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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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No news.
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/TdZByAXS
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
How many of you have changed a HDD for an SSD? Was it night and day?
When you have a SATA 2 thinkpad, do you benefit from a decent SSD?
i read the guide but theyre a lot more expensive in the netherlands, what do?
>>51684296
got myself mSata ssd so I don't have to swap hdd, what buggers me is fact that people are still looking at sequential speeds in ssd but for os you need fast(er) seek time and a lot of IOPS for small files and I bet you would see difference even on sata1
my advice: you got money -> go for it
>>51684296
I bought one already with an SSD. Compared to my previous computer, things are lightning-fast.
>>51684296
Massive improvement in my T61.
>>51684386
1. deal with it
2. order from usa and pay import taxes
3. steal
that's what we get for being from europe
>>51684398
Yeah I was just reading abousepcst that, I'll definitely do it and check out for those specs.
>>51684421
unfortunately, this
I paid ~$550 for an X220
>>51684386
Search for eBay.
I shared in the last thread, there was a massive sellout of x220t from Germany (they shipped to the rest of Europe if asked).
More than 20 laptop, they were sold for 80 to 180€.
Got one for 120€.
>>51684386
>>51684421
My T410 cost me $230, still needs a new keyboard, battery and SSD to make it shine.
Well worth it because even though it is more expensive than buying in America, you are still miles ahead of any other laptop.
>>51684386
politely request a modest kekshed allowance increase :^)
>>51684467
The last one is at 110€ now and ends in 20 minutes, expect it to end at 180 or 190, it's the last one after all.
>>51684296
My T410s came with a dogshit 4200RPM hard drive and the thing was slow as all hell. Threw an mSATA SSD in an adapter, and even with Windows 7 dragging it down, it is the fastest-booting computer I own. Programs and files open lightning-quick. I would say to upgrade to an SSD before even thinking about RAM and processor.
>>51684609
You are right. I was using a dekstop with an 850 evo plus 4gb of RAM and it was amazing; now with 12gb of RAM I feel around the same since I don't keep much things open at the same time.
>>51684467
Don't these have German keyboard layouts though? Or do you get a separate keyboard along with it?
>>51684670
Yeah... my W520 has 16 gigs of RAM but a 7200 RPM hard drive. It feels sibstantially slower than the T410s despite the fact that the latter has a major RAM disadvantage (4 GB vs 16 GB) and processor disadvantage (i5-520M vs i7-2720MQ). Literally the only advantage to having a hard drive is the fact that it doesn't wear out as fast from torrenting or frequently moving large files. Also easier to destroy data when/if you eventually sell the computer.
>tfw my t420 is better spec'd processor wise than most laptops today and will last longer
Memepad is best meme, now I just need to figure out how to sell my newer shittier laptop without drama on Craigslist.
When is the Thinpad Yoga 260 coming out?
>>51684924
>Craigslist
Guaranteed there will be a guy named Suraj who offers you 50% of your asking price and keeps bugging you about it.
Actually one guy in a past /tpg/ was trying to sell a W530 and kept having some starving artist begging him to take half the asking price and a few paintings he had made. Our response was divided between pity and mockery. But everyone universally agreed that it was more important to get 'muh money'.
>>51684386
Buy 2nd hand or refurbished.
>>51685418
It's a G50-80 with 768p cancer. Paid $400 for it back when I didn't care about muh specs (though it still has a i5-5200u), should be able to get $350 at least because a "similar" config on the lelnovo website is like $700. Hopefully I can sell it before I move to bumfuck Kansas/Nebraska.
Laptop has as much flex as a piece of paper and shit cooling.
>>51684296
My x200 didn't come with a drive, first thing I did was drop an SSD into it. No idea how it feels with a lol 5400 but with a proper SSD it feels great. I don't even notice the core 2 duo at all.
A full boot up now takes me ~22 seconds, with 15 seconds spent doing whatever the fuck in the bios, even after turning off PXE boot and AMT, etc. After that I get to the login prompt in 7 seconds, hardly even enough time for a proper OS splash screen and loading icon before I'm at the login prompt.
For sequential I'm only getting 270/100, which I'm pretty sure is bottlenecked by the chipset. The 4k read and IOPS speeds are still great and make a big difference to perceived "snappiness".
I think I'd rather use a Core2Duo with Sata3 SSD than an i7 booting from rust.
what ssd fits in t420, m2 or msata, I forgot
>>51685878
What SSD do you have? I was thinking a Sandisk SSD plus will do good for me and my friend's SATA2 computers.
>>51686172
Msata.
>>51686512
Misaka?
>>51686574
lol
>>51686574
>All that shit plugged into such a small computer
I have an old laptop with too much RAM. Lets say I get a new T520 with 4GB RAM, would the ones I have in this old laptop be alright to use in my new laptop or are they crap?
>>51686574
lewd
what is this, an SSD for ants?
liking the sounds of the X220, but the RAM and SSD are turnoffs. How easy/expensive would it be to fix this?
>>51686479
I went with this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-KingDian-2-5-60GB-SSD-SATA-III-SATA3-Solid-State-Drives-For-Laptops-/231565315516
Seems to be working fine for $30. I liked the "truthiness" of the listing w/ benchmark table included.
"60 Gigs should be enough for anyone" - enough room to install a few '95-'05 era games, GIMP, Libreoffice, and a browser is all I need from this computer as I have a MBP w/500GB disk and a 1TB external for all my media files. For those same reasons I'm not too worried about data loss, nothing irreplaceable on here other than some dank memes.
If you're looking at it as more of an "investment" everyone seems to like the Samsung Evo's
>>51686961
Two of those satisfy my needs, I hope they are reliable enough since $60 can certainly accomodate various things.
>>51687146
I meant 60GB.
>>51686764
You will be able to put the old ram in the new laptop, yes.
>>51686961
Its like you beg for your data to get lost. You can easily spend 15$ more and get some more reliable brand.
>>51687264
Like I said, no valuable data on this machine other than a few TIS-100 programs I'd probably write better the second time around.
I am open to suggestions though, got any links for $45, reliable SSDs?
>>51687264
Getting data lost doesn't sound pretty.
What about Sillicon Power? I just have a USB flash drive from them and it's good.
>>51687335
Even sandisk and Kingston shit comes with half decent warranties. Don't buy chink shit from eBay you're asking to get burned.
>>51686512
thank you
Senpais, I need your help.
I'm a student, and as such, need a laptop. My current laptop is crapping out, and I need a new one. I need it to be somewhat transportable (13-15") and also be rugged, since I don't want such a fragile piece of shit again.
I've been looking at the T420 and the T410 refurbished, and I can't really decide beween the two. Help me decides senpais?
>>51687784
T410 is:
-Less powerful graphics
-16:10 aspect ratio
-SATA2
-10% slower CPU
-Cheaper
That's about it man, maybe less CPU efficiency thus slightly less battery life. I got a T410 and I baby it because it allows me to actually work even with an old 9-cell that lasts 2.5 hours.
If you like Hollywood aspect ratio for movies or multitasking in the same screen then go for the T420's 16:9.
>>51687784
420, better get the best specs you can afford if it has to last you for a while. It has no real disadvantages compared to the 410.
>>51688050
Don't forget the T420 also has msata support for an extra SSD.
>>51688050
>>51688065
>>51688080
alright, 420 it is then. thank you for your help desus
T430 or T430s?
>>51688874
T430 if there's not any good reason for you to pick a T4X0s model.
Considering upgrading from my T61 and going smaller. How's the IPS screen on the x230 (same panel as the x220)?
I figure I'll give the chiclets a shot, but if the keyboard don't jive, I'll do the x220 keyboard/palmrest swap. I can live with the key function issues.
Any other features besides the thinklight and lid latch I'll be losing? I know I'll gain some other stuff.
Anyone have experience with the Thinkpad x220 Tablet? Is the touch screen and swivel helpful or does it just get in the way? I do know that it is very slightly heavier/wider, but by a barely noticeable amount.
The buying guide in the OP puts them worth $100 over the standard model.
>>51689071
IPS on the X230 should be good, older X220 IPS panels had white spot and image persistence problems.
>>51689373
bit of a gimmick, you also lose the option of a 9 cell battery
>>51689673
ahh ok didn't know about the lack of 9 cell, thanks.
>seller lists 1 day shipping
>Order after cutoff for the day
>understandable
>one extra day I can deal
>expect to get chinkpad yesterday
>estimated delivery date monday
WHAT THE FUCK
This is probably a stupid question but I hate the fucking latches on most Thinkpads
I saw that T430S's don't have the latches, but it looks like T420S's do... can someone give a breakdown of which models have the latches? Thanks
What OS should I install on my 600x? Only 128mb of ram
>>51691114
arch
>>51690548
Ups/usps/fedex is overloaded w/ packages because of the holiday season. Also hope your seller pack your tp nice and tight, package handlers will rape the shit out of boxes this time of year.
>>51691238
fug now im scared yo...but still marking a package for 1 day shipping and getting it in like 7 is utter bullshit, especially with no notice or warning that it could take longer
Fuck I can't figure this out
I want a 14inch IPS good quality screen and a decent i7 chipset, all on a slim model
There's a bunch of like T450 and T440 around ~1k, a couple used or refurb for a little less. Then there are E series that sport the same specs for slightly less. What are the E series skimping on that makes them cheaper? Are their screen secret shit or something?
well i have officially become a loser nerd with a business laptop
now i have to sell my xps 13. i'll tell you what, that xps 13 is the most beautiful, well built, long battery life having useless computer i have ever owned. everything was great until i tried to actually get my work done. great conversation starter, though
>>51691660
I feel bad that the t520 I bought years ago for almost the same price, adjusted for inflation, isn't significantly worse overall. You better be putting in a terabyte drive. Anything under 500 fills up way too fast even if you say you don't need it. The thinkpad becomes your new main pc.
>>51691608
any tips here?
Does anyone else find the T61/T400 keyboards to be absolutely abysmal to type on? I never actually experienced this generation of Thinkpad (my first was a T40 and I jumped to a T410 from that) until just yesterday when my office got ready to recycle a few. I picked up a bunch with the intention us selling some and using the most powerful/best condition one as a Linux fuckaround machine. The T61 keyboard especially felt mushy and imprecise. The T400 was better in terms of typing feel but had a LOT of flex by Thinkpad standards.
To me, it seems like the T40 and the T410/420 were both excellent keyboards, but there was an interlude period where nothing but dogshit was being used. Why was the T61 being touted as the gold standard here for so many years? The only advantage I can see is the solid backplate, which substantially reduces flex. The switches themselves are awful.
Would anyone recommend the x230 tablet for writing notes in math classes?
Best thinkpad for $250? One that can run CSGO?
>>51692950
I'd recommend paper for notes in math class.
Stuck between a HP ProBook 6460 and a Dell Latitude E6410. The Dell comes with a $50~ range docking station and the HP comes with an SSD. Machines are damn near identical hardware wise apart from the above and same price. What do /g/?
>>51693782
>ProBook
Id get the latitude.
>>51693867
Any particular reason?
>>51692864
>Does anyone else find the T61/T400 keyboards to be absolutely abysmal to type on?
No. What the fuck was wrong with them? I have a T61 with the ALPS keyboard and it feels ten times better than the gaymur mech shit at Microcenter.
I've been thinking of buying a TPY460. I know there are strong opinions about Lenovo and their tampering with the formula that defines and makes ThinkPad great, but the 460 seems like a good choice. Thoughts?
I have a x220t with some deep scratches on the screen from the previous owner.
Do I have to replace the screen in full, or can I just get a new cover/digitizer for it? "Searching x220 tablet digitizer" on ebay just turns up full screen+digitizer units for $55.
>>51694555
sorry anon, it's a single part.
Do the i3 x220 's actually get noticeably more battery life? I don't mind trading some performance for battery, just don't want to throw it away for nothing
>>51694997
In the end the theoretical maximum power consumption of them is the same anyway. Otherwise it'd be more or less the as the i5. The i7 just seems to draw exception though for some reason where it doesn't like the 65w brick
Anyone got any pics of a t430 screen?
New to ThinkPads... I see a lot of you buying x220... whats the appeal?
Also, does anyone own a T540p? Is it sturdy? I've looked at some YouTube review videos of the T540p and in consensus it appears to be an okay laptop since apparently they changed a lot for that line of ThinkPad.
Also, how do you know what parts are swap-able with other models?
Does /tpg/ approve of giving your Thinkpad a girl's name?
Does t440 or x240 have a decent screen? Every single thinkpad past t60/t61 I ever owned had blutint chink screen which drove me nuts.
I'm going to buy a thinkpad and cum on it. Is it worth it? Will post pics
>>51695228
A usable keyboard layout, still decent battery life, real trackpoint buttons, non drop hinges, so on so forth
>>51695312
They do have IPS panels available and those are half decent yes
>>51695331
Been done before. But if you want to do it again, sure
Is there any way to know if an x220 has an ips panel before actually buying it? If a seller doesn't list whether the panel is tn or ips, is it safe to assume that it's tn?
>>51695394
Avaible? Meaning there are still t440 and x240 with TN panels that I will have to look out for while buying?
I feel like it's 2001..
I just got an 11e for $200. I already like it. It came with a 120GB SSD that I'm going to upgrade. Plan to use it for writing and programming.
>>51695458
here's your reply
>>51684296
I've put ssds in sata 1 notebooks and the difference is huge
firefox loading almost instantly over it taking 3-4 seconds is amazing
plus being able to just toss my laptop while it's on is surprisingly nice
>>51695859
Yeah a lot of it for me is the noise factor as well. I don't mind HDD noises in a desktop but they seem out of place in a laptop. I hate that disapproving "mrrrph" you get when you move the laptop too quickly, makes it feel needlessly fragile.
The fan in my is super quiet so I don't mind it, but fanless + SSD is a god-tier combination.
I cant decide between a T420 and a T520. This will be my first Thinkpad. What are the main differences?
>>51695244
>not giving your trusted equipment girl's names as a show of endearment
faggot
>>51696352
bigger vs smaller
slightly worse battery life vs slightly better (they use the same battery)
1366x768 or 1600x900 or 1080p vs only 1366x768 or 1600x900
option to natively support quadcores vs no option (natively)
>>51696352
T520 is xbox hueg, but has better cooling and better screen options.
T420 isn't so hueg, costs less, and has BIOS mods in development to allow usage of faster RAM and Ivy Bridge processors.
Performance-wise, they're more or less identical except the T520 was designed to use a quadcore CPU while the cooling in the T420 might not be sufficient if you put one in. The T420 will beat it in the long run, unless those mods make their way to the T520 at some point.
just got t450s and forgot to select the backlit keyboard, don't know if i really need it, never noticed if backlit was helpful on my macbook
I can change the keyboard if something right?
>>51697480
Yes, but you should be able to touch type anyway
>>51697726
did your order status ever show released go manufacturing? if so how long was it
mine for some reason says estimated ship date dec 14, way too long
Why does my x220t make sizzling sounds
>>51694008
Probook looks like quite cheap plastic, the mix between a business laptop and a consumer one. Meanwhile the latitude is strictly a business laptop.
>>51697949
The hissing is the voltage regulators and such because lenovo is funny like that. Perfectly normal. Try changing the load by say running something heavy and you'll notice a change
I love my thinkpad! He is my friend.
Went from an X220 to an HP Elitebook 8470p, and god damn the HP is so much nicer.
I still maintain that the X220 has one of the best laptop keyboards around. The 8470p's keyboard feels like a Macbook Pro, which isn't to say it's bad
Anyone mind giving a short list of ThickBads that has a wacom digitizer?
>>51698337
It's actually the WiFi module.
The buzzing voltage regulators was a c2d thing.
The battery on my X200 went completely dead last night. Does anyone have any recommendations for chink batteries that work well?
>>51699920
The new yoga 14s do.
Thoughts on the Dell Latitude E6430 vs a Thinkpad T430? I'm looking for 14" range, business class, and USB 3.0 support. They seem about equal in specs, any distinctive benefits to one or the other?
I'm getting a ultrabay caddy for my T420. The page says it has a 1TB limit as it's just a SATA pass through, i'm guessing that's not true.
I'm planning to put a 2TB drive in, will it work? Anyone got a similar setup?
What features does the X230 have over the X220? I know the 220 has a better keyboard, and the 230 has a 1 generation better CPU, but what else?
>>51699920
the t-variants of the x series, e.g. x220t
the w701ds
>>51701231
The GPU is much better.
>>51701313
backlight on the keyboard... anything else?
>>51701341
Some people say the build quality is a bit more flimsy, but I never used a *30.
>>51684241
How much would you /g/oys pay for a perfect condition x230t (no wear whatsoever). i7 3520 CPU, 512 SSD and 16 GB ram, multi touch and backlit keyboard?
For some reason, my 272MQ is having issues with 720p flash video, but only in Firefox. Once you fire up IE, it's fine. The computer has absolutely no issues decoding 1080p Hi-10 video, as one would expect from a quad-core i7.
Either I've got some configuration really, really wrong or Firefox is really, really shit. Does anyone know how to address this? I would prefer to keep Adblock in one form or another.
>>51701341
usb 3.0
>>51701435
This is pretty fucking key. Although you could always just get the T420s if you were willing to take on a larger screen.
>>51701435
x220 i7's have usb 3
>>51701512
>T420s
Or expresscard extension
So /tpg/ I picked up an X200 for €95 and I'm now installing Mint on it. How'd I do?
I won an auction for a X220t for $168 with no battery or AC adapter...
Did I do OK or get ripped off? The condition is pretty good.
>Canadian dollar worthless
>no sellers from canada
>shipping + import floats around $70 US give or take for location
>t420-430 have abysmal screens
>no viable IPS upgrade available as of now
>carbon x1 panel is TN and dubious if it'll work or be cheap
>X220 screen too small
>looking at $500-600 Cdn for a T420 + Third Party 8GB RAM and 250 GB SSD, even more for battery and screen
Tell me again why I should buy a Thinkpad?
>>51701960
160GB SSD which I didn't exactly need as I had a 250GB one laying around.. No HDD cover also, but those can be picked up for about $3 bucks.
>>51701963
if you want to get a different model of laptop that's fine
>>51701963
>$500-600 CAD
>For a T420
You're not looking hard enough desu senpai, I paid about ~$450 CAD for a W520 with 16 gigs of RAM. A well-equipped T420 should be at least $100 less than that.
What the hell is this think on top of the x220t screen?
>>51702044
A handle to help when opening the screen.
>>51701995
>>51701960
Sorry I'm retarded. Here are the specs:
Core i5-2520M 2.50GHz/4GB/160SSD
For $167 shipped is that good?
>>51702061
the screen looks flimsy as hell. Does the x220t have any durability issues?
>>51702127
The only one I know of is that the rubber tabs on either side of the keyboard had a tendency to break the plastic and fall out. I got my x220t for cheap because I didn't mind one with one of the tabs missing.
All the tabs do though is keep the screen from wiggling when closed.
>>51702093
>>51701995
>>51701960
please
>>51702290
you fucked up nigger
>>51702044
>>51702061
it's also for antenna in tablet mode, otherwise you lose signal, btw that pic is not x220t
>>51701409
bout three fiddy
>>51684296
I'm on xubuntu, which is p lightweight to begin with, so it's not night and day, but it does boot in less time than it takes for me to type in my password.
>>51698054
Thanks mate.
Sup /tpg/
I'm looking for a used thinkpad for programming and dicking around in Linux
>3:2 aspect ration
> less than 400 dollars
>old style think pad keyboard(no chiclets)
Anything like this out there? Also would like to be able to put in an ips screen.
>>51703185
>3:2
>IPS
>>51703305
Also, the X1 Yoga will be the first Thinkpad with an optional OLED display.
>>51703241
That picture.
How much longer before I can buy a used retro Thinkpad for cheap?
>>51703324
>Skylake
>LPDDR3
JUST
>>51703450
Between 4-7 years.
>>51702617
how bad?
I am thinking about buying a X201. I currently have a X61, and previously had a T61. I liked the touchpad of the T61 (don't judge), I like the size of the X61, the screen resolution is too small though. The X201 seems to have a resolution of 1280x800, which is more than the 1024x768 of my current X61.
The X220 does not have physical buttons for the touchpad, so that is no choice.
The X201s does have an even better screen resolution, but I am unable to find one on sale.
My question is: how loud is it going to get? The current X61 has a small fan in the chassis that is driving me nuts. I tried disconnecting it, but without it I just get fan failure and no boot. Replacement parts would probably cost more than the whole device.
I am not concerned about performance or price, but I would like a good old Thinkpad for some tinkering. Thoughts?
Which are more desirable on the market? x220 or x220t?
>>51703900
x220t has a higher price point due to the extra hardware features
Okay, I've been looking mostly at the T430 or X230 for mostly movies and programming.
I like the X230's better screen but the resolution is kinda small.
I like the T430's size but the screen is shitty quality.
What do i do?
>>51703900
whats decent price for a second hand x220t with a i5 and default harddrive (250gb or something?) in it?
>>51704018
>>51684241
>Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
>http://ktgee.net/tpg
>>51704018
meant for >>51703922
>>51704045
that shit is horribly outdated for today's market.
>>51704074
>updated a month ago
>>51704086
well then that fucker should look at some recent ebay listings, bless his heart
thinkpad has been in transit, in the exact same facility for two days...literally fuck this
>>51703771
very badly.
x220t for $200
x230 for $230
Which would you choose?
>>51704255
do you require 9cell? point for x230
do you require 7row layout? point for x220t
do you wanna play with tablet? point for x220t (obviously)
do you wanna better integrated graphics (for whatever reason)? point for x230
do you wanna use chink batteries? point for x220t
do you need usb 3.0? half point for X230, X220t can use expresscard adapter but speeds are not gonna be as good as native port
also depends on specs and condition
>>51693263
Way to answer my question, thanks
>>51704086
>>51704045
that article says an x230 costs 300-350 but you can easily get one on ebay for 230 bucks or so
Which thinkpad has the best gpu while still using the old style keyboard and trackpoint buttons? I want to use mine for everything but would like a good gpu also for light gaming. Thanks!
>>51704478
I've found that that's usually the cost for one with minor damage like a broken/missing rubber nub. 'like new' ones tend to run higher.
>>51704486
I think you can do a keyboard swap on a T430 to replace it with the seven-row T420 keyboard, though some of the special buttons might not work quite right, if I remember?
I've got a T420 as my daily driver and it can handle reasonable gaming loads, but the 4000 in the 30 series is supposed to be a much better integrated card than the 3000 in the 20 series. Depends what kind of gaming you're interested in doing really.
>>51704562
I recall hearing about the keyboard swap. I would play minecraft with texture packs and xcom enemy within. Maybe fallout 3 if it's possible
Just bought a 3 month old X1C 3rd gen with i7, 8gb ram,WQHD screen and 33months of warranty for 880yuropoorlas. Did I do good senpais?
>>51704598
Googling XCOM, which is probably the most performance-intensive out of the bunch, I see people talking about running it on HD 3000 cards without much trouble, though you're probably going to have to set the graphics down low.
For the other games, I've played a Minecraft clone (minetest) and a bunch of Bethesda engine games (not FO3 specifically, but Oblivion and Skyrim) and they all ran well, though obviously we're not talking about a gaming powerhouse here.
>>51688261
I run a T420 myself. Love it, though it does have coil whine and occasionally brightness adjustment shits the bed (though that's fixed by just closing the lid and opening it again).
Still, I can't go back. If you'd told me two years ago that I'd be spoiled by a nub and realized how shite touchpads are, I'd have said you're dumb.
>>51704441
thanks anon
Okay, I've been looking mostly at the T430 or X230 for mostly movies and programming.
I like the X230's better screen but the resolution is kinda small.
I like the T430's size but the screen is shitty quality.
What do i do?
>>51704694
>>51704694
I'm sold. Ty!
>tfw you reach a point when you can say say you are almost perfectly content with your setup, both software and hardware-wise
All I need now is a good 9-cell, for maximum comfiness.
(Monitor thingie in next to the tray is called Perfgraph 3.0)
>>51704731
Pick one. For what it's worth, the T420's screen is pretty bad but it doesn't bother me much except when I'm going from it to one of my other computers. I just can't use it for color-sensitive work, but for just watching a movie, it's fine by me.
>>51704478
i7 x230's are still 300+
My thinkpad has been pretty fucked lately, blackscreens in BIOS even. I feel like it's a physical problem but I can't figure out where to start looking.
Just got a x220t nine cell China battery off eBay for 24$ did I blow it /g/
>>51704995
your battery's gonna be the one blowing it
>>51704995
I'm just about to pull the trigger on this:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/9cells-7800mAh-Battery-For-Lenovo-ThinkPad-L410-L412-L420-L421-L510-L512-L520-SL410-SL410k-SL510/1721503382.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.56.bBmwZL&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_1_79_78_77_80,searchweb201644_0,searchweb201560_2
Hold me, anon. I hope we won't die in a housefire.
Lenovo Thinkpad x230.
230€
i5 + 8GB RAM + 180GB SSD + no charger.
What's the lightest thinkpad? I'm looking for a small and cheap laptop for school, and was about to buy a Chromebook, but if you got something better to offer...
Ok please don't kill me, but is this legit?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/94Wh-100-Genuine-Battery-Lenovo-45N1005-45N1001-45N1004-45N1000-0A36302-0A36303-/131561772350?hash=item1ea1b1553e:g:nlwAAOSwPcVVryDO
I know it's probably fake chink shit... Just asking. There are ones which are sold as unbranded and there are these, listed as 100% genuine.
>>51705223
something like an x220s.
>>51705273
barring that the x-series are the smaller thinkpads but a good thinkpad is going to be heavier than just about any chromebook because thinkpads are actually meant to be good
>>51705295
What about lenovo's chromebook?
More chromebook-like, or thinkpad-like?
>>51705416
lenovo's chromebook is a chromebook
>>51703782
The hard drive is usually noisier than the fan, so replace that with a SSD. Under Linux you can use Thinkfan to stop the CPU fan until it reaches a temperature threshold. I use 55C so it's silent unless I start playing a video or compiling something.
>>51704731
X230 screen is annoyingly small to run an IDE on, but you can get a dock for when you're at your desk.
>>51703782
Nobody?
>>51705540
>>51705559
>>51705540
>>51705559
Damn. Left the tab open for a minute before posting, and there you are.
I am going to retire my X61, and I am going to take the SSD over to the new one. So yeah, no noise from the harddrive.
Do you have an experience undervolting/underclocking an X201? I think that should help me keep the temperature down while the fan is off.
fucking around trying to recreate the old style wallpapers
>>51703358
So on the **30 thinkpads onwards, how does one control volume, and go back and forward in file browsers and internet browsers?
Do people use AHK or something?
>>51705623
Unfortunately with the fan completely off, you can hear coil whine and crackling from the voltage regulator and some hissing from the speakers (goes away if you hit mute).
>>51705770
Backspace and shift+backspace for navigating in the browser.
The **30's still have hardware volume buttons, on everything newer I think it's available with a Fn key combination.
>>51705936
Thanks for the warning. Is that something the whole series suffers from, or would it not be present on a X201i or X201s (if I find one)?
>>51705996
The 200 and 201 both suffer from coil whine, which is especially bad when using the Ultrabase. the X230 is a lot better, I don't have experience with all the variants though.
>>51706042
As far as I can see the X201 is the only one with the touchpad I want.
This is purely for mobile usage, so no docking station.
I am going to think about this, and decide tomorrow. Thank you for your input.
>>51706042
on X220(t) coil whine or other unexpected noises are not present or at least noticable, but I got ultrabase and the noise from mSata ssd coil in speaker output is unbearable even if music is playing
can somebody confirm it's just my base faulty?
>>51705936
shift+backspace doesn't work for file browsers
I still love having dedicated buttons on my X220
I meant pause, skip forward, backward, and stop
Volume is still there, but not these
The one improvement i'd say is the fullsize windows key, but aside from that I really don't like the new keyboard design. You can't feel for keys, like the old ones that were separated for example in sets of 4 for the F keys, and differently sized escape and delete keys around the other keys. Now all the keys above the keyboard are the same, which is kind of annoying, and all these function keys are gone. It's literally less functional
Does the T61p suffer the same timebomb issue as the normal T61 with nvidia graphics?
Is the screen on the t430 as terrible as everyone says? Is there a way to upgrade it?
>>51707479
The TN panels on t420/430 aren't as bad as you'd be led to believe. Have you ever used a three or four year old consumer laptop, like a basic Asus or Acer or Toshiba or whatever? It looks like that but with an antiglare matte finish.
They sure do look like shit in photographs though. Nowhere near this blue or washed out in person. An IPS would be nice but it really isn't a deal breaker.
>>51707602
I had an x201 and it wasn't terrible. Ty. Its still my top choice then.
Hey /g/, just got an x220 off ebay, with 2.6 i5, IPS panel, 8gb ram, 320hdd. got a 250gb 850evo ssd and brand new 9 cell. it also came with a 9 cell, but they seem slightly different. Which is better, the 29++ or the 44++?
Paid 350 for everything, did i do ok?
>>51707808
44++ is better, that's lenovo's weird power capacity rating, bigger is better
What'd you pay for the SSD? Sounds like a good deal to me anon, that's a dank budget rig
where do I go for motherbaords? is it eby or bust?
Is Nvidia NVS 4200M on the T420 enough to run Rocket League?
>>51703358
>no 7 row keyboard
Dropped.
What the fuck was the point of all those surveys if they were just going to fucking kuck us with the same shit no one ever wanted?
>>51707602
Is there anywhere I could go to see it in person... I feel like I'd probably be ok with one but if I end up buying it and I think it's the worst thing ever like some of the angry posters on random thinkpad forums then that would be a bummer. Still bouncing between a T430 or X230, on one hand really nice screen on the other hand more space to work.
>>51707247
Yes. Although the usual post August 2008 rule applies where those ones should survive
>>51707869
Not really. Just the 44++ is newer and has the authentication chip for the **30 line. The nameplate capacity is the same
>>51705629
looks pretty good m8
whats the bestro distro and version for my new T420
>>51708907
I have zero recollection of which screen is on my t520 but it is pretty nice. FRU 42T0743 for anyone who gives a fuck. Nothing special, but not bad. Really wide viewing angle if it isn't IPS. The only t4xx I ever used had a crap screen, at least compared to this one. If you're even considering the t4xx, get the 5xx because it isn't much larger but is so much better. That opens up all kinds of screen options if you just aren't sure.
>>51707808
>>51707869
they are the same, 29++ (9cell), 29+ (6cell) and 29 (3cell) were models for X220, they were replaced by batteries from X230 (44++, 44+, 44) but as we all know they use same chasis thus same batteries, if you check wattage numbers are same, thou you cam say 44 series are better because they are newer thus have less mileage
also chances are pretty much close to zero but check your 29++ battery here and you may recieve free replacement, even if it seems like that 44++ you got is already from here
https://lenovobattery2014.orderz.com/
>no buy chink! may explode! no warranty!
>buy original licenced
>insert mr.goldstein.png
>>51708966
Red Star OS.
>>51684241
Which one is better for x230t - Windows 7 or Windows 8.1?
>>51709157
8.1. Better multi-touch support
>>51708916
The 07/11 next to the serial number is the manufacture date in the format year/month, right? It seems to line up, looking at my T60 its label is faded but the first digit is 06, my X220 is 12/02 and my T510 is 11/02.
>>51709157
Depends on what you want out of it. I'm running both on my X220t just for the sake of it. The power manager just doesn't want to play nice with 8 so I have it in 7 to set battery charge thresholds which are cleared if I remove the battery, but preserved if I reboot into 8
7 will like the pen better but 8 will like the finger better
>>51709208
Yes. You're looking for anything higher than 08/08
>>51707869
$70 for the ssd from amazon
has been great so far. Have a real computer for serious stuff but just wanted something to shitpost with and take to the library
>>51710016
That's pretty much what I ordered for my 520 only I got a terabyte drive and an ultrabay slot for it as well. Now I have three hard drives for the old pornograph.
>>51709423
>find one 08/08 model
>it's more expensive than the T420s I got last week
fug this gay earth
can the T61p even be frankenpadded with a 4:3 T60 anyway?
>>51710084
I've a 15.1" T61p that's 03/08 but it's a year in without going kaput yet
As it stands if it dies it's totally possible to frankenpad it with a mobo without the GPU since the screen/resolution is too good to go to waste
http://t61.wikispaces.com/home#motherboards
>>51710172
Man, this is confusing. I have a 15" 4:3 T60, but it looks like the only 15" T61 boards are for widescreen models. Would one of those fit in my T60? Or can you only frankenpad if you have a 14" or widescreen model? Is there anywhere I can read more about doing this?
What would be the best t530 model to buy? Is optimus worth it?
paid $200 muric bucks for an x220, with ips, i5 (2520m), 8GB, 120GB and 300GB drives. like new condition. How i do /tpg/?
theres an x240 off craigslist for under $400 im trying to figure out if it has an ips screen on it and im looking through the models but cant figure it out. anyone know if this model: 20ams3dk00 has an ips panel. i think i might try to find another one with a better resolution on it tho bc i cba looking at a 1366x768 res
>>51710628
Over paid
>>51710691
yeah i think so too...
>>51710691
>>>
> Anonymous 12/05/15(Sat)22:50:44 No.51710717 ▶
>>>51710691
i over paid for the IPS i guess... but it's glorious and not the shitty bad viewing angles of the TN
>>51710628
>>51710691
>>51710717
personaly I think it's good price, as he said it has ips, and even though it has only basic i5 it has double basic ram and two drives, where I assume that 120GB is msata ssd for os, so in the future he can swap only data drive and not have to fuck with os
>>51710746
as long as you're happy with it that's all that matters
It's not like $200 is even all that much money when you're talking about computers and electronics anyways. It should be a good laptop for you.
>>51684241
look at this overpriced honeypot shit on ebay
www.ebay.com/itm/262073234225
>>51710857
>www.ebay.com/itm/262073234225
The T400 has a way better display than the T420... sure it's slower, but your eyes will thank you.
>>51710837
Well I hate the feeling of over paid for a "used" item. I always strive to get the very best deals... I never buy new. $200 may not be a lot of money these days but for deprecated hardware it kind of is :)
>>51708890
The retro thinkpad, if it happens, will be a one-off build of its own. They're not factoring in that survey data for the current T series lineup.
Recently bought a x220. Is it normal that it runs louder than my x60t? Also, tfw going from god-tier sharp sxga+ panel to 1366x768 that has ghosting issues.
>>51711330
how much did you paid?
>>51711340
250 canadabucks
>>51711355
what's the specs? i paid $200 fat-murican bucks for mine... and i feel i overpaid.
>>51686764
Just make sure it's 1x4G, not 2x2G.
>>51709198
Even if I have the normal multi touch and not the Windows® 8 optimized© multi touch screen? How's battery life? I have read in a few threads that with windows 8 the x230t has worse battery life.
Thoughts?
Anyone comfortable coding on a x230? Seems small, might go for a t430 instead but the screen sucks.
>>51711655
what if we don't live in bongland. are timezones really that crazy
>>51711706
>GMT
And yes.
>>51711718
what the fuck. I really like it though
>>51711733
i-if you tell me your current city i c-can add a point there in trackpoint red j-just for you
so it's your own special wallpaper
>>51710382
You need a T61 board from the 4:3 14.1" model. It's the only one that will fit your 4:3 15" T60. The mobo is the exact same size. It has a little extender board that plugs into the right side for the ultrabay. You also have to make one very small modification to the T60 rollcage because one of the screws is in a different place.
>>51711770
I wold love that. I'm in boulder, CO. Mountain time.
>>51711785
>>51704731
>Posts question, gets no replies
>Reposts with sexy bacon gif, gets replies
That's science!
Aspect ratio is important for movies and such, try for 16:9
>>51711837
you're the best
>>51704731
>X230
The resolution is good for the screen size, and IMO the tablet version has a nicer screen, but it way bulkier and heavier. The docks are pretty cheap ( I bought mine for 30 dollars and got a DVD burner and a SATA adapter for it ) and include ethernet, DP++ and 4 USB 2.0 ports.
>Movies
Small size makes it great for movies in bed. The tablet version has speakers on the screen, the regular version has them under the chassis. The tablet is also convenient for strange viewing configurations. The tablet is better for consuming media on.
>Programming
Keyboards on all laptops suck for programming. The screen is also small as fuck for text. However when you dock it both of those problems disappear.
My current set up
>X230
>Dock
>1TB dock drive
>Gaymur Keyboard
>GTX 750TI
>Old 1080P Monitor
Fits literally all of my computing needs, is more powerful than my old desktop, and I can disconnect it and gtfo with a tiny laptop.
>>51711837
>china's giant "fuck you" finger for their pants-on-head retarded shaped timezone.
>>51711776
Okay, thanks. One last question, I've put the T500 cooler in my T60 to help contain the ATI housefire. If I get a T61 board will it still fit or will I also have to get a T61 cooler?
>>51711951
I never noticed that before
How much difference ips and regular display on the x220? Worth it to pay a bit more for one with ips?
>>51711958
It'll fit, you're good. Just make sure the heatsink makes good contact with the GPU die. If it doesn't, it might be beneficial to carefully bend it ever so slightly.
>>51712049
Thanks.
>got a UXGA screen coming for Christmas
>gonna frankenpad
>probably going to pick up at least a second 2GB stick of RAM if I don't go balls-out and try for 8GB
>might get an SSD too if money permits
comfy times ahead
