Well, I guess that's it guys, it's over we lost:
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/pirate-bay-founder-peter-sunde-i-have-given-up
>>Peter Sunde, one of the founders and spokespersons of The Pirate Bay, did not start out optimistically.
>>There’s good reason for that: In the last couple of months, the contemporary download culture shows heavy signs of defeat in the battle for the internet.
>>While it might look like torrenters are are still fighting this battle, Sunde claims that the reality is more definitive: “We have already lost.”
>>"... thanks to the centralization of the internet, (possible) censorship or surveillance tech is a whole lot harder to get around. Also, because the internet was an American invention, they also still have control of it and ICANN can actually force any country top level domain to be censored or disconnected."
>>"I’m hoping Donald Trump wins this year’s election. For the reason that it will fuck up that country so much faster then if a less bad President wins"
wtf is the download culture?
>>51814312
white mans rape of african muslim socialist culture.
>>51814312
I'm assuming it's people who autistically download everything for "muh preservation" and seed forever, rather than downloading things they actually want, seeding as long as whatever tracker they're using obligates them to, then disconnecting.
>>51814194
old news
he gave up long as time ago no one cares about this guy.
>>51814312
"information wants to be free i wasnt going to pay for it anyway lol >2015 paying for things guys piracy isnt stealing leanr the difference okay see i can make so many copies that means i dont need to pay mom where are my fucking hot pockets
>>51814194
Let's make a new Internet /g/.
>>51814381
you're even shit at memeing
kill yourself senpai
The most obvious solution is to construct an intranet independent of the infrastructure of current internet
>>51814194
>peter sunde
> the libtard who is 100% SWEDEN YES
> faggot that did nothing but PR
who gives a fuck
>>51814458
Who's gonna foot the bill?
>>51814484
According to marxist theory the people that use it foots the bill. So NEETs of course.
>>51814194
I'm hoping Donal trumps wins too.
That way we can make America great again and the Eurocûcks can keep crying hahaha
>>51814633
then why did a marxist just give his endorsement to trump?
>>51814458
Satellite net maybe?
>>51814194
piuratebay confirmed kekold
FUCK THE JEWS, NET WAR NOW
>>51814666
How is that related to my question?
I only said I want to make America great again and that I want to watch Eurocûcks cry from all the freedumbs we have
>>51814633
>Eurocûcks
>û
Hmm...
It was unreasonable to expect the free ride to last forever.
>>51814194
>I have given up
>(I have grown up)
Did you expect him to host chinese cartoon torrents until he was 90?
>>51814194
TL;DR: switch to IPFS now before it's too late.
Kek software like soulseek or the like will take it's place and nothing will change. For every measure there is hundred countermeasures, not like they'll start to sue millions of people over some pirated movie, too much paperwork and just work.
someone start the gnunet threads again.
why did they die?
>>51814827
Gnunet is a buggy piece of crap and additionally is extremely fucking slow. On top of that, people who uploaded to the /g/ tag never seeded their shit so nobody could ever download it and it was 99.9% dead links.
IPFS > Gnunet in every single way except search and anonymity, but why trust the gnu anonymity system when i2p and tor are out there, well tested, and well audited? And search isn't very useful when it takes hours to get anywhere. An index site is all you need.
The ipfs threads themselves died (having killed the gnunet threads before it because it is the superior technology), because there's not much to discuss. We have an index site at ipfs.io/ipns/gindex.dynu.com which also points to an anime-specific tracker. We have a good collection of roms thanks to some anon who decided to contribute to it. We also have the do/k/ument and the /g/entoomen library, among a lot of shit. Since we didn't have much to talk about and people didn't have much they seemed to want to share, we're waiting for the next IPFS release to restart those threads.
>>51814458
Sounds like a meshnet to me.
https://youtu.be/iWDF0wuVUg8?t=30m49s
>>51814399
I'll make the logo
>>51814194
>piratebay is kill
DOWNLOAD
FUCKING
EVERYTHING!!!
>>51815806
What is it you'll be downloading? Roller Coaster Tycoon Deluxe Edition and the patch for newer Windows version succeeding Windows 98 and ME?
http://thepiratebay.la/
Thank me later plebs.
>>51816065
>http
>>51816073
>http://thepiratebay.la/
FINE https://thepiratebay.vg/
This is bullshit, there will always be alternate ways to download shit other than torrents. People will just move to other sources, like i2p or freenode
>>51814194
But will my animes be affected?
>>51816159
>changing to Centralized Slow and Centralized Tracked from decentralized, distributed and fast
IPFS is the future, faggot. Live it or die.
>>51816212
what is it
>>51816387
p2p file system
>>51814897
>ipfs.io/ipns/gindex.dynu.com
Speaking of this, I can't access it anymore. Did the index guy run into the daemon bug again? Or did he forget to publish his IPNS regularly?
This is now an IPFS thread.
>>51814458
Like the fucking chinks did...?
>>51817454
Racism belongs in /b/ and /pol/.
>>51817464
Okay okay, like the Chinese did?
>>51817483
What did they do? Sounds interesting.
>>51814719
Trump wants to censor the Internet and weaken encryption you fucking faggot.
>>51814348
You got a problem with seeding forever? Somebody has to keep the fucking file available for all of the future leechers.
>>51814194
>Ever trusting a Vice article
HAHAHA, OP is a fucking retard
>>51814764
ipfs doesnt solve anything, you still need site like piratebay to host all the links
>>51816212
both torents and ipfs are decentralized, the difference is torrents have multiple trackers and ipfs have only one (and probably hosted by nsa)
>>51817666
Or, you know, just link to them from the web like a normal person and wait for crawlers to start indexing them. You didn't need a "site like piratebay" for HTTP, why would you need it for its successor?
>>51817715
IPFS has no tracker. It has a DHT.
>>51816175
There's another site for your anime. It's swedish, as well.
It dodges all the bullets because the anime creators don't care about it as much as the western creators do.
>Donald Trump will be a bad president meme
>>51814194
Trust me. I am a hacker and this is my manifesto/\
/\
<> We are download culture <>
<> The users of peer blocker <>
I torrent a lot and have never been caught. My secret is VPN and blackboxing.
The truth is, my downloads are sick and the government is a dick.
>>51817737
>what is magnet
piratebay doesnt host torrents for some time now, yet you still need piratebay for them, the moment you start posting links on your http, nsa is after you
![48ab9a77gw1esfeb1y21gj21hc0u0dpi[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Vl9OAhD.jpg "48ab9a77gw1esfeb1y21gj21hc0u0dpi[1].jpg")
I P V 7
>>51817746
same shit. you still need to connect to ipfs.io to get other peer
>>51817777
Piratebay still uses a tracker: https://openbittorrent.com/ Magnets are just for downloading the torrent files.
>>51817787
>connect to ipfs.io
No, you need to connect to an initial list of peers. It's no different than Tor, i2p or Bitcoin. The list is user configurable.
>>51817777
Oh, I thought you responded to >>51817746. I really don't see the point of your non-sequitur.
>>51817833
but to configure it you woud have to know other peers, and that would be against ipfs logic. default initial list of peers is on ipfs.io, so no matter if you want it or not, you have to connect to them, i bet noone ever configured its list. at this point we can say ipfs.io is a kind of a tracker
>>51817883
It's not on ipfs.io. It's in your config file. That you got from a signed package in your package manager.
>at this point we can say ipfs.io is a kind of a tracker
Tracker-based protocols don't allow peers to share the IP of other peers amongst themselves. It's a DHT. It has a name. Use it.
>but to configure it you woud have to know other peers
>i bet noone ever configured its list
The point is that you can set up your own intranet if you happen to be paranoid about someone knowing you run an ipfs node, for some reason..
>that would be against ipfs logic
Not really?
I've noticed this a lot too
Its so hard to find shit online now
>>51817963
>It's not on ipfs.io. It's in your config file
ipfs.io is on that list, and like i said probably noone changed it, if someone is paranoid he would you something anonymous like i2p/freenet and making your own intranet looks good only on paper, you would have to know others and this would reveal you and you dont want really this when you are paranoid about everything
>vice
thread hidden
>>51814399
I P F S
P
F
S
>>51814458
I routinely go to my local park with a portable router and just open a public wifi AP just sitting on a bench.
People who log onto it are greeted to an FTP landing page with my entire collection of music, movies, anime, etc. I stay until my battery packs run low or I don't see any clients for awhile.
I've been playing around with the idea of a separate network composed of just wifi routers from house to house with files floating around all the time.
no global web required.
>>51818046
>ipfs.io is on that list
So what? You were saying the entire list of peers came from a single node, why the backpedalling? My computer might also end up on your list of peers if you keep the daemon running long enough. Why would that matter?
>if someone is paranoid he would you something anonymous like i2p
So do that?
>you would have to know others and this would reveal you
What. The use case is a CDN or an intranet web for a single company. You seem to be confused about the point of the web.
Will there ever be a new internet resembling the late 90s' early 2000s'?
tl;dr
>Network model of the internet has been moved away from and replaced with centralization
>It's too late to fix the "open internet" since it hasn't been open in a longass time
>This is more or less because people treat the internet as virtual life and not a part of real life with actual consequences
>Internet needs to crash and burn
>People (hopefully) will learn what went wrong
>Guy hopes that in the coming years the profit model of capitalism will completely collapse as robots take all of our jobs
>cue marxism
>>51814897
>Gnunet is a buggy piece of crap
What kind of bugs does it have?
>>51818246
If every machine could be treated as a server, we wouldn't have a problem.
>>51818285
Distributed model of networking doesn't work very well.
Meshnets are not without their problems.
>>51818210
Yes, in another 10 years when the internet as we know it now is saturated and broken, new mininets will pop up. people will self network these mininets together and they will grow to become the new net, where only the select few who are knowledgeable enough to configure their machines to work on this net will be able to join.
>>51814633
back to /pol/
>Let's destroy the internet
>Let's hope total automation of jobs causes rapid wealth inequality
>Let's hope Trump gets elected
>Shitty tech startups that don't sell products should eventually crash and burn
Now this is cyberpunk.
If I had to guess, the death of the internet will be likely be linked due to a crash of the next dotcom bubble. As soon as advertisement and data mining becomes unsustainable, our current internet will become isolated. As soon as rich hipster faggots in Silicon Valley stop being able to make jewmillions from stuff like reinventing the IM client, Airbnb, simple apps and simple games, they'll have to adapt.
>>51818408
How do we make it crash faster?
>>51814458
This is dumb. You can use all the cabling and existing infrastructure. There's nothing inherently wrong with it. It's just how domain names are allocated that is a problem.
>>51818452
Take content that isn't yours, beat it like a dead horse for every fucking penny.
>>51818408
>Now this is cyberpunk
YES
E
S
i'll live on my marginally above average wage and see the fall of the once great internet, ready to embrace what comes next.
>>51818452
cut the cables, john.
>>51818452
For starters I think Safari's plan to implement on-by-default adblockers should be a huge problem for stuff like monetization of the web. I see most of the problems we have now from the profit model of the internet; consider facebook, buzzfeed-esque clickbait, etc.
I see advertisement as an unsustainable model that will eventually crash in a second dotcom bubble, i think most people can agree we're where we were 15-20 years ago when the dotcom bubble popped.
Why cant we just put dollar bills and credit cards in our 3.5" floppy drives?
>>51814633
banning Muslims is enough to get my vote.
>>51818483
>You can use all the cabling and existing infrastructure. There's nothing inherently wrong with it.
What about the owners? Yeah, I guess they can be changed, but is that even feasible without some kind of major war?
D Trump getting ready to slide this country real fast
>>51817761
The name would be appreciated
>>51814194
Why exactly are the trackers not just moving to Tor, if they're so worried about being taken down? You only need to transfer little data between client and tracker, so it should work fine.
>>51817761
>tfw the director of BPS even apologized to western anime pirates for only making a few episodes
Oh they DO care, anon ;_;7
Just not about the money.
>>51814194
Even for the wrong reasons, he's still supporting the best candidate.
Based.
>vice.com
nope
>>51819204
On a scale of faggot/faggot how much of a faggot am i for downloading the anime just for the blonde
rump will never win nor will internet crash, google wont allow this
>>51818246
>>This is more or less because people treat the internet as virtual life and not a part of real life with actual consequences
I think it's more the opposite, actually. People started to intertwine real life with the Internet. Before the turn of the decade, posting any personal information online is considered dangerous.
>>51819288
>falling in love with a cartoon
about a 4/10 on the degeneracy scale
>>51818124
I like it, will try it myself sometime
>>51819322
who is rump? is trumps even more retard brother?
>>51814312
The one where you have to dodge a million ads and awesomedownloadmanagerpro.exe's to get to an actual torrent and hope it's content aren't malicious.
What a time to be alive
>vice
kill yourself
>TPB is kill
>surface web becomes unusable due to TTIP and other retarded shit
>law-enforcement doesn't know about my 250 person filesharing ring deep beneath the surface
>ayy lmao
>>51819877
your mothers son
Pic related
>>51817642
Fucking this. God, he's right, the internet at the moment is like sitting in a playground where one kid has like 500 lollipops and won't share them with the other kids; people are forgetting how to share.
>>51814194
>>51814194
ipfs and tor can fix this problem
>>51820346
what problem?
>>51820346
>contemporary download culture
>centralization of the internet
>censored or disconnected
>>51820319
>one kid has like 500 lollipops and won't share them with the other kids
I'm that kid.
>>51820550
high five m8
>>51814194
>I’m hoping Donald Trump wins this year’s election. For the reason that it will fuck up that country so much faster then if a less bad President wins
kek i'm hoping for this too. USA is literally the reddit of countries, so cancerous and faggy.
>>51814194
The internet is actually a British invention.
>>51814194
That liberal kek is just mad because everyone who used the pirate bay moved to kickass the last time it was taken down.
just upload encrypted torrents and share the key with tor
>>51816175
yes, get cancer
>>51816387
It's a fully decentralized and distributed mean of sharing files, which uses full content addressing, supports dynamic names, and encrypts all communications. It's already super-fast, too: you can stream 1080p videos over ipfs just fine. See ipfs.io for more details.
>>51817395
Still works for me, I think some DNS just dropped the TXT entry for some reason. Might be fixed within a day or so when the name propagates back, if it does. In the meantime, try accessing the site by using
ipfs.io/ipns/QmaGks9KKzu2WykHQj
JFJkcUAN4ZoF7ok9h2hXj1WQn47U
instead.
>>51818268
One bug it shares with ipfs is that the daemon can stop responding to requests after a while. More importantly, half the operations in the GUI cause segfaults, different runs of the daemon can fail to find peers or find them instantly (obviously not due to pathing issues, the peers don't magically appear and disappear within 10s windows), it fails to compile with most valid options, there is no way to close a transmission if an error happened, the speed display is incorrect (shows bytes per seconds instead of kilobits per second) etc.
Despite all that, the most important issue is the speed. 10 bits per second is nowhere near what's required to make it viable.
>>51818285
That's what IPFS is for. For fully dynamic content (i.e. telling a server to add content to a database, not client-side applications which are considered static even if they allow you to play atari games in your browser), there's ethereum and maidsafe.
>>51815806
just download TPB database dump.
They dumped before when TPB was threathened, i hope they will now.
Old dump was ~2.700.000 torrents afaik and 800Mb
>>51814194
Has nothing to do with them giving up on their site, then coming back and saying we're back (which people don't trust), then saying they don't remove known viruses anymore.
I don't think I know anyone that uses tpb anymore.
>>51822165
So he can go from sharing with millions to sharing with a thousand people. He'd be better off getting 800 Mbs of bleeding dick pics at least he'd have something anyone could jack off to.
>>51822241
I'm not suggesting you just use that to torrent some stuff.
my idea was to have it so when there will be an opportunity for a decentralized pirate bay, you can load the DB
>>51822424
Upload dat shiet to ipfs, and you've got your decentralized piratebay already.
>>51822712
It's pretty basic
torrent name, hash, size, category and stuff like seeders and leechers which aren't accurate
>>51822020
>ipfs.io/ipns/QmaGks9KKzu2WykHQj
>JFJkcUAN4ZoF7ok9h2hXj1WQn47U
I tried that too, but I still get a "Path Resolve error: could not resolve name.". It doesn't matter if I route it through ipfs.io or localhost. I saved an old ipfs image of it, so I can access that just fine, but the name resolution gives me nothing.
The DNS record shows up fine, by the way. That was the first thing I tried.
>>51822903
Huh. Just tried it again. ipfs.io gave me the error, but localhost loaded. And after that ipfs.io does work. I'm starting to think either me or the index guy has some network issues or something. I remember this happening once before, when he had just pushed a new IPNS and no one else had requested it. This time it has been going on for over a week, though.
>>51822981
Looks like the issue is on your end since it always worked for me (except gindex.dynu.com was not resolving on ipfs.io for a while, but the raw ipns name worked fine).
>>51814312
The one where copyright isn't authors life + 200 years, and every derivative work being illegal.
Relevant: http://i.imgur.com/dXbWOR9.gif
>>51823015
I'd think that too if it wasn't for the problems happening with ipfs.io too. Not really sure what could be the problem. I've never seen anything like it. Not that my free-ass shit-ISP has the best track record, though. I'll have more time to test it with another ISP over Christmas, maybe I can figure something out.
>>51823081
What the fuck man.
>Well, yeah, I totally agree with that. I’m a socialist. I know Marx and communism did not work before, but I think in the future you have the possibility of having total communism and equal access to everything for everybody. Most people I meet, no matter if they are a communist or a capitalist, agree with me on this, because they understand the potential.
>this is what /g/ unironically supports
>>51823144
Sounds like a perfectly reasonable and non-controversial statement? Or have you been living in Murrca your whole life or something?
Meh.
I'm so incredibly sorry for this stupid question, but here goes:
My ISP gives me unlimited upload data and I have several computers lying around doing nothing. How can I make the internet a better place for p2p and file sharing?
>>51823221
Wasn't the le joos meme about extreme capitalism and greed anyway? Or has it become a way to dismiss whatever opinion you disagree with without making any argument whatsoever?
>>51823293
>My ISP gives me unlimited upload data
So does all ISPs?
>>51823293
Run the ipfs daemon and pin files that you like.
>>51823310
Jews created communism. They attempted to overthrow germany and convert it to communism prior to world war 2.
It's why Hitler tried to gas them all.
>>51823102
And now the Totoro tracker gives the same problem, both with localhost and ipfs.io. Wat.
>>51823360
Nice revisionism.
>>51823338
It looks to be Linux only. I don't mind installing it if need be on an old machine, but are there similar options for Windows?
>>51823388
It does have a binary for Windows. I haven't tried it, though, but others have had success. You can download it from ipfs.io.
>>51823388
>it looks like linux-only
>freebsd, linux, windows and mac binaries readily available on the download page
Kill yourself my man.
>>51823381
Read about it yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx
>>51823361
I'm having the same problem right now. Guess I'll go ahead and pin the latest totoro when it comes back online.
>>51823404
I'm out having lunch and I'm on my phone. Sorry for not doing exhaustive Google searches. You're the kind of person that drives people away from technology.
>>51823399
Thank you for being helpful. I'll look into installing it when I get home
>>51823459
Use duckduckgo instead of google anon.
>>51823459
No problem. It's "hidden" behind the "See all builds" link, though. Also note that it's a CLI program, so just double clicking it won't start it properly. Open it in a terminal and read the Getting Started section to learn what arguments to give it.
>>51823459
>literally the one and only page you should be looking at
>requiring an extensive google search for some reason
>despite the fact it's literally the first google link when looking for ipfs
>despite the fact the site was linked a few times itt
You're a special kind of retard.
/ipfs/Qmb27zLgSTCWNufr
eYtRRNSxL1EG2GCvESZivaGJzEBb7b/
Can't you just use a private proxy to securely download torrents?
>>51823599
No, anon. That would be slow as fuck.
>>51823503
Roger, thanks a lot for the info!
>>51823610
Private proxies are much faster than those free proxies you use to shitpost here.
>>51823663
That's assuming you have a private one anon. Sucks to be living in the US. The rest of the world can freely pirate
