/hpg/ - Headphone General. Planar Edition
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https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
>Previous thread:
>>51695913
>>51710930
Thank you for not using an anime image and contributing to the filth that /g/ has become
>>51710930
How does /g/ feel about Sennheiser 280 HD pros?
>>51710930
who /$30phillips/ here
>>51711057
Brofist.
>>51710972
Sounds good but their clamp force and cheap pads kill any comfortablilty they might have had
>>51711185
If you have the shp9500 how's the bass on them? I kind of want to get a pair.. or just save up a little bit more to get the X2's.
Why does amazon think this is ok? Hope these are worth it. got it from the recommendation a few threads ago.
>>51710972
garbage
>>51711242
beyerdynamic knockoffs stop being a fucking poorfag and buy the real thing, same with superlux and akg
Does anyone have any experience with bone resonance headphones? I've always hated things in/on my ears, but traveling a lot I don't want everyone else to hear whatever I'm listening to. The technology seems like it'd be an amazing thing for me but reviews are all over the place about audio quality/noise pollution.
is there a way to have both the solid state and tube experience from one amp; I am only aware of Schiit's solution with their 'solid state tubes' is it any good and are there alternatives?
>>51711484
buy this http://www.amazon.com/Bravo-Audio-V2-Multi-Hybrid-Headphone/dp/B00ADR2DTG
Do this
http://www.tubemaze.info/bravo-v2-mod-parts-information/
Enjoy $1000 dollar amp quality
>>51710972
clamp monster that doesn't even sound that good.
Who owns cd900sts here?
>>51711223
if you want bass get the x2. the 9500 sounds nothing like it. It's basically a bright 598, bass light. and it's not worth it anymore unless you get a deep discount.
Are earbuds allowed? I need some advice
>Budget - $40 cheaper would be nice
>Location - Canada
>Source - android phone
>Preferred type of headphone - ear buds
>Preferred tonal balance - V shaped
>Preferred music - Rock (Rage against the machine) and Indie (Modest Mouse)
>Past headphones - whatever the cheapest ones on the earbud guide was but they broke
Most importantly I want a pair which the wire won't break so quickly
>>51712781
that one chink earbud that comes with the chink phones
I got the LCD-2s for $625, they sound great but they are so fucking dark man. Recommendations for similar quality but more neutral shits? A bit bright is ok too but nothing that rapes my ears please.
Best headphones under 150g and under $150?
I can't stand heavy stuff on my head.
>>51712908
He-400i
>>51712908
HE-500
Ether
HE-560
HE-6
HD-800
(in order from being closest to the LCD-2 sound to the farthest/brightest)
HE-500 is pretty similar but a little more opened up and neutral, Ether is pretty damn neutral, HE-6 is my favorite among these but juuuust reaches the point of being too bright, HD-800 will probably ear fuck you without EQ.
Looking for headphones for CSGO, need surround sound.
>budget $100-$200
>location US of A
>source - PC
>preferred type - over ear
>tonal balance and music - don't really care desu, as long as its good sound quality
>previous headphones - sennhieser p350 se (?) And
>Logitech g930
>g930 doesn't work anymore and sennheiser doesn't
>have surround
Halp
>>51712969
Surround sound is such a gimmick. Try ATH AD-700.
>>51712978
Why is it a gimmick? Isn't it useful in fps games?
>>51713012
No lmao
>>51713012
>he wants 6 small shitty speakers right next to each other
>right next to his ears
>he thinks this is a good
>he thinks it'll sound good
>he thinks he'll be able to tell the location of enemy players as if he had an actual 7.1 speaker setup
Literally the worst meme, just get good headphones and be done with it. MDR7506 if you want neutral sound and to notice every little thing in what you hear, HD598 if you want bigger soundstage.
>>51713012
Most headphones should be able to produce 3d sound.
>>51713053
How does that work when there's only two physical sound sources?
>>51713068
How can 3D be real if we only have 2 eyes?
Anime confirmed for real
>>51713045
Leave it to a gen Z university fuccboi who thinks calling things memes are hilarious to also think MDRs have good detail retrieval lol
>>51713104
great suggestion
/hfg/ FAQ
;===============
;HEADPHONES
;===============
HD558s are tinny and veiled with no bass and poor build quality
M50s are meme phones with no soundstage and clamp like a bitch which causes them to hurt after 2 hours of use not to mention has nigger bass
DT660/770/880/990/10100 all have nigger bass with ear rape treble no mids
ETYs have no bass and literally rape your ears
MA900s are muddy and flimsy
MDR-V6/7506s are all bright pieces of shit
DT250s are ripoffs of the V6/7506 with a detachable cable and at twice the price not to mention it is compleatly made form plastic
HD800s are bright pieces of shit
HD600s look like my kitchen counter
AKGs are for weebo man children
K701s has skull bumps
Q701s aka K701 with shit colors
K812s and K712 has nigger bass and is as good as Beats
BAKA 1000s are rippoffs of the V6/7506 and even says so on the box
Fidelio X1s are ... wait what the fuck are X1s; who even owns this? Fuck it I'll just say it has nigger bass.
AD700/900s are >no bass, trebly shit, weird-wing-things, muh competitive gaymen, something like that.
AKG K7XX is a shity toy made in china from left over parts and sound like an 80 year old with parkinson's on cocaine
;===============
;AMPS AND DACS
;===============
Schiits are shit hiss monsters
Any DAC over $150 is nothing but snake oil
Fiios are cheap chink shit
Little Dots are colored shit that runs hot enough to cook eggs and require more maintenance and cost more than the superior solid state ampsVer 2.6
>>51713068
Go get any pair of basic headphones right now (if you have any) and listen to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dxIK3-vqpc
>>51713126
mfw this hasn't changed in over a year because it doesn't need to
why is everyone paying hundreds of dollars for mass produced shitty copper string and a thin sheet of plastic
>>51713126
still pretty accurate
>>51712421
Are they a good deal at 60$
So I bought a pair of koss ksc75s because I wanted a pair of cheap headphones for my walk to work, and also they were the perfect price to get free shipping on some other stuff I was ordering. They sound astonishingly good. They sound better than some headphones I've heard that cost ten times as much. A+ would buy again.
>>51713068
or this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhzgQ2j0miI
>>51713183
Why didn't you get the portapros?
>>51713196
oh shit when its really close it makes my balls tingle
>>51713218
Because the ksc75 was $15
That's the entire reason. I could tell you I'd heard they had a "flatter" response, or that they fit easily in a pocket of my laptop bag, but at the end of the day they were half the price of the portapros and I wasn't expecting to like them
>>51713126
Should I assume this applies to the 598s as well or are those actually good?
>>51713181
yes, but not at any more than that.
>>51713251
How much are the portapros? I think I got them for like $20 its not that much more for the metal band makes it a lot better
>>51713233
Thats "asmr" nigga. Look it up and enjoy.
>>51713266
The 598s are just the 558s with a different headband and driver housing. I didn't hear much of a difference at best buy
>>51713233
Search "asmr twilight forest" on youtube.
guise I won this
http://www.head-fi.org/t/786228/sonic-electronix-sweepstakes-sponsored-by-final-audio-design
how are they
>>51713283
not sure if I like it or not I just feel itchy
>>51713126
>it's all true
Hey guys I fucked up the cable to my akg k612 pro. How do I go about replacing it ?
Got a new chart in the works rn.
Rollin backwoods back to back don't get a misunderstood
so there was 2 threads. qq
>>51713636
Well the other thread wasn't linked in the thread that died. Guess we get 2 now.
>>51713126
so then good headphones are all the really expensive non dynamic transducer shit? hifiman, audeze, stax arent mentioned. also x2s arent mentioned probably because theyre newish, but you could just call them niggerbass like the x1 except even moreso
Thread #2 I guess
>>51710930
>>51715397
Same question:
HD 598 are worth it with a 150€ budget?
What are good similar option arround this budget?
>>51715408
just get the 558
>>51715440
Why?
They are only 16€ cheaper
m50x vs m30x + sr80e?
>>51715408
Philips SHP9500 are cheaper and they are better.
Does someone here have Urbanears?
Amazon.it prices
Philips SHP9500: 141 €
Sennheiser HD598: 142 €
The hype train has never been this fast!
>>51715774
I don't get it.
>>51715767
My friend had this. They sound like absolute shit. At least they are /fa/.
Audio noob here, I want to buy literally the best headphones ever made, which ones should I buy?
>>51716011
pre-order sennheiser orpheus
>Budget
£100-£150
>Location
UK
>Source
FiiO E10K
>Preferred type of headphone
Over Ear
>Open or closed
either although I am leaning towards closed
>Comfort level
Very
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral or V shaped
>Preferred music
Muh chinese cartoon ost's and electronic/dance
>Past headphones
ATH m50's and phillips shp9500
Im looking to replace the m50's hence why im tempted towards closed, but I dont really mind either way.
>>51715408
I just ordered these yesterday but I may return them for pic related.
>>51716011
>Best Headphones
Open Back:Stax SRS-5170(amp included)
Audeze LCD-3(needs amp)
Sennheiser HD800(needs amp)
Closed Back:Audio Technica W1000x(needs amp)
Audeze LCDXC(needs amp)
>>51716018
>sennheiser orpheus
What the hell those cost £35,000.
>>51717213
Bad closed suggestions and you should feel bad for giving them.
Open ones are still lacking.
>>51717363
Thats some nice refutation there kiddo
>>51717417
>>51717213
Headphones don't need amp besides Stax.
Why pick 507 over 009 besides price?
Audeze has Audeze comfort, the lack of it rather. LCD-3 has substandard QC/build, XC has better sensitivity, but is bulky, with a response not better than the cheaper closed alternatives. Might as well get the X or the 2 for open Audeze, or even the laughably priced LCD-4.
W1000x is as peculiar sounding as any AT woodie.
HD800 might be okay (V-shaped), but HD 800 Schwarz is due for imminent release.
>>51717750
Have you actually listened to any of those headphones?
>>51717213
>Audio Technica W1000x(needs amp)
It doesnt and it's a garbage-tier headphone.
>>51717213
>Stax SRS-5170(amp included)
bright nobass
>LCD-3
too dark and lcd4 is coming out
>hd800
ear rape and hd800s is coming out
>w1000x
uneven fr like all large ATH
>LCDXC
fucked up upper mids and highs.
>>51717763
All besides the 800S, which isn't for sale. But whether or not I have doesn't matter, because you don't really care.
>>51717991
LCD-4 has been for sale for a couple months.
I-I bought HD598, a-am I /hpg/ now or is this just the beginning??
>>51716757
X2 HANDS DOWN. I HAD THE FIIO E10K AND THE M50X AND THA X2 WAS SUCH A GOOD UPGRADE
>>51718216
You own headphones that are better than 99.9% of whats out there.
>dat neutral
>dat comfort
>>51718319
>nobass headphones
>>51718216
The price you paid yeah, the headphones u got.. i dont think so mate
I were using the HD600 before a friend of mine bought the X2.. and when i listened to them, holy fucking jesus it was at that time i realized how good music were supposed to be listened to..
>>51718505
>Shitposting this hard.
They're two different sound signatures faggot.
>>51718545
>when getting mad at true facts
The HD600 is basically nobass headphone which are shit... agreed with the guy who said that
>>51718545
>when getting mad at true facts
How can i connect the ARGON 6340 to my Fiio e10k?
>Budget
Around £110
>Location
UK
>Source
Currently planning to get FiiO E10K, up for changing that.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full/Circumaural
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Would like Comfort for long hours of use without headaches.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
Monoprice 8323 because poorfag
Rather uncomfortable.
>Other
Want to be able to replace cable in case of cable breaks.
Currently interested in DT250.
How are the X2s?
I primarily listen to rock and hip-hop, do they sound good with those genres?
Also, an amp wouldn't be necessary for them, correct?
>>51718774
No amp needed. You would probably like them for those genres if you don't mind vocals in rock being slightly recessed.
>>51718774
you would love to listened to hip hop with em!
>>51718841
>>51718888
OK, cool. I ordered a pair of M-100s for $150 a couple of days ago and they should be arriving tomorrow or the next, but I'm expecting not to like them.
If I don't like those, then I'm definitely returning them and getting the X2s. I've been interest in open-back headphones for a while now anyways.
>>51719081
The V moda will make you head crack if u like bass!
>>51719081
depends on much isolation and protability you need + V-moda headphones are built like tanks.
>>51719238
AND BASS
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004FEEY9A?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
558s good for $80? gonna use them for gaming music/movies
>>51719805
do it
>>51719805
not bad at all.
>>51715547
Just get the m40x
>>51717251
That goy who suggested that literally works for sennheiser
>>51719951
I suggested that. He asked for the best headphones ever made, and I gave him the answer.
I work as a server technician at a Fortune 500 company, not Sennheiser.
>>51719805
I really like them for gaming. Music is more hit or miss, but I mean for $80 they're hard to beat.
>>51719970
They aren't even out you stupid fuck you never even fucking listened to them so no you can't say they're the best just cause their marketing team told you that
I'll try asking again since my post was completely ignored last time I tried
Some guy is giving me a sweet deal on some 598SE after convincing him they're worthless now that Amazon sells them for as low as 100$. Poor sod says he paid MSRP for them.
What can I do to ensure I actually get a working pair of headphones? since its a long distance trade I can't try them before and I'm trusting this guy to not be a nigger
>>51720054
ask him to hold them up to the phone
no there isn't anything you can do. if you're going to work someone into giving you a deal, then don't be a fucking pussy about it.
>ask dad for headphones because richfag kid's syndrome
>he gets me some wireless and a beats pill as an extra because he's sad he can't see me enough time because university and his job
>they actually sound decent
so I suppose are your beats shitstorm it's nothing but jealousy and you don't even bother to try the non-monster beats generation.
>>51720486
>I suppose all your*
>>51720486
trying too hard
>>51720523
Sorry I don't speak "broken nigger"
>>51720486
desu senpai they aren't bad per se, they definitely sound better than 80% of the headphones you can buy at Wallmart or all the fucking earbuds that come with headphones, but for that price point you can get literally anything from a brand name like AKG, Snapheaiser, V-MODA or fucking anything really.
Good for niggers on the dole and your mom, shit for anything else.
There's a reason a third of the weight comes from filler metal. Its not even reinforced in the parts that snap the easiest like the cups.
>>51720561
>Posting old generation beats image.
>M-MUH EDGY V MODA WITH TATTOED PLATES!!!
Ayy
>>51720608
> Paying 200$ for 16$ worth of parts is ok
MUTAFUGIN BIX NOODS
>>51720685
lets see some others for comparison
>>51720685
I saludate you too sir!
>unzips Chinese katana from amazon*
>slashes beats with katana*
>>51720685
>what is labour
>>51720685
Sure it is if the product is good. Heck of a lot more goes into a product than the cost of the individual parts alone.
>>51720685
So I can get a free pair of beats if I go to some abandoned mine for that list of materials and then I duck tape everything?
>>51720685
What if i told you that literally every CPU, every GPU cost is ~80-90% the cost of research, not the actual material?
>>51720793
yeah like marketing
>>51720711
>>51720743
>>51720746
>>51720793
>>51720878
>>51720901
> There are nigger on /hpg/ RIGHT NOW that own a pair of beats
> And defend the brand
day of the rope can't come soon enough
>>51720793
Yeah like marketing
>>51721210
Why is Obama stealing a tv made in the 90s?
>>51721210
i don't have them. i just want to see some more of those component price lists for comparison. it's interesting.
>>51713084
>med for real
>>>
> Anonymous 12/
because eyes capture 2d images
sound is 1d
so i bought some headphones
and the end is this big fucking golden jack thing
and the hole on my computer is like, 10 times smaller
how the fuck do i plug this in now
>>51721591
Plug it in your butthole
>>51721591
Just jam it in it will fit.
>>51721591
http://www.amazon.com/UCEC-Plated-Quality-Audio-Adapter/dp/B00XOE9CVW/ref=sr_1_3?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1449433073&sr=1-3&keywords=6.3mm+to+3.5
>>51721591
Sounds like a quarter inch plug, you need to buy a 1/4 to 3.5mm adapter
>>51721639
only if you watch, anon
>>51721591
Some 1/4 adapters can be removed by either pulling them out or unscrewing them revealing the 3,5mm plug
I seriously you're not stupid enough to not try any of these before posting.
>>51720486
Dude if u listen to even the m50 and compare them to the beats u got u will realize how shitty beats are
>>51721814
>No name headphones
It's like you wanna be the poorfag in your classroom
>>51721808
Try what?
Im just going to buy something like
>>51721669
Isn't that the best idea?
>>51721814
M40s are better
>>51721862
Check to see if you can remove it first. Consumer grade headphones almost always come with a 1/4 adapter screwed to the regular 3,5mm
>>51721888
Can't remove anything my man
>>51721848
Dude I'm 31 years old and I literally clear over 600k after taxes, and beats are only for wanna be rich people that think a Little $300 pair of headphones is a status symbol bc dumbass celebs wear them in commercials bc they are getting paid to wear them, some of u idiot nerds on here are so ridiculously ignorant
>>51721913
Can you plug it in your butt though?
>>51721930
Nice projection Tyrone
Some here might need a huge change with horror explosive power.
Look no further!
>>51715408
They are okay as such (got them), but not particularly great value overall. You could get a bunch of Philips or even kinda Takstars or such and arrive with more or less the same...
>>51721880
I don't even have m50s, I was just using them as an example of a cheap someone well known headphone that can make beats sound like trash, and if that idiot winger that got them really wanted something that looked good and had bass and portability he should have traded his shitty beats in for vmoda m100
I just bought these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826106328&cm_re=headphones-_-26-106-328-_-Product
based solely on good name brand and customer reviews
>>51721992
It's a good headphone for the price.
>>51718764
dt 770 m8
desu I switched my good headphones outside she'll with the shell of the beats by dre so I don't look like some social outcast poor nerd
So now I have social status and good headphones
>>51721931
already answered that
Hola Mi Busco Unos Audifonos Tipo Beats Pero Que No Sean Beats! Algun Clon De Beats?
Gracias!:)
>>51721953
You're probably some fatass teenager whose never even kissed a girl, I go on this stupid forum bc I like headphones and it used to be good advice and interesting opinions and information, now it's just anime loving worthless nerds, I'm done from now on I'm gonna stick to headfi and reddit when I bored at the damn mall waiting for my slow ass fiance to shop
>>51722082
Don't shoot me jamal
>>51722101
Not even black obviously, I make over 600k a year from commercial real estate that I inherited from my rich white father, if u idiots don't believe me I'll post a picture of me in my BMW 7 series with my fiance and myself, and she used to be an Abercrombie model btw, I also have nudes
>>51722178
I don't believe you.
>>51710930
>Just got these
>The short cable is about a foot too short to use comfortably with my computer
>The long cable is about 6 feet too long
Dammit.
>>51722208
Hahahahha okay I'm gonna post u a pic of my checking account balance and a picture of my car and with me in it and timestamp it u loser
>>51722252
>50x
You fucked up big time son
Shoulda got the 40x, cheaper and better
>>51722278
No you won't, because you're clearly lying.
Don't forget the nudes. Oh yeah, they don't exist.
>>51722284
They were only $115 a few days ago on Amazon, and I wanted the 180 degree swiveling feature. I wouldn't have bought them otherwise. The M50x also has a 45mm driver and 38 ohm impedance over the m40x's 40mm driver and 35 ohm impedance.
>>51722326
The funny thing is that I actually am telling you the absolute truth
>>51722421
I buy it.
>>51722082
>headfi and reddit
This is b8
>>51722414
The m40x is GOAT, m50x is Nigger bass
>>51722483
>>51722507
>>51722520
Pictures with my bank statement, cars, house, fiance and myself with timestamps coming up soon nerds
>>51722483
>>51722507
>>51722520
And if u want nudes of my fiance I'll post those too on a different forum, and with timestamps of course
>>51722692
go for it liar
I bought a pair of cheap 30$ sony headphones, they sound great but the audio channels are reversed. Do you guys have any idea on how to fix it?
>>51722722
Coming up nerd
>>51722773
>>51722692
>>51722655
Please do, i'm at the edge of my seat here hoping a richfag really does care this much
about making a point on an anonymous image board.
>>51722178
>BMW
>7 series
you wasted that money, BMW a shit
>>51722857
Dude at this point I actually am bc I'm so sick of the nerds on here doin nothing but trashing everyone's opinions on any headphone no matter what it is and I just don't understand the fuckin anime thing it's so disgusting and pedo style, I wish the guy that installed my home theatre room had never told me about this site, he said that /g/ was good for getting legit opinions on tech and when I got into headphones I got on this ShitShow, no I'm gonna post these pics just for the fuck of it and never come back
>>51712781
>>51712812
I think he's talking about the xiaomi piston 2's
>>51722929
Mines the Alpina b7, but I am getting sick of it, it's too impractical for an everyday car, and my other car is a wrangler that I've had since high school that I have dumped so.much money into that I'll never get rid of it but I can't drive it as an everyday car, I'm thinking about getting either a fisker evo or a tesla
anyone got a guide like pic related but for in-ear headphones?
preferably around $100
>>51723087
See what does even that mean, is that a picture of you in your karate anime outfit or somethin
>>51723091
Don't have fancy guide pictures. Suggestion is just to get Xiaomi or KZ or something like that, and save your $100... unless you want 7-10 different models, in which case you might be about there in terms of price.
If you must, you can find hundreds of posts about them on head-fi or such.
>>51723087
>>51722929
>>51722857
>>51722722
Alright I'm on my way home from the mall, when I get home I'm gonna load all the timestampes pics on /b/ bc of the nudes u all wanted and I will name it "for all the nerds on /hpg/ that were shit talking as usual"
where did the lcd-4 go wrong?
>>51723325
k just make sure to link to thread here
>>51722960
Welcome to 4chan, now fuck off.
>>51723325
>>51723422
you really think someone would do that? go on the internet and tell lies?
>>51722960
Just kill your self senpai
>>51723467
Of course anime, that is so pathetic and sad, I honestly feel sorry for you
>>51718216
you've achieved 90% of what the highest-tier headphones are capable of. Improvements from here on out are going to be more subtle. if you're really "into" headphones, it's still worth buying more and spending more, but approach everything as a side-grade and stop thinking about finding the "best". there is no best, only what is close to your preferences, and even then you'll probably end up owning and using multiple headphones. for people who just want to get good headphones and call it a day going beyond $200 is pointless.
O.O
http://www.audeze.com/verify/consumer-alert
>>51723422
No problem >>51723467
Of course it's an anime pic, I honestly feel sorry for you
>>51723566
Does this mean Im gonna get a steal on those headphones
>>51723566
Sounds like some bargains are to be had.
>Budget
£75
>Location
Britain
>Source
PC with no amp, android phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear, open back
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral, but not a big deal
>Preferred music
electronic and classical
>Past headphones
appleshit
comfort is a very big requirement for me, as I want to use it for a lot of gaming too. I could stretch to £100 if necessary.
Would a standard laptop soundcard / OnePlusOne be able to power a AKG K702 properly? I can buy a DAC/AMP in the future.
>>51723534
Another nerd reply, wtf is a senpai, god damn I really do feel sorry for u people, I am done responding now though until I post my link with the pics so that u nerds can see how a actual successful young man lives and the perks that come along with being a "richfag" as u all say, I'm gonna include a pic of my Theatre/media room too some u all can nut in your pants, it makes your little "battlestations" look like children's toys, peace out nerds have fun being pedos, anime freaks, my little pony freaks, and all around pathetic virgins with no social skills losers, I'm rooting for u all to turn your lives around though, start exercising and everything will start getting better, good night and good luck
>>51723542
Where do you think you are?
>>51723704
>>51723704
>>51723704
>>51723704
to addend to this, I'd be willing to consider closed back too.
Ok, seriously; are all "good" headphones like m40x, m50x just studio headphones? Should I look for something different if I just want to listen to music? I thought I would buy m40x but now I'm really confused. Do any comfy headphones with good sound quality under $100 even exist? sori for bad englando
>>51723736
>hes so new that he doesnt know F A M is filtered
W E W L A D
E
W
L
A
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are fidelio x2 good for listening to jazz, experimental rock and funk? or is there a better option in their price range? i wont use dac
What are some good circumaural headphones with relatively small earcups and thin pads? My experience with plush pads, suspension headbands, roomy cups, low clamping pressure, etc. is that I can't get a secure fit or consistent seal for shit.
>>51723755
>m50x
>good
>>51723805
No, it has boomy bass and makes everything else sound muddled.
>>51723791
So being autistic is your excuse for watching that pedo anime nonsense
you people with your no info recommendations are cancer. just fill out the form.
>>51723849
>milky holmes
>nonsense
well hes right but not in the way hes thinking
>>51723849
Is there any problem here?
>>51720486
Ive heard the recent Beats revision were actually a lot better than the originals, they put work on them.
But I tried a pair of Sony's for near the same price range and they sounded quite a bit better, I couldn't believe it lol
>>51723901
wait, the sonys were better? which pair?
>>51722414
Enjoy your nigger bass
>>51723962
well i wasnt mad at you senpai
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00ENMK1DW
>>51723911
The mdr-v6 is better than any swagfag nigger bass gay beats
>>51724040
well i know that
i was just curious about what pair he was testing that were the same price, cause i dont think we recommend sonys at that price point
>>51723911
Honestly I don't remember, I was at fry's in summer, I know they were the Studio beats and I forget if the Sony's were $20 more or cheaper.
>>51724040
The cabling sucks unless you do the mod, also they don't look as cool when you're working out I think.
>>51724087
Most likely, it was probably overpriced.
>>51724034
thanks buddy
I hope this is the right thread to ask for DAC advice. I'm looking to get a cheap and portable DAC but I'm too fucking cheap to spend 80$ on one. Pic is the Fiio K1 which is available for 40$. Should I get it or is this thing shit?
>>51723848
alright. any alternatives for 250 yuros? was thinking about hd600 or akg k612, but I heard you need amp/dac for them. dont care if they're open or closed
>>51710930
where do i buy the clear piece for k7xx?
>>51724226
I dunno, depends on what you're driving them on. I just ordered something around 20 bucks from Douk audio just for the heck of it(I was drunk and wanted just to get a cheap soundcard with integrated amp and a potentiometer for volume control).
>Budget
Around $100 or less.
>Location
USA
>Source
My PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized/circumaural. I used to have Logitech G430s (pic related) and the more ear-shaped pads were comfy. I'm currently using SteelSeries Siberia as a backup and the circular ear pads are way too small and uncomfortable.
I do not require a headset marketed to "gamers" or with a mic attached.
>Open or closed
I'd like something that my Blue Yeti mic won't pick up easily, but I also like to be able to hear things around me a bit.
>Comfort level
Comfy as fuk pls
>Preferred music
Chiptune/keygen, indie folk/rock like Fleet Foxes or Modest Mouse, prog rock, some hardcore/punk/metal stuff. In a nutshell, a lot of guitar and vocals, as well as some instrumental things. I will also be using the headset to play some vidya.
>Past headphones
Logitech G430 (Loved these)
Turtle Beach X12s (Weird constant hiss/echo when connected to power. Picked up otherwise undetectable coil whine from inside the PC.)
SteelSeries Siberia USB (Fucking awful)
Thanks anons!
>>51724276
HD600, it does not need an amp.
K612 is good but it does need an amp. Don't let the impedance of the headphone fool you. Sensitivity is what really matters.
>>51724523
The voltage sensitivity difference between K612 and HD 600 is not THAT big but my experience with the full sized Sennheisers is similar. They really don't need an amp if you are going to plug them into your average motherboard directly.
>>51724523
K702>K612
>>51721955
It's amazing to effort these companies put into the visual presentation of their products but they can't track down a white guy to check up on their terrible machine-translated descriptions.
>>51724671
Absolutely no.
>>51723091
no. one should be made but IEMs is one of the hardest infographs to make because of lack of reliable measurements and shit coming out all the damn time. there are multiple "giant killer" IEMs coming out of asia every week at this point. also there is the question of if you include things like KZ which has a large amounts of impressions/hype but no measurements?
so atm it's better to just use the request form.
>>51724799
There is an IEM guide in the wiki.
>>51724735
its very close, but id say the 702s are better
you probably just dont like bass, but the bass is hardly any more than the 612s to call it nigger bas
>>51724831
oh and ill follow this up with saying that the price difference is not worth it, so i will agree completely if you meant "for the price"
>>51724735
612 is a 702 for poorfags
>no removable cable
ebin
>>51724901
It's the best AKG in production sound wise.
>>51724418
558, do the foam mod. Though the upper-mids response is not that great for electric guitars. raise the upper mids and lower bass a bit with eq. the other good alternative is the xpt-100, but it doesn't have as good soundstage and sense of space as the sennheiser.
>>51724918
the 702 is though
the 612 is a neutered 702 with no removable cable
>>51724942
K702 is more colored.
>>51724959
>K702 is colored
when will this meme stop?
>>51724959
thats arguable. it has more bass but the upper mids and treble are more neutral.
>>51724716
Actually, I think it's often the resellers that translate Chinese marketing materials very poorly on their own. No guarantees this is always the case, though.
Well, to give a concrete example, Xiaomi's own website is definitely okay to good (Pistons 3 here: http://www.mi.com/en/headphones3/ ) - unlike many of the reseller translations.
>>51724975
All headphones are colored. It's not a meme. K702 being more colored than the K612 is also not a meme.
>>51723409
>the number is how many thousands we should charge for our shit build quality XD
>>51724901
>>51724831
the k612 and k7xx are both better than the old audiophile darlings k701/702. I don't know why people held them in such high regard for so long, they must have not had anything better. they're both nobass and unnatural sounding in the upper mids and highs. of the big three only the hd600 holds up really.
>>51725008
can you imagine the day we actually have 0db across the entire hearing spectrum? wonder how boring that would sound like
>>51725038
It sounds fucking phenomenal as you hear everything equally with no masking of frequencies caused by coloration. The day is here btw. It's called DSP.
>>51725031
the k612 is a nigger bass poorfag k702 and the k7xx is a reasonably priced k712
>>51724817
outdated and missing a bunch of stuff, like most of the guides. the other is jokers database but that's just a collection of his impressions which obviously should not be used as a purchase guide.
>>51725038
that will never happen. even if you get close with software and specific hardware configurations there will always be audible differences. we don't even have an "objective" standard for neutral and probably never will.
>>51725110
That's just all kinds of wrong.
>>51725157
how so?
>>51725110
>bass not ever above neutral
>niggerbass
well I guess most things sound like niggerbass coming from the k702, which was always a flawed audiophile scam. complaining about "poorfags" is a typical audiophile response when they realize their overpriced headphones have been bested by something cheaper.
>>51725169
K612 has no niggerbass, if anything it's rolled off in the bass just like K702. K702 is more colored in the upper mids and highs compared to K612. K7xx is a K702 with a bit better upper mids and generally more balanced FR. K712 is the most colored of the lot and the one that could be considered as niggerbass. It's a warm sounding headphone with a rollercoaster FR from mids to highs.
>>51725210
okay see, ive never heard the headphones you guys are talking about, so im not trying to weigh in on the position, but youre using terms too vaguely just to try to seem something shittier than it is. you cant just scream nigger bass because it has more bass
this image is not niggerbass in the slightest
>>51725121
>outdated and missing a bunch of stuff
Such as?
>>51725121
>objective" standard for neutral
Diffuse field?
>>51712828
I watching the show now, but can't find this perfect ass picture anywhere, next time post it please. I'd love a wallscroll with that.
>>51724523
> HD600
> doesn't need an amp
My God, I know that Sennheiser pays you a lot for saying this bullshit, but don't you have a moral dignity?
>>51724276
Don't listen to Senshills and AKG anime deviants. Philips Fidelio X2 is an excellent headphone for any music genre, especially the ones you like. Also it's really one of the best sub-300$ all-around headphones which doens't require an amp at all, unlike HD600 and AKG 612, both of which are famous for being power hungry.
Where are my Sennhomies?
HD202 Here
>>51725397
>My God, I know that Sennheiser pays you a lot for saying this bullshit, but don't you have a moral dignity?
>shill meme
Explain why does it need an amp will you?
Anyone here has heard the newest Sennheiser HD451, 461 & 471?
Pretty curious how they sound.
I got a question for the speakerfags, how can i commect the argon 6430 to my fiio e10k?
>>51725652
How am I a shill?, I was using some soul by ludacris SL150 (did not buy them, it was a gift) and they snapped on my fat head.I use what is cheap and works, and the the heiser 202s were 20 bucks.
>>51725652
>asking
>shills
anon pls
>>51723761
senpai?
>>51725481
Because its voltage sensitivity is fucking low. It has a 102 dB/V sensitivity, which basically means that it requires an amp as much as the AKG 612 which has a similar voltage sensitivity, unless your default setup is overstellar and super-amped.
>>51725766
why?
>>51725791
cuz fuck you thats why
>>51725791
because 2 threads is not already enough.
damn, my soundblaster z has 22.11ohm output impedance according to goldenears. that makes me sad... but exactly how does it work? does that affect higher or lower impedance headphones more, or does that not correlate at all?
>>51725948
That's a pretty standard spec for line outputs from computer gear. Not exactly bad but not great. It affects low impedance headphones. The idea is that you should have your input impedance(headphones) eight times as high as the source impedance to avoid poor damping and coloration caused by the output impedance.
>>51725791
to let this one die
NEW THREAD
>>51725716
>>51725716
>>51725716
>>51726001
thank you, this is exactly the info i was looking for. one question, when you say "eight times," do you mean you should literally try for it to be exactly eight times the amount, or at LEAST 8 times? because from how i understand it, the latter would make more sense
>>51726063
Eight times or more. Pic related is a nominal 300 Ohm headphone with a large impedance spike around 100Hz driven from difference source impedance. Deviation from neutral response is there but it's nowhere near as big as that on the UE Super.fi.
>>51726062
It's not even bump limit, retard.
>>51713126
Just shorten it to nobass and nigger bass.
>>51726125
right. thanks a lot man, it seems this is quite important. right now my x2s with an impedance of only 30 ohms are being colored a decent amount then, by an output impedance of 22.11. i imagine my integrated output impedance would be even higher?
>>51726159
we only need one thread so it isn't spamming the catalog so it doesn't matter
>>51713181
Yeah that's a good deal. They used to be around $55 or maybe less but then they started getting pushed by reviewers now they inflated the price to $90-100.
>>51726233
Integrated varies from 2 Ohms to near 100 Ohms. It's never specced by the motherboard manufacturers. And given how smooth the impedance to frequency response of those X2s is, you might not be coloring them much at all. Different headphones react differently to source impedance. Even if you are not getting a frequency response deviation, poor damping can still cause headphones to sound like they are lacking detail. Especially the bass tends to suffer from poor damping making it sound loose.
>>51725323
DF neutral is bright
>>51726326
oh - is that what the "electrical impedance and phase" graph is for on inner fidelity?
>>51726432
>neutral is bright
ok
>>51726063
>>51726451
Look at it this way:
-Voltage in a circuit, such as headphone plugged into computer, is distributed proportionate to the impedance of each part.
-Headphone impedance is generally not flat with frequency, it goes up and down. Exceptions are planar magnetics and single dynamic driver in-ears, flat impedance across hearing.
-If the impedance of the output is too high in proportion to the headphone, voltage is wasted on the electronics before getting to the headphone
-If the headphone has an overwhelming impedance compared to the output, the voltage is basically constant at all frequencies, and the headphone gets equal voltage at all frequencies
If we take a typical electrodynamic headphone, it will have rising impedance in the midbass and highs to a lesser extent. Therefore, if you start adding constant impedance before it, less voltage gets to everything else besides the bass. This would make a headphone sound midbassy,
Phase and impedance - how familiar are you with trigonometry?
>>51726566
well, a lot of the complaints about the x2 is mud, so it sounds like it would help. as an owner of them, i sort of agree, but ive heard a lot worse. but my setup is far less than perfect. id be willing to bet a proper amp/dac would be helpful at least a little to me.
trig? no sir. but again, thank you, i am learning a good amount. i also did not know that planar magnetics would be an acception to this. this kind of goes against how people say that planars are usually quite power hungry. or rather, it probably makes sense if you understand the whole thing fully. what makes them exceptions to this varying impedance?
>>51726702
>planar magnetics would be an acception to this. this kind of goes against how people say that planars are usually quite power hungry
Impedance (Z) is made of part resistance (R) and reactance (j), which in turn can be broken into inductance and capacitance. Inductors are the little coils on a circuit board, and capacitors are made by a bunch of metal plates that are insulated from each other.
Resistors/resistance is constant across frequency, reactive parts are not - they go up and down.
The impedance of a planar dynamic is flat because the physical arrangement minimizes reactive parts, it is resistive and constant across all of hearing.
The planar design is inherently not well optimized to sensitivity, so it needs lots of magnets and/or power to compensate. What the flat impedance means is that the voltage loss is not frequency dependent. You are still wasting voltage at the amp, but it is the same at all frequencies.
The phase refers to how much reactive part there is compared to the resistive part (as in the legs of a right triangle), but it is low enough most of the time (non-electrostatic) that you can cut it out to get a rough estimate.
With 1 Volt, output Z of 1 Ohm, headphone impedance of 9, the headphone gets 0.9 Volts. Change the headphone to 4 Ohms, headphone now gets 0.8 Volts. Hopefully you get the idea.
Any good in ear headphones for $80 - $120
>>51713126
>Schiits are shit hiss monsters
just like probably half of you faggots here I got the 598s on black friday, but I'm still in the market for a dac/amp. been looking at the magni/modi as they seem to be the most recommended for that ~$200 mark.
if apparently they are literally shit then what alternatives would you guys recommend? i know the o2/odac is often recommended as an alternative despite apparently sounding identical, for more dollars.
>>51727843
You realize this is a shitposting compilation right?
Magni 2 noise floor is lower than Magni, and it wasn't a problem for 598 anyway, more so IEMs.
>>51727890
no i didn't because fiio is chink shit
>Budget
$250
>Location
USA
>Source
Computer Speakers
>Preferred type of headphone Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Ok-ish, wouldn't mind having to buy better pads.
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Past headphones
Sennheiser IEM's (Ok for the price)
>>51727417
>acception
wow i did type acception, hahaha. maybe im tired.
thats a lot to take in though senpai. im trying very hard.
but if im understanding, that means planars should be better if youre worried about coloration from a shitty amp affecting dynamic transducers.
which means that you would want those if you cant also get a dac/amp, if your current ones suck. volume will be lower, but it wont color any frequencies.
very interesting.
>>51728019
what do you mean your source is computer speakers? youre going to be plugging the headphones into some port they have?
>>51728107
>thats a lot to take in though senpai. im trying very hard.
I think I went overboard on the explanation again.
>but if im understanding, that means planars should be better if youre worried about coloration from a shitty amp affecting dynamic transducers.
>which means that you would want those if you cant also get a dac/amp, if your current ones suck. volume will be lower, but it wont color any frequencies.
That sums it up.
As a note, not all planar magnetics are low sensitivity, but they have to make use of more clever tricks and trade-offs to get them to be moderately sensitive like a normal dynamic. Heavy Neo magnets were one of them.
If you want to know the difference in dB from the different voltages it goes something like:
20 log (V1/V2) = dB
20 log (0.9/0.8)
1.0 dB
>>51728118
Yeah, they have a regular headphone jack.
Sorry if that was confusing,
>>51728429
>I think I went overboard on the explanation again.
no, i dont think so! you have a lot to explain if someone is going to understand. thats why theres so much literature for this stuff. its also why perfect devices for these applications dont exist, because the subjectivity part of it makes learning the objective parts more difficult, at least if you take a non structured chaotic learning approach like self learning through the internet.
anyway, i pretty much get it now. i appreciate the planar magnetic technology more. not that i was doubting them, but... this is very nice.
>>51728588
Ok, more stuff then.
Impedance can be said to be the ratio of current needed to get a certain voltage. Less impedance means more current for the same voltage, and the reverse for high impedance. Voltage from an amplifier determines loudness from the headphone, but the amplifier also needs to create current.
Current demands are often a limiting factor with electronics, this applies to the output straight from your computer/phone/DAC/whatever. Audio amplifiers have a very, very high input impedance so that they take nearly all voltage, no matter what other things happened along the way, and then they take the current demand off the other electronics.
You will find out that loudspeakers with 1 ohm impedance are almost impossible to use. Besides the voltage division calculation I showed before, the current demand with such a speaker would be ridiculous.
So the /hpg/ meme advice is sansa clip+ with portable DAC/AMP. Which one DAC/Amp?
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