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How many of you use it for programming or in general, and how is it? I know its bad, and shit. But I'm thinking of getting a prescription since its really easy to obtain here in the states.
Get 200mg of provigil/nuvigil. It's like adderrall, but smoother and not basically a controlled form of meth.
I thought the big thing in silicon valley for programming was micro-lsd doses these days.
>>51871745
>since its really easy to obtain here in the states
The doctor will kuk you with the good ole "try getting good sleep and studying". Also the queues for the ADHD docs are usually over six months.
Try benzedrex, realize that stims will make you jack off and touch your face and go back to coffee.
pls post more alternatives to adderall because what >>51871792
said is true. You can't get prescribed dick all for adderall unless you're a 6 year old with an imagination.
Drugs are not just bad short term but long term as well. Just stick to eating more fish/chicken to help your fuel your brain with enough proteins and getting enough sleep. Usually people don't eat enough proteins or get enough sleep and as a result feel like shit all day long. Your body doesn't like it when it has to eat itself to supply it's important organs with proteins or when it doesn't get enough sleep.
If you're still in school and have an adderall prescription you should be selling that shit. If you get an upgrade to vyvanse that goes for 6-7$ a pill on my campus.
Unless you are doctor, pharmacist, or good friends with one of the above, it's not really easy enough to come by for regular use. As a booster for exam weeks or to meet that vital deadline, sure, it works.
>>51871792
>"try getting good sleep and studying".
Also, fuck this, sleep is for people who don't have deadlines.
Seriously though, don't do drugs. They're never worth it in the end. You'll become dependent on them to function and fuck up your brain/liver for life.
I'm prescribed adderall and vyvanse. Shit is cash.
It's so easy to get a script, my doc gave me a script for 50mg of Vyvanse AFTER I told her both my father and grandfather had stimulant addictions. I don't know what this 6 month queue shit is (sounds like socialist UK fuckery)
>>51871927
>I don't know what this 6 month queue shit is (sounds like socialist UK fuckery)
Nope, just your average US campus.
>>51871873
What strength? I got kids paying 10 to 20 kek
I'm in college and a friend was telling its really fucking easy to get a prescription. Is that shit true?
>>51871949
70mg, I know my dealer pretty well so he might just cut me slack on the price.
>>51871946
Damn that sucks I got in through my school shrink pretty fast but I was depressed as fuck because of school, maybe I got fast tracked or something.
>>51871828
God, you're a faggot
>>51871950
Depends on the doctor. I went through 4 months of tests because my doctor wanted to be sure I have ADHD.
>>51871962
> being the faggot friend who tries to leverage his friendship against your profit margins
This us why I keep my dealing a secret from my friends.
>>51871987
What steps do I take to get my hands on a prescription? I've got insurance and am in Cali if that matters.
try modafinil
>needing drugs to be good at programming
All you're ultimately doing is fucking yourself over in the end
>>51872004
I don't ask for discounts, he tells me what to pay and I do.
My father prescribed that shit for me after a horrendous first semester. The amount of work I did felt like cheating, so I dropped it halfway the second semester and graduated fine with a double on maths and comp. sci.. I'm working a baby's first actuarial job as an Excel slave and I really hate it. The pay, however, is very good.
>>51871828
>Drugs are not just bad short term but long term as well
Everything after this is 100% bullshit.
>>51872045
>having a balanced diet is bullshit
Better let every doctor on earth know that they're wrong and you know better
>>51871745
I like to get down and mellow for programming usually instead of up.
>>51872016
I'm not really sure. I was already talking to a therapist and I legitimately have ADHD. Probably the most important thing I said was that I feel like I'm trapped and no matter how hard I try, I'm not getting the grades I want.
I've been diagnosed with ADD since I was 5 years old. So I've been off and on adderall all my life. Right now I'm taking 50mg a day. Yet I still have issues staying focused.. Either way I wouldn't suggest taking it unless you have too. I have dry mouth most of the day and usually brutal headaches towards the end of the day. But it's worth it since it basically keeps me being a functional part of society at my job.
>>51872069
>no matter how hard I try, I'm not getting the grades I want.
Maybe you're just dumb
>>51872063
>eating fish & chicken = having a balance diet
kill yourself dyel fagit
>>51872081
that guy said more fish and chicken, not exclusively fish and chicken
>reading is hard
>apparently that's why you need adderall to function
>>51871745
>>51871745
>doing drugs to "become more intelligent"
/g/ is more retarded than I though
>>51872079
No, because I have a 4.2 GPA now. Drugs are good.
>>51872092
>hurr fuel your brain with protons xD
>>51872099
>4.2 GPA
4chan is an 18+ board
>>51872079
nah, you know if you're just dumb. It feels like you know there's a problem, but you can't fix it. Like being under a sheet of ice with no way to get through it.Like there's a literal block in the middle of your head, and you just push against it all day.
I get 90 10mg pills of adderall and 30 5mg pills of dexedrine a month.
Usually only take 10mg to replace coffee but when I take my actual prescribed dose, oh man I'm a work machine.
>>51871792
Benzedrex is fucking horrible for you. Really bad shit all around.
>>51872017
Modafinil does nothing for you cognitive abilities. It just keeps you awake.
What steps do I take to get a prescription?
>>51872113
Thank you for understanding
>>51871873
Tis the season
to make bank
>>51872081
He was referring to protein intake which actually is a fucking problem for many people. When your body doesn't get enough protein it's forced to extract it from muscles which makes you weaker over time and causes headaches/feeling tired all the time.
Most people should be eating 60-80 grams of proteins daily but they don't.
>>51872116
>he thinks high school GPA counts
lmfao
also reported for underage.
>>51871828
anon, you couldn't be more right.
>>51872138
Do you have any studies that say this? The not enough protein is a protein supplement company meme to get you to be a good goy.
>>51871946
Yeah try going literally one town over and I promise you'll schedule an appointment within the week and walk out with a script that day.
>>51871745
Adderall is an amphetamine, amphetamines can cause amphetamine psychosis, not pretty man. Ritalin is not an amphetamine, it is a CSN stimulant, and produces the same effects with out the potential to cause psychosis. SO if you trully need this medication Id go with ritalin. BUT if your just some asshole who thinks that it will give you an edge fuck off and drink some coffee, save the medication for those who need it. Source: me, I have been prescribed to every major stimulant, adderall, dexedrine, ritalin, and all the weird ones like stratera, for the last 13 years. I have also taken these as prescribed and recreationally.
>>51872140
How am I underage if I turned 18 in October?
>>51871774
Don't spread false information. Modafinil and its derivatives are wakefulness agents. Although they can aid in focus, they're primarily useful for staying awake and alert. It is not similar to meth in the way you are implying. Adderall is amphetamine, Meth refers to methamphetamine which is also available as a prescription for ADHD. Do some research and talk with your doctor to find out the best course of action for you.
>>51871902
>not doing drugs
>>51872154
>the not enough protein is a protein supplement company meme to get you to be a good goy
Who the fuck is saying you should eat some supplement? Just eat some meat and put down the mountain dew
>>51872078
You need to start pounding water and forcing yourself to eat way more. I have these same issues.
>>51872113
Many dumb people don't know they're dumb
I remember when I did adderall in middle school/high school. It just didn't have an affect on me that much, if at all. I remember going to the doctor after I had taken about 450 mg (didn't tell her I did though) and asking her about it, she said 450 mg would kill someone.
>>51872194
I'm saying people get plenty of protein. The not enough protein thing is a fucking meme to get you to buy things that have the protein buzzword all over the package.
>>51872194
Mountain dew + adderall
ISHYGDDT
>>51872233
I think you are vastly underestimating how awful the typical person's diet is.
>>51872154
Not that anon but most people need around 60g of protein a day. The usual equation I see is .4g of protein for every 1 pound of body weight, or .60 per pound for athletes or body builders.
>>51871902
>Seriously though, don't do drugs. They're always worth it in the end. You'll become smarter, stronger, happier and if you aren't a nignog you won't fuck up your brain/liver for life.
>>51872169
Fuck ritalin man. That shit made me depressed for the majority of childhood. I got switched to adderall in high school and it's a million times better.
>>51872104
>implying your brain isn't made of proteins
>>51871805
coffee, monster, soda, yerba mate, sleep, exercise, and a good diet. you anit gunna get perscribed shit if your 18+ and going to a doctor the first time "umm i just cant fokus durrr hurr", this anit 2002 anymore they dont just hand that shit out like kandy, oh op is a fag and this thread is trash
>>51872169
Fuck off idiot, psychosis is a risk of extended Ritalin use as well. CNS stimulant, not CSN, which all of these things are as well, except for Strattera. Don't spread misinformation. Literally two seconds in Google.
>>51872175
For real, drugs are technology.
>>51872216
your doctor was full of shit, lethal dose is >1000mg
That said, 450mg is a shit ton and that could very likely fuck something up in your body. Won't kill you though.
>>51872154
http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/health-fitness/healthy-eating/know-your-nutrients/do-americans-eat-too-much-protein?page=all
http://www.webmd.com/diet/healthy-kitchen-11/how-much-protein
lol
>>51872169
>amphetamine psychosis
the voices say nice things things to me :-D
>>51872243
>>51872244
Unlike you neckbeards, I actually lift (*fedora tip*)
Consuming 60g of protein in a day is extremly easy to achieve. The only people not getting that are literally eating cheetos and mountain dew for all 3 meals. If you eat anything even somewhat resembling actual food reglardless of where yo uget it from you should be hitting that much protein.
>>51872216
450mg would kill someone, you're not fooling anyone.
>>51871791
>micro-lsd doses
I'm so curious about this.
>>51872288
A big mac only gives you 26g of protein. You're right that it isn't hard to eat 60g of protein a day, but many people do not
>>51872289
It wouldn't kill someone, but it probably wouldn't be an enjoyable experience for most.
>>51872233
No they don't which is why so many resort to using crack and amp. Their bodies are literally begging them to eat some fucking real food instead of mountain dew and doritos.
Protein starvation exists and is one of the biggest reasons why people feel like shit all the time. You're suppose to get at least 0.8 grams of protein per KG of weight to prevent your body from fucking eating itself.
>>51872280
Out of your own article:
>Under normal circumstances, you require about 0.8g of protein per kilogram of healthy body weight to maintain basic bodily functions. That translates into a daily recommended intake (or DRI) of 56 grams of protein for men and 46 grams for women.
>Recent surveys have found that American men eat an average of 100 grams of protein a day, which is almost twice the recommended daily intake for males. Women eat a bit less - about 70 grams of protein a day, or one and a half time the recommended intake for females.
lol
>>51871805
Here's the best alternative you can get easily.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylphenidate
This stuff is very similar to Ritalin and can be semi-legally purchased from "research chemical" vendors on the internet.
I have tried it myself and I can confirm that it is in fact the real deal. Do not haul off and use a big fat dose because you think legal = weak. It is very strong stuff.
>>51872303
/r/microdosing
vyvanse master race
>>51872248
Complete opposite for me, adderal to ritalin, all affects all people different, i still take it because yes i have add and it is the easyest way to manage it at this time in my life, but long term id like to not have to rely on meds just, diet, sleep, exercise, pot etc
>>51872312
see: >>51872318
Sounds more like "people just eat like straight shit", not "people dont get enough protein"
i have a script for 25mg xr and i take it about once a week to produce music and play video games all day
>>51872303
I've microdosed a few times and I can totally imagine it helping a lot. Not even remotely the same way a stimulant would though.
I've been planning on buying some for a while but ever since Agora went down I don't know which market to use or who to buy from.
>>51872385
Just buy some 1P-LSD on the clearnet.
>>51872341
I agree with the latter half of your sentence. Weed really fucks up my motivation more than anything else though.
>>51872385
Nucleus.
A lot of the big Agora vendors sell there.
>>51872394
I think that's still illegal in the US.
>>51872346
Point is before smoking crack and popping amp pills people should try increasing their protein intake first. That was the reason I used to feel like shit all the time. I would eat cup noodles, hot pockets, and chips all day long. Turns out I wasn't even getting half of my daily protein requirement.
I started eating cans of sardines at first and slowly learned how to cook. Now I eat double my protein requirement and I feel fucking awesome. I can actually study for tests without falling asleep halfway through and concentrate more.
>>51872481
1P-LSD has not been scheduled. It is illegal if you buy it for human consumption, but legal to purchase and posses otherwise.
>ITT: druggies
You all really depress me. I used to be hooked on amp and you mongoloids treat it as if it were fucking candy. This shit is bad for you. Eat healthier and get more sleep you fucking retards, drugs are never worth it.
>>51872268
Here's the thing. For some small proportion of people, the right drug regimen will be a real creative boost and helper. For most people it will just fuck up their thoughts enough to be worthless. For another small proportion, it will fuck up their heads and their lives.
Which one are you? No way to tell! How lucky are you feeling?
>>51872517
>amp
That's your problem. Stick to Weed / MDMA / LSD.
>>51872267
2 second google search is not very convincing, sorry *CNS.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3062130/
>Therapeutic dose of methylphenidate is known to cause adverse effects (psychosis or mania), albeit in a small number of cases. Signs and symptoms of adverse effects usually disappear on stopping the medicine.
> is generally seen that stimulant-induced adverse drug effect is short lasting, with recovery typically occurring within 2 days and almost always within 7 days of discontinuing the medication or lowering the dose.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3280383/
>MAP [METH-associated psychosis] may be unique with its long duration of psychosis and recurrence without relapse to METH.
yes i know this^ is about METHamphetamine, but adderall is the same an amphetamine.
My point being, abuse of stimulants can cause adverse side affects like psychosis, but adderall is more dangerous in the fact that said psychosis can be permanent. oh and fuck u 2 second google man.
>>51872626
MDMA is fucking horrible for you. Using MDMA on a regular basis is much worse than popping prescription Ritalin daily.
>>51872595
This. Most people can't fucking control their intake of drugs for beneficial uses. They lose their grip on life and start to abuse the drugs to the point of a full blown chemical addiction.
AMP is one of the worst drugs out there because you will permanently fuck up your organs if you abuse this shit.
So is anybody going to let us know how to get a prescription?
>>51872646
MDMA is fine if you take long enough breaks. I take it once every couple months.
>>51872669
If you really want to know go ask /b/. They are full of druggie scum like yourself and most likely to help you find your next buzz.
>>51871828
>fuel your brain with enough proteins
Brains need sugar, specifically glucose, baka senpai desu~. They're not muscles.
>>>/fit/
>>51871774
>Get 200mg of provigil/nuvigil. It's like adderrall, but smoother and not basically a controlled form of meth.
This is true, but only for people with a particular genetic mutation.
I actually paid for 23andme just to find out if I had it. I don't.
>>51872669
Go to WebMD or something, read the list of symptoms, and then make shit up to your doctor mentioning elements from said list.
>>51872092
REKT
>>51872715
>Brains need sugar
no they dont
I've been completely ketogenic for the past 2 years and never felt better
>>51872715
The brain also requires proteins you fucking ignant negro.
http://memory.foundation/2012/02/14/why-your-brain-needs-protein/
>>51872715
4/10 bait, made me respond
>>51872130
Have AD(H)D
ITT: misinformed junkies/ high school seniors/ off topic drug talk
>>51872169
ritalin makes my anxiety go through the roof
shit was scary
>>51871745
>being a drug addict
>tfw have self-diagnosed depression
>tfw anxious to see a doctor
>tfw much rather just order anti depressant drugs from the darknet than go through my doctor and get them legitimately
As someone who has abused adderall a lot, for programming too.
It's a fucking zero-sum game senpai. Comedowns KICK my fucking ass. I chug water, vitamins, food too.
BUT DAMN THAT HIGH IS GREAT. For those 2-3 hours I feel fucking awesome and love life and everything. Programming becomes fun as fuck and no breaks are had.
The only thing that really helps with comedowns is xanax, and benzos are even worse in the long run.
>>51872783
>>51872810
>>51872855
Modern /g/ doesn't even know what the word fuel means. Kill yourselves.
>>51872896
Are you getting enough proteins in your diet? I used to suffer from random phases of temporary depression and they all went away when I started eating more proteins.
You should be eating 0.8 grams per KG of body weight at minimum.
>>51872988
You certainly don't.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fuel
>>51872896
>tfw much rather just order anti depressant drugs from the darknet than go through my doctor and get them legitimately
Heh. First, some advice:
1) It's actually pretty easy to talk to a doc about it. Also, you'll feel much, MUCH better as soon as you leave the office. I'm not kidding.
2) If you can, please, PLEASE see a psychiatrist rather than a general practitioner. It's kind of ridiculous that doctors have like two weeks of training on the ins and outs of anti-depressant medication, but they'll happily just hand it out. They don't really even know how to interpret your response to it.
That said, I've been without insurance for awhile now. I tried going to an urgent care guy with a flat rate, but after giving me a prescription he announced it was only good for 30 days and he wouldn't write anything longer than that.
So, fuck that, I went online and ordered. I've used "The Pharmacy Express" (.vu, I think) a few times now. They've been reliable, but it takes like a solid month to get your goods.
>>51873017
>Glucose is virtually the sole fuel for the human brain, except during prolonged starvation.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK22436/
>>51872174
>amphetamine
>not similar to methamphetamine
:^)
>>51873026
>That said, I've been without insurance for awhile now.
That truly sucks anonbro. I'm lucky to live in NL where healthcare is mandatory and only costs like 90 euro (and when you're poor the government subsidizes it)
I guess I'll just have to suck it up and go see my doctor. fuck
>>51873043
>methylenedioxy-methamphetamine
>not similar to amphetamine
:^)
>>51872303
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGxSZqTZVaU
Also check out Erowid.
Be safe, anon. Do your research!
>>51873068
>alpha‑methylphenethylamine
>not similar to N-methyl-alpha-methylphenethylamine
:^)
>>51873026
>1) It's actually pretty easy to talk to a doc about it. Also, you'll feel much, MUCH better as soon as you leave the office. I'm not kidding.
this, and for more than one reason. for one thing, buying drugs illegally can be stressful. Every day past the anticipated delivery date is somewhat nerve wracking, and if you need (or just "really want") anti-depressants you're implicitly acknowledging that you're in a bad place mentally. I'm not saying you're broken or defective or any shit like that - just that this isn't the time to be stressing your emotional well-being.
for another thing, talking to someone about what's going on is itself good for you. the current consensus that treatment for most psychological issues should involve therapy isn't complete bullshit; it may be that you need anti-depressants, but myriad studies have demonstrated that behavioral changes and conscious efforts to think about things in certain ways ameliorates (although probably doesn't cure) conditions. So instead of needing X dosage you might only need half of X.
I know that sounds like being stingy with pharmaceuticals, but lots of drugs either have unknown or potentially negative long term consequences (overuse and long term use of adderall seems to be connected to CNS issues, for instance). Given even a 10% probability that these things are connected (use of adderall and the like, and CNS problems), any knowledgeable doctor (and any patient who actually cares about his well-being) should opt for the minimal medicinal dosage needed to go on top of behavioral changes. Ramp up if(/as) necessary, but don't start strong and then ramp down.
meth OP
you'll get everything done and then some
>>51873040
But it also uses proteins. If you don't eat enough proteins your brain won't function as well.
>"Amino Acids: Amino acids come from protein-rich foods and help connect the neurotransmitters which are essential for keeping your brain sharp. These neurotransmitters include: dopamine for proper immune and nervous system function. Norepinephrine for alertness and concentration. Serotonin for mood, sleep, memory, and learning. Acetylcholine for storage and recall of memory."
http://lifehacker.com/5899379/what-brain-food-actually-does-for-your-brain
>>51873137
>for another thing, talking to someone about what's going on is itself good for you.
not the original guy you guys are replying to, but I've been depressed for nearly 5 or 6 years now and the only thing that helps for me is isolating myself and being alone for a couple of weeks
I've tried any drug imaginable, therapy, meditation, etc etc. The only thing that got me out of a rut was my first time doing LSD and even that doesn't work anymore.
Just need to be alone. Talking to others is just more added stress.
>>51872783
that's because your stupid fucking retard brain can't feel that you're drooling
>>51873140
this
>>51872992
protein deficiency isn't a thing.
>>51873172
Fats are converted to glucose you dipshit. This is why your body craves fried food so fucking much.
>>51873155
It sounds like you've had bad therapists. The knee-jerk reaction that depressed people have is to hole up, and it must seem suspiciously convenient even to you that the best treatment for you is exactly what you want - to be allowed to crawl into a hole and to be left alone.
I felt the same way when I first started seeing therapists a number of years ago. It took bouncing around to like my 4th therapist, who basically engaged with me and interrogated the negative shit I had going on in my head. Ultimately the goal was to give me tactics to engage with my negativity on my own so I wouldn't need to see a therapist anymore.
I'm not necessarily saying that you're wrong about the best treatment for yourself, but the notion that therapy doesn't help and you should just be allowed to be alone and take LSD whenever you want sounds so suspect that I doubt very much anyone who's studied psychology for more than 4 years would agree with you unless they had a lot of background on you.
>>51873143
>>51873143
>But it also uses proteins. If you don't eat enough proteins your brain won't function as well.
As does most of the rest of the body. One is a primary energy source for the brain, the other isn't.
>>51872093
That's not how fucking quotation marks work. Your reading comprehension and spelling are garbage. 0/10
>>51873205
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwashiorkor
>>51873224
dat armchair psychology
>>51873316
armchair psychology recommending trying more therapy sounds less crazy than armchair psychology self-prescribing solitude and LSD.
>>51871902
>Seriously though, don't do drugs. They're never worth it in the end. You'll become dependent on them to function and fuck up your brain/liver for life.
>>51873140
>tfw you can taste your teeth for the first time
>>51871902
You are chemicals. All of your behaviors are dependencies.
>>51873501
>tfw I could "taste" the dryness of my lips when I took LSD
>ITT: hardware and software enthusiasts
>Tech support
>Basement dwellers
>Exchanging professional health advice.
tl;dr come here to stroke your penis.
>>51873529
Synesthesia is the coolest fucking shit.
>tfw retarded
>tfw depressed
>tfw retarded
>tfw afraid to go to the doctor
>>51873567
you and me both bro,
just hide yourself behind the drugs
>>51871873
12$ for 20 MG adderal extended release here. Trying to get a script for it
>>51872716
>23andme
How did it feel giving up your DNA to the google botnet?
>>51871745
>I know its bad
>I'm thinking of getting a prescription
>>51872016
It took me literally a week to get prescribed with ADHD, first I got referred to a psychiatrist from normal doc, couple days later get a phone interview from a nurse asking basic shit like "do you find yourself speaking over people...." shit like that, get an appointment with psych, go in, talk to Russian psych for like 10 minutes, walk out with adderal, profit$$$
Californiafag btw
>>51872385
The Majestic Garden for everything psychedelic.
>>51871745
>>51871774
>>51872174
>>51872716
Anons, unless you have Narcolepsy like I do, I would advise that you stay away from Modafinil, Adderall, et al. It is definitely not your average aspirin...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphetamine_dependence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stimulant_psychosis
Stick with occasional psychedelic use. They can open mental doors and improve your life.
>>51871745
>tfw no nzt without sideeffects
>>51872626
>LSD
>MDMA
>wanting od potential
DMT and shrooms are master race hallucinogens
>weed
Cannabis is great for me to loose weight without really putting in any effort. Take it at bed-time to preserve maximum productivity during the day. Too bad I can't practically 420 blaze it anymore, damn pot-bashers and shitty economy
>>51872884
You forgot no fun rulefag hot pockets
Self awareness is a wonderful thing
>>51872716
You're wrong.
The problem is that this is a candidate-gene experiment, whose results can reach statistical-significance only because they study a single SNP rather than all available SNPs (which would be a GWAS); candidate-gene studies have a fairly notorious reputation for results not replicating and followup GWAS studies showing that dozens or hundreds of candidate-gene results were bogus, and there have been no followups or replications of Bodenmann et al 2009.
Survey of mod users:
216 respondents included their Rs4680 status; the percentage were 26% AA / 42% AG / 32% GG, giving an almost exactly balanced number of AAs vs GGs, just as in the Bodenmann et al 2009 European sample. dbSNP reports that of a general population of 1507 samples, the corresponding percentages were 12%/44%/43%
In regressing Rs4680 status on a sum of the 3 responses relating to subjective experience of modafinil (the 1-5 ‘how effective do you find modafinil’, the binary ‘would you say modafinil has changed your life’, and the number of issues respondent indicated that modafinil helped with), the result is not statistically-significant and is in the opposite direction. (This is true whether Rs4680 is regressed as a linear or categorical predictor, and whether the 3 responses are summed or used as separate dependent variables.)
>>51872716
>>51875495
One might think that sample selection accounts for the lack of effect, as people for whom modafinil does not work will be much less likely to participate in the survey; this selection effect predicts that there would be a large excess of GGs (for whom modafinil works well) and a corresponding lack of AAs (most of whom it does not work and will not bother to participate, leaving only the luckier AAs who think modafinil works for other reasons), large enough to make the effects disappear, but in comparing to the population frequencies we see not just insufficient imbalance to explain the lack of effect, but quite the opposite - there’s an excess of AAs and a corresponding reduction in GGs. (The excess of AAs compared to the dbSNP population frequencies may be due to racial differences, since respondents are mostly Caucasian or East Asian.)
>>51872716
>>51875495
>>51875500
tl;dr youre wrong.
>>51872673
Ah, you take it. Therefore it is fine.
Solid argument, friend.
>>51872322
Not him but be careful when sniffing this shit, especially on a binge which most are likely to do. It is corrosive and the constriction of the blood vessels will absolutely fuck your nose up. EPH is what Ritalin is converted to in your body if you drink alcohol with it.
>been on this shit since 7
>social anxiety from the start, doctor's plan to deal with it was more drugs (Prozac) that didn't help
>literally fainted a few times in 6th grade because the appetite loss caused me to become UNDERweight, until I "fixed" that by binging on junk food on the weekends when I wasn't being forced to take it
>later unable to sleep with it, at least this time I only ended up on Melatonin (a supplement) as the "solution"
>finally refuse to keep going along with it because next came suicidal thoughts that always conveniently went away when I "forgot" to take it in the morning
>suicidal thoughts got to the point of me self harming myself before I realized Adderall was causing them
>scared to go to the doctor now since I'm probably going to get yelled at for the self harm then put on more shit
Fuck you OP. Adderall is shit, stay away from it.
>>51875638
I got my prescription for it when I was 19, 4 years ago.
Since then I've noticed some short term memory loss and every now and then I'm at a loss for words when before I could recite an entire soliloquy.
I've never abused it, always stayed below 30mg a day and the only other drug I've taken has been Percocet therapeutically for a back injury.
>>51873103
>9:30
t.b.h. f.a.m.
>>51874063
Narcobro here. I use 60 vyvanse to keep me awake. Helps since i work graveyard shift.
>>51875638
>giving a 7 year old amphetamines
america
What happens when a normal person takes ADD medication?
Does it just enable you to stay super focused on your work? That sounds really useful in college I have to force myself to study the more boring subjects
>>51875638
agree
>>51872171
You're still a faggot
>>51871745
I got methylphenidate cause I have ADD. Barely use it though, only when I want to study.
26 now and I recently got a new prescription after not using the stuff for a long ass time.
I was on Ritalin (and Concerta) from age 6 to 18 or so before I decided I didn't want to take it anymore.
University turns out to be pretty difficult at times when you can't control your focus so I went to a psychiatrist and got tested again which resulted in a new prescription.
Got Concerta at first but that gave me a massive headache at first (and isn't covered by insurance) so I asked for Ritalin and got the generic version. Seems to be working reasonably well, at least I don't get a headache from it.
Plus I lose my appetite so maybe I'll even stop being a fat fuck.
>>51876283
eh, I'm >>51876367
I live in The Netherlands and they gave me 4x10mg Ritalin a day from age 6.
It's not a problem restricted to burgerland
>>51876312
Have you ever been to a college setting? Kids are buying 20mg addy's for 10$ a piece. Street price where i live is like 3x 20's for 7-8 bucks.
So in a sense it is, "useful" since it allows people to focus super hard on studying.
>>51871745
I don't know anything about adderall, bur I tried my ex' dextroamphetamine a couple of times for both programming and cramming for exams, and it worked great.
Didn't make me smarter or more focused, but it made me more awake for a longer period of time and I didn't feel hungry or tired at all while it lasted.
>>51876384
Ritalin is not an amphetamine.
If I remember correctly amphetamines for ADHD are only legal in the anglosphere
>>51876538
The only side-effect was that I built up a tolerance quite fast, after a week I had to up my dose from 10 mg every 4 hours to 20 mg every two hours, which is when my ex pulled the plug as she needed the pills for her ADHD.
>>51876588
They have almost the same effect: Increasing the amount of dopamine and norepinephrine between synapses in the brain
>>51876588
>If I remember correctly amphetamines for ADHD are only legal in the anglosphere
See >>51876538
It's legal in Norway to, but extremely regulated and only allowed in the cases where Ritalin and a couple of other meds doesn't work either. And you're only on it for 6 months at the time, then you are off for some months before you can get on it again.
>>51876648
That's dumb, my doctor prescribed me 30mg a day but she gave it to me in 10mg capsules so that I can vary my dose.
I end up only taking 10mg a day and sometimes none at all. Does this stuff expire, cause I've got a huge stash of extras
>>51876738
>That's dumb, my doctor prescribed me 30mg a day but she gave it to me in 10mg capsules so that I can vary my dose.
>I end up only taking 10mg a day and sometimes none at all.
That's what they do here as well, but according to my ex you build up a tolerance quite fast which is why you only get it for six months at a time.
The dose isn't 30 mg a day, it is UP TO 30 mg a day.
>>51876750
Yeah I know, I'm very careful to take 2 or 3 days off a week in order to avoid dependence.
They can prescribe a maximum of 3 months at a time here in Canada but you aren't forced to wait 3 months.
>>51872208
This
