PC Build help general
I'm very new to this , rate
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cLKbmG
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Zg8sdC
Brutal honesty is appreciated.
I already have the ssd, hdd, and case.
>>51882047
Not bad. CPU cooler may be a bit much, but everything else seems alright.
R8 me http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QFQN8d
>>51882047
You have an overclockable Cpu with a motherboard that doesn't support overclocking.
>>51882047
You also have a NIC on the motherboard, you don't need that TP link one
>>51882472
I don't see a need for that sound card or the Arctic silver
Is there any instance outside of a radiator placement in which top exhaust slots should ever be used? I kind of want to switch things up a little, and do top epxhaust, but I know if I do a whole lot more dust will get in, and there'll be more noise too.
>>51882472
Also, motherboard is overkill for that cpu
It would suck
>>51882047
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9bNTGX
why would you need all network adapter and that expensive cpu fan when you wont be overclocking?
>>51882047
Probably would be okay with an AMD
how does this look for sub 2k including all the monitors.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/bTffwP
>>51882784
What are you using it for?
>>51882885
code, cad, learning new shit.
getting something like this will hopefully make me want to do more work.
Hey guys, I'm double checking all my shit as I add it into my bag
2400 frequency with latency of cas 12 is pretty much the sweet spot for DDR4 RAM right?
>>51882463
>gaymer ram
>>51882917
Okay, I'd say that gfx card is highly underpowered for three monitors and doing CAD.
>>51883205
yeah I was thinking that, decent quadros are so expensive.
>>51882047
Modified part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
>CPU
There's no reason in buying a i5-4670K when you can buy a i5-4690K. It's cheaper, clocked higher, and runs cooler.
>CPU Cooling
There's no reason in spending $50.00 on air cooling when you can buy a closed loop liquid cooler for the same price. If you're going with air cooling, then buy a Hyper 212 EVO.
>Motherboard
There's no reason in buying a B85 chipset motherboard if you're going to pair it with a K series CPU. If you see a CPU with a K at the end of the name, then that means it's overclockable. Only the Z97 chipset supports overclocking. If you do not plan on overclocking, then I recommend you buy a cheaper H81, B85, or H97 chipset motherboard, as well as a i5-4690, and that you drop the after market cooler.
>Memory
Always buy from Crucial or Kingston, they have the lowest failure rates. You currently can buy an 8GB kit of Crucial Ballistix for cheaper than a kit of Kingston HyperX.
>Storage
Never buy Seagate drives, they have some of the highest failure rates. Buy from Western Digital instead.
>Power Supply
This build doesn't require nearly that much power. Something as low end as a CX430 would work just fine. Just be sure that when buying a power supply that it is 80+ certified.
>>51883478
Whoops, wrong link. Here's the actual modified part list http://pcpartpicker.com/p/p3bDP6
>>51882463
>>51882983
It'd be nice if someone actually offered suggestions for improvement rather than shit like that.
>>51882463
I'd do these changes
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/g2Vy6h
>>51883599
It's fine as is
is h81 chipset good enough for i3-4170 or should i just shill it up and get h97
>>51882463
I wouldn't buy Thermaltake cases for ethical reasons. Because they simply ripped off from Fractal.
I'd buy at least 2TB hard disk.
>>51883281
Skip something else and get a quadro k1200
>>51882463
Don't bother with Skylake, the performance gains are minimal. If you're only going to play games, then just get 8gb's of memory. Also, get a WD Blue, Greens are shit.
>>51882472
Get rid of the thermal paste, it already comes pre-applied on the stock cooler. Unless you're planning to upgrade in the future, then get a H81, B85. or H97 board. Again, unless you're planning to upgrade in the future, then swap the CX500 for a CX430. Also, drop the sound card.
>>51883861
yes its good enough.
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/w3ZDP6
looking on recommendations on the following things:
1) is the psu enough
2) recs for cheaper mobo (i did read that haswells run the best on 97 and other chipsets will fuck shit up, but then again i know nothing)
3) do i even need cpu cooler since i wont be OCing
>>51882047
It kills me when first timers build anything over 500.
Bruv, build something cheap, and then subsist on cheap last gen games at ultra settings until you get use to pc gaming and/or know for sure it's right for you.
Don't listen to the memester idiots on /v/ who think EVERYONE should pc game. It's very much user taste/needs dependant.
>>51883982
Here is a modified list: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/9KqgvK
If you're willing to give up a bit of performance, then I would recommend buying a GTX 950 instead. It's the same card as the GTX 960, but a bit cut down and cheaper. I would also recommend a smaller case, but that's up to you.
>>51883982
How much are Skylake i3s? The cheapest Skylake i3 is already as fast as the fastest Haswell one. Other than that, you definitely don't need a CPU cooler and I recommend a Crucial SSD over a Kingston any day.
I have that same wifi adapter, it's great for the money, but I was really happy when I finally switched to to a cable for a really stable and fast connection.
500W is plenty. That build doesn't even use 200W.
>>51884169
I've considered getting gtx 950, but at the place i will be buying the pricing kinda goes like this:
950 is 180 eur
960 2gb 220 eur
960 4gb 230 eur
so i thought investing 50 eur for much better graphic performance would be worth it
>>51884374
cheapest skylake is about 30 eur more than i3-4170 but it would force me to get lga-1151 mob o and those are pretty expensive at the place where i live
also, does the fact that I live in a high humidity and very hot summer kind of place change the need for a cpu cooler?
>>51883982
>>51884374
Here I can agree that Skylake is more viable option if you're buying an i3. The cheapest Skylake i3 is the i3-6100 which is neck and neck with the i3-4370.
>>51884447
Then at least save a couple of bucks on the 2GB version of the 960 or get a faster AMD R9 380. The 960 can hardly even use more than 2GB of RAM because of the shitty memory bus. Look at this article:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-nvidia-geforce-gtx-960-2gb-vs-4gb-review
>>51884447
Here are some benchmarks comparing the GTX 960 and 950. I suppose it may be worth the extra dosh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtPbJCJSBw4
i3's don't get very hot. If I were you; I would wait and see if I would need an after market cooler.
I'm cobbling together a tentative build to put together in the summer. Money is not an issue if it can stay quiet under moderate overclocking. Main use is for vidya. Secondary use is for work related (engineering) in AutoCAD and MATLAB. This build will be replacing a five yr old i7 920/GTS 250.
>>51884842
Awful
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/QDBqCJ
How is my build?
>>51883478
>Always buy from Crucial or Kingston, they have the lowest failure rates.
failure rates is so fucking low on ram these days that you can buy literally anything, also for the most part all manufaturers warranty the shit for life. this man is a shill.
>>51884842
Well... I hope you know you can put together a better build for half the money.
>fan filter
What the fuck, just get a good case with dust filters
>$400 motherboard
Anything past 150-200 is ridiculous. $100 boards are fine too.
>GTX 980
Not even a Ti on that budget?
>PSU
OVER A KW OF POWER FOR A <500W build
>SSD
You can get a very good 500GB SSD for that money and you'll hardly notice anything of the speed difference of a SATA vs PCI-E SSD.
>RAM
You don't really need more than 8GB and it's still to expensive for 16GB but eh, I'll let that slide.
>monitor
If you going to go that expensive, get more than one monitor, at least one of which having a resolution of at least 2560x1440.
>sound card
Onboard sound is fine these days. Save 50 bucks and don't buy it.
>VGA cooler
What?
>A billion fans
What what? You don't really need more than 2-3 case fans and I'm sure you get some with your case.
Are you a troll?
>>51884898
It's alright, but you could do better with an i5 and a better GPU.
Also, that hard drive is really shitty and slow. Get a 7200RPM drive (avoid Seagate).
The PSU is way overkill. Your system will run fine on a 500W one.
>>51885073
What if I only use the hdd for storage? Everything else on ssd
>>51885119
Only for movies and pictures and movies and shit? Sure. Just don't put any software or games on it.
>>51884555
is r9 380 better at using 4gb or is it same as gtx 960?
>>51885184
yea media stuff I put on it.
R8 M8s. Shit even some b8 is welcome.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xWKRrH
>>51885203
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0HzWW6mDno
>>51885203
380 is better, but it doesn't really matter that much, look at that link I posted.
970, 980, or R9 390?
I want the cheaper NVIDIA card, but the VRAM turns me off, I don't want to spend so much on a card with it and use it for years. I should get the 390, but I've heard about games being better optimized for NVIDIA cards, and the only other good alternative is the 980.
>>51885247
I'm indifferent to both Intel and AMD, But seriously why do people shit on AMD. Shit I wouldn't mind an average 5 to 10 less FPS for saving some money if it came down to it.
>>51885223
^ This is my first Gaming rig I plan on building. ~1000 BurgerBux aint that bad imo
>>51885223
Why a liquid cooler? Are you planning on overclocking? If so, then get a 990FX board. You don't need that high end of a power supply. Get a CX600 or 600B. Also, $40 is a bit much for a wifi card.
>>51885073
btw abut the psu, I went overkill since its future proofing and I won't have to buy a new psu with higher voltage when I upgrade.
>>51885307
I'd get the 390
>trades blows with the 980 in a lot of games
>amd cards get better with age (see: 7970 vs 680, 290x vs 780)
>twice the vram (doesn't matter much now but it's nice)
>>51885307
I'm stuck at this point two 980 is not worth the money
>>51885307
From What I understand, just go with AMD R9 390 series. Its specifically made more or less for gaming no bells and whistles and just raw horsepower.
People do shit post about muh drivers.
But personally for me, it really doesn't matter in the long run. Shit posting about AMD is just humorous because, people hate on a product that give about up to 5 to 10 less FPS for a great price/performance ratio.
TL;DR, just go team red and get a solid water cool and an extra fan or two and save that extra cash and buy your self some beer while playing some great vidya
>>51885363
Yeah I plan on overclocking.
N00b here, not really sure what makes a a difference between a good mobo and a lower end mobo besides less USB ports and shit
>>51885330
Because AMD CPUs really are shit for gaming. Look at your build:
>160 bucks 8350
>50 bucks cooler
>100 bucks motherboard
You spend $310 for a setup that has a hard time even getting close to Haswell i3 processors, that run fine on a 70 dollar motherboard, cost 120 bucks and come with a cooler that is plenty, because the chips don't get so hot.
Let alone Skylake i3s that are even better.
Let alone any locked Intel i5 that rapes the 8350's face with a 200 dollar chip and a 100 dollar motherboard, being the same fucking price as your 8350 setup.
Really, doing an AMD build before Zen comes out is really stupid to say the least.
>have $300 ish
>have 560ti
>want to upgrade
do I
>7970 crossfire ($300)
>290 ($230)
>290x ($270)
I have a 750w psu so 7970 crossfire would be right at the limit, but it should be fine
>>51885465
Don't crossfire. So many games don't support it and if they do don't get much advantage out if it.
planned build. R8 and h8
i5 750
GTX 760
12 GB ram (already owned)
1 SSD and 3 HDDs (already owned)
Gigabyte GA-H81M-HD3
Antec 620W
Arctic Alpine 11 GT cpu cooler
>>51885479
alright
probably just gonna go with the first non-ref 290 I see for under $250
I'm playing at 1080p so it'll be more than enough
>>51885579
install gentoo
>>51885579
If you are going Team Green
Get a higher end overclock able i5k
and save up for and get a 970.
>>51885628
>3.5
>install gentoo
>>51882463
dumb frogposter
>>51885608
loserlife idiotcunt. dumbfuck nothingperson. cant stand windows computers cause he cant suss em out, reverts to the typical garbage rhetoric. trash boy, that comment and all the other faggotbabble you post on this website will be your only contributionto the world. you'll die angry and confused, and most assuredly alone, tweaking some half-functioning distro. lardass.
I ordered a 4590 off amazon uk and they sent me a 4690k instead
>>51885687
Should of ordered a i10 3000 what the fuck anon!?
>>51885687
ok
now post a booty clap video of yourself
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Fhdc99
Building for a friend. If you don't mind, a mouse and keyboard needs to be added. The mouse should be wired, probably optical, and doesn't need to be much more complex than the 2 buttons + scroll wheel. Keyboard also wired, and mechanical. If you know any cheap ones that perform real well, please add them on.
>>51885840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rGt5yJzGO0
Was looking for this thread!
Can I get some pointers on this?
I do not wish to go Intel or Nividia for reasons I rather not discuss with /g/ lest this turn into a flamewar, so AMD CPU and GPU are the only thing here that must stay.
Its for games like WoW and Smite, and the entire Adobe Suite (mostly Premiere, Illustrator and Photoshop)
Any ideas?
Thanks senpai!
>>51882582
anybody?
>Coworker gets a desktop pc from a corporate auction for $160
>320gb hdd, i7-2600, 4gb ddr3-1333, some certainly awful PSU that can only sustain 260W apparently.
>Wants it for video streaming and some gaming potentially.
>he ends up buying 8gb(4gbx2) ddr3-1333 and a HD5450 for $70 total.
Now i'm waiting for him to come back to me and say he can't play any games whatsoever, but when he does what would be the best option? The 750 ti is cheap, but the 950 just seems like the best value and is above current-gen consoles.
>>51886580
R9 380 for about $170
>>51886231
why a watercooler?
>>51886692
Purely looks and interest in a water cooler.
Presumably it makes it easier to manage shit inside as well.
How good is the AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor would you say? Planning on having it for a modest £400-£500 build. How does it compare with the Intel CPUs like the i3 or i5? Sorry I'm a bit noob at all this desu, and the differences in CPUs just confuse me.
>>51886787
AMD is good for budget but the Athlons are getting old now.
go for something like this for £500
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/PCTRrH
You're better off getting an R9 380 or 380x, better and cheaper.
Hey /g/uys,
I'm about to make my first gaming pc purchase and wanted advice.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/r6ksdC
I get only one compatibility issue:
>Some AMD 970 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Vishera CPUs.
Is this even a problem? Or could I easily just update the bios?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Yvpp7P
This is my first build.I actually don't do much gaming at all, so my setup is 2 1080p monitors and i'll probably set all the settings on CSGO and Dota 2 to maximum. Will the CPU be able to handle that? Also, how are the motherboard and case fans?
I have to keep the Titan X in this build, it was a gift from somebody. A shame that i'm almost just wasting it but that is how it is.
anyone do mini-ITX builds?
>>51887543
over the R9 390?
>>51887926
That's a great fucking gift
>>51882047
I have that case!
>>51884842
i7 920 is 7 years old, not 5 years old.
I can't bring myself to press the "checkout" button. I can regain the money in 2 paychecks. I just can't click it.
>>51889522
I believe in you. All it takes is a little willpower. You CAN do it. The only thing stopping you is your brain.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9gnJJx
>>51882047
220$
FOR
A FUCKING
960
I BOUGHT A 290X FOR 200$ ON EBAY
LMAO
>>51883478
you are a retard for suggesting a closed loop over air cooling
>>51883478
This failure rate bullshit has been disproven.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mbkPwP
R8 I guess. A build to replace my old Athlon 64 build.
>>51889694
xDDDDDDDDD
FUCKIN REKT NIGGA EBIN
FUCKIN
TOLD
GOT
EM
>>51889955
>memelake
>white cooler
>jesus
>>51890015
ebin
>>51890015
What's wrong with skylake? The white cooler? As you can tell, the PC is white.
>>51882047
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cLKbmG
10/10
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Zg8sdC
8/10
CPU is too weak.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QFQN8d
perfect
/10
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/bTffwP
Okay but i would add a fire pro instead for cad and such.
7/10
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9bNTGX
need just 2gb extra ram because igpu
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/w3ZDP6
okay i think but the igpu need a bit more ram for you can do everything use another 4gb DDR4
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/QDBqCJ
/10
R8
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xMT94D
It's being built for Adobe Creative Suite usage, gaming, sketchbook pro (cintique 13" HD), and general browsan.
>>51890275
ALSO solidworks
>>51887407
alright thanks mate
Please rate:
i5-6600
EKL Alpenföhn Ben Nevis
ASUS H170-Pro
some random 16GB DDR4-2133
Sapphire R9 290x Tri-X
Fractal Design Define R5
EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550 550W
Samsung SSD 850 Evo 250GB
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DW8wLk
I recently upgraded my PC to a Z97 motherboard with a 4690k OC'ed to 4.5 Ghz (from a 2500k with a faulty z77 mobo).
right now my temps are ok (65° under heavy load) but I'm afraid this OC will get way to hot once winter ends, should I get an H100 or more RAM to run my VM's and Bluestacks more smoothly?
what do you guys think?
>>51882047
I'm trying to help a friend build a computer, he got a gtx980 but it wont fit into his case because the HDD cage gets in the way. Is there any reason why we shouldn't just cut the cage out?
I need a new case and have come to two options so do i get a cm mastercase 5 pro or a be quiet silent base 800?
>>51892459
the mastercase is pretty nice
Tempted to get a nh-d14 but my motherboard has northbridge watercooling fittings. Wat do?
>>51892468
Alright, i'll get that, thanks for the input. Do you know if i can get any aftermarket sound dampening for it since i'm planning on crossfiring two r9 390s and i hear that they are jet engines or is it just a meme?
Which RAM should I get (2x8GB)?
>>51892511
depending on the cooler they can or can not be loud, check reviews. also you can change the fan speed to off when idle, ramping up steadily when you do more intensive things.
Check a guts thread, some builds use a black mat thing for the inside for noise isolation. the downside is it will be a little warmer inside the case.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8XxC7P
i am 300$ short
Should i get everything already except the graphics card? or just wait untill i have enough money?
So am I good with the stock heatsink fan on my i5 4690k?
I'm not OCing
>>51895870
personally I would do this m8 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xTHj6h
>>51895944
it will be fine but a little loud and hotter than a $25 212 EVO.
>>51885579
that board wont work with that aincent cpu
>>51887998
tell me sir, what is that case?
>>51896047
My case doesn't fit the 212 very well, so I'm trying to get away with no aftermarket cooler
>>51884842
Jesus I know it's your money but that's just wasteful
>>51884842
what do you need a soundcard for
How's this for a budget build? really unsure about the GPU but it was the best bang for the buck I could find. Constructive and destructive criticism is much appreciated.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gR7tzy
>>51896260
looks epic
>>51892144
If you're talking about the 200R, I remember whatching a video were they took it off, not sure if you can unscrew it or have to cut it, but I think it could be fitted on top no not loose the hdd slots
Look for 200R case mods
>>51884997
>51884997
He knows a few brands, speaks of their name and you shun him for it.
No the buyer of the build but I enjoyed reading his feedback. Unlike you, you're a filthy and straight out cunt. The scum of 4chan who offers nothing of value to the topics create on /g/.
For this chrismas can you please kill youself.
>>51896272
Pretty sure you're being sarcastic, but why?
>>51896260
get a better cpu or gpu instead of getting an ssd. Paying $65 for 120g is going to look embarassing next year in hindsight. Get a cheaper power supply.
>>51896344
Get rid of the 950 in favour of either a 960/380 and you're good to go.
>>51896344
I mean the 960 is like $15-20 more expensive than the 950 you've listed and has about 50% more performance.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx9602gd5toc
>>51896386
Thanks mate, will do, should I get the 2gb or the 4gb version of either? I'm planning to do some 1080 gayming and using madvr.
>>51896422
the 4gb version is a literal meme. The card has a 128 bit bus that simply cannot process more than 4gb.
Unless you can find the 4gb version for the same amount of money you should just go with the 2gb one.
>>51896437
more than 2gb*
>>51896404
more like %10
>>51896467
Meh 50% obviously is a bit too high but the 960 is a very clear upgrade over a 950, and absolutely worth $20 more.
>>51896260
Tbh Fa.m I would go for something like this >>51887407
>>51896528
>FX-6300
ZEN is just around the corner, why on earth would you still get a depreciated design?
>>51896480
If that were the case you just get a 380x
$150 950
$170 960
$180 380
$210 380x
>>51896537
you saying everyone should not build a pc right now because a new product may come out soon that 'might' be better.
Is an i5 really necessary for most things? I could potentially save a lot of money by just using the old q9550 from my last rig. I don't mind slower booting/loading as long as it doesn't bottleneck my games too badly.
>>51896557
He might as well should, my only point was that the 960 is a better purchase than a 950. The 380 on it's turn is a smarter purchase as well.
>>51896559
You and I fully understand the difference between intel releasing another generation of processors with ~5% increased performance and AMD renewing their architecture because Bulldozer kind of sucks.
Anyone wanna rate my cheap build?
Currently dealing with a laptop exchange situation so my main "rig" (AW 17 R3) is down for a month. Receiving a maxed out 17 R3 for my $842 scratch and dent 17 R2 from the dell outlet.
I rounded up these parts over time and will be getting the last piece in tomorrow.
i5-4590 - $100
Gigabyte G1 Ultra Durable Z97X-Gaming 3 Desktop Motherboard - $76
EVGA 750 B2 PSU - $44
DEEPCOOL KENDOMEN Red ATX Mid Tower - $39
TOSHIBA PH3200U-1I72 2TB 7200 RPM - $60
SanDisk X110 M.2 256GB SSD - $60
G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) - $55
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7970 DirectX 11.1 - $110 - Will flash to 280x OR OC to 280x levels. May crossfire with another.
Windows 10 - free
Total cost: $544
>>51882047
You could upgrade the graphics card to the gtx970 or gtx 980ti
Cpu is great pick I have the same.
Solid build,see if the gtx970 is worth it to you.
>>51896581
>q9550
Eh, thats 25% less powerful than a haswell i3.
A stock G3258 is the same power and could be overclocked highly.
Most haswell i5 are twice the power.
I wouldn't use it honestly.
>>51886231
>>51886231
Any more comments on this one?
Thanks!
>>51886231
>380x
lol. A 7970 or 280x is half the price and the same performance with a wider memory bus.
Also, you overpaid like hell on that PSU. Check out EVGA B stock.
>>51896705
I get that it's weak, it's really old after all, but I'm wondering how much that actually matters. This may be an outdated generalization, but I thought that you could get away with skimping on CPU because most games aren't very CPU-intensive.
>>51896832
replying to every single build with get a 7970, or r9 290 would get tiring after a while bro.
>>51896888
Yeah you might be ok in some games but you will suffer with something with that low of performance.
just get a decent i3 or something, most games want higher ipc than cores still.
>>51896933
This is the first time ive told anyone to get a 7970, I only say that because they are so cheap.
I dont see why in the world anyone ever would in 1 million years get what is essentially a re brand 7970.
Yeah you get some shiny new features but for most it doesnt matter.
Just get a cheap 7970 and overclock it and bam done your faster than a 380x.
>>51896319
>he defends the narrowminded viewpoint of someone telling him he only has a few options to consume.
yeah okay chief, i'll get right on that after you do sheeple. i added something of value by saying ram is a non issue buy from anyone. stop being angry someone called you out on your shilling.
/g/ents,
I want to upgrade my brother's rig without raping my wallet. 250~300 is what I'm willing to spend.
The current rig has a x4 965 (no oc'd) and a 7870.
What should the upgrade path be, if any?
microcenter has a $100 8320 which I could OC but I'm not sure how much he'll gain.
I /would/ like to upgrade from my 2500k/670 and then give him my old machine but my wallet can't support that right now.
I've had an Ivy Bridge i5 and a 6870 for a couple of years and was thinking of upgrading when the campaigns and shit between christmas and new year's.
I got a 7870 from my friend, and I'm not that fussy about performance from that, but I do stream quite a lot, and also do some video editing, so I'd like a decent CPU, what should I aim for? I'm also going to have to buy a new Motherboard so I'd love some tips on that too.
Since my salary isn't huge, I'd like the combined cost at ~400 dollars or so if possible.
Thanks a lot!
>>51897012
Hey retard, I am NOT Op.
I simply wanted to tell a cunt that he is a cunt.
Perhaps do it today. I can't wait for you to kill yourself on chrismas.
>>51896832
Thanks for the comments. 7970 seems to benchmark lower than the 380x in almost every case while using more power. And new it is the same price, and I wouldn't buy used AMD anymore since buttcoins.
I checked evga b stock, they don't have anything that could save me money. The lower priced psu they actually have in stock is not modular.
Thanks though!
>>51897038
>ivy i5
Unless you get an i7 you wont gain much.
>>51897044
I bought a refurb with warranty for $110, so to me, if I overclock it, will be a much better value than any new card. It uses more power sure but not a lot more. Probably because the memory bus is wider. After OC, it will be equal.
EVGA B stock is highly volatile, stock changes multiple times per day and some items only have 1 available. They've also had 780 Ti's for $199 that I sadly miss.
Im not really concerned about power consumption, if I was id go Nvidia for sure.
>>51897038
4790
>>51897013
I have an x4 on one of my comps and its definitely bottlenecking. OC 8320 would be a large upgrade and not that expensive. A used 2600k overclocked would also be reasonable at $250 with a board.
>>51897049
Is that so? I guess that's good news then! I think it's strange though, isn't there a difference between CPUs in the same series? I don't remember the numbers, but the one I have was the cheapest Ivy Bridge i5.
>>51897118
I'll take a look at that, thanks!
how is the asus maximus VIII ranger for overclocking and how is the onboard sound?
>>51897118
>A used 2600k overclocked
Nah, it doesnt make sense to upgrade to sandy bridge.
>>51897150
why?
>>51882463
Seagate is shit.
Upgrade to blueray player.
Noctuas are ugly but they work.
If you get that processor you better be overclocking.
>>51897218
Because its like 4 generations behind...
Doesnt make sense even if it is more powerful than what hes got.
Haswell stuff is cheap now.
>>51884842
This build is bad. You can do much better for the money.
>>51897253
Haswell is more expensive, its not a wrong choice but the age isn't a limitation in my reasoning. Theres nothing Haswell allows you to do that Sandy cant.
>>51882784
>Choosing Seagate over Western Digital
Do you value your Harddrive storage?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9NsfXL
Would love feedback on the CPU cooler, My budget is strictly 2k, I considered AIO, heard great things about the Cryorig I picked currently. Not switching the CPU or GPU at this point. Any advice on the case, mobo, maybe ram, and cpu cooler would be appreciated.
>>51889711
>"This failure rate bullshit has been disproven."
>Doesn't link any source to back up claim
It's okay to end your life at any point in time.
>>51895870
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XDcr4D
made some changes, still $250 short on cash, should i just buy all parts and save some more for a better GPU or just wait and buy everything together?
>>51897321
You shouldnt "upgrade" to obsolete hardware.
It just leads to issues. They dont make new motherboards, warranty support is non existent.... etc...
>>51897485
sorry, wrong link
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LRCc99
>>51897485
The cooler is fine, you could even get the h7. Get a 250g evo instead. Dump that overpriced 980 for the just as good zotac amp! Get a mouse that isn't shit.
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/FgBJJx
Not sure about the GPU, I think I will just get a used 750ti and wait for Pascal or even keep my 6870
>>51897682
i think your talking to the wrong anon
>>51897721
correct
meant for >>51897396
So is there any particular time that's actually good for buying PC parts anymore? This year's black friday weekend was complete shit so I'm at a bit of a loss on what to do.
>>51897682
Okay, will take all of that into consideration. I might be able to get the Hybrid for 680 Though and I think then I'd rather have it over the Zotac. Have yet to see as many positive reviews for the zotac. If I'm just planning on putting the OS and MAYBE a few apps on it, do I really need the 250g? I planned on getting a real mouse as well, this is just to have a complete build. Is there a significant performance difference with the h7 temperature wise? Also how much better/how comparable is it if I chose to do H100/H110i AIO instead.
>>51884842
I'll never understand these people who put together an expensive build and then use a shitty 1080p/60hz monitor....the days of casually picking a monitor are over, it's practically the most important part of a gaming build next to the GPU and influences your entire experience.
>>51897485
Why is that 390 so expensive, the normal price is like 320. This one is $160 cheaper here.
>>51897888
Also meant to ask about what good desktop speakers might be, and if I'm adding case fans which ones work best (if it's not all just up to aesthetics).
Is there a reason to even consider AMD chips at this point?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ty9L8d
Added the 212 evo because I planned on over clocking, but I don't know of the motherboard will handle it.
>>51897907
It's the outdated non-backplate version. Amazon increases their prices based on stock so naturally the version being phased out is more expensive. He should just buy it from Newegg honestly. Amazon will likely charge $20 in taxes for the correct version (that's $329) which makes it more expensive than the $334 Newegg charges.
Sapphire is objectively the best version outside of size. The XFX has worse temps and the clockspeed isnt that much better out the box.
>>51887951
Here is my mini ITX build. I want something pretty efficient, upgradeable and future proof. It is probably 50% gaming 50% school work
pcpartpicker.com/p/3RR8pg
>>51897888
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9NsfXL
The difference is about 2 degrees under full load OC. H100 will be about 5 degrees cooler than that, but they are all far below thermal throttling anyway.
If you play any games then then just pay the extra $15 for the 250g. Putting them on there will speed up heavy load times like world of warcraft and dragon age inquisition.
>>51898015
Yes, supporting a company that isn't actually full of straight criminals with anti-consumer mindsets.
>>51898143
Too bad morals dont = decent IPC.
>>51897716
>>51897716
>>51897716
please respond fäm
>>51898163
Well, thats like, your opinion man.
I am using an 8350 and a 380X, running all my games on ultra and the entire Adobe Suite on the daily with no issues.
>>51898227
While using twice the power of a comparable Intel/Nvidia system.
>>51898243
While thats true, the trade off is up to you.
Personally, it isn't worth it to me.
You are absolutely right, though.
I built an i5+960 rig that absolutely crushed my AMD build in terms of efficiency, for a customer.
>>51898035
>I don't know of the motherboard will handle it.
extremely unlikely.
>>51898321
>Personally, it isn't worth it to me.
What's the advantage of using AMD if the Intel is objectively better?
>>51898353
I already said why here:
>>51898143
I will never actually notice any real life performance differences between an i5 and an 8350, and will pay less for the 8350, so I just went with it because I did not want to support Intel and their business methods.
>>51898353
it's cheaper
>>51898182
750 is barely better than a 6870 and a waste of money.
960 is shitty anyway get a 390 or wait unless theres something you really want to play out.
I dont like that mobo, its got shit features and old audio for that price point. Pay a little more and get a krait or something.
>>51882047
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6VT7t6 rate my rig, niggies. it's mainly for programming and light gamen.
>>51898505
looks epic
>>51882047
Hey, that's my case.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KCcr4D
Thoughts? Moving from an H440. The motherboard should be arriving momentarily, everything else is here.
>>51897485
does anyone have a recommendation for a gpu cooler?
the store where i'm getting my components doesn't have any cryrorig products
>>51898602
Do you mean cpu? Cryorig don't make any gpu cooling products.
>>51898602
GPU cooler? Are you sure you don't mean CPU?
>>51898632
>>51898628
yeah i meant cpu kek
>>51898663
In that case, Noctua and Phanteks are also good options. The Cooler Master Hyper 212 is the budget option, it'll get the job done.
>>51898663
If you are going for a single tower cooler they are mostly all the same - its the fan that is the deciding factor. Still a K chip means overclocknig and TDP quickly rises.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RZmj6h
starting from scratch, sold my xbone and a few things before I moved.Pretty new to this, let me know what you guys think.
>>51899180
Ditch the 970 for a 390.
>>51899273
See I've always heard that they have a lot of issues with consistency and crashing. I'm one of those people that would easily trade consistency for performance. Is this mostly people just talking out of their ass, or have you had any major issues?
>>51899347
You've heard or have found actual evidence of? It is an important distinction given the sheer amount of shitposting that goes on on /g/.
>>51899414
No just heard and read tons of reviews, but I can never seem to get a straight answer or anything besides anecdotal evidence. Another thing people bring up is the customer service aspect. These are all just from reviews on various websites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9cKZiJw6Pk
>>51899523
thanks mane
>>51898353
Unless you're a gaymer why would you go Intel?
>>51887784
Here's the changes that i would do:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Vc9L8d
>>51899347
AMD has driver issues with new GPUs this is true, but after the initial issue with Crimson killing cards (which Nvidia is guilty of too) it's a pretty solid GPU, TDP notwithstanding.
>Another thing people bring up is the customer service aspect.
That's up to the manufacture. Fun fact: Gigabyte and MSI make AMD and Nvidia cards so their service will be the same. Sapphire's support is supposedly crap because they source it out though.
>>51900100
Crimson didn't kill a single card beyond maybe, MAYBE that one dude ranting on twitter trying to get a free RMA by using crimson as an excuse.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9VKGpg
This build wont fuck me over will it?
>>51900147
I'd do your research to make sure that psu is a good one, because 450w isn't a great number all told and a shit one could really ruin your day.
>>51900147
>4690K
>H81
Why? Also, spending on high on GPU and CPU and cheap out on everything else is not a good idea. People not even consider airflow an important thing, they just straight up go to GPU and CPU.
>>51897252
Did you even open the link? No seagate, no player at all.
>>51900223
>>51900245
Alright, ill take these into consideration and make some adjustments.
>>51900245
Airflow is a nonfactor. My machine runs underwater.
It's been about a week of planning and switching but this is I am 99% my final build
>>51900413
Expensive as all fuck/10. Seriously do you remotely need a 5930k?
>>51900403
I came from a time where water and electronic devices didn't mix very well, kids are brave these days
>>51899706
Uhh not to start a debate but Intel has much higher IPC making it better in everything pretty much.
I think the only time those "8 core" AMD chips are even competitive is in highly multithreaded apps.
Can an mATX fit into an ATX ?
>>51900437
not yet :^)
No seriously though I also work with ArcGIS, it will come in handy. MOstly it's just futureproofing though
I got it for $400 at microcenter, $10 more expensive than a 5920k
>>51900413
What are you using it for that you need a 5930k and an expensive as fuck motherboard?
>only storage is one 500GB SSD
>>51900413
Far too expensive, lots of expensive name brand stuff there.
You dont need that expensive CPU. Save a few hundred and get a 4 core i7 and a cheaper mobo.
also, theres no way you need a PSU thats $160 + just get a refurb on the EVGA B stock site for $60 or so.
>>51900508
>used psu
>>51900480
Well find me a 8 ram slot quad channel support 3.1 USB x99 mobo with 4x16 PCIe for cheaper
>implying I will never get more storage
>>51900466
If you even remotely understood half of the words you typed you would not have posted.
>>51900508
"Too expensive" isn't a valid point, I can afford it and that's pretty much that
Just get this TBHJ senpai http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-q1900m
>>51900413
>no m.2 drive
lmao 2012 up in here
>>51900550
Ok? So like any person with a lot of disposable income you just throw it away on the most expensive shit you can find.
So typical.
That build shouldnt be over $1500-1600.
But hey, if you want to pay full price for shit whatever then.
>>51900522
Its a refurb and the fuck does it matter? EVGA makes decent PSU....
I dont see how you could justify $170 on a god damn PSU.
You DONT NEED a fucking platinum PSU other than for dick waving contest needs....
>>51900584
jelly poorfag detected
>>51900603
buying a cheap PSU is probably the stupidest thing you could ever do
Have fun frying your entire rig because you bought some preused garbage
>>51900603
>You DONT NEED a fucking platinum PSU other than for dick waving contest needs....
The higher your total system draw and/or time spent at 100% load the more relevant a platinum and titanium rating becomes. For typical usage it does not matter, but if one is spending 2 thousand burgers on a machine they should be intending to hammer their hardware and thus psu ratings become a factor.
>>51900616
If you're just spending extra money to spend money, why aren't you getting a dual CPU motherboard and quad titans?
>>51900645
So now an EVGA Supernova(750 watt , $60) is cheap?
Just because you can get a good deal on something doesnt make the hardware shit dumbass.
>>51900657
because dual CPUs actually doesn't do anything for gaming you dumbass
>>51900650
He not being to be running it at the limit, its fine if he had bronze.
>>51900705
yeah, it is cheap, and not what I need in a rig like that especially when I will be adding another GPU later
>>51900742
Ok then, heres a platinum since your so autistic about it.
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=220-PS-1000-RX
$65 less AND an extra 150 watts.
>>51900715
Neither does a 6 core processor. Games are still barely using 4 cores and even less use HT.
>>51900742
Also heres a 500 gb SSD for $87.
http://slickdeals.net/f/8378475-crucial-mx200-500gb-ssd-sata-2-5-on-jet-com-100-13-for-one-or-195-14-for-two-97-57-each-even-less-with-amex-87-57ea?v=1&src=pdw
There I just saved you $125.
>>51900778
The point you should be looking at is that some games DO use HT. It is obviously going to be used more in the future
>>51900796
Cool, so you found a flash deal for today and claim I'm overspending all over the place
>>51900838
Uh, this isnt a flash deal, research and you'll see SSD deals like this almost every day.
Holy shit dude, I've critiqued TWO of your components and managed an upgrade AND $125 of savings.
You shouldn't be allowed near any sum of money.
>>51900811
>Futureproofing
Save your money and buy a good HT CPU when HT is actually widely used. By that time we'll have better CPUs than Haswell and Skylake for mainstream users at similar prices.
The point is he's paying a much higher premium for a feature RIGHT NOW he's not going to see much, if any, benefit from when it comes to gaming. There's no reasonable reason for him to pay that much for the CPU and motherboard when a 4690k or a 4790k will do just as good as a much lower price. If he wants to waste money fine, but don't act like it's a good decision because of "futureproofing".
If i'm not overclocking, will I be fine with the stock Intel heatsink?
Also, why do some people put the PSU fan facing up? Any benefit?
>>51900873
Hyperthreading will never be a sure thing - even for non vidya workloads that love cpu resources hyperthreading can give negative scaling. Hyperthreading is no replacement for more cpu cores.
>>51900911
>If i'm not overclocking, will I be fine with the stock Intel heatsink?
Yes, youll be fine.
