>all amd graphics cards up to and including the 7000 series are no longer supported by amd driver releases
why the fuck is this allowed?
>>51813512
because you have to be a good goy and update your hardware often
>>51813512
Because Terascale is 7 years old.
Honestly, they've pushed the hardware as far as it can go that's all.
Be glad you didn't buy Nvidia and you get updates that actually gimp performance.
>>51813512
7000 series are still supported as far as they're gcn.
Where do you see this?
I saw the 6000 and earlier series perish because they are not GCN. Where's it say about 7000 series?
>>51813543
>>51813531
but the 7990 was released mid 2013 for example. amd have stopped supporting it with drivers already.
>>51813592
They have not, retard. 7990, along with 7970 down to 7730 is GCN.
>>51813512
because the 7000 series is really old. You're an nVidiot who got it confused with the HD 7000 series which is still supported.
>>51813512
>Using AMD
Well there's your problem
>just cause flickering on my 8 year old gtx 280
>updated to latest drivers
>all fixed + 20% performance boost
Feels good
>>51813512
I doubt that. Most of the 7000 series were rehashed for the R9 200 series.
>>51813650
>Using nvidia and getting your 780 gimped
vs
>Using amd and getting support for years even after new card releases and then eventually no longer being supported
>>51813512
Why is NVIDIA allowed to release gpu crippling drivers to cards that are only 2 gens old to promote you getting the latest?
>>51813685
well actually I use nvidia because they produce more powerful cards
>>51813682
Holy shit
>>51813682
For example, 7950 is essentially R9 280. 7970 is R9 280x. Do you really think they dropped driver support for these after only one generation?
>implying Nvidia still supports Fermi
They might say they do, but the new drivers you download actually do nothing for these old cards.
>>51813769
Prove it rajeet
>>51813512
All GCN cards (7000 and newer) are still supported.
>Use Nvidia, get rock solid driver support Windows, OSX & Linux even for legacy cards
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/94790/en-us
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142
>The Linux 340.* legacy driver series is the last to support the G8x, G9x, and GT2xx GPUs, and motherboard chipsets based on them. Support for new Linux kernels and X servers, as well as fixes for critical bugs, will be included in 340.* legacy releases through the end of 2019.
>Use AMD, get FUCKED
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5775/amd-hd-2000-hd-3000-hd-4000-gpus-being-moved-to-legacy-status-in-may
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9815/amd-moves-pre-gcn-gpus-to-legacy
>>51813859
Old as gpus now being classified as old as hell. Shocker.
>>51813708
Actually amd makes more powerful cards. Nvidia cards are better optimized and perform better but they are less powerful.
>>51813879
>Old as gpus
>4 years is old
i bet you are one of those faggots who buys a new cpu every year
>>51813859
Is anybody running Linux really using Catalyst anymore? At about the same time that they pushed that update AMD added tessellation support to Mesa for cards using r600 that support it.
Once Mesa gets OpenGL 4.3, which could be in the next release now that compute shader support is in, there really won't be any reason to run Catalyst.
>>51813891
right, AMD has something that can compare to the titan or 980 ti
Show me
>>51813953
R9295X2 blows them out of the water
>>51813924
You can still use them. Just because they don't get any new drivers doesn't make the old ones stop working.
>>51813859
>mfw my 770 will be supported for years to come
feels good fuck AMD i'd rather spend the extra hundred bucks and have a reliable card with a company that wont go belly up or bull shit like this
>>51813953
It's called the Fury X.
>>51813953
On paper the Fury X wrecks their shit. In benchmarks/real world, they trade blows fairly evenly.
If the Fury ages as well as the 7970, it will be relevant for a good long while. I'm curious how long my 290x will keep trucking.
>>51813972
>2 cards vs one
oh lawd
>>51813999
>If the Fury ages as well
looks like amd will be dropping support after 4 years, so enjoy it while it lasts tbqh
>>51813981
>770 still supported
>keked by the 128 bit bus Maxwell meme card
>>51813512
7950 and 7970 are still supported.
>>51813999
>on paper
But in reality the 980 ti still performs better at both 1080p and 4k
>>51814002
Actually it is a single card. It's multi GPU like the GTX 690. Nice b8
>>51814091
>4k
That is incorrect.
>>51813512
why are retards like you even allowed to post on this board, please proceed to delete yourself
>>51814013
Oh no my video card will ONLY last me 4 years. 4 years in tech is like a decade. You're saying that over the course of 4 YEARS you cant come up with the $600 or so required to buy their next big flagship? I understand milking the card for a while but jesus. After 4 years even with full driver support, whatever card you bought will be either way louder/hotter than a new gpu that gives the same if not better performance, or just straight up outdated and incapable of keeping up with current gen games.
I mean just look at a card such as the gtx 580. 250watt consumption and was the flagship when it was released in 2010. The gtx 960 performs around the same and usually better and for way less while running cooler and quieter.
>inb4 someone claims im shilling or posts a jew picture
As I said im all for keeping hardware so long as it makes sense to do so. If you have a job, even a really shitty burger flipping one, $600 over 4 years is nothing. Spend more than that on cheetohs and mtn dew over 3 months.
>>51814161
good fucking goy the post
>>51814161
The 960 fucking runs circles around the 580.
What you meant was the 950.
>>51814030
Dont worry it was just a stop gap while i was low on money and not playing much vidya
used to have a 290 that shit itself currently waiting for new cards around 2017
>>51814219
Even worse then! The gtx 950 is what, $150ish? Again ill emphasize that I'm completely on board with running hardware for as long as is feasible. My 390 should handle 1440p reasonably well. But if next year a card is released that gives 50% performance at the same resolution while using less power and running cooler? Ill be buying it.
>>51814149
>relative performance
>reference 980ti
you AMD shills are retarded as fuck, even if you could fudge the numbers enough to show the fury x as superior to the 980ti (you obviously can't otherwise you wouldn't be posting these shill graphs), the fury x is still bottlenecked by it's vram and stutters in the majority of new games when running at 4k.
>>51813685
Why would you need support for years? If you play games you obviously need to stay on the bleeding edge of tech, you're not doing that just by updating your stupid drivers.
>>51813859
>>Use Nvidia, get rock solid driver support Windows, OSX & Linux even for legacy cards
Because Nvidia can't just outright abandon the millions of servers still running decade old quadro cards.
>>51814436
Not him but Quadro cards use their own drivers, not Geforce.
>>51813512
Which drivers are you talking about?
>>51814475
It's per architecture not per card
>>51814515
False, Quadro cards use their very own drivers seperate from Geforce in the same architecture.
>>51814536
Yes, they optimize it for the architecture then split the drivers up. There's a reason why the oldest supported consumer card happen to be the same architecture as the quadro lineup.
>>51813641
This.
7000 series is ages old
>>51814720
Still relevant if you want to play the latest games on low/medium 1080p. An overclocked 6970 will easily match a 270x.
Not if amd can help it though. I feel sorry for those who bought a $999 6990.
>updating your drivers
literally why
>>51813512
What advantages are you going to get on your 7000 series card with the latest driver? None.
>>51814806
>None
Because it doesn't work with the abandoned cards? Is that the joke?
>>51814776
>Still relevant if you want to play the latest games on low/medium 1080p. An overclocked 6970 will easily match a 270x.
not even low/medium, a 2gb 6950 can even still play most games at high settings.
i would still be using mine if the vram hadn't died after 5 years
>>51814870
Shits not even that old. It released in q4 2010 but most people didn't get their hands on it till q2/3 2011. That's sandy bridge era.
>>51813512
>why the fuck is this allowed?
At least they don't lie to you about whether it is supported or not.
Geforce cards older than the 9xx series are supported in name only. The drivers are included in the package, but they haven't touched them ever since the 9xx series launched, other than bumping the version number, or worse, removing optimizations.
>>51814972
>removing optimizations.
[citation needed]
>>51813859
>>Use Nvidia, get rock solid driver support Windows, OSX & Linux even for legacy cards
Then move to a newer version of Windows or OSX, and suddenly none of them will ever get proper support because they want you to buy their new cards instead.
>>51813859
AMD has open radeon on linux while Nvidia has nothing comparable to it. Old ATI/AMD cards are supported out of the box by default on Linux, they may not optimal but they still provide good performance.
>>51814149
>techpowerup benchmarks
Techpowerup is a known nvidia shill site.
Go to any Radeon news articles, and the top "related article" will be the one where they bitch about how they won't review the Fury because AMD won't send them samples.
But whenever a Geforce card launches, the entire front page is nothing but articles about every card launched by every company.
>>51814986
>[citation needed]
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/831639/geforce-700-600-series/nvidia-is-deliberately-downgrading-kepler-gpus-performance-in-favor-of-maxwell-/1/
A fucking 960 is outperforming the 780 ti.
>>51814972
Don't forget how nvidia removed support for more than 3 monitors per GPU on linux
https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/579449/?comment=3962397
They did it to maintain parity with windows.
>tfw my ati 7500 that I used to play Desert combat with is no longer supported
Why do amd users try to down play a major issue by changing subjects?
>>51813677
750 ti outperforms that and costs 80$
>>51815197
what now? We/I havent.
Its fucking shitty, but what do you want?
Honestly, I'm surprised they didnt do it sooner.
They've been hyping up GCN for so long, it was pretty obvious they weren't going to keep putting engineering resources to supporting ancient history.
>>51815197
Why is it that nvidia users will forever remain in denial about the 3.5gb/4 vram debacle with the gtx 970? How could they downplay such a major issue?
>>51813703
they really don't, memelord.
>>51815227
And I believe it to be a good move. AMD is hurting enough as it is overall as a company. Cut funding where it doesnt make sense. I.e. keeping old architectures on life support.
>>51815271
>force your old users to upgrade via artificial depreciation
>they buy Nvidia
as expected of amd
>>51815194
It's supported on linux. Hell ATI rage GPUs are still receiving bug fixes and feature updates on linux.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=xorg-r128-new-release
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY4MjM
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE5NDE
>>51815252
Ive seen it happen though.
Have a 770 which used to score over 7k on firestrike paired with an i3 4370 now it doesnt even get to 6.5k after the latest driver update
>>51815327
>Stopping support for older hardware as a business decision to save money is now somehow the same as purposefully making the hardware worse.
I said I agree with their decision to do so based on a business view point only. They're saving money. I do however wish they offered support for longer.
>>51814109
The 690 is two cards......
>>51813572
>>51813633
>gcn
/thread
>>51814149
>reference 980ti
1/10 shilling m8
>>51813512
>all amd graphics cards up to and including the 7000 series are no longer supported by amd driver releases
Hence the "no drivers" meme.
>>51815246
And the amd shills who still claim that 3.5 is not enough vram for a normal user playing at 1080p
>>51815503
>its fine i'll just restrict myself
>nvidia did no wrong 3.5 is fine
like a true c uck, enjoy never being able to play non-shit games on ultra while having 2 other monitors with other activities going.
Enjoy being a loser from /v/
I don't see what's wrong with this? Those GPUs don't even support dx12 at a hardware level.
GCN is an architecture built to last, what happened to that benchmark where the 290x btfo a 980 ti?
>>51815503
Wow. That is just amazing. Like buying a brand new car. Looks great. Awesome specs on paper. Until you find the car constantly backfires and makes horrendous grinding noises with anything over 65mph.
Its not about "oh 3.5gb is enough for me!" it's about getting what you paid for. It's about getting what it says on the fucking box and STILL says on the fucking box to this day. 4gb.
>inb4 but there is 4gb! Its just the last 0.5gb is slower than the rest is all!
people still buy amd?
>>51815669
Your mum stil buys muh dik
>>51813512
The 7730 and up are still supported as they are GCN. The old terascale cards are no longer supported and have been pushed to their limit anyway.
>>51813576
Only the low end non GCN cards.
>>51813859
>>Use AMD, get FUCKED
Man, fuck this shit. Fuck this shit so hard.
>Be me in 2014
>Own a Core 2 Duo laptop with an AMD GPU from like 2009 or 2010
>Want to use Linux on it
>Open source driver doesn't fully support this GPU and the laptop refuses to do 2D hardware acceleration with it, resulting in a choppy desktop experience rendered 100% by the CPU, causing nearly constant 80-100% CPU load
>Let's check out Catalyst then
>Doesn't support GPU because AMD moved it to legacy already
>Okay then, that's fine, let's check the legacy driver
>Incompatible with current Linux kernel, have to go back like 3 versions for the driver to work
>Fuck this
>Back to Windows 7, at least it has drivers for the laptop
Man, fuck that shit. Fuck AMD. I recently got a Sandy Bridge laptop without a dedicated GPU and it's one of the best decisions I've made in a long time.
Not because of the upgrade in CPU power, the Core 2 Duo was plenty for me, but because Intel drivers on Linux actually fucking work for more than 2 years.
>>51815922
>linux
>using anything but intel IGP
You deserved it.