Is the 960 still worth it? What other card can I get for around 270$? Go for AMD instead?
380, 380x
way better in every single way.
>>51772121
Amd meme
>>51772149
nvidia shill
>>51772121
Really? Even if I can get the 4GB 960? 380/X only comes ib 2GB I suppose.
>>51772157
NO DRIVERS
>>51772149
>>51772157
>>51772230
Guys focus! ;_;
>>51772183
380/x does come in 4gb. Is this bait or are you naturally a goober?
>>51772107
got the 960 2gb phantom power for 180 bucks cause the packaging was damaged.
It's an amazing card because it's super efficient and uses about 7-10w in idle which isn't much more than an intel hd igpu.
Performance is enough for me since I'm not a l33t-gaymer anymore.
Plays Witcher 3 in high-ultra settings with smooth fps.
if you really wanna maximize performance and don't care about electricity bills ( read: if you live at your parents') you should probably go with a AMD card.
I didn't because I actually don't like house fires and mainly use the card in my hackintosh anyway.
>>51772107
It's worth it when you pick it up for about $220 or so.
It's the best value for the money in the NVIDIA series. The ?60 always has been too. That being said, if it doesn't give you the framrates you want, it won't matter about the value, you won't be happy.
This card gives me more FPS than my monitor can show in 90% of the games I play. I play in 1080p and have a second 1080p monitor running non-3D applications, and the 960 handles it like a champ.
Basically, if it gets you enough frames to make you happy, and you get it for $250 total or less, then you've done well and you'll have a GPU that will last for a long time, yet not make you feel bad for upgrading in the future - since it wasn't as big of an investment as, say, a 980 Ti or something like that.
For full disclosure, I always get the ?60 of the NVIDIA lines, and I've tried the following cards in the past (so I'm not called a shill). I'm not comparing them, but I've played the field on brands.
GTS 250
GTX 460
GTX 550 Ti (2x SLI)
HD 7970
R9 270 (2x Crossfire)
GTX 980 Ti
In my experience, the price goes up significantly from the ?60 to the ?70 and the performance drops significantly from the ?60 to the ?50. Anything ?50 is GTS typically, anything ?60 and above is GTX, showing as well a difference in framework. Less than ?50 is just GT. Always get a GTX when getting NVIDIA, as that's the first card in the line that's high performance and the lowest cost, packing the biggest punch for your money.
Again, this isn't stuff I'm sourcing because it's from my experience. I couldn't care less about brand, I want to have fun in games and also have things like Chrome GPU acceleration work well. Plus if you use Linux NVIDIA is generally better with Linux drivers.
>>51772339
Forgot to mention, my current card is an EVGA GTX 960 4GB. Works awesome in Linux (my primary OS) and also in Windows. I typically depend on it for the GPU acceleration of the browser, but I play games now and again - and I just want them to run well and look great when I do have time to relax.
>>51772107
From my recent search/purchase, the 960 is a $200 (US) card. You could honestly probably find it for about $170-180 if you looked hard enough. I actually went for a Zotac GTX 950 AMP which was $40 cheaper and actually keeps up with the 960 in most benchmarks that I saw (within 5 frames usually).
You should be able to do better than a 960 for that price if its in US (970 or amd equivalent).
>>51772421
In the past (not sure about 900-line and on!) the ?50 cards used to be GTS and not GTX, which were a bit weaker (maybe doesn't affect FPS in some 3D games, but might have less of some types of compute cores/CUDA cores).
I do believe you that the performance is similar. It might not become noticeable until you enable things that are more "feature" than "performance" in games or 3D applications.
>>51772512
If you're the guy above, I also had a GTS250 so I was a little confused at why they named it differently. The name is actually GTX 950 though, I don't think there is a GTS in the 9 series at all yet.
In the 900 series the 960->970 seems to be the big performance jump, honestly.
I am sure your wife's son will appreciate it.
>>51772107
get a 390 for 20-30 bucks more. I run skyrim with illusion enb and 300 mods at 60fps(it goes up to 114 fps if I undo vsync) after optimizing the ini's for 8gb. Every other game I get a solid 60fps like in fallout. I only got it a week ago so idk about any problems it may have had before then tho
>>51772260
I got a 380 over the Black Friday sales, its pretty great, so if the difference between the 380 and X is big enough then pick up the X
>>51772121
It has severe overheating problems if you live in the south.
Just get a gtx 970 for 30 bucks more. It even comes with rainbow six siege for free.
>>51772107
Retards ITT
I got the 960 VERY WORTH IT.
Should note i bought it for $150 New. Literally best bang for buck.
It was never worth it
>>51773781
PS:
For those still delusional on the 960.
I'm currently browsing the chans 5 tabs open. playing a 1080p video on YT and playing FO:4 on a playable frame rate.
AT THE SAME TIME
960 is GOAT
290/970 at least or else you'll regret it. They're not that much more expensive.
>>51773822
FO:4 is on ultra settings also.
GTX 960 2gb. what a fucking beast.
ITT: plebs, retards, and viral marketers.
>>51773822
you could do that on any midrange card
>>51773933
for $150.
that's what i'm talking about you fucking sperg. BEST BANG FOR BUCK.
i'll take the 960 over anything. I dont' have money to drop on a 970 or whatever the AMD equivalent is. Besides i dont gayme like most of you fucking nerds.
>>51773965
>>51773933
>>51773833
Not everyone wants to spend 350+ on a gaymen card.
960 is significantly faster than the 950 and only a few bucks more.
>>51772107
As others have said, the r9 380 is around the same price and performs marginally better with a marginally higher power consumption. It's one of the few cards from AMDs current lineup that runs the latest version of GCN so the features are very up to date.
The 960 is also a very good choice with very similar performance. Slightly better power efficiency but nothing to write home about. If either are on sale, go for the one on sale. If neither are on sale I'd personally go for the 380 because of the slightly better performance.
>>51773965
>>51773988
Slower than the 7970/7950/280/280x/380/380x
>>51774392
Find me any of those cards for $150 NEW
>le kill yerself .jpg
>>51772149
>>51774461
>NEW
irrelevant
>>51774461
The GTX 960 doesn't sell for less than $170 and that is for the shitiest 2gb model.
>>51772107
>270$
>960
Are you fucking serious? I bought a fucking 290x for 220$ on ebay
>>51774754
enjoy your amd housefire :)
Nah just kiddin. I'd get an amd if their efficiency and drivers weren't so shit
>>51774754
>>51774619
i bought it for $150 new and yes it is relevant. i want the smell of new. i like my pussy virgin.
i aint no c.uck like you faggots.
>>51774778
>on ebay
Not him but I'd be somewhat cautious. There are probably still a few miner cards knocking around and you never know how well they were treated.
>>51774780
>Muh efficiency
rofl are you serious kiddo
fuckin mom-dweller
>>51772107
MFW 960
I've got a 480, it's still going strong. (although I do keep a fire extinguisher nearby just in case)
With FO4 and GTAV I'm just now starting to be tempted with the idea of an upgrade.
IMO save a little and get the best card for the money (e.g. 980ti) and you'll be set for years.
>>51774838
>fuckin mom-dweller
uh...you know you actually care more for efficiency once you move out of the basement and paying your bills.
Have fun with loud fans and buying a new psu for muh 5+ fps
>>51774796
they just werk
>hardware encoders come on vidya card now
it isn't too bad for record keeping, may not be pristine quality but it certainly keeps you from shelling out for hard drives.
>>51775030
The diference is like 8$ a year.
>>51775016
>set for years.
Is there that big of a difference? I have a 970 right now and it struggling to play most news and even some older games at highest settings.
I was thinking of either stepping up to a 980ti or trying to old out a year for new cards and run games on medium.
>>51772107
I bought a 290X for $250 in the summer. It's refurb and reference so it's hot as fuck but I get a lot more performance out of it than my friend does with his 960 (2GB).
380 or 380X is much better for the price.
You can easily find 970s in the $250 range.
I need a graphics card for a second rig. It will watch YouTube, do uni shit and 4chan, and receive steam in home streaming from my other pc doing most of the work. Would a 960 be good or is that overkill? The more I spend on this the less I have for my main pc gpu
REMINDER
GTX960 HAS THE SAME GIMPED RAM AS THE 970 DO NOT BUY
>>51773988
Reference 290 is $213 and blows the 960 away.
>>51772107
>Is the 960 still worth it? What other card can I get for around 270$?
These sentences don't make sense to me. The 960 is nowhere near $270, so why are you asking for another card that price point to compare it to?
>>51772421
>From my recent search/purchase, the 960 is a $200 (US) card.
Less than that, really. With a bit of looking around you can have one in your hands with a warranty for about $180.
>>51772121
Not for blender m8
>>51778189
In what category?
3d performance, sure. But what about noise, heat, and power?
You should be able to find a 290 for this price
got my tri-x oc for 240€
way better than a 380 or 380x
for $270 the best value you will find is the b-stock gtx970, once overclocked it smokes pretty much every other card in it's price bracket and competes with the 390x and stock 980
>>51778476
Maybe he means canadia britbux
>two 7970s for sale for $250 for both
worth it guys?
other option is a 290x for $250
>>51780601
Will you need to buy a new PSU? If not grab the 2 7970s. Also keep in mind that 2 cards are going to create more heat as well.
I have at the most $300 to spend so I'm looking around and I found a R9 390 to upgrade to from a XFX R9 280x
or maybe I look for a used R9 290x?
>>51781452
Depends which 390 and which used 290x you're talking about.
>>51781554
It's the reference 290x and the XFX R9 390
I have always had the 660m in my laptop ( I move alot), runs most things pretty well.
What does /g/ think?
>>51781576
The reference 290x gets hot as fuck, someone is the 90s. The only 390s really worth getting are the Powercolor and the Sapphire ones. MSI is already, but warranty issues apparently and isn't the coolest.
>>51780601
2x 7970 is more powerful overall and with games that support crossfire, they will be better.
However I'd go for 290X simply because its a better single card, which means you won't have to rely on crossfire.
>>51781635
>someone
sometimes*
I'm also in that $300 price range, but I'm waiting to see if the Sapphire 390 goes back on sale like it did for Black Friday. Otherwise I'm grabbing the Powercolor one for $299 at newegg (before rebate), even though it takes up 3 slots instead of 2.
>>51781635
Hmm I see what if the r9 390 was around 250 the XFX one and I might try to look into the sapphire one I've always heard good about their cards.
>>51781677
There's some Russian website I found off a reddit thread that compared all the brands, but its on my work laptop and I can't find the link at home. Just look up brand comparisons.
In general the PCS+ and the Nitro are neck and neck so it really just comes down to looks and brand loyalty/customer service. The other cards either have a lower TDP, shorter length (the two cards are 12" each) and as a result higher temps or louder fans. Sapphire is generally the go to brand for AMD GPUs for a reason. Although I really don't want to pay the extra $34 if I don't have to.
>>51774778
that was a really good price, the lowest I could find was $245 + free shipping.
>>51782046
It was an auction
Why should anyone get a 390 over a 970 when frames keep dropping?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15wOp7_dD8E
>>51773965
4GB 380 that outperforms it for $160
>>51783650
i was going to get a 390 till i saw this..
>>51783834
I have a 390 and i run fallout 4 with no framedrops
all you need to do is runs the tessellation limiter at x32 and run window/borderless mode and your golden
>>51783865
Hmm alright thanks for the info
>>51772121
All the benchmarks I've seen show that amd only have
>higher power usage
>higher temps
>worse price to performance ratio
>>51783955
This happens if you only look at benchmarks paid by Nvidia rather than testing them both yourself.
Most stores have a 14 day money back guarantee so there is nothing stopping you from ordering both and sending the worse one back.
>>51783955
Bad shill!
>get those extra 5 fps and buy a new psu and an after market cooler for the gpu
>Good goy
>>51774392
>>51774619
Dumb anime poster
>>51784009
You will get over it one day anon...
>>51778574
What about headphones, good ventilation and almost no difference yearly
>>51783900
the primary reason to get the 390 is the 512 memory bus and the 8gb which is a massive fucking deal for open world rpg games like fallout
with 8gb and a bus that huge you can push the rendering distance WAY out and maintain performance
I have 3-4gb cards so i knoe exactly how much eye candy the 3.5gb 970 can put on screen and its not enough even on vanilla fallout 4 and when graphics and texture overhauls come out on nexus a 4gb GPU will be fucking destroyed unless its got the insane bandwidth of HBM and can push new resources into the card as fast as the core can render frames
>>51783974
By that logic if the amd card performance is better then they are paid by AMD.
I buy Intel CPUs and AMD GPUs.
I have found that you can usually get 2 AMD graphics cards for roughly the same price of one Nvidia card, so in that regard you get more bang for your buck. I'm still into 3D gaming on my projector and Nvidia caps their 3D at 720p, but AMD can do 1080p with DLP 3D and running stereoscopic player as middle-ware. You really do need to run two cards when your gaming in 3D. (one card for each eye).
>>51784089
>Buying 2 cards instead of just turning down muh details
Good goy
>>51784043
That also made me worry two mods are going to use tons of ram. Fair enough.
>>51784110
If he's 3D gaming, he HAS to have 2 graphics cards. It isn't optional. Running only one card in 3D and your looking at 20-30 FPS.
I can't believe anyone is still into 3D gaming though. It's dead.
>>51784129
an 8gb 980 would be the better card but they dont exist and if they did they would cost the same as a 980ti
AMD winds because you get huge VRAM and huge memory bus and you get it on the cheap while the jews at nvidia cheat you with a weak faggot 256 bus and 3.5gb memory and then act like they did you a favor
>>51777617
Thought about getting a 970 is it really that bad?
I need a small card because of my huge CPU-fan are there any alternatives?
>>51785092
>I need a small card because of my huge CPU-fan
That doesn't make any sense.
>>51784008
I'm running a 7870 and planning on upgrading to a 960 4GB
>>51772107
Literally the only thing the 960 has going for it is the power usage.
It's beaten by a 380 for the same price.
OK i made a huge mistake asking about mobo advice in the circle jer.... i mean desktop thread. Maybe this is a better place?
when the fuck does nvidia plan to lower the price on the 970? they are really milking le meme card
i want to build me a new pc and want nvidia but dam they are massive kikes
>>51775016
>set for a few years
You do realize everyone is moving to 14/16mm finefet in like 6 months, right? Anything you buy today will be trash then
>>51785679
If you're from the US try jet.com, first order has 20% off. If you get EVGA I think you still get a normal warranty, idk about the rest. Can easily pick up a 960 for $150-160 though.
>960
Or how about the asus 960 that spikes power through your motherboard? There is a reason why current AMD cards basically ignore pcie for power draw.
>>51772107
It was never worth it.
>>51772107
wait for 960ti in like a month
I personally wouldn't touch any Nvidia product. They were pretty much designed to appeal to NEETs.
>>51785807
>no 390
I know this thread isn't about it, but I think 390 is the best card right now
>$300 new
>trades blows with the 980
>great at 1440p and has vram for loadsa mods
Will a 390 work on a half decent 500W psu? Or would I be better off getting a 650 or 700W psu instead?
>>51786675
The 390 fights the 970, not 980. The 390x however does.
I can't believe how I have to pay USD 431 for a 970 here in Europe.
You north americans have it good.
>>51786745
More like you europeans have it good because you have even more reasons to get the R9 390 instead.
>>51786745
That's what you pay for when you want 3.5GB VRAM.
>>51786691
You're borderline yes/no but I would never attempt that. 600W would be great
>>51786783
I don't want AMD
>>51786745
Kek, its $800 here in the third world.
>>51786799
Then don't whinge, you deserve to spend more than you should in that case.
>>51786808
Why do you get so anal?
r9 390 costs the same
All I'm saying is that the prices in 'murica are far better.
>>51786820
Because you'd need to have a severe brain hemorrhage to think a 970 is a better buy over a 390, especially at the same price point.
However, you're fine. We pay up to $550 for 390/970's.
If you buy a 960 for anywhere near $270 I'll kill you.
Here, this is a $193 4gb 380 from sapphire, one of the best models of the card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202166
>>51786885
most likely is a canadian, 960s here are just shy of 300$
>>51774781
Enjoy your low frame rates and medium details! I just bought a 290x for 240. The vapor x model. But hey at least you didn't get kuked right , can you imagine some one else having that gpu in their pc for a year. Playing games on it. Ugh It just doesn't bear thinking about
>>51772107
>not waiting for pascal
>>51786789
So if my 500W psu isn't good enough for a 390 then technically I should just get a 980?
>>51787128
500W is more than enough.
I bought a 960 a few months ago to replace an ancient 460 i won in a raffel. It's a great card and I've been to play just about everything at high detail. With that being said, my intention for this card is really to act as a hold over until a few months into the Pascal release, to see what sort of problems they have before switching over.
>>51787181
Currently I'm running i7-3770, 32GB Ram, 5x1TB drives, 3x120mm fans and a GTX 660
GTX 660 is TDP 140W
GTX 980 is TDP 165W
390 is TDP 275W
My system is stable as right now I'm guessing a 980 would be better performing and less power usage meaning I don't have to buy another PSU.
>>51787256
Consider this: last time Nvidia jumped on new memory and a new node the 480 happened.
>>51787260
>GTX 980 is TDP 165W
Only in Nvidia's wet dreams.
>>51787277
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-980/specifications
165W stock
500W Min requirement
>>51787327
So 1) you have to buy a stock clocked 980 2) it can't have a higher power target 3) Nvidia lies.
>>51787260
So
>275W for 390
>77W for i7-3770
>5x 10W for drives
>80 W for rest
That would be 482W total so 500W would run it.
It will damage the PSU on the long run since it's near the limit but if it breaks you can just buy a new and more powerful PSU.
>>51787416
>It will damage the PSU on the long run since it's near the limit but if it breaks you can just buy a new and more powerful PSU.
DO NOT DO THIS. PSU's can take other components with them when they die.
>>51787416
That's what I'm saying
If I got a 980 instead you theortically get 100W less TDP meaning I could keep the 500W psu I have.
With that I'm look at around 430W at full load.
>>51774778
U wot? Got mine for $180.
EVGA GTX 960 4gb SSC here. I FUCKING love it. Really. Obviously i would loved to have a 970 but here in my shitty country (argentina) it cost 1100 dollars....my card cost 750 dollars...i really want to cry, you all have it Easy...
Best card for the money is a bios flashed 290x.
>>51772339
>uses shitty cards in crossfire
lyl
>>51772107
Well it was better and cheaper than the 280.
960 4GB or a 380X? Both are 250-260 bux
>>51787752
You mean 1100 panchitodollars or 1100 US dollars? Cause if it's the latter it's fucking ridiculous
>>51787068
>durr you shouldn't buy something today because a better thing will be available several months from now
You know, maybe people need something now and not in late 2016
>>51791020
380x > 380 > 960 4GB > 280x > 960 2GB > 280
They are all almost the same so it wont really matter a lot
>>51785475
doesn't seem like a worthwhile upgrade to me.
>>51778565
Blender is adding support for OpenGL in 2.7 I believe.
Its no problem.
>>51773988
>960 is significantly faster than the 950
no its not
if your playing below 1080p still like on a 720p hdtv yes.
>>51787068
>waiting for those 15-20 FPS gains for double the cost
>>51791703
I dont know about pc, but laptop gtx 960m and gtx 950m is a big difference
>>51791962
>thinking differences in mobile GPUs translate over to desktop GPUs
They are not even based on the same chips, you fucking retard. When you compare a x60 desktop GPU to a x60m laptop GPU, for example, the desktop one is based on a much larger chip.
>>51792009
To add to what this guy is saying: The GTX 950 and GTX 960 are both actually based on the same chip, the 950 has lower clocks and less shaders. The 960 actually sits between a 970M and 980M in performance it seems.
Don't play rainbow six (an Nvidia promoted game) on it lol.
>>51791084
1100 US Dollars...seriously. This fucking country is a SHIT. GTX 980 6GB cost 2000 dollars.....and im not kidding....1 dollar = 10 pesos. GTX 980 cost 20mil argentinian pesos.
>>51791084
Maybe you dont believe me. Here you have the prices in one of the less expensives places of argentina
>>51792568
>>51792710
>a single graphics card costs more than what I'd pay for a whole computer with a better card
Top kek, I'm sorry mate.
