are WD greens the best compromise of price/reliability/size for secondary internal harddrive?
only 2 year warranty are a bit shitty. even seagate gives 3...
what does /g/ think?
>>51880778
that depends on what EXACTLY you will be using it for.
>>51880896
highres movies, pdfs, high res pics, mp3
>>51880916
will you be archiving stuff on this drive, or accessing it all the time?
They're alright.
It's a hard drive, dude.
Says me, being condescending of the fucking magic that goes on inside.
the greens are good for archiving and infrequent access. for this usage case they are great for the price. if you'll be accessing the drive often, you may want to opt for the red for better performance. if you're really stuck on price, go for the green and just don't use it as a system drive.
>>51880935
accessing it from time to time. watch movies from listen mp3 etc
Are we ever going to get 8TB greens?
>>51881005
the greens might be good. i have a bunch of greens and the only time i've seen issues with watching movies is a little stutter at the beginning. that's only when i'm connecting to my home server. when i used the greens as a regular external hard drive, i saw no issue. the absolute worst thing to do with this drive is to use it as a system drive. it's good for anything else but that.
>>51880778
Pay out the extra cash for a WD blue. Greens are meant prinarily for archival. Meaning to be written to, and only read off of occasionally. Not to mention they're overall usually slower than a Blue or comparable Toshiba/Seagate drive.
If you're talking 1-2TB drive, just get whatever is cheapest. Pretty much every drive compnlany has mastered up to 2TB. Stay away from 3 and 5 TB drives like the plague. They have the highest failure rates. Currently the Toshiba 4TB drive is the BEST bang for buck. 4TB, 7200rpm, 128mb cache. I get sustained 175mB/s write speed for large transfers. I currently have it as a homemade external backup.
I also have 2x WD blue drives and 2x Seagate 1TB drivesin RAID 10.
Also a Seagate 2TB. All ofbthese drives are in daily active use and have never had problems.
Lastly, avoid Seagate 8TB disks and if you have the cash, 6TB drives from HGST or WD black series are great just stupid money right now.
>>51881076
umm... dude, the blues are at the bottom of the wd hierarchy. they're not meant for anything important. greens are good for archiving. reds are good for nas usage. purples are good for stuff like surveillance. black is good for any and all of these usage cases.
I use a couple of 3TB reds as a file server storage location.
They hold lots of data and are being read from almost constantly all day but only in brief short spurts for small amounts of data.
works bretty good
>>51881137
did you read that off the wd website or something lolz.
>>51881137
I know what each color is for. From personal experience, greens are slower at everything. Wd blues are faster at writing/reading, have a longer warranty, and are only like $5 more than a green
This was when the 1tb cersion of each drive released originally. Unless they've changed it. I just remember my 1tb wd green being slow as shit for large sustained writes. Would go down to 75mB/s on a sata 3 connection conpared to my Blues that do 125mB/s+
>>51881137
>umm
if you going to counter someone else's statement 'umm' is the worst way to start.
im not >>51881076, you just pulled my trigger
>>51881334
honestly, the last time i really looked into it was when the 1tb drives were still new. it held true for the 2tb drives too. all that went out the window with the 3tb greens being the shittiest 3tb drives out there. might be fixed for the larger drives though.
>>51881334
but i heard greens are the most reliable since cooler/slower etc
>>51881466
Exactly why it was done. Had a shitty start and still countered it properly.
I had one die in just a few months. Started making terrible noises and WD wouldn't replace it.
>>51881334
blues are shit for reliability. greens are not. that is if we pretend the 3tb drives don't exist.
>>51881561
was it still within warranty?
>>51881542
>Exactly
HOLY SHIT ARE WE THE FUCKING YOUTUBE COMMENTS? WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THESE FECESBOOK! HOLY SHIT!1!
Greens still exist? I thought WD was making the entire line Blue.
>>51881606
you certainly sound like it. you gonna talk hard drives or what?
>>51881561
>mfw wd replaced a black for me that was making typical black popcorn noises and they extended the warranty by an additional two years
You just have to know how to talk to these people.
I've gotten seagate to warranty drives that were OUT of warranty.
[spoiler] I'm a salesperson btw, talking people into doing shit they don't want to is kinda my bread and butter ;^)[/spoiler]
In the market for some HDDs for a home plex/media server I'm building. Is the Toshiba 4gb hard drive is a good start? At the moment I can really only afford one HDD at the moment.
>>51881630
link?
>>51881537
Specs wise they're the same as a wd blue. 64mb cache, 7200rpm, but they dont do as fast sustained writes or reads. Theyre built to slow down for sustained anything which coyld theoretically lead to a longer life span.
That said, sounds like bullshit to me. Unless your hard drive is running at 42C+, hdd temp dont mean a damned thing. Case in point, my case has almost nonexistent airflow. My 4 drives in RAID 10 easily hit 36-39C when under heavy write loads. One of the drives in the array is an old sata 2 seagate 1TB that was several years old when I got it from a friend let alone the work I use it for.
Simply put, wd greens used to be much cheaper than the blue and black drives. Usually by $20 or so cheaper. Now they're at most $5 cheaper than the blue drive. Ill take blue>green anyday just because it is faster. The days of worrying extensively about hdd temps is gone. Right along with people who would buy WD 10k raptors. Pretty much any drove on the market runs cool. Unless it is defective, or you live in hell itself.
>MFW I only buy greens and just run widdle.exe on em.
>>51881657
not sure about toshiba. read a shit ton of reviews and see what you find. also, always pay attention to the negative ones, even if only one.
>>51881633
7200rpm wd greens work as good as 7200rpm wd blus
most/all currently sold wd greens are 5400rpm
wd greens exceed 2tb, wd blus do not
good enough?
>>51881681
there are blues and greens that run at 5400 rpm.
>>51881659
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=780
We are making changes to simplify the hard drive selection process for our customers by consolidating our mainstream PC product offerings to only the WD Blue family.
All current WD Green capacity, cache and form-factor configurations will remain available through their lifecycle, but under the WD Blue brand*. Although WD Green hard drives are part of a new family, they're still the same reliable hard drive you've grown to know and love over the years.
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=770#Tab8
>>51881681
oh. also the new blues come with between 8 and 64 mb cache, whereas the greens just have 64.
>>51881657
I gotbthe Toshiba 4TB in an external enclosure for backup purposes. Runs cool, fast, and the only 4TB drive that has 128mB cache. Everyone else on the 4TB market is only 64mB. 175-200mB/s sustained write speeds. Cant speak for read speeds but fast enough for no stutter or delay when reading. Got it from Microcenter for $120
>>51880778
omg its true...
they merged green with blue for maximum confusion.
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=770#Tab8
>>51881711
for now.
>>51881767
bought some wd's the other day, just read the box t b h
>>51881735
thanks. so does this mean an improvement to the blue family? the way it's worded, doesn't sound like a downgrade for the greens.
>>51881744
that's not a bad price for a drive that size.
Most of the greens I've purchased have failed, it took far too long for me to learn the lesson.
Anything but green.
And for fucks sake check the idle3 shit out before putting into use.
>>51881076
>>51881334
>>51881572
>This was when the 1tb version of each drive released originally. Unless they've changed it. I just remember my 1tb wd green being slow as shit for large sustained writes. Would go down to 75mB/s on a sata 3 connection conpared to my Blues that do 125mB/s+
Those are the old 7200rpm Blues which were almost as good as Blacks, the new Blues are rebranded greens with slightly different firmware. The model numbers should be a hint:
WD40EZRZ
WD40EZRX
Guess which is Blue and which is Green? DOESN'T MATTER, IT'S THE SAME SHIT. Same internals, different firmware settings (which you can do with WDIDLE anyway). In my country they're exactly at the same price.
>>51881836
>Anything but green.
The old WD10EARS green everyone talked shit about because of the head parking crap turned out to be surprisingly reliable. But that's when WD was still good, now they're just slightly above Seagate.
>>51881836
were they the 3tb greens?
>>51881692
>>51881744
There's one on Amazon for $120 as well, it looks pretty good. Is there a better option for what I'm looking to accomplish? I'm not really a great judge of hard drives.
>>51881894
my 1 and 2 tb greens have been with me for years and not even a hint of failure. got both when they were new. the only thing that has lasted longer for me is my 300gb black which is over a decade old.
>>51881817
Thats what I said. Everything else on the 4TB market is like $160+ and looking at reviews, the Toshiba keeps pace with and beats the 4TB wd black.
As for longetivity I really cant say as I've only owned this drive for maybe 1.5 months. But when I bought it, I formatted it, and wrote 1.6TB worth of stuff to it. Not a hiccup and it peaked at 205mB/s write for some of the time. Peaked at 38C during this time. Granted my enclosure has a fan.
All in all well worth the cash Imo. Eyeing up an HGST 6TB next. Reviews on it are great and it says up to 250mB/s sustained write and 175mB/s read.
>>51881900
one 1TB and one 2TB, both 3.5", both brand new (apparently).
One just started suffering from confusingly horrible write errors but I wiped the drive, won't use it now though, brick.
The other will not even interface anymore and to my knowledge still has the contents on it. It served as a low mileage storage drive in my NAS for long term storage.
Both actually served long term purposes.
I blame the head parking myself, didn't know to correct it.
This was 2-3 years ago.
You people don't know shit
Join the 10k master race, western digital velociraptor or bust.
>>51882016
>Bunch of disk noise
>Runs hot unless you got the heatsink caddy. Even then you need a little airflow
>Still slower by a shit ton than an ssd
>Performance and capacity are shit per dollar compared to ssd and 7200rpm hdd
Yea nah. Its a shit. Maybe if their 1tb models were cheaper sure.
>>51882016
I own a 10k drive, loved it when I got it in 2009. But these days SSDs wipe the floor with the entire range, there's just no point in mechanicals for system drives anymore.
>>51882016
This. ssd for os and high use programs,
velociraptor for games, and regular 7200 mechs for mass storage.
>not exclusively getting HGST
>>51882062
>be me
>buy western digital velociraptor
>runs cooler than my other six drives
>love the noise. muh mechanical master race breh
>got it for 80$ 5 years ago.
5/7, I would say.
>>51882087
>velociraptor for games, and regular 7200 mechs for mass storage
2/10
Almost got me there
>>51882100
>>>51882062 (You)
>>be me
>>buy western digital velociraptor
>>runs cooler than my other six drives
>>love the noise. muh mechanical master race breh
>>got it for 80$ 5 years ago.
>5/7, I would say.
Yea I guess. Before ssds became mainstream I was contemplating getting a 600gb raptor. But now the price of a 1tb raptor is like $200. A 1tb 850 evo ssd could be had for $275. Almost 4x faster read/write using less power, making less heat and no noise. Unless youre getting a raptor for dirt cheao somewhere, theyre just not a worthy investment anymore.
>>51882091
I would if I could man, HGST don't sell directly to consumers, and there are no distributors in my country.
I could import, but then it would cost me twice as much as a competing product from WD, and if I need to activate warranty I'd be in for some serious fucking pain in the ass.
It ends up being more efficient to simply go for something cheaper and keeping backups, which I'd do anyway.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00D02413M?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
I got these WD greens, did I mess up or am I ok? I'm only going to use it to storage anime, music and pictures.
This is my only HDD, 2 TB WD Green, have it for a few years.
Health Status "Good"
When should be the time for a new drive?
>>51882824
When your old one is not large enough
Seriously, I even have a 25 year old seagate which still works
>>51882100
i have been using raptors since the original 36 gig 1st generation, which i still have and still works.
ive got a 36, 150, and now i am on a 500 gig and i still love them. they are without a doubt the best WD and possibly the best consumer spinning drive you can get when it comes to reliability. they run cold, they are MUCH quieter than they used to be.
if you dont like the sound of a raptor accessing the disk, you dont like computers. the issue with those drives used to be the noise from the spinning, and holy shit what a sound it used to make, but now they are quiet when idle
>>51883202
I never understood their idea being the icepack, guess it works fine as a 3.5 inch adapter.
>>51883284
its great, because the drive itself is so small and these things are designed for desktops only, might as well slap a huge heatsink onto it.
>>51880983
>>51881070
>>51881076
>>51881334
>>51881681
Greens are identical except for power saving features. They constantly turn themselves off and park. Good for energy but can cause performance issues and premature failure since they're only rated for a certain number.
You can change them to not behave this way and get basically a cheap version of a black.
>>51880778
It's good for long-term storage. You could find far better hard drives though if you want a top-of-the-line computer though.
They nerfed all the Blue Caviars this year, they either dropped the RPM to 5400 or gutted the onboard cache down to 32/16MB
>>51885797
Well of course, they want to sell the blacks somehow. :^)
what has happened to the times when WD stood for no bullshit quality and reliabilty.
>>51886287
This is what happens when the competition is Seagate, and almost non-existent Toshiba.
HGST is owned by WD, They effectively own half the market.
>>51885797
>tfw WD blue is usually 40% more expensive than green in Brazil
>>51886498
You might as well just get a Green and disable headparking then.
I've had greens for years now, even in my server running 24/7, and not a single one of them has died. Only one of them has errors in the smart log and that was caused by a faulty sata cable.
>>51881842
>WDIDLE
I believe that even the WD Reds are rebranded Greens. Not the Red Pros though, those are more in line with the Blacks.
Use WDIDLE to crank the idle timeout to max or infinity and they actually make decent NAS/server drives.
>>51887214
>I believe that even the WD Reds are rebranded Greens
Probably share most of the components, yeah. But the blues and greens don't have the variable speed spindle WD likes to call "IntelliPower", or the internal anti-vibration "dual plane" whatchamacallit. The firmware is different as well, the reds (and purples) have TLER.
That's why they cost more.
>>51886524
>>51886498
>>51885797
The EZEX Blue is 7200RPM 64MB cache and can be found everywhere for $50 bucks. I saw a $200 5TB Black on Newegg that is a better deal though.
>>51880778
bought one of those and it came to me partially functional. want to blame UPS shipping but you never know. it would die and drop out of existence often. glad i was careful enough not to write original data to it. had to RMA that shit. really hope newegg didn't send that thing to some other sucker.
had a 2tb green that lasted like four years. survived heavy/constant data writes like a champion and started fucking up about six months ago. in comparison to other drives i've owned it lasted just as long, but that's nothing to base a purchase on. you can get a good drive based on its features alone. reliability is a lottery factor.
All WD Greens are now being rebranded as Blue's by WD. Check their website if you don't believe me.
Basically there were no blues really. It's all marketing.
Help me out /g/. I've been racking my head about this for a while. Which drives would be best for a 6-8gig RAID1 setup?
>>51889912
WD purple
>>51880778
I don't trust shorter warranties.
Basically the way a company decides the length of a warranty, they find out how long let's say 95% of the drives should be expected to function properly and then set the warranty date to that.
Therefore a product with a shorter warranty, they expect to live less long.
>>51889937
>WD purple
> Surveillance
Why do you mock me anon
>>51889808
>buys from newegg
>surprised by a DOA
Hahahaha. It's not just UPS, and it's definitely not just you. Their user reviews on ANY hard drive are filled with fucking DOA reports.
>>51890100
The surveillance drives are pretty much Reds optimized for frequent sequential writing. If you'd like a chinese cartoon storage drive, they'll do the job.
No, get blues or blacks, greens are shit and slow, also enjoy head parking. Reds if you're archiving shit.
>>51891321
Blues = Greens now, do keep up.
>>51891337
They are not, sorry.
>>51891345
BTFO
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=780
>>51891345
>They are not
You sure? Check out this benchmark:
http://hdd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/WD-Blue-1TB-2012-vs-WD-Blue-1TB-2015/1779vs3520
>>51891392
WD stitching up consumers as per usual I see. Well fuck them I will go with HGST/Toshiba instead.
I was going to buy a Green 3TB a couple weeks ago when it was $85, but I waited too long and now it is $110. I ended up getting a Seagate 4TB for $115 instead. At first I was worried because I've heard Seagate wasn't very good, but apparently their 4TB are more reliable than the 3TB.
In a month or so I'll buy another one and use to back up the first one. I didn't think I should buy both at the same time.
>>51880778
the green drives are best for storing dank memes, the blue drives are best for storing hot porn, and the black drives dont work
>>51891392
So are the new blues actually green drives rebranded as blues and slower than the old blues? If this is the case WD can go fuck themselves.
What drive should I get if it's being used strictly for rarely accessed archival purposes
>>51891392 #
>WD stitching up consumers as per usual I see. Well fuck them I will go with HGST/Toshiba instead.
> HSGT
> HSGT - a Western Digital company
>>51880778
Greens are shite. Go red.
>>51881137
WD blues are fine for archiving. They are the baseline units.
You could use all blues for everything and never run into issues.
>>51891943
Not for everything. The blues are rated for 8h/day workloads and have no TLER, putting them in a RAID would be inadvisable for much the same reasons as greens.
It's a fucking crime what WD did to the Blue line.
Pic related is an old 1TB Blue drive BEATING a modern 4TB Black.
>>51880778
after all the shit iam reading here iam about to buy a different brand of HD...
jesus fuck WD...
>>51889877
Blues with the EZEX model name appear to be the old ones though.
>>51880778
I have 4 wd greens. They are good for media storage but that's it. Way to slow if you want to work on the hdd (writing and reading a lot).
