Alright /g/, let's make a mouse guide. There's lots of shit ones that morons make, so let's get together and make one. It should have a few pros and cons of each mouse and pretty pictures and shit. I have started one, but don't wanna go full retard and just put my ideas in.
So here's what we need:
>Suggestions
>Mice you own/have owned and your thoughts
>Anything else
Let's stop being n33ts and actually address the thread that comes up three times a day
Logitech G602
+ Lots of buttons
+ sturdy
+ wireless
+ DPI choice
+ economy mode
- wireless
- heavy
I'll put mine in too. Steelseries Rival
+ Zero-acceleration optics
+ Good software
- Relatively Heavy
- Meh build quality
* Palm grip
* Ergonomic
Good or Great. Anyone else?
>>51819271
Good or Great? Your summary, and reviews, say great, but what's your say?
>>51819311
>Good or Great? Your summary, and reviews, say great, but what's your say?
Great tier
>>51819321
gotchu senpai
My mouse - Logitech G502
+ Adjustable DPI
+ No acceleration
+ Comfortable for claw grip
+ Good for larger hands (only if using claw grip)
+ Best mouse wheel I've ever used (button for clicky wheel or frictionless)
+ Decent amount of programmable buttons
+ Multipul profiles
+ Adjustable weight
- worse software than razors
- Only suitable for claw grip
- Profile button is in a stupid place
- DPI button in stupid place also not tectile enough
- looks like a gay UFO
Logitech G402
+ excellent sensor
+ cheap
+ responsive/durable buttons
+ easy configuration
- light
- cheap usb cable (not braided)
- gaymer aesthetic
Overall I'd give it good tier, maybe great if the g502 wasn't objectivley better. I've been pretty happy with it
>>51819271
>>51819375
>>51819391
Adding now. G502 probably great, 402 probably good.
>>51819375
>worse software
Eh, Ive liked the software for logitech mouses thus far, pretty easy to customize shit.
But yes the mouse is to small for my big ass hand unless I claw grip. The stupid fucking m6 button has such a shitty placement. hate it when my pinky sort of just drags along due to the small size as well.
I miss my g500s. I wish i wasnt such a chimp and [spoiler]accidentally let it slip out of my hand, hit the edge of my table and fucked up the laser as a result[/spoiler]
Logitech G402
>Feels nice in the hand
>adjustable DPI in your chosen range and increments (you can choose a small range of closer DPI settings, spread them far apart or whatever random difference between steps you choose, up to 5 steps)
>5 customizable function buttons
>control of LEDs
>can save settings onboard
Cons
> can get dirty somewhat easily
>scroll wheel not my favorite (maybe just personal?)
I use the back two buttons for volume, the thumb for mute (great for phone calls or when my wife is trying to say something) and the top two extras for DPI though there is a list of things you can set them for. The default for the thumb button is an immediate DPI shift at a level you choose, which if you can remember to use it can be kind of useful for shooters to change speed in scope/zoom, speed up aiming a slower weapon, or just whatever, I almost immediately made it the mute button, couldn't be dicked into finding something more creative.
>>51819375
>Only suitable for claw grip
As someone who uses this as palm, this is entirely true. My G9x was better.
There already is a better one, with all the sensors listed
>>51819561
>>51819502
I use the 402 with Palm, if that's worth adding. Not sure if claw would be doable with it, never tried because it seems to fit my hand pretty naturally for Palm.
>>51819248
Don't forget.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZzbKDmFOqsP_ut2RdctD01OEbZzbXol6HLwqVkSmZcg/edit#gid=0
Contributing:
Apple Magic Mouse
Special case:
Trolling the shit out of /g/
>>51819645
fucking kek
>>51819248
G400
zero bullshit mouse
looks decent
good sensor that doesnt jutter everywhere
Take some info from here, if you like.
>>51819670
4chan ate my image
>>51819674
<3
Pic attached is where I'm at so far. Will add the G400, as well as some Zowie & Razer mice, and the LI stuff
>>51819736
I present to you Mike
+Easy to handle
+Good for smaller hands
+Adjustable weight
+Good optics, even at night
+Cheap
+No wires
-Can be difficult to clean
-Claw grip is no good
-Buttons are hard to locate
-Grip can be difficult
-Noisy, squeaks a lot
Deathadder (whatever the latest memename for it is)
++Extremely comfy
++Extremely low LOD when calibrated
+Top-tier sensor
+5 buttons
+100-6400 DPI choice
+Minimalistic (lights are optional)
+Profiles can be synced via cloud
+One profile can be stored on mouse, to run without software/internet connection
-Still need account(?)/internet connection to configure said offline profile initially
-Rubber side grips are a pain to clean and will get pretty gross
-Relatively expensive
--Shitty quality control
--Software likes to demand system reboots after even the most trivial of updates
*The most common thing to 'fail' (m1 or m2 doubleclicking when you click once) is a 5min job to fix and the results will last years.
*Note how I say their QC is shit, not that the build quality is necessarily shit; deathadders can be pretty damn sturdy, but from my experience it's a lottery as to whether you'll get one that lasts years without issue, or one where the side button will physically snap within a couple of weeks.
Gamdias Demeter
+AHK-based software
+Comfortable symmetric design
+Small extensions on each mouse button make it more comfortable to use
+Nice texture grip for thumb and pinky
+Nice sensor quality
+Perfect midground between light and heavy, no flimsiness
+RGB scrollwheel that can be set for individual profiles for visual feedback
+Equilibrated teflon mouse pads, hard to tilt.
+- XButton1/2 are on separate sides
+- Silly software, but highly customizable
-XButtons get in the way in certain grip styles and feel dumb to press (weird squeeze & clack)
-DPI button is high profile
-Can't reprofile DPI in software
-Demeter logo on left mouse button very tactile
-Large seams
-Can't change profiles without software opened
-Software takes a long time to start and forces focus
>>51819248
remove that gaymur shit from the title or label it /v/ official guide
Thoughts so far?
To do:
Mouse Mouse
Demeter
G400
Maybe some MMO mice
Roccat
Corsair
Smaller manufacturers
>>51819736
>>51819742
Pic related. I will also take the info I find ITT and enrich my guide with it, especially the pros and cons.
>>51819752
> The most common thing to 'fail' (m1 or m2 doubleclicking when you click once) is a 5min job to fix and the results will last years.
Blatant lie. You can't fix the chink micro-switch, you need to hunt down and solder on a real Japanese Omron D2FC-F-7N. This is not a 5 minute project.
>>51820074
try spelling collaborative correctly or you'll lose all credibility.
>>51820074
Definitely add the Mionix Naos and Avior!
>>51820087
o shit
>>51820074
Maybe try ordering the mice on a simple -> buttons-all-over-the-whazoo sort of basis in a left to right fashion?
>Roccat Kone
>Roccat XTD
>Roccat Kiro
>Corsair Gaming Sabre
Used all these. Loved them.
>>51820106
Good idea. I can't really think of a different, suitable, useful way of sub-ordering them.
>>51820106
A columns & rows is actually a pretty unique idea. Like get rows for low/mid/high etc. tier quality and order columns for standard, gaming, mmo; or something else.
>>51820131
>unique idea
>>51820163
Show me another guide for anything that does that. OP clearl has that going for him with FPS/Non-FPS but other than that?
>>51820193
I'm switching that idea up a bit. gonna bring it back, but not as-is
Corsair M90 -
+ Heavy
+ Adjustable DPI
+ Laser sensor
+ Avago ADNS-9500 sensor
+ Loads of programmable buttons
+ DPI buttons in great place
+ Great size for all grips
+ Great surface detection
+ Best build quality available
- Shit software
- Shit mouse wheel
- Might be too heavy for some
- Side buttons are too easy to press
- Line snapping is on by default
- Braided cable isn't very good
>>51819744
k e k
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>>51819502
I currently using a 3 year old G400s which still works perfectly fine. Is the G402 new sensor has much of improvement to be worth a upgrade?
Currently on sale for 50 dollars Au free shipping.
>>51820299
Couldn't tell you, it's the first and only decent mouse I've ever had. Was ultrapoor for a long time, cheap ass mice were all I knew until I got it.
Not to say I've never USED a nice mouse, just never long enough to make a valid opinion, and I can't recall what either of my friends were using.
I like it quite a lot. Buy it from some place with a good return policy that would take it on the basis of dissatisfaction?
>>51819375
>Profile button is in a stupid place
>DPI button in stupid place also not tectile enough
You can change these to be where-ever you like with the software.
Razer Imperator 2012 Expert
+ Comfortable for both Palm and Fingertip grip
+ Movable thumb buttons
+ Rubberized contoured thumb grip
+ Smooth scroll wheel
+ Strong blue lights (you can also turn them off Individually)
+ One Synapse profile can be stored on mouse so it doesn't require further usage of Razer's shitty software
+ 6400dpi 4G Dual Sensor
+ 7 programmable buttons
+ Nice matt-grey finish
+ Feels solid
+ Braided Cable
- Requires Razer's shitty software
- Software needs to restart your PC every update
- Starts off with shitty acceleration
- Might be too heavy for some
- It's literally rigged to break after a year of use (MB1 or MB2 start to double click like on every other Razer mouse)
Still looking for:
>Absolute trash shit mice you've owned or know of
> GOAT mice
Logitech M100
+ Comfortable Claw grip
+ Scroll wheel actually works fine
+ Feels solid, good look / colours
+ Can work just fine for CS:GO / FPS depending on your sensitivity, I had to increase mine a little bit.
+ No extra buttons
- No extra buttons
- After extrensive use it will start doublecliking randomly when you only click once, very inconsistent in that regard
- How do you even find out the DPI of this piece of shit
- At low sensitivity it will not track your fast mouse movements that well, like turning around 180, you have to up your sensitivity or it will lag behind a bit
- Build quality seems cheap
* Somehow got me to Legendary Eagle
I would put this in meh to good tier, for a 13€ mouse. It has served me well, I think I'll replace it with a Rival or Zowie FK1/FK2 this Christmas.
>>51820577
Natec Genesis GX69
+Comes with an extra set of underneath pads
+Braided cable
+Buttons feel nice
+Autofire button that works better than any software-supplied macros
-Sent 3 times to warranty in 1 year, extremely unreliable
-"Ergonomic" design only for one very specific grip style and for a specific hand size - uncomfortable in most conditions
-The adjustable handrest is useless, and making it bigger is uncomfortable
-The screw on the adjustable handrest is pure unpainted metal, your fingers smell like iron after use
-"Adjustable weighs" are completely useless, screws have very small weight
-Cancerous software
-Paint scrapes off the buttons
-Broken DPI settings, high DPI can be lower sensitivity
-Gets very dirty and hard to clean through the cliffs between parts
-Poor LED
What's a good mouse with lots of side buttons?
>>51820741
Logitech g600
>>51820741
The Razer Naga or Logitech G600
Logitech G400s
+ Up to 4000 CPI, 800 and 4000 are native
+ No accel
+ 8 buttons in total, 2 on the side, all can be customized
+ Fairly durable, heard of cord issues though
+ Up to 1000Hz polling rate
+ No angle snapping/prediction
- LOD too big
- Fat and heavy
- Only good for claw grips
>>51820770
The cored issue was mainly the G400, never had any issues with mine after 3 years.
Logitech has great customers service tho, they will replace it with the 3 year warranty
8/10 i love it, however i wish it was metal
>>51820083
You don't need to replace the switch, you just need to open the switch housing with a stanley/xacto knife, take out the 'spring' and flatten it a little, then put it back together.
I know this because I did it myself, roughly following this guide:
http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/29955/how-do-i-fix-an-omron-d2fc-f-7n-microswitch-from-unwanted-clicks
>>51820770
>G400/s
>good for claw grip
What? I have G400 and its pretty much palm grip only. Its tall and heavy (110g w/o cord).
Here's what I have so far. Going to add an "Old but good" style category, and maybe some other bits. Trying to keep it simple.
I'm going for a nap so I'll be back later, either here or in a new thread. I've added everything submitted to a notepad so I've got it all recorded :)
Thanks for the help so far people
>>51821117
M100 in the shit tier category? Jesus will strike thee down, faggot
>>51820894
The cord on my G400 started malfunctioning after 2.5 years. Fixing it is very simple, you just pull a few centimeters of the cable into the mouse. However you have to buy new mousefeet, because the screws are located under the mousefeet.
>>51821137
You caught me just before I leave:
Read the line above it you fucking moron.
>no mention of sensor type, sensor model, button quantity and configuration, dimensions, native cpi, cpi range, ambidextrous or handed style, required software, etc
>just a bunch of subjective impressions from random people
it's already shit. just use the flawless sensor mouse list from esreality since it has things like actual quantifiable information instead of reader's digest oprah bullshit
>>51821117
Logitech G600
+All the buttons you could ever want
+G-Shift gives you double the commands
+Godliest mouse for MMOs
+All profiles can be stored in the mouse and used without special drivers/software
+Updatable firmware to fix any bugs (haven't been any in years now)
-Kinda heavy
-Big, only useful for palm grip
-Laser sensor, may have acceleration issues
-Mediocre scroll wheel
>>51819674
Vouching for the CM recon sensor.
Although the rubber coating rather came off relatively fast (~1 year), otherwise great mouse.
Great
>>51821185
also
>no weight
lmao
>>51820366
I know, but the said problems would mean I have to disable them. Losing mouse functionality
A4Tech Bloody T7 Winner Black USB?
Zowie fk2 is godlike for fps
>>51821180
Nice
>>51821117
Zowie FK2
+Nice grip/size
+Flawless sensor
+Basically a newer version of the amazing fk1
+/-Very simple design, basically plug and play. Driverless
+/-No flashy design or LEDs, looks simple
-Yellow is an ugly colour
I own a Roccat Savu, what do you guys think of that?
>>51821239
Not really sure what you're talking about.
Just reassign the function to something other button, then assign the function which was on that button previously to some other button. I don't see how you're losing functionality if you can assign anything to any button.
>>51821344
>Roccat Savu
Sounds tasty desu.
>>51819248
MX master is actually good if you use the wire. The g402, g400, g500 and g502 all have flawless sensors and belong in god tier.
logitech mx 390
+fits my hand perfectly
+plenty of buttons
+tracks well on any surface
+really inexpensive. great bang for the buck
-side buttons may become loose after a while
-similarly, scroll wheel can get sticky
-mouse cable is woven, which means it's very flexible and durable but snags on things a bit easier
>>51820074
Jesus, you're good at this.
Teach me how to use PS, please!
>>51821117
Where's mike?
sorry don't have much info to elaborate on but I use the Zowie FK1 and it's been fantastic
The sensors are really good and no drivers needed
>>51819271
>>51819311
>heavy is a negative
What? some people (me included) prefer the mouse to be as heavy as possible, should probably be listed as a *
func ms2
+ good amount of side buttons
+ minimal gaymen look
+ dpi 800-4000
+ 3 profiles with each 3 dpi steps configurable through software
+ certainly not an expert but sensor and tracking feel great
- feels a bit light
>>51821192
>-kinda heavy
should be
>+kinda heavy
probably a typo
also I fingertip grip mine no problem, it's actually one of the only mouses that I would consider the perfect size
>>51821192
Also
>+adjustable lighting colours with fades and transitions :^}
>certainly not an expert but sensor and tracking feel great
>All the buttons you could ever want
>8/10 i love it, however i wish it was metal
>How do you even find out the DPI of this piece of shit
>Perfect midground between light and heavy, no flimsiness
l m a o. turns out /g/ are a bunch of apple-tier retards straight out of the amazon comments section
>>51821708
>certainly not an expert but sensor and tracking feel great
It has Omron switches and ADNS-3090 sensor. What do you want me to do, write a review and test the sensor with software to please your autism?
>>51821636
I find a lot of people like lighter mice, probably because it's easier to sling them around. It doesn't bother me too much. In fact they actually have extra weights on the inside to intentionally make it heavier, so I guess people who play MMOs like heavier mice? I dunno.
I find it a little oddly shaped, but then I always felt like if they blended the thumb grid of this with the body & scroll wheel of the G700 they would have the perfect mouse.
>>51821656
I'm not into that meme, so make of it what you will.
I'll make the logo
I return people :)
>>51821424
>Missing the point of "god" tier
>Missing the first line
>>51821457
Not that good :)
>>51821476
Mike the mouse will probably be in god tier or meh tier. He has perhaps the best ergonomics of any mouse, but he's really damn noisy.
>>51821563
>>51821636
A large majority will go against a heavy mouse. It's cumbersome to control and makes for shaky replacement
It's great.
>>51822350
>wireless
Into the shit-tier it goes.
>>51822383
Yeah, because you totally need that super fast response time.
I bet you're not even GE.
This has been the best budget purchase I've made all year
>>51820074
god tier ? not included ms wheel optic and ms intelli just die.
>>51822458
Find me a reliable source of new IME3s and it'll go up there. For now it's in the old-but-good bit I've added
A4 Tech XL760H
+ Faster click rate than Razer shit (I get called out for macros and mouse wheel shooting while using left click)
+ Cheaper
+ Durable (Reaching five years right now, some minor decoloring of the plotted image and a little sideways wobbling of top layer.)
- Not ambidextrous
Update. 188 layers so far, maybe the furthest I've got in a (proper) project without getting bored.
>>51823044
100% crop on the new bits
>>51823044
>188 layers
>ONE HUNDRED
>EIGHTY EIGHT
>LAYERS
jesus
>>51821342
This for God Tier
this should be in the great tier
>>51823061
Where's the Zowie?
>>51823061
>Mike
10/10
>>51823104
Nevermind, I see what you did.
>>51823074
ikr
>>51823084
>>51823104
god-tier already
>>51823138
credit >>51819744, but I dont think he envisaged it in shit-tier
>>51819248
Awesome, can we make a keyboard guide next?
>>51819311
Great-tier. Also, I quite like it's weight.
>>51819391
402 scroll wheel is absolutely insanely disgusting. The click is hard and loud as fuck. Other than that it's an ok mouse.
>>51819271
I own and love that big bastard. Quick toggle of mouse speed, good weight, sturdy ass buttons.
I've only been using Logitech mouses in the last few years, do any other manufacturers have profile-based scripting support like Logitech?
That shit is unbelievably useful in some games. After using it for a few years I'm not sure I want to give it up at all.
Logitech M100
>+10 dollars
>+good ergonomics
>+DPI isn't bad for a cheap-ass mouse
>=wired (pro for some, con for others)
>-double-clicks after a year and a half, needs extensive cleaning to fix it (a common problem for cheap logitech mice)
>-cable may break sometimes - mine did at the third year of use; it's fixed by cutting the cable and resoldering it
Mionix Castor
God-tier ?
I'm using Rival 100 now, over G402 and G303 (shape on this one is a deal breaker). It is actually a good mouse, even though I wasn't expecting much. Controlling is way easier than G402, which is important for FPS, but w/e for anything else.
>>51821117
Switch Naga for Naga Chroma as the DPI is increased and is the same price on the Razer store.
This also goes for the Deathadder
>>51819744
>good optics, even at night
I have no sides
>>51823294
Check
>>51820671
hey /g/
I want to upgrade from G500 to either the 402 or the 502.
My first choice was the 502 but after reading the thread it seems that palm grip makes it not comfortable.
I'd like to get the 402 but my shit gets dirty fast because I live in an area where there is too much dust and the room temperature on hot days dries wet towels in a few hours.
So is it possible to actually use palm grip for 502?
OP u still here? If yes update us
>>51819744
>+No wires
What about the tail?
>>51824569
Dust isn't my problem with the 402 so much as minding where your hands have been before you touch it. Greasy hands will become immediately apparent
G500S i'm happy with it
Mionix Castor/Naos7000/Avior 7000 (depending on your grip)
+good amount of buttons
+perfect senors
+comfy af
+fully configurable angel shaping and all
+macro support
-lack luster software
-cannot store multiple profiles
-castor only has a single DPI button (avior and naos have up and down)
Can we have a separate list where we don't take pricing into account? While it's obviously an important factor for most people when buying, it doesn't give an accurate depiction of how good each mouse compares to each other objectively.
>>51821342
b-but it's ambidextrous, that can't be comfortable
>>51825203
I got the avior off massdrop for $60 and it's keking amazing. Though I want to reverse engineer the software sometime.
You guys are a bunch of animals.
>>51825428
Muh nigga.
OP Back again
Going to work on those to be added, then pad it, add some stuff to shit (i.e. why there are very few actually shit mice) and order them. then post it for feedback/rearrangement and we're done
>>51825428
That is a great mouse. I have an older model without the illumination, but they feel great in the hand and work well. I still miss the Intellimouse but that is a close second to my all time favorite. Akshually, it is a 3 way tie between those two and a G700 I abused.
trackball > trackpad > touch screen > pleb mouse > gayming mouse with a million buttons for casting spells
pic related is mine
+ HUEG ball
+ 4 programmable buttons
+ scroll ring
+ heavy enough to not move around the desk
+ not fucking wireless
- cheapest price i could find was $65
- the scroll ring feels like shit for the first month. it seems to catch one something while you twist it. after a while it wears down
- the top and bottom pairs can be programmed to perform another click when pressed together, but this causes a lag when you click just one while it waits to see if the other is about to be clicked
- included software mostly sucks. i only use it to adjust scroll speed.
- it's fucking huge on the desk.
~ bettertouchtool is all but required if you want to do anything beyond right click, left click, back, forward with the buttons
~ might be a reliability problem. i haven't had it long enough to know.
~ the included wrist support is useful, but poorly designed. it's annoying to attach and doesn't sit as sleekly to the mouse as i thought it would
still the best mouse i've ever owned. it replace a microsoft trackball optical that i had to clean 3 times a week and currently costs $600 or something on amazon.
>>51819645
mine doesn't even move. it just sits next to my massive trackball and i use it for scrolling.
>>51825428
>thumb ball
savage
G303?
>>51825993
Is it much better than the orbit? My orbit tends to accumulate gunge and stick, and after cleaning it's too uncontrollable.
>>51826147
i think so. i only used the orbit once, though. also moar buttons.
>>51820770
Should be god tier
I've been using my cheap mouse for a while. Utechsmart Venus MMO Mouse.
Originally got it to play some mmo (Tera/WoW), but don't play them anymore.
>Pros
Lots of buttons
Cheap
DPI choice (16400 dpi, can choose)
Custom Macro software (comes with it)
Customize color (can change frequency of blinking and color I believe)
Sturdy cable
>Cons
Some weird mouse movement a year ago (bought this mouse 2 years ago), haven't had that since.
I believe I bought this for <$30. Its a generic chinese mouse that other manufacturers make use of .
Mionix Avior definitely needs to be there, as a god-tier claw grip.
What are some proper mice, worthy of god tier? Bear in mind this is for the absolutely flawless, best-of-the-best out there.
>>51819375
I'd like to add to this one, as I have it as well... It's good for small hands. I was using a RAT 3 before because it was good for my hand size, I was afraid the G502 would be awful as far as size, but it works well.
>>51819311
i got it for about 1y ago, for me the best mice evah, but sometimes i find scroll littlebit low quality
> not being able to save profiles and hotkeys and macros in the mouse memory itself
It's like it's 1990
as a Naga 2014 owner : the shitton of buttons comes in handy once you get used to them.
quaker here. wmo on top
also, the g100s is pretty good. ambidextrous, no button4 or button5, default dpi is 1000. Extremely lightweight (70g) once the weight inside is removed.
something that you definitely should include is whether special software might be needed for configuration (polling rate, dpi stuff), support for different operating systems and what sensor the mouse uses.
some people sperging out over gayming mice:
http://esreality.com/post/2675014/3366-is-quite-over-hyped/
http://esreality.com/post/2707175/proof-of-poor-sensor-performance/
Logitech G500s
+ adjustable from 200-8200 dpi
+ adjustable weight
+ 3 thumb buttons
+ mouse wheel can be pushed sideways
+ dedicated buttons to in/decrease DPI
+ fully programmable
+ very low LOD
+ works without software (if on-board mem is used)
- no optical sensor
- sensor not centered (located in upper third)
- mousewheel can be tricky
- weights are added in the back only
>>51823334
Way too less buttons for me, otherwise 10/10
>>51823044
Is OP dead?
>>51823044
Should pretty much add all Zowie mouses into the God tier
>>51828073
>having such things tied to a device that breaks more frequently than a computer
>>51820770
We should also have the MX500, MX518, G400, and G400S listed under special cases, as parts from each are physically interchangeable. Two dead (physically or cosmetically-damaged) mice in any of these categories can be harvested for parts and combined into one living mouse and one slightly smaller pile of spare parts.
>>51819311
My gf just gave me one as an early Christmas present as my old one died.
I love it but it's weird to get used to this no acceleration
>>51824838
can you just shrink wrap mouse for protection against dirt, stains, and wear and tear?
my G500 is getting worn out already and the matte layer on the LMB is already shiny because of constant usage
>>51821424
>owned the MX Master for 2 months
>legitimately didn't know you could use it in wired mode
The more you know
>>51819311
Heavy?! You gotta be shitting me. Go lift some weights, stat!
R-Horse FC-5150
>It looks nice
>Build quality is meh
>I just werks
>Under $10 bucks
>>51830780
>Follow up post
Just tried several micro USB cables, including Logitech's included one, and couldn't get it to work wired.
Then did some Googling and no one can get it to work.
>TL;DR
The MX Master is a 100% wireLESS mouse
>>51819311
**palm/hybrid
But you're right in saying that it is definitely not for claw grip
Logitech G300
+ relatively cheap (about 30€/USD)
+ symmetric, so lefties can use it too
+ very light, great for fast movements
+ RGB LED shows the current profile's color a the side the mouse
+ good sensor and a USB report rate of 1000 Hz
- a bit small
- some people say it feels uncomfortable
- "only" 2500dpi
>>51825993
>>51825428
Add these to the special section.
I swear to god, nothing is better for RTS, and/or autoCAD than track balls.
>>51831520
Better picture and
+ 9 keys
- 4 of the keys are small and not that easy to reach
>>51831566
man those extra buttons are placed so strangely.
Shit-tier
[2015 T80 New Version] DLAND ZELOTES Professional LED Optical 7200 DPI 7 Button USB Wired Gaming Mouse Mice for gamer Adjustable DPI Switch Function 7200DPI/3200DPI/2400 DPI /1600 DPI /1000 DPI For Pro Game Notebook PC Laptop Computer
+Dpi button?
-Yes that is the real name
-cheap chink shit
-ugly "led" lights
-in general never buy random chick shit
>>51819375
Logitech software aint that bad.
let not forget this mouse can use in house memory or use software based game detect profile switch.
DPI buttons can be re assigned,so I have no Idea why you complain change the button.
I use it with a palm grip so it is claw/palm
lol he doesn't like the G9x? Greatest mouse of all time. There are very few other mice with all the G9x features that are suitable for fingertip grip.
>>51819744
go to bed dad
>>51833829
I'm still relevant!
You youngsters with all your fancy electronics!
Back in my day that was what a mouse was!
That's what a mouse will always be, regardless of what you say.
>>51831292
Is that the Denver broncos logo?
>>51830892
Something tells me you've never used a proper mouse...
>>51833292
jesus youre thick
>>51819670
The shape is bullshit
Just use the geek hack guide that actually has some information and not your shitty pros and cons you stupid faggots.
>>51819248
>Gaming
fuck off, nothing is gaming it's a marketing term to up prize on mouse with more buttons.
>>51837840
Maybe so, but "marketing term to up price on mouse with more buttons" doesn't fit and isn't as attractive.
Also try finding a proper optical sensor on something that isn't either priced extortionately or isn't branded gaming. Who cares if it's a marketing term?
>>51837979
>OFFICIAL /G/ GAMING MOUSE GUIDE
I'm saying that looks ridiculous when you put it on top of your doc, not that you should exclude the mouse marketed as 'gaming'
>>51838011
But it's a guide about mice made specifically for gaming, and their merits for use in gaming
why is the g400 not in god tier yet? baka desu senpai
>>51838346
Out of production
There's already an official mouse guide at logicalincrements.com
It's funny that you're ripping off the logicalincrements tiering system to just make a worse version of it
>>51838476
>ripping off the logicalincrements tiering system
>just make a worse version of it
>>51838476
Go a little further up and read. In fact, I'll save you a job:
>>51820080
CM Storm Recon
+Flawless sensor
+works with any grip
+ambidextrous
+comfy
+switches feel good
+Has 3 individually customizable LEDs (if you're into that)
+Doesn't look retarded
+inexpensive
-ambidextrous
-retarded chink software
-can't change the DPI settings from the 4 predetermined steps (800, 1600, 3200, 4000)
-LEDs don't look as good with some colors, like white and yellow.
>>51819744
top kek
>>51840247
Forgot some things.
+Rubber grip
+9 buttons
-buttons may be too big for some, thus easily pressed
Would've been perfect for me if they allowed customizing of the DPI profiles, and if it had that Logitech free-scroll. Close enough tho.
>>51819502
I am using a 402 also. Love it.
You guys do realize the guy making this guide is the same one who made the Mac vs PC shitposting guide.
He didn't even change the fucking fonts.
>>51819248
Kana V2
+ Simple, slick design
+ Ambidextrous
+ Perfect sensor
+ DPI switch
+ 2 side buttons
+ Palm grip
+ Great price
- Ambidextrous
- Orange (adjustable) LED might put people off
- Only 2 side buttons
- Right side button hard to reach/click
- Weight not customizable
Zowie EC1-A/EC2-A
+ Avago 3310
+ Good quality
+ No software
- A bit too pricey
- Right hand only
+ Tracks amazingly
+ Tracks on fucking everything
+ No software of any Kind
+ Cheap (~ 15 bucks )
+ Durable
+ 2 Pairs of replacement feet included
+ Pretty awesome texture on the top
+ Omron switches on all buttons (!!!!)
- Looks like shit
- Chinese manufacturer
I have this, a G700 and a Performance MX. I prefer this. So much so that I bought one for my work to replace the G700 there aswell.
That says more how shit logitech is rather than how good a4tech is.
Can we have a "MI VIDYA GAMS!" level.
why is every good mouse besides the zowies an ugly riced XxGAMERxX piece of shit ?
>>51840887
Because only gaymers think their mouse is relevant.
>>51840916
it just seems like there'd be a bigger audience for something subtle but reliable. i have a collection of shitty walmart mice with something or other wrong with them, and i'm willing to drop $60 to stop having that issue.
>>51840954
the bigger audience that wants more precision and versatility of dpi are "Gamers." Look at what happened to Corsair when they decided they wanted to go to the tramp stamp cause their research showed a bigger audience of hip tribal tattoo gamers. Think of it like console kids on computers.
Currently the owner of my second Razer Naga in a row. Surprisingly good, the first one was an Epic and had a battery issue but wired has no battery and has given me no grief. Price point is a little high, but if a multitude of programmable macro keys is your idea of a good time it's worthwhile.
Good tier, conditionally great tier
>>51841040
Aside from the 3rd party software...
Best mouse that exists.
>>51820074
>Naos 7000 in 'good-tier'
not sure right there, senpai
>>51840887
Mionix is done tastefully.
>gaymer LEDs
Turn them the fuck off then or dim them.
>>51828439
>WMO
Where can I get one that doesn't have an absurd price in the UK, don't suppose you would be able to help?
>>51819248
for me
Logitech G502, Razer Deathadder 2013 in god tier
steelseries rival in medium tier
the rest in unmentionable
>>51819375
the hell you are talking about, i palm my g502 in and out
cringing at all this gaymer gear.
This is the ak47 of mice. The Logitech would be alright if the cable wasn't complete shit. This was the mouse of choice for quake 3 and cs 1.6 pros and those games required an amazing amount of precision. Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical or gtfo
>>51843544
Don't fancy paying £90 for the 'AK47 of mice' just so I can be equally as pretentious as every other 'non-gamer'.
Although unfortunately a lot of 'gaming' hardware does have an artificial value added. I'm happy with Mionix.
>>51843544
Wait a fucking second... I think we have a load of these in the office which I work in, new and sitting on a shelf.
They're a microsoft mouse of some description, white, although no side buttons... could this perhaps just be another but similar model?
>>51843595
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-Wheel-Mouse-Optical-USB-and-PS-2-Compatible-/321945664075?hash=item4af574fa4b:g:zvEAAOSw7FRWaj5m
and this is for the one with sidebuttons....
>>51843649
Yes these mice are great.
http://esreality.com/post/2024663/mouses-using-flawless-sensors/
>>51843673
>Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0
Yeah, this is the one which I looked for... never found anything below £75 in the UK. Oh well.
I'm using the 402 and I will say that the 502 is better in every way, but I also have no real complaints for my 402. If you're tight on money and don't need all the extra bells and whistles of the g502 then the g402 is an excellent choice.
Logitech G700
+ Never breaks
+ Feels amazing on the hand
+ Lots of buttons
+ DPI choice
+ Good software
- Heavy as fuck
- Wireless barely works
>>51843774
except the cable. its a great mouse and i've had 4 or 5 and the cable always craps out. 1.5 sens in cs 1.6 and 1.0 sens in quake at 400 dpi so around 40cm of travel but that's not really an excuse
>>51826236
I have this mouse as well
Some things to add on
>Pros
Customizable weight
Goes on sale often
>Cons
The software is good except for customizing the colors
No matter what color you make it the DPI indicator buttons stay red as seen in the pic (you can turn them off though)
>>51843370
>G502 -god
>Rival -medium
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>>51843786
>- Wireless barely works
You are a fringe case.
Whelp, last post. I can't justify filling in 3-4 captchas for every little post on this shitty site. Makes no sense.
Any $10 mouse because every mouse is a pile of shit that will break within a year or so unless you're a casual pile of shit.
>>51845130
>2015
>writes aхaхaхaхa using U+0041 and U+0058 instead of the proper cyrillic symbols
bald-pindo-sitcom-character-playing-pindo-sport.ibm100-punchcard
>>51838108
I was actually going to say the same thing as >>51838011
I was reading this as a mouse guide, not so much a gaming mouse guide. I figured gaming mice would just be marked as such.
>>51843786
The side buttons on that mouse feel absolutely disgusting. I'd definitely recommend something like a 602 over that for a wireless mouse.
>>51819681
>>51819670
Thank you anon. I thought /g/ had devolved in to gaymers with their ricer mice.
>>51819752
>Relatively expensive
I got mine for $35 on newegg, but it was refurb, most mouse at retail price are the same price as this tough
>>51819271
- buttons feel like shit
+/- Mousewheel, does it suck like most other Logitech wheels suck nowadays?
>zowie
>god-tier
wondering when are you people gonna stop falling for marketing and overpriced shit that doesn't include any features
>>51843786
--- Buttons feel like shit.
--- Button quality is literal trash.
--- Mousewheel is disgusting, just like on any other new Logishit.
>>51820074
>creating an infographic with nonfree software
le trash
>>51820894
cord on my g400s went in under a year. Using a Sensei for now.
>>51819645
We have an iMac at work that plays games pretty well. (GTX 775M) The only downside is the fucking magic mouse, it literally scrolls and shit randomly.
>>51821117
>for trolling /g/
we are the meme sprouting hivemind
Razer DeathAdder Chroma
+Comfy
+Good software control
+Pretty
-Expensive
-Gets gross
-Need software for core functions of the mouse
-Software isn't that good
>Check M$ site for intellimouse
>This shit
>>51823061
>>51823044
>>51821117
>>51820074
>>51819742
>>51819248
Why all the Logitech shilling? Technically their mice are OK, but both wheel and buttons are crap. I'd take a fucking dell office mouse over that trash any day.
>>51845998
the sculpt ergonomic is qtaf
>>51819375
actually g mice software is THE best thanks to lua scripting integration
Also, g502 is god tier for non-fps (2 heavy event at it lightest 4 fps)
>>51845727
zowie fk is god tier - it has all you need and nothing you dont.
It's worth to mention it has huano switches that are a lot stiffer then omrons - can be a deal breaker for some and a reason to buy for others
>>51846154
Not shilling bro. I don't like Logitech either, but they make good mice. Also, you only need to quote me once. I still get notified.
>>51846154
The guy is a retard, he legit put Zowie on god tier, when it's great-tier
Razer Taipan
+ Ambidextrous
+ Sturdy
+ Wired
+ DPI can be changed using the two buttons below the scrool wheel
+ Comfy
- Clicking with the scroll button will start to get a little dodgy after a few months of use, but will go back to normal
- Sensor gets inaccurate sometimes after a few months of use, but is easily fixed by wiggling the mouse around
- Muh Razer gaymen gear (really only a drawback if you're autistic)
>>51820237
Newer versions of the software work fine and how is the braided cable not good? One con I'd like to add is that theres poor accommodation for ring and pinky fingers
I own a Zowie FK 2 and a DeathAdder Chromeme and having alternated between them on different PCs for about a year now I would say the DeathAdder belongs next to the Zowie on God Tier as far as quality and feel. Software isn't even that annoying. Just my opinion, though.
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