.5k area a few db I you cant hear properly. Its your ears man, or some defect (wtf wat ink problem?)
>>51933079
DT880, shp9500 and modded 518s, so yes Id assume theyre pretty neutral
>>51933270
>>51933285
Also I exclusively listen to rock/metal a.k.a guitar and drums as main, and theyre fine. I still hear sound up to 20khz so must be that, since DT800s trebles are earingingly harsh and loud trebles to me.
>>51933209
mined bitcoins when they were still $2-3 a piece
>>51933235
:^)
>>51933270
i wouldnt be averse to saying it could be my ears, but cymbals sound fine in both the he400i and dt880s i have. and these logitech speakers i have, and some klipsch floorstanders downstairs
>>51933285
try listening to the songs i linked to the other guy. do the guitars and cymbals sound coherent on the x2?
>>51933313
Where are they linked?
>>51933368
oh i didnt linkem i just named them
here
https://a.uguu.se/dsnyaq_DAY6-Congratulations.m4a
https://a.uguu.se/gpadsl_RerouteToRemain.opus
I was thinking about archiving my CD collections in the Opus codec. That's the best bet for quality and size, right?
>>51933434
yes
>>51933420
>https://a.uguu.se/dsnyaq_DAY6-Congratulations.m4a
wtf thats plebetier 192kbps, 320 is where the symbals etc sound normal. Sound liek absulute garbage on the beyers too...
>>51928286
Why the fuck would you go and buy the worst amp you can? Woo Audio is literally a joke in the STAX world. Return it/sell it and get a good Gilmore amp at least. Also port mod the 007.
>>51933456
Ok I listened to them both. Bad quality audio. I listen to 320 or flac only, symbals sound perfectly normal, 10 times better than shp9500, 518, dt880 though so theres that. Hard to say but they sound present in good quality songs, not like noise.
>>51933456
>>51933526
um, the whole 320 thing is for the dated mp3 senpai. even as low as 128 will still sound very good for aac, with 160 hitting virtually transparent. 192 is overkill. besides, that doesnt change the fact that the same file sounds completely fine in all my headphones/speakers except the x2 where the treble is a mess.
i mean, i suppose it could be my hearing, but id blame the headphones first. i might say i have a bad pair, but i returned the first pair i got for the same reason, and the next ones do the same thing.
reroute to remain is a 142kb opus encode from a flac file that i ripped myself. the difference wouldnt present itself so heavily like shown in these headphones
>>51933593
Well they sound like dogshit, and my 320 and flac files with similar fast paced drumming sounds fine and natural, don't know what to tell you buddy, it's not my hearing at least.
>>51933639
i agree, they sound like dogshit on my x2. the rest are fine, and you say they sound like shit on all of your headphones? give me a high quality song of similar type then where the cymbals are not failing you on your x2, and i will see how it compares on my x2 and everything else
Can I get an opinion of the HD 558's? I can get a pair for 80$ and was wondering if there was any better options for the price.
How are the new Xiaomi Mi IV Hybrid? Where is a good place to buy them at?
>>51933593
>that doesnt change the fact that the same file sounds completely fine in all my headphones/speakers except the x2 where the treble is a mess.
are you talking about the files in >>51933420? I've just listened to them on my X2 and the cymbals sound messy and chaotic. I strongly doubt that it's due to the headphones, because it's a problem of sound definition/detail, not FR, then this issue must be due to either a low quality music file or to a bad mastering.
>>51933807
No, just buy them and let yourself be amused by their amazing sound
>>51933441
>>51933434
160 or 192 kbps?
CBR for everything except GY!BE, right?
>>51933827
no, its your headphones, thats what im saying. the same files sound perfectly fine in everything i own except my x2s.
>>51933836
with opus youd only need 160 at most, and use VBR.
>>51933833
i am skeptical
>>51933696
Not him but here. The cymbals in this song sound like a shit on all of my cheap headphones and only sound right on k7xx
https://soundcloud.com/lordtenma/demetori-mysterious-mountain
>>51933931
yeah, sounds great on the he400i. unfortunately ive boxed my x2 to give to my sister as a gift so i cant compare them, but after she opens them ill try this song out, this is perfect, im really fucking curious to see how this will sound
>>51933931
these cymbals sound great to me through my X2, then I suspect even more now that >>51933858 has a biased opinion
>>51934001
maybe i got two shit pairs in a row? i mean, im not trying to lie here. i think we should do this kind of stuff more often
>>51933931
wow sounds great on my m50x. Thanks bud! Does this mean m50x >>>>>> X2 ?
>>51934022
I don't know man, the treble in my X2 is usually rather detailed, maybe our ears judge sounds differently?
>>51933931
sounds pretty shit on my SR850s yea
>>51934064
well i havent heard that specific song on the x2 yet, as i said here >>51933972, maybe the cymbals arent the same frequency that the x2 would usually sound chaotic to my hearing. sigh. of course the amount of layers of points of failure make this difficult.
i know that at a "reasonable" volume, i can only hear to maybe 17k, so it could be me. i just dont think that explains why the same exact files sound okay to me on every single other thing i own, which leads me to believe that i got a bad pair... but it was 2 different pairs doing the same thing. what are the odds? maybe this is why amazon has that "something wrong with our inventory" message? i got it around that time.
i wonder when >>51933827
got his x2s
What soundcard should I be looking at for the AD900x? My mobo has ALC898 built in
Is it possible to put Brainwavz pads on the K7XX?
>>51934178
Anything is possible when you're an anime girl
>>51934128
I got two different pair of X2: I sent the first one back to Amazon because earpads were glued, but the second one I got has the same issue...this thing aside, I got my last pair 3 weeks ago.
> i can only hear to maybe 17k
how old are you? I also can't reach past that limit, I'm 27, then I guess it's normal after a certain age.
However, I tried to test my X2 and my AKG K518 with the file in >>51933931 and the cymbals sound basically the same. Isn't it strange?
>>51934178
>velour, not even hybrid
>>51934128
Well 17k for me is loud so I, max is 20khz for me, but very faint ofc. Normal low volume is 18.5k though.
>>51934178
velour is a meme. you're a filthy animal.
>>51933931
Sound good on my x2s, piercing on the beyers.
Listen to opeth eternal rains, even on youtube it sounds ok, 320 mp3 is alot better though.
Sennheiser 558's are on sale at Newegg for $79 w/ code EMCKNKW78 ($99 without.)
Just thought I'd let anyone know that wants them.
>>51934315
>shitheisers
Fuck off jew.
Nah just kidding. Thanks though.
>>51934228
>>51934264
>using leatherlikes
ew
>>51934435
>he uses shitty memepads that distort the audio
Don't you know headfi science brah?
>>51934327
Fucking asshole
>>51934576
I said just kidding you nigger
Cool down you hothead
>>51934557
>taking minimal sound advantage over comfort advantage
spoken like a true memelord
>>51934162
DG(X)
You don't really need a soundcard.
>>51934615
>he doesn't sacrifice for his love of music and audiophilia
You're not a true man.
>>51934623
Yes you do you lying memer
hey guys, should I get my son (16) a pair of superlux hd681, hd668b, or some takstar hi2050?
They're all about what I want to pay, ($50) and I'm fairly certain he only cares about them sounding nice for music. He doesn't game and he doesn't record anything, just listens to a bunch of alternative, folk, screamo, noise, rock, etc. He's taken a liking to borrowing my senn 600 and I want to get him a decent pair to go with the laptop I'm co-buying with him for christmas.
Your thoughts guys? His sisters hate hearing his music so isolation and comfort are both important (he currently wears his earbuds all the damn time)
>>51934713
Oh yeah you're right. Okay if you want true HD surround sound gaming with epic bass and positional audio so you can increase your k/d ratio tenfold you should get a... Xonar DG(X).
Rek some noobs, get yours right now.
>Budget
$400-$500 (flexible, including amp/dac)
>Location
USA
>Source
Desktop PC, laptop, I do not own a DAC/amp so if I need one please recommend one
>Preferred type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
I use them for many hours at a time so I prefer comfort over maximizing sound quality
>Preferred music
Rap/electronic
>Past headphones
audio technica m50:
likes: good sound separation to my ears, and I loved how clean and tight the bass sounded
dislikes: sometimes at higher volumes snares/claps sounded harsh/too hard and loud
>>51934162
It's likely that you won't need anything.
>>51934805
>>51934623
Works for me, cheap is A-ok
>>51934849
It will give you those soundcard features like virtual surround and it's pretty cheap. AD900x doesn't need an amp in the first place so you will be fine.
>>51934877
I'm not sure I even play anything that would use virtual surround. Or watch anything that would.
>>51934908
I actually owned one and I thought the virtual surround sounded so fake I never used it. It won't make the headphones sound magically better so research if the features are something you are interested in.
I suppose you could use it as a DAC in the future if you decide to get beefier headphones. The SPDIF output is the most enticing thing about it to me. It's up to you.
Babby's first headphones, what buy?
200 eurobucks. Going to be using them with a computer. Something big to surround my Dumbo ears and closed so that I can drown out the sounds of wife bitching and moaning. I listen to all sorts of things, but not a lot of bass heavy stuff so ignore that requirement,
>>51935224
Need advice on some in ear earphones around 50 dollars.
Do I buy pic related?
>>51935349
xiaomi
hybrids
>>51935370
>there's a new xiaomi
>nobody here told me about it
is it better than the previous ones?
>>51935349
disgusting v-shape
>>51934765
i'll try again formally for good measure
>Budget
$40-$60
>Location
USA
>Source
laptop and lg g3
>Preferred type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
either, nust not extremely leaky
>Comfort level
he's a somewhat particular kid (maybe aspie) and he would wear them 3+ hours at a time, so comfortable enough for that
>Preferred music
alternative, folk, experimental, jazz, math rock and mathcore, noise rock, etc
>Past headphones
he likes my senn 600. he had some skullcandy cans when he was like 12 or something, loved them then decided they sucked. he currently uses in ears but wants full size i know. this is a treat.
i'm looking at takstar hi2050, superlux hd668b and hd681. he likes his music loud, any thoughts? Thanks /g/
>>51935555
I'd go with the takstar hi2050.
Also tinnitus is a very very serious matter if he likes his music loud, you might want to show him some websites which talk about it cos once your ears are fucked you can't enjoy music the same way again
>>51935661
not crazy loud, i just meant he doesn't want to be hearing his sisters talking if he has his phones in. also might not be as big of a deal with more quality headphones.
>>51935739
then say he wants isolation instead of loud music
that pretty much throws open headphones out the window, look at the takstar pro 80 maybe if you can scrap together some extra
- beyerdynamic DT-770 pro 32
- ATH-M50x
- ATH-T500
Which one is better for using with standard laptop soundcard for daily listening?
>>51935829
MDR 7506
>>51935820
they have separate rooms, and i heard that superlux at least has good isolation with semi open. i still want to be able to call his name yenno. i just don't know if the hd681 have good quality, i don't know if hd668b has comfort enough, and i don't know if takstar hi2050 has at least okay isolation/not too loud to surrounding people. basically, which pair's flaw is the smallest?
Help me please to find good headphones
>Budget
130 - 180 €
>Location
Germany
>Source
My laptop and my phone, Xperia Z3
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Whats better?
>Comfort level
comfortable < sound quality
>Preferred tonal balance
>Preferred music
I don´t prefere a music direction. Listening to nearly everything (mostly Rock or Instrumental)
>Past headphones
Sony MDRZX600R
>>51935878
why?
Is it normal that my AKG K518 sound as good as my X2?
>>51936065
Yes
>HE FELL FOR THE MEME
>>51936372
Seriously...
>>51936662
No, sorry. Try them both out on a song you know really really well
>>51936792
I already did and that's why I'm asking. If anyone has a K518 and X2 it would be helpful.
So hey a question, if i have too little bass in my headphones should i get a dac?
>>51931805
>>51931721
>>51931638
v6 was always better than the m50 anyways. if you're going to spend $100 or more there are much better headphones, m40x for example.
>>51931723
>m50 bass, no mids with added beyer treble rape
>better for people wanting something neutral
lol, good joke
>>51932451
>>51931884
people who bought the 598 in BF were fucking retards who knew nothing about the headphones they were buying other than they were recommended by /g/. people actually came in here complaining it didn't have as much bass as m50. the 598 is not bad, if they didn't want something that sounded like that, why did they buy it? because they don't know what they want and have no idea how to evaluate headphones, they just blindly buy things based on recs, which is why people bought m50s too.
>>51931963
rattle was a problem on some of the first k7xx, but it's still one of the best AKG headphones. that and the 612 are the best ones.
>>51933901
just do the foam mod. bam, $80 598.
>>51934798
anyone?
>>51935555
hi2050, hsr1000/pro 80 for closed. he would also like the CAL, but it's not as durable. the superlux both sound great but the comfort isn't as good. they do have better cable systems than the others though, so if you're worried about him having a channel cut our because of cable strain, which is very common, on the superlux you can just plug another in without having to open them a re-wire.
>>51935489
depends on what you like. piston 3 is still the most balanced by a good amount. piston 2 is v-shaped with lots of bass, the hybrid is like the 2 without the elevated highs, so very dark sounding.
>>51935937
well it folds for one, so better for portable use.
>>51937289
you want bassy? high end closed is harder to nail down than open. I would say it's better to avoid that price point, it's kind of a no-mans land where you'll only find particular, colored stuff, like the new massdrop fostex. best closed headphones are usually cheaper actually, like PM3, msr7 for neutral, hp50 and mad dog for warm, srh1540 for a bit bassier sound. no need to buy an special amp for any of those. if you're going to spend that amount anyways tack on some speakers or some open headphones as well.
>Budget
Not a huge concern, but I'd like to keep it under $200 if possible.
>Location
USA
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Probably open for the music I listen to
>Comfort level
Obviously comfy is great, but I would trade comfort level for better sound.
>Preferred music
Classical (or art music if you want to be a dick about it)
>>51937133
If you can't hear any difference then just return the x2 and get your money back
Anyone know of some good circumaural, closed headphones?
The only ones I can find that I like are the Hd449s
>>51937677
Use the template
>>51937703
Fine then
>Budget 300
>Location US
>Source Computer, cellphone
>Preferred type of headphone first pair
>Open or closed: Closed
>Comfort level: IDK
>Preferred tonal balance: IDK
>Preferred music varies depending on day
>Past headphones None
>>51937450
Yes I would like bassy. Are there any good bassy open headphones? Or are there any other good closed headphones that are bassy besides the srh1540?
>>51937757
What type of music do u listen to?
Otherwhise HD600... Like more bassy? X2
Hi /hpg/ so I want to buy high quality headphones but I'm on a budget
I've got my eyes on some sony headphones used for monitoring
the problem is, the description says they are not for listening to music but rather, listening the samples imperfections
how true is that?
should I really bother since I mainly download high quality samples?
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![0020830668_7247_grande[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3RE94Gd.jpg "0020830668 7247 grande[1]")
